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UnfairRepresent
09/09/18 5:22:14 AM
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After a controversial call by the U.S. Open chair umpire contributed to her defeat in Saturday's women's title match, Serena Williams asserted that tennis has different standards for men and women.

Williams, 36, on Saturday suffered a swift 6-2, 6-4 loss to Naomi Osaka, who became the tournament's first female Japanese champion.

It happened after Williams, a 23-time Grand Slam singles champion, appeared to be thrown off her game -- after being penalized in the second set because of three separate game violations. Williams got the first violation from umpire Carlos Ramos, who ruled that Williams received coaching earlier in the set; she told him she'd "rather lose" than cheat.

I didnt get coaching, Williams said multiple times. I dont cheat! I didnt get coaching. How can you say that? You owe me an apology. I have never cheated in my life! She was given a second violation for smashing her racquet, and again yelled at the chair umpire who had given her the first warning.

You are attacking my character, she continued. You will never ever ever be on another court of mine as long as you live. Her third violation came after she called the umpire a thief, leading to the automatic loss of a game. You stole a point from me; youre a thief, too, she insisted.

The umpire instantly awarded a game to Osaka, citing a verbal abuse call against Williams.

It was at this point that Williams sought out the referee and argued that the harsh call had been made because of her gender.

Do you know how many other men do things that are much worse than that? This is not fair. Theres a lot of men out here that have said a lot of things, and because they are men, that doesnt happen to them, she said to the referee.

There are men out here that do a lot worse but because Im a woman, because Im a woman youre going to take this away from me? That is not right.

Williams stood by her performance at the post-match news conference, saying: Ive seen other men call other umpires several things and Im here fighting for womens rights and for womens equality.

Later Saturday, Williams received some support in the form of tweets from tennis legend Billie Jean King.

"Several things went very wrong during the @usopen Womens Finals today," King wrote. "Coaching on every point should be allowed in tennis. It isnt, and as a result, a player was penalized for the actions of her coach. This should not happen.

"When a woman is emotional, shes hysterical and shes penalized for it," King continued. "When a man does the same, hes outspoken & and there are no repercussions. Thank you, @serenawilliams, for calling out this double standard. More voices are needed to do the same."

Williams coach, Patrick Mouratoglou, later admitted to an ESPN reported that I was coaching.

Im honest, I was coaching. I mean I dont think she looked at me so thats why she didnt even think I was but I was like 100 percent of the coaches on [sic] 100 percent of the matches. He said that he believes that rules like this are killing tennis.

I have always said it. Not to allow the players to express their feelings is stupid, I mean its not a big deal breaking racquets.

Williams said later at the press conference: I dont need to cheat to win. Ive won enough. Thats never been something Ive ever done, you know.

Full ARticle: http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2018/09/09/serena-williams-accuses-umpire-sexism-in-us-open-loss.html
30xh6mo
Sounds like a sore loser to me. The chick who kicked your ass had lady-parts too ya'know?

Maybe next time just don't cheat rather than complain men get away with cheating.
'It's not a big deal breaking rackets' fuck you Patrick, be a profressional. These are athletes not children
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
09/09/18 5:24:42 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Sounds like a sore loser to me. The chick who kicked your ass had lady-parts too ya'know?

Do you actually think you understand the things you read and share
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ManBeast462
09/09/18 5:24:45 AM
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What is coaching in this context and why is it against the rules?

What a sore loser though, losing to an Asian must be annoying for her.

Is she gon get a Nike deal too?
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ModLogic
09/09/18 5:25:06 AM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
09/09/18 5:25:15 AM
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ManBeast462 posted...
What is coaching in this context and why is it against the rules?

they're not allowed to get advice between serves
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
09/09/18 5:26:13 AM
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ModLogic posted...
should have played the race card too

Serena is like THE POSTERCHILD for greatness being met with skepticism and doubt, massive criticism BECAUSE OF HER RACE

PEOPLE
MARIA SHARAPOVA HAS BEEN IRRELEVANT FOR A DECADE
YET HER NAME IS STILL BROUGHT UP STILL BROUGHT UP NEXT TO SERENA WILLIAMS'
WHY

You know why
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UnfairRepresent
09/09/18 5:26:46 AM
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ModLogic posted...
should have played the race card too

Not only is the chick who beat her female.
But the chick who beat her is also a minority.

