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YoshitoKikuchi 09/02/18 11:07:59 AM #1: |
How did particular very first features emerge, like the first eyeball?
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treewojima 09/02/18 11:11:37 AM #3: |
my creationist friend likes to make the "irreducible complexity" argument. it gets really old after a while
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PoopPotato 09/02/18 11:14:58 AM #4: |
There is a parasite that can only reproduce inside of a cats intestines, but in order to get there, it has to first hijack a rat and get purposely eaten by the cat.
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iPhone_7 09/02/18 11:17:42 AM #6: |
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YoshitoKikuchi 09/02/18 11:17:52 AM #7: |
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an eyeball didn't just show up out of nowhere. it began as a single cell that could respond to light stimulus. That doesn't answer how it came to take the shape and form it currently has. Or, how did sight develop in the first place? --- Dont be ridiculous. I think FIVE evil steps ahead https://imgur.com/YQpeyD3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DK9292 09/02/18 11:18:41 AM #8: |
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DirkDiggles 09/02/18 11:18:52 AM #9: |
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iPhone_7 09/02/18 11:23:38 AM #11: |
Not an explanation but interesting image concerning the different eyes of some water species. From flat receptors to spherical.
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YoshitoKikuchi 09/02/18 12:26:29 PM #12: |
iPhone_7 posted...
Not an explanation but interesting image concerning the different eyes of some water species. From flat receptors to spherical. Interesting --- Dont be ridiculous. I think FIVE evil steps ahead https://imgur.com/YQpeyD3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 09/02/18 12:31:29 PM #13: |
How some people don't "believe" in it
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PokemonExpert44 09/02/18 12:32:48 PM #14: |
evolution isn't true
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OwlRammer 09/02/18 12:35:13 PM #15: |
why hasn't that monkey evolved into a human yet?
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Herugrim 09/02/18 12:40:30 PM #16: |
If humans evolved from Apes, then why are Apes still Apes?
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Kobe8Bryant24 09/02/18 12:43:07 PM #17: |
Herugrim posted...
If humans evolved from Apes, then why are Apes still Apes? Well, the monkeys that they theorize about don't even exist anymore. I'm not sure why popular culture takes to thinking it's the monkeys we see today. That would be insane if someone actually believed that. --- I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinksLiege 09/02/18 12:45:56 PM #19: |
treewojima posted...
my creationist friend likes to make the "irreducible complexity" argument. it gets really old after a while "Irreducibly complex" is my favorite argument because it's literally someone claiming their ignorance is proof that it isn't true. "I don't know it, so nobody can know it" is a lot easier to mock. --- This is LinksLiege's signature. It is fantastic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PokemonExpert44 09/02/18 12:47:41 PM #20: |
LinksLiege posted...
treewojima posted...my creationist friend likes to make the "irreducible complexity" argument. it gets really old after a while Irreducible complexity is still a valid type of argument. --- I might just 6-0 you in Pokemon. Watch out for my teams. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I Like Toast 09/02/18 12:48:30 PM #21: |
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If life began with a single cell then you do though --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Romes187 09/02/18 12:50:25 PM #22: |
Just remember
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treewojima 09/02/18 12:54:34 PM #23: |
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LinksLiege posted...treewojima posted... it's just not an especially good one ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinksLiege 09/02/18 12:58:57 PM #25: |
PokemonExpert44 posted...
Irreducible complexity is still a valid type of argument. Not when it comes from someone who obviously has made zero effort to understand what they're arguing against. At that point it's just shorthand for "Welp - I don't get it, so it's bullshit." --- This is LinksLiege's signature. It is fantastic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YoshitoKikuchi 09/02/18 2:07:59 PM #28: |
How did the last common ancestor branch off into so many species?
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Kobe8Bryant24 09/02/18 2:11:14 PM #29: |
YoshitoKikuchi posted...
How did the last common ancestor branch off into so many species? It was 13 million years ago and most of the evidence is sparse. It's going to be hard to confirm anything more than what was figured out from the existing remains. --- I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinksLiege 09/02/18 2:21:38 PM #31: |
dolomedes posted...
Goats posted...How something so beautiful can come about by purely random chance cubone. Yeah, characterizing it as random chance is absurd. Not to mention the fact that we evolved to have that ability to perceive things as beautiful. --- This is LinksLiege's signature. It is fantastic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YoshitoKikuchi 09/02/18 7:16:19 PM #32: |
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Dragonblade01 09/02/18 7:20:10 PM #33: |
Taxonomy is all about us trying to give names to what are essentially just new versions of the same, original creature.
