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jeaton
09/09/18 8:27:15 PM
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It's almost like I saw a different game, with every headline I read, most are siding with Serena Williams; What is going on here, maybe I'm being sexist too, but the only thing I saw was Serena Williams throwing a huge tantrum, while getting her ass served too her?
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LooksLikeDarko
09/09/18 8:28:15 PM
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What is the issue here?
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jeaton
09/09/18 8:30:51 PM
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The issue is almost every new headliner is calling Carlos Ramos a sexist, and blaming him for Serena Williams lost.
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Milkman5
09/09/18 8:31:48 PM
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most journalists are extremely liberal
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mustachedmystic
09/09/18 8:34:05 PM
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When a woman plays the sexism card, or a POC the race one, it's better to go along with it than to risk percussions from calling them out on it.
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FLUFFYGERM
09/09/18 8:57:48 PM
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they literally just praised her recently for wearing the skin suit and making a statement, so itd be weird for them to bash her for acting like a petulant child so soon after the most recent puff pieces
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Freddie_Mercury
09/09/18 8:58:28 PM
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AlephZero
09/09/18 8:59:12 PM
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PiOverlord
09/09/18 9:01:37 PM
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It's just like the video game Jessica Price thing, except not quite as bad
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FrisbeeDude
09/09/18 9:08:12 PM
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everyone outside the MAGA crew knows she got screwed
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SuperMedz3
09/09/18 9:10:39 PM
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This about her playing the sex card?
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GreatEvilEmpire
09/09/18 9:16:28 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
everyone outside the MAGA crew knows she got screwed


You're just hating cause he got herself a white man. You wish you got yourself a white man.

And she lost that game badly. She was playing so poorly that she was looking for an excuse to blame someone and she found someone to blame. Her ego couldn't take the ass whopping, so she decided to make the game about herself, instead of the winner.
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09/09/18 9:23:08 PM
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Freddie_Mercury posted...
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lmao wtf
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jeaton
09/09/18 9:28:53 PM
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I was suspended for a very long time.
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Damn_Underscore
09/09/18 9:29:03 PM
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PiOverlord posted...
It's just like the video game Jessica Price thing, except not quite as bad


I would say it's worse because no one really cares about video games.
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/09/18 9:40:41 PM
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imagine if Serena had called the ump a "son of a bitch," lolololol

too bad she didn't get to wear her catsuit... that booty would've been shaking while she stomped around. that's what dreams are made of.
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PiOverlord
09/09/18 10:53:50 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
PiOverlord posted...
It's just like the video game Jessica Price thing, except not quite as bad


I would say it's worse because no one really cares about video games.

I mean, it will be more noticeable. It's just I can see why people would side with Serena, her case isn't something to completely throw out.

Whereas the Jessica Price one was just disgusting since she is a legitimately terrible person that video-game media made the poster child of unfairly treated workers.
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FrisbeeDude
09/09/18 11:01:00 PM
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USTA chief comes out in defense of Williams. Very good on her part

https://twitter.com/stu_fraser/status/1038875472233463808?s=19

Ramos has a history of letting people slide who have straight up disrespected him

https://twitter.com/AgentTinsley/status/1038619677688135686?s=19
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Damn_Underscore
09/09/18 11:26:23 PM
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The youtube video cited in the tweet only talks about a single heated argument and the Youtube comment says "You're losing your mind" cannot be heard in the original footage, and that the video is lying.
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alt_no_1_loves
09/09/18 11:29:47 PM
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This is one of those situations that can't be accurately described in a headline, and the ability to consider multiple things at once is useful!

Serena Williams lost mostly because she got outplayed, but the penalties against her certainly didn't help.

Should she have been penalized? Yeah, according to the rules, which she and her coach should certainly know because they've been doing this forever.

So what's the problem? The problem is the rules are enforced differently for men and women. Going back in tennis history and continuing with players today, men have often seen these same rules go unenforced. The umpires generally do nothing when men smash their racquets or argue calls, but Williams get's penalized for it in key moments of a huge match. Unequal treatment for men and women. Also known as sexism.
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White Eagle
09/09/18 11:32:52 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
USTA chief comes out in defense of Williams. Very good on her part

https://twitter.com/stu_fraser/status/1038875472233463808?s=19

Ramos has a history of letting people slide who have straight up disrespected him

https://twitter.com/AgentTinsley/status/1038619677688135686?s=19

The second tweet is full of lies. I clicked on a few of the links and didn't see the "multiple code violations" described. One is a youtube link that only describes a match with pictures, no video!