So these victim cards are kinda hilarious and are very transparent.

She's just a sore loser who has never been told "no" in her life. She's like a grown up Angelica Pickles
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Lathissamus
09/09/18 5:26:59 AM
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She may very well have a point.
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Mizznox
09/09/18 5:28:01 AM
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She didn't blame it for her loss, wtf.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
09/09/18 5:29:02 AM
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ManBeast462 posted...
Is she gon get a Nike deal too?

also holy thinly veiled racism batman

Are you this ignorant that you don't even know Serena Williams is one of Nike's BIGGEST endorsements
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Dragonblade01
09/09/18 5:30:18 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
The chick who kicked your ass had lady-parts too ya'know?

But that has nothing to do with her criticism of the umpire.
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ModLogic
09/09/18 5:32:29 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
But the chick who beat her is also a minority.

asians arent on the SJW bare minimum tolerance list tho.
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UnfairRepresent
09/09/18 5:33:10 AM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
The chick who kicked your ass had lady-parts too ya'know?

But that has nothing to do with her criticism of the umpire.

Sure does.

She's claiming sexism yet her opponent suffered under the same rules and won fair and square because she didn't cheat.

Can't explain that
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
09/09/18 5:34:24 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
She's claiming sexism yet her opponent suffered under the same rules and won fair and square because she didn't cheat.

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
Do you actually think you understand the things you read and share

you haven't answered my question, not directly at least
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Dragonblade01
09/09/18 5:35:59 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
The chick who kicked your ass had lady-parts too ya'know?

But that has nothing to do with her criticism of the umpire.

Sure does.

She's claiming sexism yet her opponent suffered under the same rules and won fair and square because she didn't cheat.

Can't explain that

No, she's saying that her complaining to the umpire was treated more harshly because she was a woman, mentioning that men don't receive the same calls for similar actions. Her opponent didn't complain to the umpire.

Now, I don't know if the umpire's decision was actually motivated by her sex or not, but it certainly has nothing to do with the fact that both players were women.
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UnfairRepresent
09/09/18 6:09:31 AM
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Dragonblade01 posted...

No, she's saying that her complaining to the umpire was treated more harshly because she was a woman, mentioning that men don't receive the same calls for similar actions. Her opponent didn't complain to the umpire.


Exactly.

Her opponent didn't cheat so she won fair and square.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
09/09/18 6:10:23 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Her opponent didn't cheat so she won fair and square.

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
Do you actually think you understand the things you read and share

please respond
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Foppe
09/09/18 6:13:57 AM
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If her coach knows that it can hurt her, why does he keep coaching her on every match?
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UnfairRepresent
09/09/18 6:16:43 AM
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Foppe posted...
If her coach knows that it can hurt her, why does he keep coaching her on every match?

Because he thinks it shouldn't be cheating, therefore it's okay to cheat.

Same as if a racer cut a corner because she thought it shouldn't be cheating. Then blaming sexism when she's penalized
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Dragonblade01
09/09/18 6:17:18 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...

No, she's saying that her complaining to the umpire was treated more harshly because she was a woman, mentioning that men don't receive the same calls for similar actions. Her opponent didn't complain to the umpire.


Exactly.

Her opponent didn't cheat so she won fair and square.

And it still has nothing to do with what she's talking about when she accuses the umpire of sexism.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
09/09/18 6:18:03 AM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Her opponent didn't cheat so she won fair and square.

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
Do you actually think you understand the things you read and share

please respond

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gp1829
09/09/18 6:18:03 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...

