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Giant_Aspirin 08/21/18 5:14:53 PM #51:	get fucked Cheeto Man --- Playing: Dead Cells; Axiom Verge; Mario Odyssey *(~);} - I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up - {;(~)* <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:907300250] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote>get fucked Cheeto Man</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 08/21/18 5:16:16 PM #52:	Howl posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Nomadic View posted... CNN wanted to dox the jurors in this trial. https://thefederalist.com/2018/08/17/federal-judge-denies-cnn-request-dox-jurors-manafort-trial/ But cnn! Why is CNN trying to dox the jury members not important iyo? It's pretty fucking important tbh. https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/08/20/conservatives-cant-identify-journalism-confuse-it-with-doxxing/ We may never find out what jurors thought or heard during deliberations once the trial ends. Judge T.S. Ellis III has blocked the release of any information that might get them identified by the press. Requesting access to juror info is a common reporter gambit used, for example, after the Bill Cosby trial to get the sort of juror quotes you read in high-level, post-trial reports. The Associated Press, the New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN, NBC, Politico, and BuzzFeed all petitioned the court together to obtain the jurors names and addresses and other currently unavailable Manafort trial information, citing precedent that jury information should be revealed absent extraordinary circumstances such as realistic threats of violence or jury corruption. But, Judge Ellis said there had been threats to him. Ellis revealed he was under the protection of U.S. marshals, and said he feared for the jurors peace and safety, which led him to refuse the request. Seems pretty straightforward. But conservatives who did not know, or did not care to know that this was standard journalistic practice told readers that reporters wanted to know the jurors names, not to write stories, but so they could dox them to coerce a conviction of Manafort on behalf of the Democrats. You guys should really stop falling for fake news <cite>Axiom posted [p:907300339] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote> CNN wanted to dox the jurors in this trial. https://thefederalist.com/2018/08/17/federal-judge-denies-cnn-request-dox-jurors-manafort-trial/</quote> But cnn!</quote> Why is CNN trying to dox the jury members not important iyo? It's pretty fucking important tbh.</quote> https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/08/20/conservatives-cant-identify-journalism-confuse-it-with-doxxing/ We may never find out what jurors thought or heard during deliberations once the trial ends. Judge T.S. Ellis III has blocked the release of any information that might get them identified by the press. Requesting access to juror info is a common reporter gambit used, for example, after the Bill Cosby trial to get the sort of juror quotes you read in high-level, post-trial reports. The Associated Press, the New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN, NBC, Politico, and BuzzFeed all petitioned the court together to obtain the jurors names and addresses and other currently unavailable Manafort trial information, citing precedent that jury information should be revealed absent extraordinary circumstances such as realistic threats of violence or jury corruption. But, Judge Ellis said there had been threats to him. Ellis revealed he was under the protection of U.S. marshals, and said he feared for the jurors peace and safety, which led him to refuse the request. Seems pretty straightforward. But conservatives who did not know, or did not care to know that this was standard journalistic practice told readers that reporters wanted to know the jurors names, not to write stories, but so they could dox them to coerce a conviction of Manafort on behalf of the Democrats. You guys should really stop falling for fake news</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 08/21/18 5:19:23 PM #53:	The Great Muta 22 posted... Howl posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Nomadic View posted... CNN wanted to dox the jurors in this trial. https://thefederalist.com/2018/08/17/federal-judge-denies-cnn-request-dox-jurors-manafort-trial/ But cnn! Why is CNN trying to dox the jury members not important iyo? It's pretty fucking important tbh. It has nothing to do with the topic at hand and is a lazy deflection It's literally about the trial that's being discussed. How can you say it has nothing to do with it? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Howl posted [p:907300538] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote> CNN wanted to dox the jurors in this trial. https://thefederalist.com/2018/08/17/federal-judge-denies-cnn-request-dox-jurors-manafort-trial/ </quote> But cnn! </quote> Why is CNN trying to dox the jury members not important iyo? It's pretty fucking important tbh.</quote> It has nothing to do with the topic at hand and is a lazy deflection</quote> It's literally about the trial that's being discussed. How can you say it has nothing to do with it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-Unowninator- 08/21/18 5:20:30 PM #54:	If it means what I want it to... ...the man who is orange will wear orange. --- ''25 posts in and no one has addressed the orignal question. Also, I'm continuing that streak :P'' ~ Lord_Zenki Join the unknown: http://goo.gl/S75cmn <cite>-Unowninator- posted [p:907300608] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote>If it means what I want it to... ...the man who is orange will wear orange.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 08/21/18 5:32:22 PM #55:	shockthemonkey posted... SK8T3R215 posted... 0AbsoluteZero0 posted... Spam_n_eggs posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted... https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/politics/paul-manafort-trial-jury/index.html @The_Admiral Wheres that screenshot of him calling the Manafort raid a nothingburger? Lmfao Aren't Manafort's charges really unrelated to the campaign as a whole? Cohen saying he violated laws through Trump is much more damning to Trump than Manafort's charges which really deal with his personal dealings from what I read. Manaforts guilty verdict isnt directly tied to Trump but it gives Manafort incentive to flip on Trump in order to avoid jail. Thats been the entire purpose of this whole thing. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:907301333] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SK8T3R215 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Spam_n_eggs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/politics/paul-manafort-trial-jury/index.html</quote> @The_Admiral</quote> Wheres that screenshot of him calling the Manafort raid a nothingburger? Lmfao</quote> Aren't Manafort's charges really unrelated to the campaign as a whole? Cohen saying he violated laws through Trump is much more damning to Trump than Manafort's charges which really deal with his personal dealings from what I read.</quote> Manaforts guilty verdict isnt directly tied to Trump but it gives Manafort incentive to flip on Trump in order to avoid jail.