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FF_Redux
09/14/18 7:04:51 AM
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Tips on spices, veggies, whatever I'll use in it.

Basics is gonna be beef as the main meat, I'll flavor it with unsmoked bacon and fresh chorizo. Garlic, onion. Dark beer, brown sugar, salt, black pepper. The chilies I'll use are dried chipotle, ancho, different ones that were home grown and dried, I'll toast the chillies first. Near the end I'll add black beans. Main spices are cumin, oregano, paprika and ground coriander seeds.

It's gonna be in the pot stewing for many hours so the meat gets super tender.

Toppings I can vary every time I eat it (I'll have enough to freeze some chili). But for tomorrow I'll have cilantro, tomato, white onion, avocado, lime and sour cream, I'll serve it with corn and wheat tortillas.

Gimme tips on what to add, or change whatever for the main chili.
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Des_Proxy
09/14/18 7:07:31 AM
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you're gonna add chilies? ho boy
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FF_Redux
09/14/18 7:08:09 AM
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Des_Proxy posted...
you're gonna add chilies? ho boy


Obviously? It's not a chili otherwise.
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Des_Proxy
09/14/18 7:08:50 AM
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FF_Redux posted...
Des_Proxy posted...
you're gonna add chilies? ho boy


Obviously? It's not a chili otherwise.

sure sure. good luck. hopefully you don't get slapped
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FF_Redux
09/14/18 7:09:16 AM
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Des_Proxy posted...
FF_Redux posted...
Des_Proxy posted...
you're gonna add chilies? ho boy


Obviously? It's not a chili otherwise.

sure sure. good luck. hopefully you don't get slapped


What?
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Isoflurane
09/14/18 7:13:40 AM
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https://www.seriouseats.com/2016/02/science-of-stew-why-long-cooking-is-bad-idea-overcook-beef.html

Don't cook it too long.

Thank God you are using real chiles. The difference between grinding up your own and powdered mix is night and day.
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Des_Proxy
09/14/18 7:15:23 AM
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FF_Redux posted...
Des_Proxy posted...
FF_Redux posted...
Des_Proxy posted...
you're gonna add chilies? ho boy


Obviously? It's not a chili otherwise.

sure sure. good luck. hopefully you don't get slapped


What?

I'm sort of a chili connoisseur and anyone worth their salt wouldn't even dare. But more power to you, just hope you're not serving it to anyone because yeesh
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pres_madagascar
09/14/18 7:15:44 AM
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FF_Redux
09/14/18 7:16:14 AM
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Isoflurane posted...

Don't cook it too long.


Yeah I don't want it to become slushy meat stew, need the beef to still hold shape, but I want the beef to be really tender. Last time I made it, I had it cooking for 3 hours and the beef was still too chewy imo.
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FF_Redux
09/14/18 7:17:45 AM
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Des_Proxy posted...
FF_Redux posted...
Des_Proxy posted...
FF_Redux posted...
Des_Proxy posted...
you're gonna add chilies? ho boy


Obviously? It's not a chili otherwise.

sure sure. good luck. hopefully you don't get slapped


What?

I'm sort of a chili connoisseur and anyone worth their salt wouldn't even dare. But more power to you, just hope you're not serving it to anyone because yeesh


You are not making sense.

Please explain and don't just talk shit.

pres_madagascar posted...
No hatch green chilis?


hatch green chili? I googled it and it took me to some chili store, so I dunno what you mean.
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pres_madagascar
09/14/18 7:18:57 AM
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FF_Redux posted...
Des_Proxy posted...
FF_Redux posted...
Des_Proxy posted...
FF_Redux posted...
Des_Proxy posted...
you're gonna add chilies? ho boy


Obviously? It's not a chili otherwise.

sure sure. good luck. hopefully you don't get slapped


What?

I'm sort of a chili connoisseur and anyone worth their salt wouldn't even dare. But more power to you, just hope you're not serving it to anyone because yeesh


You are not making sense.

Please explain and don't just talk shit.

pres_madagascar posted...
No hatch green chilis?


hatch green chili? I googled it and it took me to some chili store, so I dunno what you mean.

