Board 8 > pxl plays Trails in the Sky and maybe other stuff

(+) Yeah! (+)

<3
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pxlated posted...

Oh boy. This guy at the bar while I was waiting for morgan is going to be fun

Olivier HYPE

Double checking chests was a good call
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Schera x Olivier drinking scenes are good stuff
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so im guessing this special intelligence guy is bad

Chapter 1 pretty much done
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pxlated posted...

Schera x Olivier drinking scenes are good stuff

olivier wasn't ready
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Where is the "murder the gross noble that just stole my penthouse" option
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Estelle and josh roasting his ass is great, though
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Kloe is nice

Also playing around with quartz combos is fun
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Jesus

These spiders in the old schook building are ridiculous

Two turns to each one i get, and i dont have Josh so im at an even bigger disadvantage

Eugh
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Nevermind

I chaos branded them into killing each other
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So uh

Fango and bronco

The fuck am i doing wrong?

Been failing at this for too long now. One obviously resists magic, the other phys. Okay i can deal with that. Try to whittle down both before killing one, ok. Delay turns as much as possible with flicker. Okay.

What the fuck am i missing
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Try using buffs if you're not?

Spd, Agi, Def.

Not sure what all is in FC or what you have access to atm though.

You otherwise seem like you have a handle on the fights mechanics. That's probably the first actual difficulty spike of the game so don't feel too bad.

I tried buffs once and just it didnt end well, bad rng maybe.

I just backed out and filled up on cp and bought faint/poison resist gear for everyone. Will try again
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I think buffs would be easier if i had access to party wide buffs instead of trying to buff everyone individually while still keeping damage output out
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Whats weird to me is my spells do more damage to the one that resists magic than the one that doesnt almost double
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Maybe there is some secondary effect im not aware of thats causing the "resist" pop up actually
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God damnit i was so close that time. One left with 300 hp >_<

They pushed us apart so that i couldnt do a group heal and 2 of the 3 went down.

Not being able to move and cast in the same turn is so lame. Especially when casting takes 2 turns anyway
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One left with about 15 hp this time...
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Okay jesus. Way too many tries later and i finally got it. Got lucky and they stayed in a spot that let me hit both of them with flicker like 4 turns in a row. Got one down and then unloaded on the other with s breaks before it got a turn.

Gotta love battles decided by rng
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Boat chase \m/
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I see I am too late, but the "answer" to:

pxlated posted...

What the fuck am i missing

Was "Kaempfer." That craft is OP. Probably the most in FC. The debuff it inflicts is just crippling to enemies. It would completely neutralize the offense of whatever it hit (and also weaken DEF too.)

Buffs at that point in FC probably aren't too useful (and arguably at any point in FC though I think you can make a case for Clock Up EX late game). The exception being Earth Wall which itself is kind of gamebreaking since it provides immunity to any one attack for anyone in its AoE so it's very useful in a pinch or if you're willing to commit to turtling of a sort/sacrificing offense.

Though, as mentioned, that is considered one of the harder fights in the game for most people so don't feel bad that it gave you trouble.
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Oh right yeah I forgot Kaempfer is like 50% in FC

It's pretty broken

i used that and it didnt help much! It lasts one turn and her turns were better spent making sure everyone didnt die

It also seemed to miss as often as it hit
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I feel like it should have lasted two! But buffs/debuffs are a bit weird in Sky in that I think their duration is determined in a kind of behind the scenes way based on how much "time" passes. And so at lower levels where speed is lower for everyone, the duration feels shorter because more "time" passes as turns go by because technically it takes longer for them to come up.

but again you as the player never see any of this

Earth Wall spam probably works though. Put Estelle on that duty, Joshua on offense, and Kloe either casts Aqua Bleed, heals if something gets through Earth Wall, casts Earth Wall herself if its down for whatever reason. It'd be EP intensive and would slow the fight down since only Joshua would be on dedicated offense but it'd be really tough to disrupt.

Personally for that fight I have Kloe on constant Kaempfer duty, Joshua as main offense, and Estelle either heals or attacks as needed (this is often Estelle's job for me regardless of party because she's best suited to it since her orbment has no restrictions so you can generally set her up to be whatever you need her to be at any time depending on who is in your party at the time/what you need.)

That kind of Earth Wall tank strategy will generally work throughout the game if you ever find yourself in a pinch again, since Earth Wall is an art and can be put on anyone you need. Kaempfer stuff requires Kloe to be in the party so is obviously much more situational.

Though, again, that's one of the harder fights so that's probably not a situation you'll face again often.
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Tita is the best
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Zeiss is the best town with the best characters.
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Tita is indeed the best yes

"Are you and joshua married?"

Tita too pure
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the royal guard are defnitely the bad guys right
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Im pretty tired of this rng difficulty

>entire boss team moves before i get a chance and wipes 2/3rds party
>retry
>same thing
>retry
>same thing
>retry
>this time i get two people to go first, confuse 2/3rds their party, win

Whoo fun boss battle



I enjoy difficulty in rpgs, which is why i picked hard. But the hardest things in this game seem to be entirely rng based. Or based on some system thats not explained and that i cant see. Like, ive got the highest speed boost quartz available on one of my party members but they didnt get to move first in all of those battles? But randomly does after however many tries?

And i have the "enemies get easier on retry" feature turned off so it isnt that
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I'm assuming this was the battle at the top of Carnelia Tower? That's another one of the tougher fights IMO because those guys are way stronger than they have any right to be.