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YoshitoKikuchi 09/03/18 10:59:00 AM #35: |
RoadsterUFO posted...
Its a mystery and full of change that no one sees. --- Dont be ridiculous. I think FIVE evil steps ahead https://imgur.com/YQpeyD3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Flockaveli 09/03/18 10:59:25 AM #36: |
Why my meat small.
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bknight 09/03/18 11:01:12 AM #37: |
If we evolved from apes, how come there are still apes around?
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Mareen 09/03/18 11:02:06 AM #38: |
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If we evolved from apes, how come there are still apes around? We didn't evolve from the current apes but from a common ancestor. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bknight 09/03/18 11:07:58 AM #39: |
Mareen posted...
bknight posted...If we evolved from apes, how come there are still apes around? So can we force common apes to evolve if we like created a drug to make them smarter, since they already share enough of our DNA? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cheese_Crackers 09/03/18 11:18:21 AM #40: |
YoshitoKikuchi posted...
How did particular very first features emerge, like the first eyeball? There are functional intermediates between creatures with no sight and human eyes or bird eyes (with the most advanced sight). There are sea creatures with extremely rudimentary eyes that allow them to see (at least a little bit) in the minimal light environments that exist in the ocean. Besides the origin of life itself, which isn't even covered by evolution, the hardest part for me to wrap my head around is the time scale. Life seems so unchanging in our experience of 80 years, but since evolution usually takes place across millions of years, it feels impossible to visualize. --- Though the fear of death is a common one, the fear of life is a more rational one. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RoboLaserGandhi 09/03/18 11:53:27 AM #41: |
YoshitoKikuchi posted...
dolomedes posted...an eyeball didn't just show up out of nowhere. it began as a single cell that could respond to light stimulus. Well it happened over a very very long time with gradual improvements. With something so important as sight (and basic senses in general), the better an individual can orient themselves to the world, which is a significant advantage that is certain to be passed down in animals that rely on it. The first "eyes" were little bumps on the surface of an organism's head that simply reacted to light. These organisms couldn't really "see" but more like they were able to sense very vague shadows. Over time, eventually there arose organisms with greater visual definition with more clumps of cells. Then some had a bulb of translucent skin over those cells, focusing the light a little better. Eventually, more and more improvements kept adding up, until it reached a high level of complexity. Also remember, the eye didn't have to evolve independently in every single creature that has them today. For example, all vertebrates (fish, amphibians, reptiles, birds, mammals) come from a common ancestor, who would have developed the groundwork for the basic eye blueprint we all share. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YoshitoKikuchi 09/03/18 12:11:53 PM #42: |
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
YoshitoKikuchi posted...dolomedes posted...an eyeball didn't just show up out of nowhere. it began as a single cell that could respond to light stimulus. Thanks. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_the_eye Looked it up as well, very fascinating read. --- Dont be ridiculous. I think FIVE evil steps ahead https://imgur.com/YQpeyD3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheOlJollyRoger 09/03/18 12:16:12 PM #43: |
I dont get why evolution kicked out Randy Orton for winning the world title that was just dumb
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TheOlJollyRoger 09/03/18 12:18:09 PM #44: |
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rikasa 09/03/18 12:21:05 PM #45: |
Humans evolved into obese pleasure sponges in like 100 years so imagine what happens in billions of years
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PokemonExpert44 09/03/18 12:31:11 PM #46: |
Evolution = Dumb
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YoshitoKikuchi 09/03/18 2:58:06 PM #47: |
PokemonExpert44 posted...
Evolution = Dumb Why? --- Dont be ridiculous. I think FIVE evil steps ahead https://imgur.com/YQpeyD3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Herugrim 09/03/18 6:41:23 PM #48: |
dolomedes posted...
Herugrim posted...If humans evolved from Apes, then why are Apes still Apes? So humans can mate with apes then? I mean, if we're the same species, shouldn't that be a thing? Cause I'm pretty sure Humans and Apes are Anthropoids, not that Humans are Apes. --- John Watson: "Well it isn't obvious to me." Sherlock Holmes: "The world is full of obvious things that nobody notices." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RoboLaserGandhi 09/03/18 6:43:00 PM #49: |
Herugrim posted...
dolomedes posted...Herugrim posted...If humans evolved from Apes, then why are Apes still Apes? Ape isn't a species ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kobe8Bryant24 09/03/18 6:44:16 PM #50: |
No, we cannot mate with them. Liken the common ancestor to a tree with one branch being us and other branches being other mammals, if that helps. There's no basis for a millions-year old relation being strong enough for that level of compatibility today. Do remember that other types of branched humans, like Neanderthals, are extinct, as well.
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