Current Events > RE: Ciri being cast to be Black Asian Minority Ethnic in Witcher TV series

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AvantgardeAClue posted...

Knew this series was too good to be true

Sure you could go "Why does it matter" just as much as I can go "Why did it have to matter"

If this series happens I want the cast to match the characters as closely as possible. Don't see what's too unreasonable about that

At the end of the day, that's always been my stance about the issue of casting in general, and I've stated my opinion on it plenty of times. I just like characters to look like the character, end of story. That's all that should really matter. It's dumb to go out of your way to make a character NOT look like the character. Like Domino in Dead Pool 2.
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16-BITTER posted...

Bok_Choi posted...

Black Panther.... also centers around his race/heritage?

According to the Polish, so do these Witcher characters.

But you don't care about respect to heritage if they're white.

If this was about being Polish then Henry Cavill would be getting shit. Nah let's not pretend it's about anything other than the color of skin. If an actress was announced who was non-polish and white or a casting list was leaked that just said white this "controversy" wouldn't even exist

So lets make a list

It's okay to appropriate: Polish Culture

What else?

Youngster_Joey_ posted...

What else?

Guinness.

How culturally deficient is Poland if a video game is their greatest achievement?
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How would making Ciri black improve the character in any way outside of getting some buzz from people who clearly never gave a shit about The Witcher in the first place?
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Axiom posted...

.....did you really just choose not only another character whose identity is based around his race but one that is literally called Black

A lot of people don't realize this but her full name is actually White Ciri
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Also WTF at Cavil not getting any shit? This very board was giving it shit just a few days ago.
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Axiom posted...

16-BITTER posted...

Bok_Choi posted...

Black Panther.... also centers around his race/heritage?

According to the Polish, so do these Witcher characters.

But you don't care about respect to heritage if they're white.

If this was about being Polish then Henry Cavill would be getting shit. Nah let's not pretend it's about anything other than the color of skin. If an actress was announced who was non-polish and white or a casting list was leaked that just said white this "controversy" wouldn't even exist

Maybe it's because Cavill can convincingly play a person of Polish ancestry? Sort of like how Black Panther took place in Africa and is all about Africans, but I'm sure there were black people of different nationalities (continentalities?) than African cast in the movie.

Polish people are white, yeah. So white people can play polish characters I guess. That makes enough sense to me.
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Youngster_Joey_ posted...

So lets make a list

It's okay to appropriate: Polish Culture

What else?

It's really funny how you people love to demonstrate that you don't understand what cultural appropriation is, YET.
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Swagnificent119 posted...

Also WTF at Cavil not getting any shit? This very board was giving it shit just a few days ago.

He was getting s*** for the fact that hes not polish?
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Swagnificent119 posted...

How would making Ciri black improve the character in any way outside of getting some buzz from people who clearly never gave a shit about The Witcher in the first place?

Opportunities for black actresses.
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man i can't wait for the meltdowns over the ciri/yennefer/triss casting
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AmericaTheBrave posted...

Swagnificent119 posted...

How would making Ciri black improve the character in any way outside of getting some buzz from people who clearly never gave a shit about The Witcher in the first place?

Opportunities for black actresses.

so... quotas?

AmericaTheBrave posted...

Swagnificent119 posted...

How would making Ciri black improve the character in any way outside of getting some buzz from people who clearly never gave a shit about The Witcher in the first place?

Opportunities for black actresses.

Yes, because we're in such short supply of that these days *rolls fucking eyes*
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Swagnificent119 posted...

Yes, because we're in such short supply of that these days *rolls fucking eyes*

"black women should just be thankful for whatever roles they can find since that's the status quo i'm comfortable with"
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Swagnificent119 posted...

AmericaTheBrave posted...

Swagnificent119 posted...

How would making Ciri black improve the character in any way outside of getting some buzz from people who clearly never gave a shit about The Witcher in the first place?

Opportunities for black actresses.

Yes, because we're in such short supply of that these days *rolls fucking eyes*

Compared to white actresses, yes.
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Bok_Choi posted...