The user also refers to point and game penalties like they're the umpire's discretion whether to issue those or just a warning. It isn't.

First you get a warning (Serena got one for coaching, her coach has already admitted he coached her during the match Saturday), then you get a point penalty (Serena got one for smashing her racquet. This is universal, no man or woman gets away with it.), and then the game penalty is next (which Serena got for unsportsmanlike conduct).

If someone finds examples of racquet smashing with no point penalty or shouting at the umpire with no game penalty, all it means is that there were no earlier violations when those incidents occurred.
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Damn_Underscore
09/09/18 11:34:55 PM
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If you watch the original footage the one announcer says it perfectly:

"Yes men have done worse things, but not three times"
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Skye Reynolds
09/09/18 11:35:02 PM
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I would've thought the account would've been expunged by now. Props to them on being able to remember the password after so many years without use.
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White Eagle
09/09/18 11:38:30 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
The youtube video cited in the tweet only talks about a single heated argument and the Youtube comment says "You're losing your mind" cannot be heard in the original footage, and that the video is lying.

lol, nice catch
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monkmith
09/09/18 11:48:00 PM
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alt_no_1_loves posted...
This is one of those situations that can't be accurately described in a headline, and the ability to consider multiple things at once is useful!

Serena Williams lost mostly because she got outplayed, but the penalties against her certainly didn't help.

Should she have been penalized? Yeah, according to the rules, which she and her coach should certainly know because they've been doing this forever.

So what's the problem? The problem is the rules are enforced differently for men and women. Going back in tennis history and continuing with players today, men have often seen these same rules go unenforced. The umpires generally do nothing when men smash their racquets or argue calls, but Williams get's penalized for it in key moments of a huge match. Unequal treatment for men and women. Also known as sexism.

thanks for this, makes the most sense.
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Bio1590
09/09/18 11:52:40 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
Freddie_Mercury posted...
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I would've thought the account would've been expunged by now. Props to them on being able to remember the password after so many years without use.

Or they bought it or hacked it
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White Eagle
09/09/18 11:53:36 PM
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s0nicfan
09/09/18 11:56:16 PM
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alt_no_1_loves posted...
This is one of those situations that can't be accurately described in a headline, and the ability to consider multiple things at once is useful!

Serena Williams lost mostly because she got outplayed, but the penalties against her certainly didn't help.

Should she have been penalized? Yeah, according to the rules, which she and her coach should certainly know because they've been doing this forever.

So what's the problem? The problem is the rules are enforced differently for men and women. Going back in tennis history and continuing with players today, men have often seen these same rules go unenforced. The umpires generally do nothing when men smash their racquets or argue calls, but Williams get's penalized for it in key moments of a huge match. Unequal treatment for men and women. Also known as sexism.


Was she going up against a man? Even if the argument is that refs enforce rules with different priorities between men and women... she's always been a woman, and she's always gone up against women, so the idea that she would be unaware of what they would enforce, or that it could possibly have been unfair compared to her opponent, holds no water.
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monkmith
09/09/18 11:58:48 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
alt_no_1_loves posted...
This is one of those situations that can't be accurately described in a headline, and the ability to consider multiple things at once is useful!

Serena Williams lost mostly because she got outplayed, but the penalties against her certainly didn't help.

Should she have been penalized? Yeah, according to the rules, which she and her coach should certainly know because they've been doing this forever.

So what's the problem? The problem is the rules are enforced differently for men and women. Going back in tennis history and continuing with players today, men have often seen these same rules go unenforced. The umpires generally do nothing when men smash their racquets or argue calls, but Williams get's penalized for it in key moments of a huge match. Unequal treatment for men and women. Also known as sexism.


