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PowerfulSageIRL 08/28/18 9:26:36 AM #51:	FLUFFYGERM posted... COVxy posted... Except I've always been hypercritical about survey methodology in general and have frequently criticized those on the "far left" when the post ridiculous conclusions that the data cannot support. LOL I've seen most of your posts and yet I've never seen a single example of this. Got an example? he already asked you for an example of when he claimed that survey methodology was rigorous, which you were unable to find <cite>PowerfulSageIRL posted [p:907680979] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>Except I've always been hypercritical about survey methodology in general and have frequently criticized those on the "far left" when the post ridiculous conclusions that the data cannot support.</quote> LOL I've seen most of your posts and yet I've never seen a single example of this. Got an example?</quote> he already asked you for an example of when he claimed that survey methodology was rigorous, which you were unable to find</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 08/28/18 9:26:36 AM #52:	PowerfulSageIRL posted... Esrac posted... PowerfulSageIRL posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... PowerfulSageIRL posted... thelovefist posted... I do not support statements like, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a mtf person" trans women are women they are different from cis women, but that doesn't suddenly make them any less of a woman woman is default trans woman is its own thing no such thing as "cis woman" except as a rhetorical attempt to try to make the default not the default what He is saying "cis woman" is an illegitimate term because the term "woman" applies as default to women who are not trans. You don't need the "cis" descriptor because you don't need to distinguish the default group. You can just call them women. You do need the descriptor "trans" for transwomen because transwomen aren't really women. They're transwomen. then he needs to get his head out of his ass I don't know. I can't say I entirely disagree with him. I'm okay with trans people existing, getting their hormone therapies and surgeries to transition if it helps them live a more tolerable life, having public and private medical insurances cover at least some of the expense, etc. But at no point have I ever been able to accept a transwoman as an actual, real woman. Just does not compute to me. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:907680981] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>PowerfulSageIRL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PowerfulSageIRL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PowerfulSageIRL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>I do not support statements like, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a mtf person"</quote> trans women are women they are different from cis women, but that doesn't suddenly make them any less of a woman</quote> woman is default trans woman is its own thing no such thing as "cis woman" except as a rhetorical attempt to try to make the default not the default</quote> what</quote> He is saying "cis woman" is an illegitimate term because the term "woman" applies as default to women who are not trans. You don't need the "cis" descriptor because you don't need to distinguish the default group. You can just call them women. You do need the descriptor "trans" for transwomen because transwomen aren't really women. They're transwomen.</quote> then he needs to get his head out of his ass</quote> I don't know. I can't say I entirely disagree with him. I'm okay with trans people existing, getting their hormone therapies and surgeries to transition if it helps them live a more tolerable life, having public and private medical insurances cover at least some of the expense, etc. But at no point have I ever been able to accept a transwoman as an actual, real woman. Just does not compute to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Esrac 08/28/18 9:32:07 AM #55:	I understand what you mean when you say that, but I don't accept it as true. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:907681204] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote>I understand what you mean when you say that, but I don't accept it as true.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 08/28/18 9:32:36 AM #56:	Esrac posted... But at no point have I ever been able to accept a transwoman as an actual, real woman. Just does not compute to me. Well, that's your own road to travel and no one else's. I just hope it doesn't lead to improper behavior if you get "tricked" at some point by a transwoman who, to you, looks as "real" as you have defined, and then you learn later that she's trans. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:907681227] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>But at no point have I ever been able to accept a transwoman as an actual, real woman. Just does not compute to me.</quote> Well, that's your own road to travel and no one else's. I just hope it doesn't lead to improper behavior if you get "tricked" at some point by a transwoman who, to you, looks as "real" as you have defined, and then you learn later that she's trans.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 08/28/18 9:36:20 AM #58:	CyricZ posted... Well, that's your own road to travel and no one else's. The vast majority of people think the way he does, so it's more that the alternative approach is the road less often traveled tbqh. The problem is that some people base their entire identity around the little bubble they occupy on the internet, and they begin to think that reality matches what they see and hear inside their unshaken echo chamber. So when they hear someone say what Esrac did, their entire identity is shaken and they can't even function except to want to shout him down. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:907681352] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote>Well, that's your own road to travel and no one else's. </quote> The vast majority of people think the way he does, so it's more that the alternative approach is the road less often traveled tbqh. The problem is that some people base their entire identity around the little bubble they occupy on the internet, and they begin to think that reality matches what they see and hear inside their unshaken echo chamber. So when they hear someone say what Esrac did, their entire identity is shaken and they can't even function except to want to shout him down.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thelovefist 08/28/18 9:37:22 AM #59:	shockthemonkey posted... Esrac posted... I understand what you mean when you say that, but I don't accept it as true. Its not debatable though. Trans women are women. Cis women are women. These are facts. I do not agree with a statement that says, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a transgendered woman". --- "honestly the worst thing about Shaun King is how pro-cop he is" - averagejoel <cite>thelovefist posted [p:907681401] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>I understand what you mean when you say that, but I don't accept it as true.</quote> Its not debatable though. Trans women are women. Cis women are women. These are facts.