No, she's saying that her complaining to the umpire was treated more harshly because she was a woman, mentioning that men don't receive the same calls for similar actions. Her opponent didn't complain to the umpire.


Exactly.

Her opponent didn't cheat so she won fair and square.


You really don't ever know what you are talking about huh?
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Yomi
09/09/18 6:18:18 AM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...

No, she's saying that her complaining to the umpire was treated more harshly because she was a woman, mentioning that men don't receive the same calls for similar actions. Her opponent didn't complain to the umpire.


Exactly.

Her opponent didn't cheat so she won fair and square.

And it still has nothing to do with what she's talking about when she accuses the umpire of sexism.
You're like, trying to rationalize with UnfairRepresent here :P
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UnfairRepresent
09/09/18 6:19:00 AM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...

No, she's saying that her complaining to the umpire was treated more harshly because she was a woman, mentioning that men don't receive the same calls for similar actions. Her opponent didn't complain to the umpire.


Exactly.

Her opponent didn't cheat so she won fair and square.

And it still has nothing to do with what she's talking about when she accuses the umpire of sexism.

"You're sexist but not against women, only against me when I cheat."

Ok.
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Foppe
09/09/18 6:22:19 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Foppe posted...
If her coach knows that it can hurt her, why does he keep coaching her on every match?

Because he thinks it shouldn't be cheating, therefore it's okay to cheat.

Same as if a racer cut a corner because she thought it shouldn't be cheating. Then blaming sexism when she's penalized

But she didnt cheat.
And men have said worse things on matches without losing sets.
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haloiscoolisbak
09/09/18 6:22:47 AM
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Foppe posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Foppe posted...
If her coach knows that it can hurt her, why does he keep coaching her on every match?

Because he thinks it shouldn't be cheating, therefore it's okay to cheat.

Same as if a racer cut a corner because she thought it shouldn't be cheating. Then blaming sexism when she's penalized

But she didnt cheat.
And men have said worse things on matches without losing sets.


she only lost a game. and it was because it was her 3rd violation
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Dragonblade01
09/09/18 6:23:06 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...

No, she's saying that her complaining to the umpire was treated more harshly because she was a woman, mentioning that men don't receive the same calls for similar actions. Her opponent didn't complain to the umpire.


Exactly.

Her opponent didn't cheat so she won fair and square.

And it still has nothing to do with what she's talking about when she accuses the umpire of sexism.

"You're sexist but not against women, only against me when I cheat."

Ok.

Read the sentence right before the one that you bolded.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
09/09/18 6:24:16 AM
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oh man UR is reaaally trolling us here so BAD

"HAHA I WAS ONLY PRETENDING TO BE DENSE! YOU LOSE"
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UnfairRepresent
09/09/18 6:24:48 AM
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Foppe posted...

But she didnt cheat.
And men have said worse things on matches without losing sets.

"She didn't cheat because I can think of a guy who got away with cheating."

Ok...

I guess sexism is also why Armstrong got discredited despite other people doing the same thing, not because he was cheating
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MuayThai85
09/09/18 6:32:25 AM
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ManBeast462 posted...
What is coaching in this context and why is it against the rules?

What a sore loser though, losing to an Asian must be annoying for her.

Is she gon get a Nike deal too?


Her coach actually admitted to coaching during the match in an interview afterwards, he claimed everyone else did it but rarely got called out on it. Serena outright lied claiming he just gave her a thumbs up which it has been proven he didn't.

She cost herself the match by acting like a prima donna. A match she would have likely lost anyways seeing as how the same girl smacked her around 6-2 in the first set and also beat her in their previous match.
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Awesome
09/09/18 6:43:50 AM
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remember when serena had a meltdown a long time ago and said shed shove the tennis ball down a line judges throat? shes a thug.
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DocileOrangeCup
09/09/18 6:49:39 AM
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ManBeast462 posted...
What is coaching in this context and why is it against the rules?