Was she going up against a man? Even if the argument is that refs enforce rules with different priorities between men and women... she's always been a woman, and she's always gone up against women, so the idea that she would be unaware of what they would enforce, or that it could possibly have been unfair compared to her opponent, holds no water.

think the point is she was flipping out for being called on something male competitors get away with, like that thing about the woman turning her shirt around on the sideline a couple days ago.

its also possible she played off that incident because she lost her temper.
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MuayThai85
09/10/18 12:00:35 AM
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Her coach knowingly and admittedly cheated during the match. Serena acted like a prima donna and got herself deservingly penalized for it. Her being an utter bitch ruined what should have been a very special day for the Japanese girl.
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LRodC
09/10/18 12:13:43 AM
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Its because she is a black woman
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Damn_Underscore
09/10/18 12:14:36 AM
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I just watched it again.

The coach gave her a thumbs up and she got warned for it. She says that "I know you don't know this but we don't have a code, I wasn't cheating."

Okay cool, it should have ended there.

Then she loses a game and breaks her racket. She gets a second penalty which = a point penalty. She then has a meltdown because she didn't think she deserved the first penalty. She yells at the umpire, she essentially threatens his career, and she says "you're a thief" which is apparently what caused him to give her a third penalty which = a game penalty. She calls out the referee and has an even bigger meltdown but he says he can't do anything. By then her opponent only has one more game left to win the match and she wins it.

Serena honestly should have gotten another penalty after she called out the referee.
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GreatEvilEmpire
09/10/18 1:03:35 AM
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monkmith posted...
think the point is she was flipping out for being called on something male competitors get away with, like that thing about the woman turning her shirt around on the sideline a couple days ago.


Men like McEnroe, from about 40 years ago?

People keep comparing this situation to McEnroe, in a different time period. You know what changed in sports in 40 years? Everything. Football, basketball, boxing and numerous other sports had rule changes related everything from conduct to safety. If men pull that shit today, they would get penalized the same way.

There is no excuse for what Serena did. Her sister is much classier than she is.
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haloiscoolisbak
09/10/18 9:17:58 AM
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GreatEvilEmpire posted...
monkmith posted...
think the point is she was flipping out for being called on something male competitors get away with, like that thing about the woman turning her shirt around on the sideline a couple days ago.


Men like McEnroe, from about 40 years ago?

People keep comparing this situation to McEnroe, in a different time period. You know what changed in sports in 40 years? Everything. Football, basketball, boxing and numerous other sports had rule changes related everything from conduct to safety. If men pull that shit today, they would get penalized the same way.

There is no excuse for what Serena did. Her sister is much classier than she is.


and let's not forget McEnroe copped a DQ for a third violation once. The rules are always adhered too so its quite frustrating to see all this misinformation flying around
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Link HT
09/10/18 9:23:55 AM
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She threw a huge tantrum and I lost all respect for her and honestly anyone who thinks she was in the right.

She was losing badly already and only got a warning for coaching, it wouldn't have been a big deal if she managed to behave like a professional and not berate the referee as well as breaking her racket.

All her arguments were absolute dogshit and manipulative and it was clear as day that she was just trying to gain sympathy because she knew she had ZERO ground to stand on.

"I would never cheat I'm a mother!!" when clearly she did receive coaching and her own fucking coach admitted to it. The nerve on that woman to just tell a bold-faced lie because she knows she's being filmed to try and gain sympathy and making the ref out to be the bad guy.

She then goes on to pull the sexism and race card when her opponent is fucking naomi who is obviously also a woman and asian.

"say you're sorry! say it! say it! then don't talk to me!"

What a fucking asshat, get fucked Serena and anyone who thinks she was right can go to hell with her.
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DoubleDare
09/10/18 9:24:21 AM
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How come 99% of other female players wear regular tennis attire and don't cause scenes like her?

She wants to play this persecuted card, when its her doing shit to stir stuff up.
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The Great Muta 22
09/10/18 9:39:20 AM
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Link HT posted...
What a fucking asshat, get fucked Serena and anyone who thinks she was right can go to hell with her.


That's a bit of an overreaction, don't you think?
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SuperMedz3
09/10/18 9:40:23 AM
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DoubleDare posted...
How come 99% of other female players wear regular tennis attire and don't cause scenes like her?

She wants to play this persecuted card, when its her doing shit to stir stuff up.

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