Swagnificent119 posted...

Yes, because we're in such short supply of that these days *rolls fucking eyes*

"black women should just be thankful for whatever roles they can find since that's the status quo i'm comfortable with"

...but it's perfectly fine when Tyler Perry steals one?

In the future every actor will just be extremely racially ambiguous
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Bok_Choi posted...

Swagnificent119 posted...

Yes, because we're in such short supply of that these days *rolls fucking eyes*

"black women should just be thankful for whatever roles they can find since that's the status quo i'm comfortable with"

That's not what I said at all, but thanks for trying you racist piece of shit.
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Meh, I don't think the backlash would be nearly as bad if it didn't seem like they're only looking to change her for the sake of it.

Netflix shows suck ass anyways though so I never had my hopes up.
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iPhone_7 posted...

Swagnificent119 posted...

Also WTF at Cavil not getting any shit? This very board was giving it shit just a few days ago.

He was getting s*** for the fact that hes not polish?

Ahem
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I don't think the backlash would be as bad if people actually waited to see what this was all about instead of immediately jumping to conclusions
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AmericaTheBrave posted...

How culturally deficient is Poland if a video game is their greatest achievement?

It's very culturally deficint, between the Nazis and Communism destroying their culture over 70 years.
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eston posted...

I don't think the backlash would be as bad if people actually waited to see what this was all about instead of immediately jumping to conclusions

People who have a problem with this are going to go in wanting to hate any minor flaw this show will inevitably have... and thats if they even bother to watch at all. Its silly.
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eston posted...

I don't think the backlash would be as bad if people actually waited to see what this was all about instead of immediately jumping to conclusions

What is it all about?
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Swagnificent119 posted...

eston posted...

I don't think the backlash would be as bad if people actually waited to see what this was all about instead of immediately jumping to conclusions

What is it all about?

Why are you asking me this when my suggestion was to wait and see? You aren't clever
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eston posted...

I don't think the backlash would be as bad if people actually waited to see what this was all about instead of immediately jumping to conclusions

By that point it'll be too late

Did anyone wait to see if ScarJo could do a trans character or whoever she was originally casted to be
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

eston posted...

I don't think the backlash would be as bad if people actually waited to see what this was all about instead of immediately jumping to conclusions

By that point it'll be too late

Did anyone wait to see if ScarJo could do a trans character or whoever she was originally casted to be

It wouldn't be too late for them to bitch about it, which is all they'll do anyway. And is that movie even still being made?

Also, again, she was going to be playing a real person
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I have the wiki article of the history of Poland open here. Could someone quick point me to the section of its history where the Witcher actually happened?
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CyricZ posted...

I have the wiki article of the history of Poland open here. Could someone quick point me to the section of its history where the Witcher actually happened?

Dead

eston posted...

AvantgardeAClue posted...

eston posted...

I don't think the backlash would be as bad if people actually waited to see what this was all about instead of immediately jumping to conclusions

By that point it'll be too late

Did anyone wait to see if ScarJo could do a trans character or whoever she was originally casted to be

It wouldn't be too late for them to bitch about it, which is all they'll do anyway. And is that movie even still being made?

Also, again, she was going to be playing a real person

A better example would be when she played Motoko in Ghost in the Shell and got flak for it. That controversy was equally as stupid as this one

Axiom posted...

A better example would be when she played Motoko in Ghost in the Shell and got flak for it. That controversy was equally as stupid as this one

Never saw it tbqh, but on a scale of 1-10 how much did her being white ruin it?

Edit: I feel the need to point out that I'm being sarcastic >_>
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DuranOfForcena posted...

CyricZ posted...

I have the wiki article of the history of Poland open here. Could someone quick point me to the section of its history where the Witcher actually happened?

i have the wiki article of the history of Africa open here. could someone quick point me to the section of its history where Black Panther actually happened?

no? it didn't actually happen historically? well i guess that means it's okay to cast a white guy as T'Challa then.

People already explained why this is a stupid comparison, try reading the topic
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eston posted...

Axiom posted...