</quote> Thats been the entire purpose of this whole thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/21/18 5:32:33 PM #56:	0AbsoluteZero0 posted... Spam_n_eggs posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted... https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/politics/paul-manafort-trial-jury/index.html @The_Admiral Wheres that screenshot of him calling the Manafort raid a nothingburger? Lmfao <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:907301345] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Spam_n_eggs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/politics/paul-manafort-trial-jury/index.html</quote> @The_Admiral</quote> Wheres that screenshot of him calling the Manafort raid a nothingburger? Lmfao</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/21/18 5:33:33 PM #57:	also lol at nomad failing miserably to derail the thread slurpers are dedicated <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:907301410] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote>also lol at nomad failing miserably to derail the thread slurpers are dedicated</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 08/21/18 5:34:20 PM #58:	frozenshock posted... Can't Trump just pardon him? He'd still get fucked in his State trials. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:907301454] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote>Can't Trump just pardon him?</quote> He'd still get fucked in his State trials.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 08/21/18 5:34:31 PM #59:	Nomadic View posted... shockthemonkey posted... SK8T3R215 posted... 0AbsoluteZero0 posted... Spam_n_eggs posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted... https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/politics/paul-manafort-trial-jury/index.html @The_Admiral Wheres that screenshot of him calling the Manafort raid a nothingburger? Lmfao Aren't Manafort's charges really unrelated to the campaign as a whole? Cohen saying he violated laws through Trump is much more damning to Trump than Manafort's charges which really deal with his personal dealings from what I read. Manaforts guilty verdict isnt directly tied to Trump but it gives Manafort incentive to flip on Trump in order to avoid jail. Thats been the entire purpose of this whole thing. Well he shouldn't have been an utter piece of shit who stole money from the country. Or you know, pimped out his wife and organized political hits in Ukraine, if you believe his own daughters --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:907301465] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SK8T3R215 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Spam_n_eggs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/politics/paul-manafort-trial-jury/index.html</quote> @The_Admiral</quote> Wheres that screenshot of him calling the Manafort raid a nothingburger? Lmfao</quote> Aren't Manafort's charges really unrelated to the campaign as a whole? Cohen saying he violated laws through Trump is much more damning to Trump than Manafort's charges which really deal with his personal dealings from what I read.</quote> Manaforts guilty verdict isnt directly tied to Trump but it gives Manafort incentive to flip on Trump in order to avoid jail.</quote> Thats been the entire purpose of this whole thing.</quote> Well he shouldn't have been an utter piece of shit who stole money from the country. Or you know, pimped out his wife and organized political hits in Ukraine, if you believe his own daughters</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 08/21/18 5:34:45 PM #60:	I really don't think Manafort will flip, because he may know enough that flipping may, in a tragic and completely unrelated fashion, end with polonium in his coffee. He's really in deep with the Russians, IIRC. That and his record of being a booster for various right-wing dictators were why his hiring as Trump's campaign manager was so eye-brow raising. I doubt there will be much, if any, fall-out for Trump in all this, but that's okay. Paul Manafort is human garbage and him rotting in prison, while possibly too good for him, is a very good thing. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:907301485] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote>I really don't think Manafort will flip, because he may know enough that flipping may, in a tragic and completely unrelated fashion, end with polonium in his coffee. He's really in deep with the Russians, IIRC. That and his record of being a booster for various right-wing dictators were why his hiring as Trump's campaign manager was so eye-brow raising. I doubt there will be much, if any, fall-out for Trump in all this, but that's okay. Paul Manafort is human garbage and him rotting in prison, while possibly too good for him, is a very good thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 08/21/18 5:34:57 PM #61:	Broseph_Stalin posted... 0AbsoluteZero0 posted... Spam_n_eggs posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted... https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/politics/paul-manafort-trial-jury/index.html @The_Admiral Wheres that screenshot of him calling the Manafort raid a nothingburger? Lmfao He's just gonna deny he said that or ignore it. --- IGN: Sun FC: 0061-0132-7564 <cite>tremain07 posted [p:907301492] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Spam_n_eggs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/politics/paul-manafort-trial-jury/index.html</quote> @The_Admiral</quote> Wheres that screenshot of him calling the Manafort raid a nothingburger? Lmfao</quote> </quote> He's just gonna deny he said that or ignore it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImNotAnIdiot 08/21/18 5:37:42 PM #62:	Do people really think Trump will go down over this? In the end, nothing will happen to him. --- https://imgur.com/Q9XJftg Blasted By Limitless Chad Dick <cite>ImNotAnIdiot posted [p:907301652] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote>Do people really think Trump will go down over this? In the end, nothing will happen to him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/21/18 5:39:23 PM #63:	tremain07 posted... He's just gonna deny he said that or ignore it. He addressed it once, claiming I photoshopped it. When we reminded him it was on the archive he fled the topic. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:907301767] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote>He's just gonna deny he said that or ignore it.</quote> He addressed it once, claiming I photoshopped it. When we reminded him it was on the archive he fled the topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 08/21/18 5:40:09 PM #64:	Broseph_Stalin posted... tremain07 posted... He's just gonna deny he said that or ignore it. He addressed it once, claiming I photoshopped it. When we reminded him it was on the archive he fled the topic. Yeah well I don't know if you heard but truth isn't truth so it turns out he never actually said it. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:907301817] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote>He's just gonna deny he said that or ignore it.</quote> He addressed it once, claiming I photoshopped it. When we reminded him it was on the archive he fled the topic.</quote> Yeah well I don't know if you heard but truth isn't truth so it turns out he never actually said it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 08/21/18 5:40:23 PM #65:	ImNotAnIdiot posted... Do people really think Trump will go down over this? In the end, nothing will happen to him. I dont think this is a political win for Trump by any means. But this isnt going to be the golden impeachment bullet that some people on the left have been foaming at the mouth for. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:907301835] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImNotAnIdiot posted...</cite> <quote>Do people really think Trump will go down over this? In the end, nothing will happen to him.</quote> I dont think this is a political win for Trump by any means. But this isnt going to be the golden impeachment bullet that some people on the left have been foaming at the mouth for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 08/21/18 5:41:27 PM #66:	Nomadic View posted... ImNotAnIdiot posted... Do people really think Trump will go down over this? In the end, nothing will happen to him. I dont think this is a political win for Trump by any means. But this isnt going to be the golden impeachment bullet that some people on the left have been foaming at the mouth for. No one is claiming that it will, or that it's over --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:907301917] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImNotAnIdiot posted...</cite> <quote>Do people really think Trump will go down over this? In the end, nothing will happen to him.</quote> I dont think this is a political win for Trump by any means. But this isnt going to be the golden impeachment bullet that some people on the left have been foaming at the mouth for.</quote> No one is claiming that it will, or that it's over</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 08/21/18 5:42:03 PM #67:	Manafort is screwed Cohan may have given them more lines into his dirty shit Omerosa may actually have something worth showing tonight, through I doubt it He has a rally tonight as well God I hope he melts on stage but you know it'll be like every other cult meeting of his. false promises braindead supporters and stupid chants that don't make a lick of sense. --- IGN: Sun FC: 0061-0132-7564 <cite>tremain07 posted [p:907301952] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote>Manafort is screwed Cohan may have given them more lines into his dirty shit Omerosa may actually have something worth showing tonight, through I doubt it He has a rally tonight as well God I hope he melts on stage but you know it'll be like every other cult meeting of his. false promises braindead supporters and stupid chants that don't make a lick of sense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 08/21/18 5:42:41 PM #68:	Broseph_Stalin posted... tremain07 posted... He's just gonna deny he said that or ignore it. he fled the topic. This is the most admiral thing admiral could do. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:907301991] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote>He's just gonna deny he said that or ignore it.</quote> he fled the topic.</quote> This is the most admiral thing admiral could do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 08/21/18 5:48:35 PM #69:	Isnt it possible for a trump pardon at the end of his presidency? <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:907302342] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote>Isnt it possible for a trump pardon at the end of his presidency?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 08/21/18 5:50:59 PM #70:	Why would he wait til then when he could do it in a few hours from now? --- IGN: Sun FC: 0061-0132-7564 <cite>tremain07 posted [p:907302466] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote>Why would he wait til then when he could do it in a few hours from now?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bevan306 08/21/18 5:54:46 PM #71:	how's that swampy drainy stuff working out for ya --- http://rateyourmusic.com/~bevan https://imgur.com/5Ta28 <cite>bevan306 posted [p:907302699] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote>how's that swampy drainy stuff working out for ya</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DD Divine 08/21/18 6:03:48 PM #73:	Metua posted... Between this and Cohen, Trump is probably livid. Cant wait to hear him call it a witch hunt at tonights rally. Funny how all these convictions for just a witch hunt --- while driving yesterday I saw a banana peel in the road and I instinctively swerved to miss it, thanks a lot Mario Kart. <cite>DD Divine posted [p:907303256] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Metua posted...</cite> <quote>Between this and Cohen, Trump is probably livid.</quote> Cant wait to hear him call it a witch hunt at tonights rally. Funny how all these convictions for just a witch hunt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 08/21/18 6:06:11 PM #74:	DD Divine posted... Metua posted... Between this and Cohen, Trump is probably livid. Cant wait to hear him call it a witch hunt at tonights rally. Funny how all these convictions for just a witch hunt It would be great if he got called in to court in the middle of his rally. --- Hive Mind of Dark Aether, the unofficial Metroid Social Private board. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:907303394] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>DD Divine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Metua posted...</cite> <quote>Between this and Cohen, Trump is probably livid.</quote> Cant wait to hear him call it a witch hunt at tonights rally. Funny how all these convictions for just a witch hunt</quote> It would be great if he got called in to court in the middle of his rally.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Spam_n_eggs 08/21/18 6:31:00 PM #75:	Broseph_Stalin posted... 0AbsoluteZero0 posted... Spam_n_eggs posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted... https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/politics/paul-manafort-trial-jury/index.html @The_Admiral Wheres that screenshot of him calling the Manafort raid a nothingburger? Lmfao Much symbolic Very nothing Wow <cite>Spam_n_eggs posted [p:907304824] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Spam_n_eggs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/politics/paul-manafort-trial-jury/index.html</quote> @The_Admiral</quote> Wheres that screenshot of him calling the Manafort raid a nothingburger? Lmfao</quote> </quote> Much symbolic Very nothing Wow</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 08/21/18 6:34:57 PM #76:	Nomadic View posted... TheOlJollyRoger posted... frozenshock posted... Can't Trump just pardon him? If he wants to be impeached sure I dont think he would get impeached for exercising his constitutional authority as president. But I do think it would be horrible for him politically and for the mid term elections. With a republican majority Congress, maybe not. With any reasonable, competent Congress, yes it would --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:907305060] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheOlJollyRoger posted...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote>Can't Trump just pardon him?</quote> If he wants to be impeached sure</quote> I dont think he would get impeached for exercising his constitutional authority as president. But I do think it would be horrible for him politically and for the mid term elections.</quote> With a republican majority Congress, maybe not. With any reasonable, competent Congress, yes it would</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Star_Spirit 08/21/18 8:20:33 PM #77:	hahaha fuck trump and his supporters --- "A prostitute is like any other woman, they all trade something for sex." -Trey Parker <cite>Star_Spirit posted [p:907311312] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote>hahaha fuck trump and his supporters</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Spam_n_eggs 08/21/18 8:38:56 PM #78:	Star_Spirit posted... hahaha fuck trump and his supporters Yeh <cite>Spam_n_eggs posted [p:907312358] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Star_Spirit posted...</cite> <quote>hahaha fuck trump and his supporters</quote> Yeh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