</quote> I do not agree with a statement that says, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a transgendered woman".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 08/28/18 9:39:59 AM #62:	thelovefist posted... shockthemonkey posted... Esrac posted... I understand what you mean when you say that, but I don't accept it as true. Its not debatable though. Trans women are women. Cis women are women. These are facts. I do not agree with a statement that says, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a transgendered woman". I mean, it's pretty much an indisputable fact that there are physical differences. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:907681506] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>I understand what you mean when you say that, but I don't accept it as true.</quote> Its not debatable though. Trans women are women. Cis women are women. These are facts.</quote> I do not agree with a statement that says, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a transgendered woman".</quote> I mean, it's pretty much an indisputable fact that there are physical differences.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 08/28/18 9:44:28 AM #63:	CyricZ posted... Esrac posted... But at no point have I ever been able to accept a transwoman as an actual, real woman. Just does not compute to me. Well, that's your own road to travel and no one else's. I just hope it doesn't lead to improper behavior if you get "tricked" at some point by a transwoman who, to you, looks as "real" as you have defined, and then you learn later that she's trans. Shut the fuck up. I don't need your bullshit insinuations. shockthemonkey posted... Esrac posted... I understand what you mean when you say that, but I don't accept it as true. Its not debatable though. Trans women are women. Cis women are women. These are facts. No. I don't buy that as true. Women are women and transwomen are transwomen. But transwomen are not actually women. Regardless, I don't think either of us would change each other's kind on it even if we tries to debate it. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:907681706] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>But at no point have I ever been able to accept a transwoman as an actual, real woman. Just does not compute to me.</quote> Well, that's your own road to travel and no one else's. I just hope it doesn't lead to improper behavior if you get "tricked" at some point by a transwoman who, to you, looks as "real" as you have defined, and then you learn later that she's trans.</quote> Shut the fuck up. I don't need your bullshit insinuations. <cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>I understand what you mean when you say that, but I don't accept it as true.</quote> Its not debatable though. Trans women are women. Cis women are women. These are facts.</quote> No. I don't buy that as true. Women are women and transwomen are transwomen. But transwomen are not actually women. Regardless, I don't think either of us would change each other's kind on it even if we tries to debate it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 08/28/18 9:44:52 AM #64:	Esrac posted... Shut the f* up. I don't need your bulls* insinuations. It's CyricZ. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:907681720] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>Shut the f* up. I don't need your bulls* insinuations. </quote> It's CyricZ.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerfulSageIRL 08/28/18 9:46:56 AM #65:	Esrac posted... PowerfulSageIRL posted... Esrac posted... PowerfulSageIRL posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... PowerfulSageIRL posted... thelovefist posted... I do not support statements like, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a mtf person" trans women are women they are different from cis women, but that doesn't suddenly make them any less of a woman woman is default trans woman is its own thing no such thing as "cis woman" except as a rhetorical attempt to try to make the default not the default what He is saying "cis woman" is an illegitimate term because the term "woman" applies as default to women who are not trans. You don't need the "cis" descriptor because you don't need to distinguish the default group. You can just call them women. You do need the descriptor "trans" for transwomen because transwomen aren't really women. They're transwomen. then he needs to get his head out of his ass I don't know. I can't say I entirely disagree with him. I'm okay with trans people existing, getting their hormone therapies and surgeries to transition if it helps them live a more tolerable life, having public and private medical insurances cover at least some of the expense, etc. But at no point have I ever been able to accept a transwoman as an actual, real woman. Just does not compute to me. fortunately, trans women are women whether or not you personally believe they are <cite>PowerfulSageIRL posted [p:907681813] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PowerfulSageIRL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PowerfulSageIRL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PowerfulSageIRL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>I do not support statements like, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a mtf person"</quote> trans women are women they are different from cis women, but that doesn't suddenly make them any less of a woman</quote> woman is default trans woman is its own thing no such thing as "cis woman" except as a rhetorical attempt to try to make the default not the default</quote> what</quote> He is saying "cis woman" is an illegitimate term because the term "woman" applies as default to women who are not trans. You don't need the "cis" descriptor because you don't need to distinguish the default group. You can just call them women. You do need the descriptor "trans" for transwomen because transwomen aren't really women. They're transwomen.</quote> then he needs to get his head out of his ass</quote> I don't know. I can't say I entirely disagree with him. I'm okay with trans people existing, getting their hormone therapies and surgeries to transition if it helps them live a more tolerable life, having public and private medical insurances cover at least some of the expense, etc. But at no point have I ever been able to accept a transwoman as an actual, real woman. Just does not compute to me.</quote> fortunately, trans women are women whether or not you personally believe they are</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 08/28/18 9:48:37 AM #66:	fortunately, trans women are women whether or not you personally believe they are /eyeroll I may as well say "unfortunately, transwomen are not women whether or not you personally believe they are" for all the good either statement does. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:907681885] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><quote> fortunately, trans women are women whether or not you personally believe they are</quote> /eyeroll I may as well say "unfortunately, transwomen are not women whether or not you personally believe they are" for all the good either statement does.