What a sore loser though, losing to an Asian must be annoying for her.

Is she gon get a Nike deal too?

tbh if i gotta lose to anyone i'd rather it be an asian
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Vyrulisse
09/09/18 6:50:37 AM
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She literally would have lost anyway. Naomi had her number big time.
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juicebox4
09/09/18 6:52:06 AM
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ManBeast462 posted...
What is coaching in this context and why is it against the rules?

What a sore loser though, losing to an Asian must be annoying for her.

Is she gon get a Nike deal too?

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DirkDiggles
09/09/18 6:54:46 AM
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"Guyz, I have to justify somehow why I lost so bad to a no-name Asian gurl!" ~Serena Williams
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Flamazide
09/09/18 6:58:57 AM
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You guys are really fucking weird.
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NeonOctopus
09/09/18 7:00:33 AM
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I didn't read the article, but how is it sexism if both opponents are female? >____>
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gp1829
09/09/18 7:03:12 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
I didn't read the article, but how is it sexism if both opponents are female? >____>


If only there were a way to find out why she was suggesting that.
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NeonOctopus
09/09/18 7:03:46 AM
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gp1829 posted...
NeonOctopus posted...
I didn't read the article, but how is it sexism if both opponents are female? >____>


If only there were a way to find out why she was suggesting that.

Eh, too lazy.
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/09/18 7:04:12 AM
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can anybody say ANYTHING without shit being intentionally misconstrued by people with no integrity? it's not even a reading comprehension issue. this is deliberate fuckery, lolololol.

no matter what, if people want to see you fall, they'll pull every piece of fiction out of their ass to create a new storyline.

Serena's argument is that it's more acceptable for a male athlete to go off.. which is true. when she(a woman) goes off, she feels it's responded to more harshly. and she feels like her character was attacked by the cheating implications she felt. it's an argument that's got nothing to do with Naomi's performance.

or military vets.
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The Great Muta 22
09/09/18 7:06:14 AM
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Flamazide posted...
You guys are really fucking weird.


They really are.
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Dragonblade01
09/09/18 7:06:33 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
I didn't read the article, but how is it sexism if both opponents are female? >____>

She's claiming that men are rarely penalized for the same behavior that she displayed towards the umpire.
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Le__seul_dieu__
09/09/18 7:07:20 AM
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i like how tc only recognizes half of her race. she's also Haitian.
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DirkDiggles
09/09/18 7:09:49 AM
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Le__seul_dieu__ posted...
i like how tc only recognizes half of her race. she's also Haitian.


Haitian is a race?
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Scotty_Rogers
09/09/18 7:11:02 AM
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She lost to a woman because she was a woman? lolwat
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Rimmer_Dall
09/09/18 7:11:32 AM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
NeonOctopus posted...
I didn't read the article, but how is it sexism if both opponents are female? >____>

She's claiming that men are rarely penalized for the same behavior that she displayed towards the umpire.

So she's resorting to whataboutism.
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Dragonblade01
09/09/18 7:14:44 AM
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Rimmer_Dall posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
NeonOctopus posted...
I didn't read the article, but how is it sexism if both opponents are female? >____>

She's claiming that men are rarely penalized for the same behavior that she displayed towards the umpire.

So she's resorting to whataboutism.

Basically. Serena's always had a bit of an unruly temper.

But the point is that she's not claiming sexism based on anything about her opponent. She's claiming something is sexism by saying that the same situation would have been handled differently if it were a male tennis player.
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UnfairRepresent
09/09/18 7:18:25 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
I didn't read the article, but how is it sexism if both opponents are female? >____>

She's claiming that her cheating would be excused if she had a dick and that the umpire is biased against women by enforcing the rules
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09/09/18 7:19:32 AM
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MabusIncarnate
09/09/18 7:20:12 AM
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No, she got outplayed, dominated even. Regardless of the call at hand, she got her ass whooped on the court by the better competitor. She's being a crybaby because she got fat and old.
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