slimfizzle2 08/21/18 8:43:40 PM #79:	Spam_n_eggs posted... Star_Spirit posted... hahaha fuck trump and his supporters Yeh Yarp --- Solomon Grundy wants Pants Too! <cite>slimfizzle2 posted [p:907312628] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Spam_n_eggs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Star_Spirit posted...</cite> <quote>hahaha fuck trump and his supporters</quote> Yeh</quote> Yarp</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 08/21/18 8:53:50 PM #80:	shockthemonkey posted... Nomadic View posted... shockthemonkey posted... SK8T3R215 posted... 0AbsoluteZero0 posted... Spam_n_eggs posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted... https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/politics/paul-manafort-trial-jury/index.html @The_Admiral Wheres that screenshot of him calling the Manafort raid a nothingburger? Lmfao Aren't Manafort's charges really unrelated to the campaign as a whole? Cohen saying he violated laws through Trump is much more damning to Trump than Manafort's charges which really deal with his personal dealings from what I read. Manaforts guilty verdict isnt directly tied to Trump but it gives Manafort incentive to flip on Trump in order to avoid jail. Thats been the entire purpose of this whole thing. Do you think Manafort deserved to be prosecuted for his crimes? Yep --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:907313229] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SK8T3R215 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Spam_n_eggs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/politics/paul-manafort-trial-jury/index.html</quote> @The_Admiral</quote> Wheres that screenshot of him calling the Manafort raid a nothingburger? Lmfao</quote> Aren't Manafort's charges really unrelated to the campaign as a whole? Cohen saying he violated laws through Trump is much more damning to Trump than Manafort's charges which really deal with his personal dealings from what I read.</quote> Manaforts guilty verdict isnt directly tied to Trump but it gives Manafort incentive to flip on Trump in order to avoid jail.</quote> Thats been the entire purpose of this whole thing.</quote> Do you think Manafort deserved to be prosecuted for his crimes?</quote> Yep</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 08/21/18 8:57:49 PM #81:	Nomadic View posted... CNN wanted to dox the jurors in this trial. https://thefederalist.com/2018/08/17/federal-judge-denies-cnn-request-dox-jurors-manafort-trial/ But theyre totally not the enemy of the people! --- "No it doesn't. Abortion has never killed a single baby." - Russian Rocket <cite>Caution999 posted [p:907313437] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>CNN wanted to dox the jurors in this trial. https://thefederalist.com/2018/08/17/federal-judge-denies-cnn-request-dox-jurors-manafort-trial/</quote> But theyre totally not the enemy of the people!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkTransient 08/21/18 9:01:40 PM #82:	Caution999 posted... Nomadic View posted... CNN wanted to dox the jurors in this trial. https://thefederalist.com/2018/08/17/federal-judge-denies-cnn-request-dox-jurors-manafort-trial/ But theyre totally not the enemy of the people! Nope, the new line is "it's journalism, not doxxing, when we do it"; see previous posts ITT. --- http://www.facebook.com/loaocos/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAfJB3KYYDg <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:907313687] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>CNN wanted to dox the jurors in this trial. https://thefederalist.com/2018/08/17/federal-judge-denies-cnn-request-dox-jurors-manafort-trial/</quote> But theyre totally not the enemy of the people!</quote> Nope, the new line is "it's journalism, not doxxing, when we do it"; see previous posts ITT.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 08/21/18 9:56:29 PM #83:	DarkTransient posted... Caution999 posted... Nomadic View posted... CNN wanted to dox the jurors in this trial. https://thefederalist.com/2018/08/17/federal-judge-denies-cnn-request-dox-jurors-manafort-trial/ But theyre totally not the enemy of the people! Nope, the new line is "it's journalism, not doxxing, when we do it"; see previous posts ITT. Or just people saying "it's only a deflection and isn't relevant", even though it's directly about the people involved in the trial. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Howl posted [p:907317138] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote> CNN wanted to dox the jurors in this trial. https://thefederalist.com/2018/08/17/federal-judge-denies-cnn-request-dox-jurors-manafort-trial/ </quote> But theyre totally not the enemy of the people!</quote> Nope, the new line is "it's journalism, not doxxing, when we do it"; see previous posts ITT.</quote> Or just people saying "it's only a deflection and isn't relevant", even though it's directly about the people involved in the trial.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Schwarber 08/21/18 9:58:24 PM #84:	Topic got pretty sticky in the last few posts. Keep that shit in the bedroom. --- https://imgur.com/iQXgYOx https://imgur.com/l3frhSF https://imgur.com/HM1Hjby https://imgur.com/bvsFH0H - drawn by Yaridovich <cite>Schwarber posted [p:907317248] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote>Topic got pretty sticky in the last few posts. Keep that shit in the bedroom.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 08/21/18 11:14:41 PM #85:	Howl posted... DarkTransient posted... Caution999 posted... Nomadic View posted... CNN wanted to dox the jurors in this trial. https://thefederalist.com/2018/08/17/federal-judge-denies-cnn-request-dox-jurors-manafort-trial/ But theyre totally not the enemy of the people! Nope, the new line is "it's journalism, not doxxing, when we do it"; see previous posts ITT. Or just people saying "it's only a deflection and isn't relevant", even though it's directly about the people involved in the trial. A few points: As others have stated, the topic is on the legal outcomes of the trial - feel free to make another thread on CNN's role in the trial Maybe you didn't read the whole thread, but post 52 pointed out the Federalist article was intentionally misleading. https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/08/20/conservatives-cant-identify-journalism-confuse-it-with-doxxing/ The Federalist also has a history of being misleading/creating biased stories (at least according to Wikipedia) - does this make them "Fake news"? If so, why was it cited? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:907321863] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote> CNN wanted to dox the jurors in this trial. https://thefederalist.com/2018/08/17/federal-judge-denies-cnn-request-dox-jurors-manafort-trial/ </quote> But theyre totally not the enemy of the people!</quote> Nope, the new line is "it's journalism, not doxxing, when we do it"; see previous posts ITT.