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thelovefist 08/28/18 9:50:15 AM #67:	shockthemonkey posted... thelovefist posted... shockthemonkey posted... Esrac posted... I understand what you mean when you say that, but I don't accept it as true. Its not debatable though. Trans women are women. Cis women are women. These are facts. I do not agree with a statement that says, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a transgendered woman". That is a very different statement than what I said. There are biological differences between two cis women. I feel that you're being disingenuous at this point and deflecting. --- "honestly the worst thing about Shaun King is how pro-cop he is" - averagejoel <cite>thelovefist posted [p:907681950] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>I understand what you mean when you say that, but I don't accept it as true.</quote> Its not debatable though. Trans women are women. Cis women are women. These are facts.</quote> I do not agree with a statement that says, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a transgendered woman".</quote> That is a very different statement than what I said. There are biological differences between two cis women.</quote> I feel that you're being disingenuous at this point and deflecting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PowerfulSageIRL 08/28/18 9:52:31 AM #69:	thelovefist posted... shockthemonkey posted... thelovefist posted... shockthemonkey posted... Esrac posted... I understand what you mean when you say that, but I don't accept it as true. Its not debatable though. Trans women are women. Cis women are women. These are facts. I do not agree with a statement that says, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a transgendered woman". That is a very different statement than what I said. There are biological differences between two cis women. I feel that you're being disingenuous at this point and deflecting. "woman" is a broader category. "cis woman" and "trans woman" are both contained in it <cite>PowerfulSageIRL posted [p:907682046] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>I understand what you mean when you say that, but I don't accept it as true.</quote> Its not debatable though. Trans women are women. Cis women are women. These are facts.</quote> I do not agree with a statement that says, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a transgendered woman".</quote> That is a very different statement than what I said. There are biological differences between two cis women.</quote> I feel that you're being disingenuous at this point and deflecting.</quote> "woman" is a broader category. "cis woman" and "trans woman" are both contained in it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 08/28/18 9:53:58 AM #70:	thelovefist posted... shockthemonkey posted... thelovefist posted... shockthemonkey posted... Esrac posted... I understand what you mean when you say that, but I don't accept it as true. Its not debatable though. Trans women are women. Cis women are women. These are facts. I do not agree with a statement that says, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a transgendered woman". That is a very different statement than what I said. There are biological differences between two cis women. I feel that you're being disingenuous at this point and deflecting. It depends. He doesn't seem to be using biological features as a significant criteria to determine what qualifies as a woman. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:907682111] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>I understand what you mean when you say that, but I don't accept it as true.</quote> Its not debatable though. Trans women are women. Cis women are women. These are facts.</quote> I do not agree with a statement that says, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a transgendered woman".</quote> That is a very different statement than what I said. There are biological differences between two cis women.</quote> I feel that you're being disingenuous at this point and deflecting.</quote> It depends. He doesn't seem to be using biological features as a significant criteria to determine what qualifies as a woman.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 08/28/18 9:55:12 AM #72:	FLUFFYGERM posted... CyricZ posted... Well, that's your own road to travel and no one else's. The vast majority of people think the way he does, so it's more that the alternative approach is the road less often traveled tbqh. The problem is that some people base their entire identity around the little bubble they occupy on the internet, and they begin to think that reality matches what they see and hear inside their unshaken echo chamber. So when they hear someone say what Esrac did, their entire identity is shaken and they can't even function except to want to shout him down. This is one of the Top 5 least self-aware posts Proudclad has ever made. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:907682172] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote>Well, that's your own road to travel and no one else's. </quote> The vast majority of people think the way he does, so it's more that the alternative approach is the road less often traveled tbqh. The problem is that some people base their entire identity around the little bubble they occupy on the internet, and they begin to think that reality matches what they see and hear inside their unshaken echo chamber. So when they hear someone say what Esrac did, their entire identity is shaken and they can't even function except to want to shout him down.</quote> This is one of the Top 5 least self-aware posts Proudclad has ever made.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerfulSageIRL 08/28/18 9:55:15 AM #73:	Esrac posted... thelovefist posted... shockthemonkey posted... thelovefist posted... shockthemonkey posted... Esrac posted... I understand what you mean when you say that, but I don't accept it as true. Its not debatable though. Trans women are women. Cis women are women. These are facts. I do not agree with a statement that says, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a transgendered woman". That is a very different statement than what I said. There are biological differences between two cis women. I feel that you're being disingenuous at this point and deflecting. It depends. He doesn't seem to be using biological features as a significant criteria to determine what qualifies as a woman. there are biological features other than chromosomes and sex organs <cite>PowerfulSageIRL posted [p:907682177] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>I understand what you mean when you say that, but I don't accept it as true.</quote> Its not debatable though. Trans women are women. Cis women are women. These are facts.</quote> I do not agree with a statement that says, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a transgendered woman".</quote> That is a very different statement than what I said. There are biological differences between two cis women.</quote> I feel that you're being disingenuous at this point and deflecting.</quote> It depends. He doesn't seem to be using biological features as a significant criteria to determine what qualifies as a woman.