Hatch green chilis are from hatch, New Mexico, they're regarded as the best green chilis on earth. Spicy as fuck too, in a good way. So much flavor too
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Des_Proxy
09/14/18 7:19:14 AM
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I'M SORT OF A CHILI CONNOISSEUR AND ANYONE WORTH THEIR SALT WOULDN'T EVEN DARE

!!

Don't add chilies, jeez

!!

how much more simple can I make it
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FF_Redux
09/14/18 7:19:56 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...

Hatch green chilis are from hatch, New Mexico, they're regarded as the best green chilis on earth. Spicy as fuck too, in a good way. So much flavor too


Yeah I most likely can't get it here.

Des_Proxy posted...
I'M SORT OF A CHILI CONNOISSEUR AND ANYONE WORTH THEIR SALT WOULDN'T EVEN DARE

!!

Don't add chilies, jeez

!!

how much more simple can I make it


And I'm still asking you why, but you aren't explaining it. How can you make a chili without chilies?
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pres_madagascar
09/14/18 7:20:12 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_chile

Des_Proxy posted...
I'M SORT OF A CHILI CONNOISSEUR AND ANYONE WORTH THEIR SALT WOULDN'T EVEN DARE

!!

Don't add chilies, jeez

!!

how much more simple can I make it

You are trippin if you don't put chilis in your chili.
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pres_madagascar
09/14/18 7:20:38 AM
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FF_Redux posted...
pres_madagascar posted...

Hatch green chilis are from hatch, New Mexico, they're regarded as the best green chilis on earth. Spicy as fuck too, in a good way. So much flavor too


Yeah I most likely can't get it here.

Des_Proxy posted...
I'M SORT OF A CHILI CONNOISSEUR AND ANYONE WORTH THEIR SALT WOULDN'T EVEN DARE

!!

Don't add chilies, jeez

!!

how much more simple can I make it


And I'm still asking you why, but you aren't explaining it. How can you make a chili without chilies?

You can, but itd be lame as fuck
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Des_Proxy
09/14/18 7:20:40 AM
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FF_Redux posted...
And I'm still asking you why, but you aren't explaining it. How can you make a chili without chilies?

with meat and seasoning, son
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GoriIIa
09/14/18 7:20:53 AM
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Ghost pepper
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Des_Proxy
09/14/18 7:21:23 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_chile

Des_Proxy posted...
I'M SORT OF A CHILI CONNOISSEUR AND ANYONE WORTH THEIR SALT WOULDN'T EVEN DARE

!!

Don't add chilies, jeez

!!

how much more simple can I make it

You are trippin if you don't put chilis in your chili.

just don't be confused when you get slapped
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pres_madagascar
09/14/18 7:21:47 AM
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Des_Proxy posted...
FF_Redux posted...
And I'm still asking you why, but you aren't explaining it. How can you make a chili without chilies?

with meat and seasoning, son

That's the most white people chili I've ever heard of in my entire life. How utterly boring.
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chrono625
09/14/18 7:21:49 AM
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The trick is to undercook the onions. Everybody is going to get to know each other in the pot. I'm serious about this stuff. I'm up the night before pressing garlic and dicing whole tomatoes. I toast my own Ancho chilies. It's a recipe passed down from in the family for generations. It's probably the thing I do best.
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Des_Proxy
09/14/18 7:22:35 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
Des_Proxy posted...
FF_Redux posted...
And I'm still asking you why, but you aren't explaining it. How can you make a chili without chilies?

with meat and seasoning, son

That's the most white people chili I've ever heard of in my entire life. How utterly boring.

don't be racist and calm down
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pres_madagascar
09/14/18 7:22:42 AM
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Des_Proxy posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_chile

Des_Proxy posted...
I'M SORT OF A CHILI CONNOISSEUR AND ANYONE WORTH THEIR SALT WOULDN'T EVEN DARE

!!

Don't add chilies, jeez

!!

how much more simple can I make it

You are trippin if you don't put chilis in your chili.

just don't be confused when you get slapped

Bro, I literally live in the fucking southwest, 4 hours from the Mexican border, 2 hours from New Mexico. I know chili. No one will slap you for having them, theyll slap you for not having them.
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pres_madagascar
09/14/18 7:23:03 AM
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Des_Proxy posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Des_Proxy posted...
FF_Redux posted...
And I'm still asking you why, but you aren't explaining it. How can you make a chili without chilies?

with meat and seasoning, son

That's the most white people chili I've ever heard of in my entire life. How utterly boring.

don't be racist and calm down

I am a white people.
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Des_Proxy
09/14/18 7:23:29 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
Des_Proxy posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_chile

Des_Proxy posted...
I'M SORT OF A CHILI CONNOISSEUR AND ANYONE WORTH THEIR SALT WOULDN'T EVEN DARE

!!