Surprised they could all act first though. If Joshua had the best Action quartz available I feel like he should move first most of the time unless your team is underlevelled. I felt Hard was actually well balanced in FC despite the fact it was not designed to be (it's just a flat % boost on stats.) So I'm not too sure what to say!

those guys are silly though. that one move they have. uh... shadow stitch, i think it's called. it's so dumb.

Of the remaining fights in the game I think could qualify as possibly "tough" I feel like they at least earn it in terms of making sense in the story they'd be tough. The Mayor's Dogs and this fight though are more annoying IMO.
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I can't say I had any particular difficulty with hard mode in Sky (except for the prologue and Penguin bosses in SC anyway)

So I'm not too sure what you're doing wrong.

In that particular fight I'm not sure anything was done wrong! If that whole team goes first it's going to be ugly. They hit WAY too hard and they're also fast (and I want to say Shadow Stitch seems to have a better speed than their normal attacks which is just absurd, especially if they spam it. And they like to spam it.

The only real counter to that is to have gone in with max Craft Points, see the turn order, and go "nope" and just S-Break in and try to cheese them. But depending on party level even that might fail because I think it's plausible you only take down 1/3 that way and then you're going to get cut up since they'll act like 2-3 times each before you can move again since there's a long wait after S-Crafts.

Defense Quartz and current equipment might help but maybe not because they hit like trucks.

That tower fight really is kinda silly. It's like they dump enemies from a chapter ahead on you out of nowhere IMO.

There's a bit more I could say but I'd like to confirm I have the right fight first. Pretty sure I do because I can't think of any other fight that matches the situation but you never know.
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there's only been 2 moments that were really annoying. but they all seemed to be 100% rng bullshit. and maybe one or two treasure box fights that were mildly frustrating and wiped me once that were similarily RNG shit (the base enemies all coinciding to summon friends vs not summoning any) but not as annoying

josh with the speed quartz doesn't get first turn reliably. when i finally did manage to not have their whole team move first and nearly wipe my team, i didn't have any trouble at all.

and i don't think i'm underleveled because i'm getting jack shit for EXP from any enemies i can fight.

i guess i could have gone back and grinded CP to interrupt them but i was pretty low on EP from moving through the tower and the enemies there weren't easy enough to get through without spending more

oh, yeah, and it was the carnelia tower boss. and i have all current equipment.

i got through the fight. once i RNG'd into a good turn order i didn't have any trouble.
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Does Joshua have Black Fang? If so, I think your level is fine (it probably is if you're getting crap EXP) but that's basically the gauge I have for that fight.

Mechanically, I think that's the dumbest fight in the game. Mayor's Dogs I think there are strategies that generally work even if they may be a bit counter-intuitive. You have Earth Wall and Kaempfer (and throwing Hit Quartz on Kloe if the miss rate gets bad and I admit that craft does seem to be feast or famine. Sometimes it hits 95% of the time other times it's like 30%) and most importantly you usually have some time to think and act.

The Carnelia Tower Special Ops guys have the scenario you encountered which if you can't S-Break spam down you're just screwed.

FWIW, I don't consider any other fight to be like that. The other fights I'm thinking of can be potentially annoying but generally there's a way to strategize it out unless you get tremendously unlucky.
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i got black fang after winning that fight

and yeah, the dog fight i could have tried a couple things i didn't think of, but there was still a lot of RNG involved. just not as bad as this one was

the treasure fights in that tower were the bigger reason i was frustrated here though. like, generally they weren't hard at all until they all decide to summon those birds at the same time. and there were like 6 of that same treasure fight
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haven't played today, game time was spent trying dauntless with the bf
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bumpo
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dog fight just put Kloe in the corner and Estelle and Joshua around her and the dogs can't get to her. That was only really needed for Nightmare though
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bumpo
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I can't stand Estelle in this series. Kloe is so much better than her.
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Estelle is amazing you take that back! =(

Best playable character IMO. Gets one very strong challenger eventually. Entire cast is amazing though. Even its weaker characters would be pretty solid in most other games.
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I like Estelle but there's at least five characters in the series that I easily like better. Two of them aren't playable so I guess she might crack the top five playable characters but I definitely don't get the absolute love some folks have for her.
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xp1337 posted...

Zeiss is the best town with the best characters.

i'd say best music

i don't think this series has any well-written characters other than estelle and joshua, so

NBIceman posted...

I like Estelle but there's at least five characters in the series that I easily like better. Two of them aren't playable so I guess she might crack the top five playable characters but I definitely don't get the absolute love some folks have for her.

Joshua comes close, though the challenge I'm referring to comes from Kevin. Those are the solid Top 3 IMO. Agate, Tita, Kloe, and Olivier in a melee to determine the remainder of the Top 5.

Dels posted...

xp1337 posted...

Zeiss is the best town with the best characters.

i'd say best music

Definitely. Zeiss Town Theme best town theme.

it truly is the best town in all respects
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Best TitS characters

1. Estelle
2. Renne (character TC hasn't met yet)
3. Joshua
4/5: Idk pick two out of Cassius/Tita/Kloe/Olivier/Kevin

I never got the Zeiss love on this board. Best NPC's is Rolent by a mile imo, and my favorite town theme is probably Ruan.
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Bose has the best town theme. I really like mayor Maybelle as well.
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xp1337 posted...

Joshua comes close, though the challenge I'm referring to comes from Kevin. Those are the solid Top 3 IMO. Agate, Tita, Kloe, and Olivier in a melee to determine the remainder of the Top 5.

Kevin is my undisputed #1. Agate, Olivier, Cassius, and Loewe make up the rest of my top five. Estelle slots comfortably into the next tier with Joshua, Kloe, Schera, and Richard, which is still pretty good.
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