</quote> there are biological features other than chromosomes and sex organs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deedice 08/28/18 9:56:34 AM #74:	PowerfulSageIRL posted... thelovefist posted... I do not support statements like, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a mtf person" trans women are women they are different from cis women, but that doesn't suddenly make them any less of a woman How does this make sense? --- Drake the type of dude to gather the Dragon Balls to wish that his ex finds a good man. - KMNL <cite>Deedice posted [p:907682224] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>PowerfulSageIRL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>I do not support statements like, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a mtf person"</quote> trans women are women they are different from cis women, but that doesn't suddenly make them any less of a woman</quote> How does this make sense?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 08/28/18 9:57:36 AM #75:	shockthemonkey posted... Esrac posted... CyricZ posted... Esrac posted... But at no point have I ever been able to accept a transwoman as an actual, real woman. Just does not compute to me. Well, that's your own road to travel and no one else's. I just hope it doesn't lead to improper behavior if you get "tricked" at some point by a transwoman who, to you, looks as "real" as you have defined, and then you learn later that she's trans. Shut the fuck up. I don't need your bullshit insinuations. shockthemonkey posted... Esrac posted... I understand what you mean when you say that, but I don't accept it as true. Its not debatable though. Trans women are women. Cis women are women. These are facts. No. I don't buy that as true. Women are women and transwomen are transwomen. But transwomen are not actually women. Regardless, I don't think either of us would change each other's kind on it even if we tries to debate it. Youre factually wrong. Get over it. What do you even gain from this? No. You are wrong. Why do I need to gain something to hold this position? I don't lose or gain anything as far as I can tell. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:907682275] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>But at no point have I ever been able to accept a transwoman as an actual, real woman. Just does not compute to me.</quote> Well, that's your own road to travel and no one else's. I just hope it doesn't lead to improper behavior if you get "tricked" at some point by a transwoman who, to you, looks as "real" as you have defined, and then you learn later that she's trans.</quote> Shut the fuck up. I don't need your bullshit insinuations. <cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>I understand what you mean when you say that, but I don't accept it as true.</quote> Its not debatable though. Trans women are women. Cis women are women. These are facts.</quote> No. I don't buy that as true. Women are women and transwomen are transwomen. But transwomen are not actually women. Regardless, I don't think either of us would change each other's kind on it even if we tries to debate it.</quote> Youre factually wrong. Get over it. What do you even gain from this?</quote> No. You are wrong. Why do I need to gain something to hold this position? I don't lose or gain anything as far as I can tell.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thelovefist 08/28/18 10:01:00 AM #77:	thelovefist posted... @Bio1590 posted... thelovefist posted... Bio1590 posted... thelovefist posted... Can someone explain, in layperson terms, what the objective reasons are for why this study is flawed and thus worthy of removal? No one here is arguing it SHOULD have been removed but multiple people have made posts outlining issues with the "study". Ok fair enough. Can someone explain, in layperson terms, what the objective reasons are for why this study is flawed? ...I mean that's literally the same thing. Look we get you don't like trans people. I don't dislike trans people.... I support publicly funded gender reassignment surgeries. I support the ending of any discriminatory practices excluding transgendered people from anything. I do not support statements like, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a mtf person" All I am asking for are objective reasons for why this is study is flawed so I can better understand the issue at hand. Are you going to respond to this @Bio1590 and stop with the bullshit narrative that I 'don't like trans people'.? --- "honestly the worst thing about Shaun King is how pro-cop he is" - averagejoel <cite>thelovefist posted [p:907682415] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>Can someone explain, in layperson terms, what the objective reasons are for why this study is flawed and thus worthy of removal?</quote> No one here is arguing it SHOULD have been removed but multiple people have made posts outlining issues with the "study".</quote> Ok fair enough. Can someone explain, in layperson terms, what the objective reasons are for why this study is flawed?</quote> ...I mean that's literally the same thing. Look we get you don't like trans people.</quote> I don't dislike trans people.... I support publicly funded gender reassignment surgeries. I support the ending of any discriminatory practices excluding transgendered people from anything. I do not support statements like, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a mtf person" All I am asking for are objective reasons for why this is study is flawed so I can better understand the issue at hand.</quote> Are you going to respond to this @Bio1590 and stop with the bullshit narrative that I 'don't like trans people'.?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 08/28/18 10:03:02 AM #78:	shockthemonkey posted... PowerfulSageIRL posted... thelovefist posted... shockthemonkey posted... thelovefist posted... shockthemonkey posted... Esrac posted... I understand what you mean when you say that, but I don't accept it as true. Its not debatable though. Trans women are women. Cis women are women. These are facts. I do not agree with a statement that says, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a transgendered woman". That is a very different statement than what I said. There are biological differences between two cis women. I feel that you're being disingenuous at this point and deflecting. "woman" is a broader category. "cis woman" and "trans woman" are both contained in it All these people arguing against it understand what is factually correct but it makes them feel icky and confused and they dont like those feelings so they refuse to accept it. Don't be a dipshit. I don't feel any confusion about it. And I think I understand you position. I just dont accept it as factually correct. I don't see "woman" as a broad category in which cis and transwomen are equal subcategories. I see women and transwomen as separate categories entirely. Why do you feel you have to suggest there is some latent confusion in people who don't agree with you about this? --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:907682508] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PowerfulSageIRL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>I understand what you mean when you say that, but I don't accept it as true.</quote> Its not debatable though. Trans women are women. Cis women are women. These are facts.