</quote> Or just people saying "it's only a deflection and isn't relevant", even though it's directly about the people involved in the trial.</quote> A few points: As others have stated, the topic is on the legal outcomes of the trial - feel free to make another thread on CNN's role in the trial Maybe you didn't read the whole thread, but post 52 pointed out the Federalist article was intentionally misleading. https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/08/20/conservatives-cant-identify-journalism-confuse-it-with-doxxing/ The Federalist also has a history of being misleading/creating biased stories (at least according to Wikipedia) - does this make them "Fake news"? If so, why was it cited?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 08/22/18 1:21:42 AM #86:	Ruvan22 posted... Howl posted... DarkTransient posted... Caution999 posted... Nomadic View posted... CNN wanted to dox the jurors in this trial. https://thefederalist.com/2018/08/17/federal-judge-denies-cnn-request-dox-jurors-manafort-trial/ But theyre totally not the enemy of the people! Nope, the new line is "it's journalism, not doxxing, when we do it"; see previous posts ITT. Or just people saying "it's only a deflection and isn't relevant", even though it's directly about the people involved in the trial. A few points: As others have stated, the topic is on the legal outcomes of the trial - feel free to make another thread on CNN's role in the trial Maybe you didn't read the whole thread, but post 52 pointed out the Federalist article was intentionally misleading. https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/08/20/conservatives-cant-identify-journalism-confuse-it-with-doxxing/ The Federalist also has a history of being misleading/creating biased stories (at least according to Wikipedia) - does this make them "Fake news"? If so, why was it cited? It's fucking stupid to claim that "it's just journalism as usual" knowing fully well that the judge in this trial already received death threats himself. What they were doing in this case is exactly the same as doxxing because it isn't a normal trial and there are other factors to consider like the safety of the jury members. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Howl posted [p:907327461] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote> CNN wanted to dox the jurors in this trial. https://thefederalist.com/2018/08/17/federal-judge-denies-cnn-request-dox-jurors-manafort-trial/ </quote> But theyre totally not the enemy of the people! </quote> Nope, the new line is "it's journalism, not doxxing, when we do it"; see previous posts ITT. </quote> Or just people saying "it's only a deflection and isn't relevant", even though it's directly about the people involved in the trial.</quote> A few points: As others have stated, the topic is on the legal outcomes of the trial - feel free to make another thread on CNN's role in the trial Maybe you didn't read the whole thread, but post 52 pointed out the Federalist article was intentionally misleading. https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/08/20/conservatives-cant-identify-journalism-confuse-it-with-doxxing/ The Federalist also has a history of being misleading/creating biased stories (at least according to Wikipedia) - does this make them "Fake news"? If so, why was it cited?</quote> It's fucking stupid to claim that "it's just journalism as usual" knowing fully well that the judge in this trial already received death threats himself. What they were doing in this case is exactly the same as doxxing because it isn't a normal trial and there are other factors to consider like the safety of the jury members.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 08/22/18 1:26:12 AM #87:	Howl posted... Ruvan22 posted... Howl posted... DarkTransient posted... Caution999 posted... Nomadic View posted... CNN wanted to dox the jurors in this trial. https://thefederalist.com/2018/08/17/federal-judge-denies-cnn-request-dox-jurors-manafort-trial/ But theyre totally not the enemy of the people! Nope, the new line is "it's journalism, not doxxing, when we do it"; see previous posts ITT. Or just people saying "it's only a deflection and isn't relevant", even though it's directly about the people involved in the trial. A few points: As others have stated, the topic is on the legal outcomes of the trial - feel free to make another thread on CNN's role in the trial Maybe you didn't read the whole thread, but post 52 pointed out the Federalist article was intentionally misleading. https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/08/20/conservatives-cant-identify-journalism-confuse-it-with-doxxing/ The Federalist also has a history of being misleading/creating biased stories (at least according to Wikipedia) - does this make them "Fake news"? If so, why was it cited? It's fucking stupid to claim that "it's just journalism as usual" knowing fully well that the judge in this trial already received death threats himself. What they were doing in this case is exactly the same as doxxing because it isn't a normal trial and there are other factors to consider like the safety of the jury members. Did you read the second article about why it ISN'T doxxing? And you didn't respond to the first or third points, care to try again? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:907327625] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote> CNN wanted to dox the jurors in this trial. https://thefederalist.com/2018/08/17/federal-judge-denies-cnn-request-dox-jurors-manafort-trial/ </quote> But theyre totally not the enemy of the people! </quote> Nope, the new line is "it's journalism, not doxxing, when we do it"; see previous posts ITT. </quote> Or just people saying "it's only a deflection and isn't relevant", even though it's directly about the people involved in the trial.</quote> A few points: As others have stated, the topic is on the legal outcomes of the trial - feel free to make another thread on CNN's role in the trial Maybe you didn't read the whole thread, but post 52 pointed out the Federalist article was intentionally misleading. https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/08/20/conservatives-cant-identify-journalism-confuse-it-with-doxxing/ The Federalist also has a history of being misleading/creating biased stories (at least according to Wikipedia) - does this make them "Fake news"? If so, why was it cited?</quote> It's fucking stupid to claim that "it's just journalism as usual" knowing fully well that the judge in this trial already received death threats himself. What they were doing in this case is exactly the same as doxxing because it isn't a normal trial and there are other factors to consider like the safety of the jury members.</quote> Did you read the second article about why it ISN'T doxxing? And you didn't respond to the first or third points, care to try again?