Don't add chilies, jeez

!!

how much more simple can I make it

You are trippin if you don't put chilis in your chili.

just don't be confused when you get slapped

Bro, I literally live in the fucking southwest, 4 hours from the Mexican border, 2 hours from New Mexico. I know chili. No one will slap you for having them, theyll slap you for not having them.

Des_Proxy posted...
don't be racist and calm down

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pres_madagascar
09/14/18 7:25:06 AM
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Des_Proxy posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Des_Proxy posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_chile

Des_Proxy posted...
I'M SORT OF A CHILI CONNOISSEUR AND ANYONE WORTH THEIR SALT WOULDN'T EVEN DARE

!!

Don't add chilies, jeez

!!

how much more simple can I make it

You are trippin if you don't put chilis in your chili.

just don't be confused when you get slapped

Bro, I literally live in the fucking southwest, 4 hours from the Mexican border, 2 hours from New Mexico. I know chili. No one will slap you for having them, theyll slap you for not having them.

Des_Proxy posted...
don't be racist and calm down

Homeboy literally asked for texas/Mexican flavors for chili. Texans and Mexicans put chili peppers in their chili.
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Kineth
09/14/18 7:25:14 AM
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Hatch green chilis are great and don't listen to someone telling you not to spice your chili up further.

That said, you definitely want to get cayenne peppers first and foremost for chili. Having cayenne pepper powder is preferred. Should you not have that readily available, you could try making a pepper powder yourself. I'd suggest doing that with the other pepper cultivars you're gonna add as well.

Other than that.. it's pretty open ended on how you want to concoct your recipe.

pres_madagascar posted...
Homeboy literally asked for texas/Mexican flavors for chili. Texans and Mexicans put chili peppers in their chili.


Preach!!
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FF_Redux
09/14/18 7:28:29 AM
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Kineth posted...
Hatch green chilis are great and don't listen to someone telling you not to spice your chili up further.

That said, you definitely want to get cayenne peppers first and foremost for chili. Having cayenne pepper powder is preferred. Should you not have that readily available, you could try making a pepper powder yourself. I'd suggest doing that with the other pepper cultivars you're gonna add as well.

Other than that.. it's pretty open ended on how you want to concoct your recipe.


The chillies I'll use are as I said, ancho and chipotle, then I have several different types of dried chilies that are home grown, I dunno all their names, but one is medium sized red ones, not too spicy but nice flavor, then I have some tabasco peppers, and some really small ones that are quite spicy, and then some havanna peppers that aren't habanero strong but has that habanero sweetness. then I have some yellow ones that has an odd flowery citrus taste to them, I may or may not use, also quite spicy.
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Des_Proxy
09/14/18 7:29:20 AM
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pres_madagascar posted...
Homeboy literally asked for texas/Mexican flavors for chili. Texans and Mexicans put chili peppers in their chili.

oof. sure about that, bud?
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pres_madagascar
09/14/18 7:30:10 AM
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Des_Proxy posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Homeboy literally asked for texas/Mexican flavors for chili. Texans and Mexicans put chili peppers in their chili.

oof. sure about that, bud?

Oh fuck off.
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FF_Redux
09/14/18 7:31:30 AM
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I've heard before that sometimes they use some cocoa powder in chilies just to get it some richness and bitterness to balance out flavors. I dunno tho.
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Kineth
09/14/18 7:31:46 AM
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Des_Proxy posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Homeboy literally asked for texas/Mexican flavors for chili. Texans and Mexicans put chili peppers in their chili.

oof. sure about that, bud?


Well, it's anecdotal, but I'm a Texan and consider a chili without peppers in it to be abnormal.
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pres_madagascar
09/14/18 7:33:05 AM
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I have literally never met someone from a renowned chili state that doesn't use chili peppers in chili. The only people I've met that do that are in the midwest.
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Des_Proxy
09/14/18 7:33:24 AM
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Kineth posted...
Des_Proxy posted...
pres_madagascar posted...
Homeboy literally asked for texas/Mexican flavors for chili. Texans and Mexicans put chili peppers in their chili.

oof. sure about that, bud?