</quote> I do not agree with a statement that says, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a transgendered woman".</quote> That is a very different statement than what I said. There are biological differences between two cis women.</quote> I feel that you're being disingenuous at this point and deflecting.</quote> "woman" is a broader category. "cis woman" and "trans woman" are both contained in it</quote> All these people arguing against it understand what is factually correct but it makes them feel icky and confused and they dont like those feelings so they refuse to accept it.</quote> Don't be a dipshit. I don't feel any confusion about it. And I think I understand you position. I just dont accept it as factually correct. I don't see "woman" as a broad category in which cis and transwomen are equal subcategories. I see women and transwomen as separate categories entirely. Why do you feel you have to suggest there is some latent confusion in people who don't agree with you about this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MangaFan462 08/28/18 10:03:14 AM #79:	Transgenders! People in disguise! --- https://i.redd.it/zwfbqetu2b8y.jpg / https://cdn.awwni.me/120ze.png / https://cdn.awwni.me/120w7.jpg https://imgur.com/ft0Sl2D /// MangaFan462 <cite>MangaFan462 posted [p:907682517] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote>Transgenders! People in disguise!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PowerfulSageIRL 08/28/18 10:08:51 AM #81:	Deedice posted... PowerfulSageIRL posted... thelovefist posted... I do not support statements like, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a mtf person" trans women are women they are different from cis women, but that doesn't suddenly make them any less of a woman How does this make sense? a BLT is a sandwich it is different from a grilled cheese sandwich, but that doesn't make it any less of a sandwich <cite>PowerfulSageIRL posted [p:907682740] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>Deedice posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PowerfulSageIRL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>I do not support statements like, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a mtf person"</quote> trans women are women they are different from cis women, but that doesn't suddenly make them any less of a woman</quote> How does this make sense?</quote> a BLT is a sandwich it is different from a grilled cheese sandwich, but that doesn't make it any less of a sandwich</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 08/28/18 10:10:07 AM #82:	thelovefist posted... thelovefist posted... @Bio1590 posted... thelovefist posted... Bio1590 posted... thelovefist posted... Can someone explain, in layperson terms, what the objective reasons are for why this study is flawed and thus worthy of removal? No one here is arguing it SHOULD have been removed but multiple people have made posts outlining issues with the "study". Ok fair enough. Can someone explain, in layperson terms, what the objective reasons are for why this study is flawed? ...I mean that's literally the same thing. Look we get you don't like trans people. I don't dislike trans people.... I support publicly funded gender reassignment surgeries. I support the ending of any discriminatory practices excluding transgendered people from anything. I do not support statements like, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a mtf person" All I am asking for are objective reasons for why this is study is flawed so I can better understand the issue at hand. Are you going to respond to this @Bio1590 and stop with the bullshit narrative that I 'don't like trans people'.? Are you going to stop complaining about the supposed "Transgender Defense Force"? --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:907682808] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>Can someone explain, in layperson terms, what the objective reasons are for why this study is flawed and thus worthy of removal?</quote> No one here is arguing it SHOULD have been removed but multiple people have made posts outlining issues with the "study".</quote> Ok fair enough. Can someone explain, in layperson terms, what the objective reasons are for why this study is flawed?</quote> ...I mean that's literally the same thing. Look we get you don't like trans people.</quote> I don't dislike trans people.... I support publicly funded gender reassignment surgeries. I support the ending of any discriminatory practices excluding transgendered people from anything. I do not support statements like, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a mtf person" All I am asking for are objective reasons for why this is study is flawed so I can better understand the issue at hand.</quote> Are you going to respond to this @Bio1590 and stop with the bullshit narrative that I 'don't like trans people'.?</quote> Are you going to stop complaining about the supposed "Transgender Defense Force"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerfulSageIRL 08/28/18 10:10:17 AM #83:	Esrac posted... I don't see "woman" as a broad category in which cis and transwomen are equal subcategories. I see women and transwomen as separate categories entirely. they are not separate categories <cite>PowerfulSageIRL posted [p:907682817] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>I don't see "woman" as a broad category in which cis and transwomen are equal subcategories. I see women and transwomen as separate categories entirely. </quote> they are not separate categories</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 08/28/18 10:11:38 AM #84:	PowerfulSageIRL posted... Esrac posted... I don't see "woman" as a broad category in which cis and transwomen are equal subcategories. I see women and transwomen as separate categories entirely. they are not separate categories yeah they are --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:907682879] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>PowerfulSageIRL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>I don't see "woman" as a broad category in which cis and transwomen are equal subcategories. I see women and transwomen as separate categories entirely. </quote> they are not separate categories</quote> yeah they are</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thelovefist 08/28/18 10:12:21 AM #85:	Bio1590 posted... thelovefist posted... thelovefist posted... @Bio1590 posted... thelovefist posted... Bio1590 posted... thelovefist posted... Can someone explain, in layperson terms, what the objective reasons are for why this study is flawed and thus worthy of removal? No one here is arguing it SHOULD have been removed but multiple people have made posts outlining issues with the "study". Ok fair enough. Can someone explain, in layperson terms, what the objective reasons are for why this study is flawed? ...I mean that's literally the same thing. Look we get you don't like trans people. I don't dislike trans people.... I support publicly funded gender reassignment surgeries. I support the ending of any discriminatory practices excluding transgendered people from anything. I do not support statements like, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a mtf person" All I am asking for are objective reasons for why this is study is flawed so I can better understand the issue at hand. Are you going to respond to this @Bio1590 and stop with the bullshit narrative that I 'don't like trans people'.? Are you going to stop complaining about the supposed "Transgender Defense Force"? Yes and I have for some time now. That was an unfortunate pejorative that I used for a period of time and I have since realized that it was not helping anything. I am sorry for doing so and regret my past usage of that term. --- "honestly the worst thing about Shaun King is how pro-cop he is" - averagejoel <cite>thelovefist posted [p:907682912] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>Can someone explain, in layperson terms, what the objective reasons are for why this study is flawed and thus worthy of removal?