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 08/22/18 1:32:44 AM #88:	Ruvan22 posted... Howl posted... Ruvan22 posted... Howl posted... DarkTransient posted... Caution999 posted... Nomadic View posted... CNN wanted to dox the jurors in this trial. https://thefederalist.com/2018/08/17/federal-judge-denies-cnn-request-dox-jurors-manafort-trial/ But theyre totally not the enemy of the people! Nope, the new line is "it's journalism, not doxxing, when we do it"; see previous posts ITT. Or just people saying "it's only a deflection and isn't relevant", even though it's directly about the people involved in the trial. A few points: As others have stated, the topic is on the legal outcomes of the trial - feel free to make another thread on CNN's role in the trial Maybe you didn't read the whole thread, but post 52 pointed out the Federalist article was intentionally misleading. https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/08/20/conservatives-cant-identify-journalism-confuse-it-with-doxxing/ The Federalist also has a history of being misleading/creating biased stories (at least according to Wikipedia) - does this make them "Fake news"? If so, why was it cited? It's fucking stupid to claim that "it's just journalism as usual" knowing fully well that the judge in this trial already received death threats himself. What they were doing in this case is exactly the same as doxxing because it isn't a normal trial and there are other factors to consider like the safety of the jury members. Did you read the second article about why it ISN'T doxxing? And you didn't respond to the first or third points, care to try again? Howl won't be able to comprehend the second article no matter how many times it gets posted. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:907327860] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote> CNN wanted to dox the jurors in this trial. https://thefederalist.com/2018/08/17/federal-judge-denies-cnn-request-dox-jurors-manafort-trial/ </quote> But theyre totally not the enemy of the people! </quote> Nope, the new line is "it's journalism, not doxxing, when we do it"; see previous posts ITT. </quote> Or just people saying "it's only a deflection and isn't relevant", even though it's directly about the people involved in the trial.</quote> A few points: As others have stated, the topic is on the legal outcomes of the trial - feel free to make another thread on CNN's role in the trial Maybe you didn't read the whole thread, but post 52 pointed out the Federalist article was intentionally misleading. https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/08/20/conservatives-cant-identify-journalism-confuse-it-with-doxxing/ The Federalist also has a history of being misleading/creating biased stories (at least according to Wikipedia) - does this make them "Fake news"? If so, why was it cited?</quote> It's fucking stupid to claim that "it's just journalism as usual" knowing fully well that the judge in this trial already received death threats himself. What they were doing in this case is exactly the same as doxxing because it isn't a normal trial and there are other factors to consider like the safety of the jury members.</quote> Did you read the second article about why it ISN'T doxxing? And you didn't respond to the first or third points, care to try again?</quote> Howl won't be able to comprehend the second article no matter how many times it gets posted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 08/22/18 1:43:25 AM #89:	Ruvan22 posted... Howl posted... Ruvan22 posted... Howl posted... DarkTransient posted... Caution999 posted... Nomadic View posted... CNN wanted to dox the jurors in this trial. https://thefederalist.com/2018/08/17/federal-judge-denies-cnn-request-dox-jurors-manafort-trial/ But theyre totally not the enemy of the people! Nope, the new line is "it's journalism, not doxxing, when we do it"; see previous posts ITT. Or just people saying "it's only a deflection and isn't relevant", even though it's directly about the people involved in the trial. A few points: As others have stated, the topic is on the legal outcomes of the trial - feel free to make another thread on CNN's role in the trial Maybe you didn't read the whole thread, but post 52 pointed out the Federalist article was intentionally misleading. https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/08/20/conservatives-cant-identify-journalism-confuse-it-with-doxxing/ The Federalist also has a history of being misleading/creating biased stories (at least according to Wikipedia) - does this make them "Fake news"? If so, why was it cited? It's fucking stupid to claim that "it's just journalism as usual" knowing fully well that the judge in this trial already received death threats himself. What they were doing in this case is exactly the same as doxxing because it isn't a normal trial and there are other factors to consider like the safety of the jury members. Did you read the second article about why it ISN'T doxxing? And you didn't respond to the first or third points, care to try again? Villagevoice.com is rated as being "moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation." According to https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ So the third point is at best a wash. The first point is irrelevant. Topics on CE literally are not confined by what you decide the appropriate level of relevance posts have to have to the topic title. There is no topicality here to speak of, and regardless this is directly related to the topic title to begin with. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Howl posted [p:907328163] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote> CNN wanted to dox the jurors in this trial. https://thefederalist.com/2018/08/17/federal-judge-denies-cnn-request-dox-jurors-manafort-trial/ </quote> But theyre totally not the enemy of the people! </quote> Nope, the new line is "it's journalism, not doxxing, when we do it"; see previous posts ITT. </quote> Or just people saying "it's only a deflection and isn't relevant", even though it's directly about the people involved in the trial. </quote> A few points: As others have stated, the topic is on the legal outcomes of the trial - feel free to make another thread on CNN's role in the trial Maybe you didn't read the whole thread, but post 52 pointed out the Federalist article was intentionally misleading. https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/08/20/conservatives-cant-identify-journalism-confuse-it-with-doxxing/ The Federalist also has a history of being misleading/creating biased stories (at least according to Wikipedia) - does this make them "Fake news"? If so, why was it cited? </quote> It's fucking stupid to claim that "it's just journalism as usual" knowing fully well that the judge in this trial already received death threats himself. What they were doing in this case is exactly the same as doxxing because it isn't a normal trial and there are other factors to consider like the safety of the jury members.</quote> Did you read the second article about why it ISN'T doxxing? And you didn't respond to the first or third points, care to try again?</quote> Villagevoice.com is rated as being "moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation." According to https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ So the third point is at best a wash. The first point is irrelevant. Topics on CE literally are not confined by what you decide the appropriate level of relevance posts have to have to the topic title. There is no topicality here to speak of, and regardless this is directly related to the topic title to begin with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dagon_0 08/22/18 1:48:28 AM #90:	I'm interested to see if Trump pardons him before he gets real prison time, that would be a real shitstorm. <cite>Dagon_0 posted [p:907328305] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote>I'm interested to see if Trump pardons him before he gets real prison time, that would be a real shitstorm.