A better example would be when she played Motoko in Ghost in the Shell and got flak for it. That controversy was equally as stupid as this one

Never saw it tbqh, but on a scale of 1-10 how much did her being white ruin it?

Edit: I feel the need to point out that I'm being sarcastic >_>

Lol yeah I figured. Tbh I could tell the movie itself would be awful so I didn't bother but I didn't see any problem with Johannsen playing her

eston posted...

Why are you asking me this when my suggestion was to wait and see? You aren't clever

I wasn't trying to be, but you like to act like you know shit when you just keep spouting the same SJW rheteric over and over.

It's exhausting how ignorant all of you usual suspects truly are because of your victim complexes/white guilt.
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DuranOfForcena posted...

CyricZ posted...

I have the wiki article of the history of Poland open here. Could someone quick point me to the section of its history where the Witcher actually happened?

i have the wiki article of the history of Africa open here. could someone quick point me to the section of its history where Black Panther actually happened?

no? it didn't actually happen historically? well i guess that means it's okay to cast a white guy as T'Challa then.

There are plenty of comic issues where his skin color and racism are a focus. Hell in one series he gets crucified by the Klan. So you dont have a point.
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Swagnificent119 posted...

eston posted...

Why are you asking me this when my suggestion was to wait and see? You aren't clever

I wasn't trying to be, but you like to act like you know shit when you just keep spouting the same SJW rheteric over and over.

It's exhausting how ignorant all of you usual suspects truly are because of your victim complexes/white guilt.

You were trying to be snarky and it didn't work. Womp womp
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Swagnificent119 posted...

Also WTF at Cavil not getting any shit? This very board was giving it shit just a few days ago.

Was that because hes not of polish descent?
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Shouldn't we wait to see who actually gets cast in the roles before clutching our pearls and losing our minds over pure speculation?

Idk, it seems like a lot of people just are looking for a reason to be outraged about this whole thing from the start
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

Shouldn't we wait to see who actually gets cast in the roles before clutching our pearls and losing our minds over pure speculation?

Idk, it seems like a lot of people just are looking for a reason to be outraged about this whole thing from the start

This is what I'm saying
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DuranOfForcena posted...

iPhone_7 posted...

DuranOfForcena posted...

CyricZ posted...

I have the wiki article of the history of Poland open here. Could someone quick point me to the section of its history where the Witcher actually happened?

i have the wiki article of the history of Africa open here. could someone quick point me to the section of its history where Black Panther actually happened?

no? it didn't actually happen historically? well i guess that means it's okay to cast a white guy as T'Challa then.

There are plenty of comic issues where his skin color and racism are a focus. Hell in one series he gets crucified by the Klan. So you dont have a point.

Ciri's lineage and therefore skin color is important in the Witcher universe

shut the fuck up with your fucking idiotic, pathetic, hypocritical, whiny, perpetual victim bullshit

Her character's race can easily be changed and have the same lineage. It isn't based around a racial identity and tbh you sound more like the whiny perpetual victim with these posts

DuranOfForcena posted...

iPhone_7 posted...

DuranOfForcena posted...

CyricZ posted...

I have the wiki article of the history of Poland open here. Could someone quick point me to the section of its history where the Witcher actually happened?

i have the wiki article of the history of Africa open here. could someone quick point me to the section of its history where Black Panther actually happened?

no? it didn't actually happen historically? well i guess that means it's okay to cast a white guy as T'Challa then.

There are plenty of comic issues where his skin color and racism are a focus. Hell in one series he gets crucified by the Klan. So you dont have a point.

Ciri's lineage and therefore skin color is important in the Witcher universe

Her lineage is important on the basis of royalty, not because of her skin color. Try again.
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

Shouldn't we wait to see who actually gets cast in the roles before clutching our pearls and losing our minds over pure speculation?

Idk, it seems like a lot of people just are looking for a reason to be outraged about this whole thing from the start

I mean... at this point I don't think it matters. With how this rumor blew up, if they DONT cast ciri as a minority, they'll be immediately crucified by the other side.

At this point they just get to choose how they get attacked.
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