</quote> No one here is arguing it SHOULD have been removed but multiple people have made posts outlining issues with the "study".</quote> Ok fair enough. Can someone explain, in layperson terms, what the objective reasons are for why this study is flawed?</quote> ...I mean that's literally the same thing. Look we get you don't like trans people.</quote> I don't dislike trans people.... I support publicly funded gender reassignment surgeries. I support the ending of any discriminatory practices excluding transgendered people from anything. I do not support statements like, "there are no biological differences between a woman and a mtf person" All I am asking for are objective reasons for why this is study is flawed so I can better understand the issue at hand.</quote> Are you going to respond to this @Bio1590 and stop with the bullshit narrative that I 'don't like trans people'.?</quote> Are you going to stop complaining about the supposed "Transgender Defense Force"?</quote> Yes and I have for some time now. That was an unfortunate pejorative that I used for a period of time and I have since realized that it was not helping anything. I am sorry for doing so and regret my past usage of that term.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MangaFan462 08/28/18 10:20:28 AM #86:	The SJWs will say you hate X group of you dont give them constant praise. --- https://i.redd.it/zwfbqetu2b8y.jpg / https://cdn.awwni.me/120ze.png / https://cdn.awwni.me/120w7.jpg https://imgur.com/ft0Sl2D /// MangaFan462 <cite>MangaFan462 posted [p:907683269] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote>The SJWs will say you hate X group of you dont give them constant praise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 08/28/18 10:22:48 AM #87:	shockthemonkey posted... Esrac posted... Don't be a dipshit. I don't feel any confusion about it. And I think I understand you position. I just dont accept it as factually correct. I don't see "woman" as a broad category in which cis and transwomen are equal subcategories. I see women and transwomen as separate categories entirely. Why do you feel you have to suggest there is some latent confusion in people who don't agree with you about this? Dont be a dipshit says the dude who enjoys being blatantly wrong because his feelings say trans women dont count as women. You seem to be having this weird reaction to disagreement on this. I've at least tried to be civil, but you've gotten increasingly belligerent. Trying to route out what I "gain" from my position, insinuating it's because of icky feelings and confusion, etc. This isn't a matter of what I enjoy and I don't think it's a matter of feelings. It's not as though I think of transwomen as particularly gross or "icky" as you said. But nothing I've heard or read has ever convinced me to count them as women, so I count them as transwomen. Apparently we have two very different and perhaps irreconcilable viewpoints on what qualifies as a woman (I assume we would have the same disagreement on men and transmen). And since we seem to just be talking past each other, I don't think there is much point in continuing this conversation. Otherwise, have a good morning. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:907683394] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>Don't be a dipshit. I don't feel any confusion about it. And I think I understand you position. I just dont accept it as factually correct. I don't see "woman" as a broad category in which cis and transwomen are equal subcategories. I see women and transwomen as separate categories entirely. Why do you feel you have to suggest there is some latent confusion in people who don't agree with you about this?</quote> Dont be a dipshit says the dude who enjoys being blatantly wrong because his feelings say trans women dont count as women.</quote> You seem to be having this weird reaction to disagreement on this. I've at least tried to be civil, but you've gotten increasingly belligerent. Trying to route out what I "gain" from my position, insinuating it's because of icky feelings and confusion, etc. This isn't a matter of what I enjoy and I don't think it's a matter of feelings. It's not as though I think of transwomen as particularly gross or "icky" as you said. But nothing I've heard or read has ever convinced me to count them as women, so I count them as transwomen. Apparently we have two very different and perhaps irreconcilable viewpoints on what qualifies as a woman (I assume we would have the same disagreement on men and transmen). And since we seem to just be talking past each other, I don't think there is much point in continuing this conversation. Otherwise, have a good morning.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerfulSageIRL 08/28/18 10:23:40 AM #88:	FLUFFYGERM posted... PowerfulSageIRL posted... Esrac posted... I don't see "woman" as a broad category in which cis and transwomen are equal subcategories. I see women and transwomen as separate categories entirely. they are not separate categories yeah they are "trans" and "cis" are adjectives women with these descriptors both fall into the larger category "women", just as "tall" and "short" women; "thin" and "fat" women; and "black" and "white" women do <cite>PowerfulSageIRL posted [p:907683440] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PowerfulSageIRL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>I don't see "woman" as a broad category in which cis and transwomen are equal subcategories. I see women and transwomen as separate categories entirely. </quote> they are not separate categories</quote> yeah they are</quote> "trans" and "cis" are adjectives women with these descriptors both fall into the larger category "women", just as "tall" and "short" women; "thin" and "fat" women; and "black" and "white" women do</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperMedz3 08/28/18 10:25:48 AM #89:	Just like the NAZIS --- Fallout 4 <cite>SuperMedz3 posted [p:907683544] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote>Just like the NAZIS</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 08/28/18 10:30:00 AM #90:	Isn't it anti transgendered people that act like Gender Dysphoria doesn't exist? This doesn't make sense to me. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:907683738] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote>Isn't it anti transgendered people that act like Gender Dysphoria doesn't exist? This doesn't make sense to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 08/28/18 10:31:23 AM #91:	MangaFan462 posted... The SJWs will say you hate X group of you dont give them constant praise. Steamed SJWs are not real. You don't know a real SJW so you invented your own version of them. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:907683801] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>MangaFan462 posted...</cite> <quote>The SJWs will say you hate X group of you dont give them constant praise.</quote> Steamed SJWs are not real. You don't know a real SJW so you invented your own version of them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 08/28/18 10:31:33 AM #92:	Esrac posted... CyricZ posted... Esrac posted... But at no point have I ever been able to accept a transwoman as an actual, real woman. Just does not compute to me. Well, that's your own road to travel and no one else's. I just hope it doesn't lead to improper behavior if you get "tricked" at some point by a transwoman who, to you, looks as "real" as you have defined, and then you learn later that she's trans. Shut the fuck up. I don't need your bullshit insinuations. I'm 100% serious and wow at that response. Any well-adjusted person would respond with an offhand "I'll manage" or "I'll try to be respectful" or hell, even a pithy "Oh I'll be able to tell". The fact that you respond with open hostility has me super worried. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:907683814] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>But at no point have I ever been able to accept a transwoman as an actual, real woman. Just does not compute to me.</quote> Well, that's your own road to travel and no one else's. I just hope it doesn't lead to improper behavior if you get "tricked" at some point by a transwoman who, to you, looks as "real" as you have defined, and then you learn later that she's trans.</quote> Shut the fuck up. I don't need your bullshit insinuations.</quote> I'm 100% serious and wow at that response. Any well-adjusted person would respond with an offhand "I'll manage" or "I'll try to be respectful" or hell, even a pithy "Oh I'll be able to tell". The fact that you respond with open hostility has me super worried.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 08/28/18 10:38:48 AM #93:	CyricZ posted... Esrac posted... CyricZ posted... Esrac posted... But at no point have I ever been able to accept a transwoman as an actual, real woman. Just does not compute to me. Well, that's your own road to travel and no one else's. I just hope it doesn't lead to improper behavior if you get "tricked" at some point by a transwoman who, to you, looks as "real" as you have defined, and then you learn later that she's trans. Shut the fuck up. I don't need your bullshit insinuations. I'm 100% serious and wow at that response. Any well-adjusted person would respond with an offhand "I'll manage" or "I'll try to be respectful" or hell, even a pithy "Oh I'll be able to tell". The fact that you respond with open hostility has me super worried. dude stfu lmao --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:907684139] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>But at no point have I ever been able to accept a transwoman as an actual, real woman. Just does not compute to me.</quote> Well, that's your own road to travel and no one else's. I just hope it doesn't lead to improper behavior if you get "tricked" at some point by a transwoman who, to you, looks as "real" as you have defined, and then you learn later that she's trans.</quote> Shut the fuck up. I don't need your bullshit insinuations.</quote> I'm 100% serious and wow at that response. Any well-adjusted person would respond with an offhand "I'll manage" or "I'll try to be respectful" or hell, even a pithy "Oh I'll be able to tell". The fact that you respond with open hostility has me super worried.</quote> dude stfu lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 08/28/18 10:39:44 AM #94:	https://medium.com/@juliaserano/everything-you-need-to-know-about-rapid-onset-gender-dysphoria-1940b8afdeba Zinnia Jones from Gender Analysis has written two excellent articles chronicling the origins of the phrase Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria. Basically, it originated in July 2016 on three blogs (4thwavenow.com, Transgendertrend.com, and YouthTransCriticalProfessionals.org) that have a history of promoting anti-transgender propaganda. Whats even more troubling is how this sample set of parents was selected: Recruitment information with a link to the survey was placed on three websites where parents and professionals had been observed to describe rapid onset of gender dysphoria (4thwavenow, transgender trend, and youthtranscriticalprofessionals). who're the activists, again? --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Act now! Venchmen are standing by for your orders! <cite>Medussa posted [p:907684187] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote>https://medium.com/@juliaserano/everything-you-need-to-know-about-rapid-onset-gender-dysphoria-1940b8afdeba <quote>Zinnia Jones from Gender Analysis has written two excellent articles chronicling the origins of the phrase Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria. Basically, it originated in July 2016 on three blogs (4thwavenow.com, Transgendertrend.com, and YouthTransCriticalProfessionals.org) that have a history of promoting anti-transgender propaganda.</quote> <quote>Whats even more troubling is how this sample set of parents was selected: Recruitment information with a link to the survey was placed on three websites where parents and professionals had been observed to describe rapid onset of gender dysphoria (4thwavenow, transgender trend, and youthtranscriticalprofessionals).</quote> who're the activists, again?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 08/28/18 10:44:09 AM #95:	Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria is a thing that exists? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:907684379] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote>Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria is a thing that exists?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 08/28/18 10:48:08 AM #96:	FLUFFYGERM posted... dude stfu lmao ha ha yes let's lol while another person responds with open hostility towards the insinuation that he might meet a transgender person some day and not be able to tell. All I caution against is "improper behavior". That can range from open revulsion, to bullying, to assault, to murder. When I see such open hostility from a person over the course of several posts on this topic, that's a fucking warning sign. And if he wants to tell me that he's adult enough to not respond improperly, he can very well do that. Until then, I confess I remain a bit shook. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:907684563] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>dude stfu lmao </quote> ha ha yes let's lol while another person responds with open hostility towards the insinuation that he might meet a transgender person some day and not be able to tell. All I caution against is "improper behavior". That can range from open revulsion, to bullying, to assault, to murder. When I see such open hostility from a person over the course of several posts on this topic, that's a fucking warning sign. And if he wants to tell me that he's adult enough to not respond improperly, he can very well do that. Until then, I confess I remain a bit shook.