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 08/22/18 1:53:09 AM #91:	Read the article the Trumpanzees posted, its singling out CNN while also mentioning that it was a joint filing by various news organizations. And it was asking for information about the court case, court cases involves jurors. Its on the prosecutor or defense to ask for a court order which withholds the names of jurors (an innominate jury) So this is just another nothingburger by desperate Trumpanzees trying to undermine anything bad regarding Trump & his criminal friends. --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:907328446] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote>Read the article the Trumpanzees posted, its singling out CNN while also mentioning that it was a joint filing by various news organizations. And it was asking for information about the court case, court cases involves jurors. Its on the prosecutor or defense to ask for a court order which withholds the names of jurors (an innominate jury) So this is just another nothingburger by desperate Trumpanzees trying to undermine anything bad regarding Trump & his criminal friends.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 08/22/18 1:55:27 AM #92:	So Manafort admits to illegal action that may involve trump, and we get two pages of people bitching about CNN? Classic diversionary tactics. Can't believe some people are stupid enough to fall for it. Even if CNN is doing something wrong, that doesn't mean Manafort is innocent. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:907328521] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote>So Manafort admits to illegal action that may involve trump, and we get two pages of people bitching about CNN? Classic diversionary tactics. Can't believe some people are stupid enough to fall for it. Even if CNN is doing something wrong, that doesn't mean Manafort is innocent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 08/22/18 2:03:02 AM #93:	Dagon_0 posted... I'm interested to see if Trump pardons him before he gets real prison time, that would be a real shitstorm. He can only pardon for the federal charges, not state. So either way hes screwed. --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:907328758] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dagon_0 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm interested to see if Trump pardons him before he gets real prison time, that would be a real shitstorm.</quote> He can only pardon for the federal charges, not state. So either way hes screwed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giblet_Enjoyer 08/22/18 2:16:58 AM #94:	Axiom posted... Howl posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Nomadic View posted... CNN wanted to dox the jurors in this trial. https://thefederalist.com/2018/08/17/federal-judge-denies-cnn-request-dox-jurors-manafort-trial/ But cnn! Why is CNN trying to dox the jury members not important iyo? It's pretty fucking important tbh. https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/08/20/conservatives-cant-identify-journalism-confuse-it-with-doxxing/ We may never find out what jurors thought or heard during deliberations once the trial ends. Judge T.S. Ellis III has blocked the release of any information that might get them identified by the press. Requesting access to juror info is a common reporter gambit used, for example, after the Bill Cosby trial to get the sort of juror quotes you read in high-level, post-trial reports. The Associated Press, the New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN, NBC, Politico, and BuzzFeed all petitioned the court together to obtain the jurors names and addresses and other currently unavailable Manafort trial information, citing precedent that jury information should be revealed absent extraordinary circumstances such as realistic threats of violence or jury corruption. But, Judge Ellis said there had been threats to him. Ellis revealed he was under the protection of U.S. marshals, and said he feared for the jurors peace and safety, which led him to refuse the request. Seems pretty straightforward. But conservatives who did not know, or did not care to know that this was standard journalistic practice told readers that reporters wanted to know the jurors names, not to write stories, but so they could dox them to coerce a conviction of Manafort on behalf of the Democrats. You guys should really stop falling for fake news To be fair, the average conservative has probably never been exposed to actual journalism --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:907329180] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote> CNN wanted to dox the jurors in this trial. https://thefederalist.com/2018/08/17/federal-judge-denies-cnn-request-dox-jurors-manafort-trial/</quote> But cnn!</quote> Why is CNN trying to dox the jury members not important iyo? It's pretty fucking important tbh.</quote> https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/08/20/conservatives-cant-identify-journalism-confuse-it-with-doxxing/ We may never find out what jurors thought or heard during deliberations once the trial ends. Judge T.S. Ellis III has blocked the release of any information that might get them identified by the press. Requesting access to juror info is a common reporter gambit used, for example, after the Bill Cosby trial to get the sort of juror quotes you read in high-level, post-trial reports. The Associated Press, the New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN, NBC, Politico, and BuzzFeed all petitioned the court together to obtain the jurors names and addresses and other currently unavailable Manafort trial information, citing precedent that jury information should be revealed absent extraordinary circumstances such as realistic threats of violence or jury corruption. But, Judge Ellis said there had been threats to him. Ellis revealed he was under the protection of U.S. marshals, and said he feared for the jurors peace and safety, which led him to refuse the request. Seems pretty straightforward. But conservatives who did not know, or did not care to know that this was standard journalistic practice told readers that reporters wanted to know the jurors names, not to write stories, but so they could dox them to coerce a conviction of Manafort on behalf of the Democrats. You guys should really stop falling for fake news</quote> To be fair, the average conservative has probably never been exposed to actual journalism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 08/22/18 2:33:21 AM #95:	That doesn't explain why they wanted the jurors identities to be exposed. Giblet_Enjoyer posted... Requesting access to juror info is a common reporter gambit used, for example, after the Bill Cosby trial They were requesting the doxx before this trial ended. Giblet_Enjoyer posted... citing precedent that jury information should be revealed absent extraordinary circumstances such as realistic threats of violence or jury corruption. Judge was sent threats. The very same article you're quoting references this. --- "Don't trade your authenticity for approval." -Kanye West <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:907329646] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote>That doesn't explain why they wanted the jurors identities to be exposed. <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted...</cite> <quote>Requesting access to juror info is a common reporter gambit used, for example, after the Bill Cosby trial </quote> They were requesting the doxx before this trial ended. <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted...</cite> <quote>citing precedent that jury information should be revealed absent extraordinary circumstances such as realistic threats of violence or jury corruption. </quote> Judge was sent threats. The very same article you're quoting references this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 08/22/18 8:11:36 AM #96:	Because there's nothing indicating they'd actually name the Jurors. As it noted the names were released in the Cosby trial and as far as I'm aware only two of them have publicly outed themselves, with none by the media, and one of them (who did the TV interviews) was before the names were even officially released. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:907336581] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote>Because there's nothing indicating they'd actually name the Jurors. As it noted the names were released in the Cosby trial and as far as I'm aware only two of them have publicly outed themselves, with none by the media, and one of them (who did the TV interviews) was before the names were even officially released.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 08/22/18 10:43:32 PM #97:	Howl posted... Ruvan22 posted... Howl posted... Ruvan22 posted... Howl posted... DarkTransient posted... Caution999 posted... Nope, the new line is "it's journalism, not doxxing, when we do it"; see previous posts ITT. Or just people saying "it's only a deflection and isn't relevant", even though it's directly about the people involved in the trial. A few points: As others have stated, the topic is on the legal outcomes of the trial - feel free to make another thread on CNN's role in the trial Maybe you didn't read the whole thread, but post 52 pointed out the Federalist article was intentionally misleading. https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/08/20/conservatives-cant-identify-journalism-confuse-it-with-doxxing/ The Federalist also has a history of being misleading/creating biased stories (at least according to Wikipedia) - does this make them "Fake news"? If so, why was it cited? It's fucking stupid to claim that "it's just journalism as usual" knowing fully well that the judge in this trial already received death threats himself. What they were doing in this case is exactly the same as doxxing because it isn't a normal trial and there are other factors to consider like the safety of the jury members. Did you read the second article about why it ISN'T doxxing? And you didn't respond to the first or third points, care to try again? Villagevoice.com is rated as being "moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation." According to https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ So the third point is at best a wash. The first point is irrelevant. Topics on CE literally are not confined by what you decide the appropriate level of relevance posts have to have to the topic title. There is no topicality here to speak of, and regardless this is directly related to the topic title to begin with. So while the two sources may be biased, what did you find factually incorrect in the village voice article? In other threads you have stated two instances DON'T make a pattern (when talking about Trump's activities etc). Is this metric not correct anymore? As for relevance to thread title, topics do have SOME limits, otherwise there wouldn't be a purpose FOR a thread title. What does CNN's activities have to do with Manafort being found guilty? Did they orchestrate a guilty verdict? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:907382232] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> Nope, the new line is "it's journalism, not doxxing, when we do it"; see previous posts ITT. </quote> Or just people saying "it's only a deflection and isn't relevant", even though it's directly about the people involved in the trial. </quote> A few points: As others have stated, the topic is on the legal outcomes of the trial - feel free to make another thread on CNN's role in the trial Maybe you didn't read the whole thread, but post 52 pointed out the Federalist article was intentionally misleading. https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/08/20/conservatives-cant-identify-journalism-confuse-it-with-doxxing/ The Federalist also has a history of being misleading/creating biased stories (at least according to Wikipedia) - does this make them "Fake news"? If so, why was it cited? </quote> It's fucking stupid to claim that "it's just journalism as usual" knowing fully well that the judge in this trial already received death threats himself. What they were doing in this case is exactly the same as doxxing because it isn't a normal trial and there are other factors to consider like the safety of the jury members.</quote> Did you read the second article about why it ISN'T doxxing? And you didn't respond to the first or third points, care to try again?</quote> Villagevoice.com is rated as being "moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation." According to https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ So the third point is at best a wash. The first point is irrelevant. Topics on CE literally are not confined by what you decide the appropriate level of relevance posts have to have to the topic title. There is no topicality here to speak of, and regardless this is directly related to the topic title to begin with.</quote> So while the two sources may be biased, what did you find factually incorrect in the village voice article? In other threads you have stated two instances DON'T make a pattern (when talking about Trump's activities etc). Is this metric not correct anymore? As for relevance to thread title, topics do have SOME limits, otherwise there wouldn't be a purpose FOR a thread title. What does CNN's activities have to do with Manafort being found guilty? Did they orchestrate a guilty verdict?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 08/22/18 10:45:19 PM #98:	Funbazooka posted... That doesn't explain why they wanted the jurors identities to be exposed. Giblet_Enjoyer posted... Requesting access to juror info is a common reporter gambit used, for example, after the Bill Cosby trial They were requesting the doxx before this trial ended. Giblet_Enjoyer posted... citing precedent that jury information should be revealed absent extraordinary circumstances such as realistic threats of violence or jury corruption. Judge was sent threats. The very same article you're quoting references this. Holy shit you conservaderps are still going at this? --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:907382315] in Manafort f... [t:76924287]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote>That doesn't explain why they wanted the jurors identities to be exposed. <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted...</cite> <quote>Requesting access to juror info is a common reporter gambit used, for example, after the Bill Cosby trial </quote> They were requesting the doxx before this trial ended. <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted...</cite> <quote>citing precedent that jury information should be revealed absent extraordinary circumstances such as realistic threats of violence or jury corruption. </quote> Judge was sent threats. The very same article you're quoting references this.</quote> Holy shit you conservaderps are still going at this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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