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 08/28/18 10:53:27 AM #97:	CyricZ posted... Esrac posted... CyricZ posted... Esrac posted... But at no point have I ever been able to accept a transwoman as an actual, real woman. Just does not compute to me. Well, that's your own road to travel and no one else's. I just hope it doesn't lead to improper behavior if you get "tricked" at some point by a transwoman who, to you, looks as "real" as you have defined, and then you learn later that she's trans. Shut the fuck up. I don't need your bullshit insinuations. I'm 100% serious and wow at that response. Any well-adjusted person would respond with an offhand "I'll manage" or "I'll try to be respectful" or hell, even a pithy "Oh I'll be able to tell". The fact that you respond with open hostility has me super worried. You implied that he would hurt a transwoman simply because he doesn't agree that ciswomen and transwomen should be counted together. Now you have the gall to be surprised he was offended by that? <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:907684808] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote>But at no point have I ever been able to accept a transwoman as an actual, real woman. Just does not compute to me.</quote> Well, that's your own road to travel and no one else's. I just hope it doesn't lead to improper behavior if you get "tricked" at some point by a transwoman who, to you, looks as "real" as you have defined, and then you learn later that she's trans.</quote> Shut the fuck up. I don't need your bullshit insinuations.</quote> I'm 100% serious and wow at that response. Any well-adjusted person would respond with an offhand "I'll manage" or "I'll try to be respectful" or hell, even a pithy "Oh I'll be able to tell". The fact that you respond with open hostility has me super worried.</quote> You implied that he would hurt a transwoman simply because he doesn't agree that ciswomen and transwomen should be counted together. Now you have the gall to be surprised he was offended by that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sheep007 08/28/18 10:57:14 AM #98:	Questionmarktarius posted... Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria is a thing that exists? As far as I'm aware, it's basically a way to describe the so called "special snowflake" version of gender dysphoria, where it comes about mainly because of environmental factors or the pressure of others. It's a complex issue, because research has to be done to ensure that we know how it happens and how to treat it. However, that has to be balanced by not allowing the paper to get removed due to outrage over it from certain groups, while not causing unfair treatment of trans people through giving reason to treat them as attention seekers. --- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x9gN2hdybFY <cite>Sheep007 posted [p:907684964] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria is a thing that exists?</quote> As far as I'm aware, it's basically a way to describe the so called "special snowflake" version of gender dysphoria, where it comes about mainly because of environmental factors or the pressure of others. It's a complex issue, because research has to be done to ensure that we know how it happens and how to treat it. However, that has to be balanced by not allowing the paper to get removed due to outrage over it from certain groups, while not causing unfair treatment of trans people through giving reason to treat them as attention seekers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 08/28/18 10:57:38 AM #99:	Dragonblade01 posted... You implied that he would hurt a transwoman simply because he doesn't agree that ciswomen and transwomen should be counted together. Now you have the gall to be surprised he was offended by that? I say "improper behavior" and everyone jumps to murder right away. Clearly it's a soft fucking spot for more than one person ITT. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:907684987] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>You implied that he would hurt a transwoman simply because he doesn't agree that ciswomen and transwomen should be counted together. Now you have the gall to be surprised he was offended by that?</quote> I say "improper behavior" and everyone jumps to murder right away. Clearly it's a soft fucking spot for more than one person ITT.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 08/28/18 10:59:16 AM #100:	Sheep007 posted... However, that has to be balanced by not allowing the paper to get removed due to outrage over it from certain groups do you want the "Vaccines cause autism" study to be preserved, too? Because that's what this "study" is. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Act now! Venchmen are standing by for your orders! <cite>Medussa posted [p:907685083] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sheep007 posted...</cite> <quote>However, that has to be balanced by not allowing the paper to get removed due to outrage over it from certain groups</quote> do you want the "Vaccines cause autism" study to be preserved, too? Because that's what this "study" is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thelovefist 08/28/18 10:59:46 AM #101:	CyricZ posted... Dragonblade01 posted... You implied that he would hurt a transwoman simply because he doesn't agree that ciswomen and transwomen should be counted together. Now you have the gall to be surprised he was offended by that? I say "improper behavior" and everyone jumps to murder right away. Clearly it's a soft fucking spot for more than one person ITT. Stop with your bad bait. --- "honestly the worst thing about Shaun King is how pro-cop he is" - averagejoel <cite>thelovefist posted [p:907685102] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>You implied that he would hurt a transwoman simply because he doesn't agree that ciswomen and transwomen should be counted together. Now you have the gall to be surprised he was offended by that?</quote> I say "improper behavior" and everyone jumps to murder right away. Clearly it's a soft fucking spot for more than one person ITT.</quote> Stop with your bad bait.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 08/28/18 11:01:47 AM #102:	Medussa posted... do you want the "Vaccines cause autism" study to be preserved, too? Because that's what this "study" is. It has been preserved, and it's been roundly debunked and mocked. It still exists, though. The guy who did it will never be able to walk away from it. thelovefist posted... Stop with your bad bait. Yeah, but they're biting so good. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:907685223] in Transgende... [t:76943782]...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>do you want the "Vaccines cause autism" study to be preserved, too? Because that's what this "study" is. </quote> It has been preserved, and it's been roundly debunked and mocked. It still exists, though. The guy who did it will never be able to walk away from it. <cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>Stop with your bad bait.</quote> Yeah, but they're biting so good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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