Well, it's anecdotal, but I'm a Texan and consider a chili without peppers in it to be abnormal.

yeah I've eaten a lot of chili in my day at high quality competitions and adding chile peppers is a crutch that will get you slapped. I've seen many scrub chili cooks get slapped
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pres_madagascar
09/14/18 7:34:13 AM
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Kineth
09/14/18 7:35:46 AM
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Des_Proxy posted...
yeah I've eaten a lot of chili in my day at high quality competitions and adding chile peppers is a crutch that will get you slapped. I've seen many scrub chili cooks get slapped


Ok, well all you've been doing in this topic is bitching about adding peppers to chili. What are the standards that those competitions look for with chili and what are your recommendations other than no peppers?

Maybe you can answer this question for him...

FF_Redux posted...
I've heard before that sometimes they use some cocoa powder in chilies just to get it some richness and bitterness to balance out flavors. I dunno tho.


I personally don't have any clue about that, but I wouldn't be surprised. People come up with all sorta of weird tricks to make their chili great.
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FF_Redux
09/14/18 7:37:27 AM
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FF_Redux
09/14/18 7:38:45 AM
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Any vegtables I could add to the chili except beans, onions and garlic? I know you can add bell peppers, I may do that.
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Des_Proxy
09/14/18 7:39:40 AM
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Kineth posted...
Des_Proxy posted...
yeah I've eaten a lot of chili in my day at high quality competitions and adding chile peppers is a crutch that will get you slapped. I've seen many scrub chili cooks get slapped


Ok, well all you've been doing in this topic is *****ing about adding peppers to chili. What are the standards that those competitions look for with chili and what are your recommendations other than no peppers?

Maybe you can answer this question for him...

FF_Redux posted...
I've heard before that sometimes they use some cocoa powder in chilies just to get it some richness and bitterness to balance out flavors. I dunno tho.


I personally don't have any clue about that, but I wouldn't be surprised. People come up with all sorta of weird tricks to make their chili great.

I'm not really *****ing, I'm just saying that it's a brave move to use chile peppers because you might get slapped. For a good chili I would look for good and tasty seasoning and quality meat. I wouldn't use cocoa powder because you shouldn't be adding chilies in the first place
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KiwiTerraRizing
09/14/18 7:40:07 AM
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My favorite chili is green pork chili.
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Kineth
09/14/18 7:41:14 AM
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Celery is viable to add to chili as well. I don't really like adding beans to chili, but that doesn't mean you can't. You can add rice or corn, but that's a risky venture with little pay off.
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FF_Redux
09/14/18 7:43:57 AM
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Kineth posted...
Celery is viable to add to chili as well. I don't really like adding beans to chili, but that doesn't mean you can't. You can add rice or corn, but that's a risky venture with little pay off.


I could do a mirepoix base with celery and onion and garlic, I know it's french technique but a good mirepoix gives so much nice flavor.

Not adding corn or rice. I can eat it with rice, but not gonna mix it in the stew. I just love beans and last time I used black beans and it was great.
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Des_Proxy
09/14/18 7:44:38 AM
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FF_Redux posted...
I could do a mirepoix base with celery and onion and garlic, I know it's french technique but a good mirepoix gives so much nice flavor.

lol just don't
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Kineth
09/14/18 7:44:57 AM
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Ah, yes, black beans would be the bean of choice imo. That mirepoix idea sounds perfect as well.
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FF_Redux
09/14/18 7:45:02 AM
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Des_Proxy posted...
FF_Redux posted...
I could do a mirepoix base with celery and onion and garlic, I know it's french technique but a good mirepoix gives so much nice flavor.

lol just don't


I'm not listening to you, so you can just leave this topic.
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Kineth
09/14/18 7:45:50 AM
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Yeah.. you were right that he's just trolling. What a stupid thing to be catty about.
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Des_Proxy
09/14/18 7:48:23 AM
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don't do mirepoix that's so absurd it's actually making me laugh
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SaithSayer
09/14/18 7:51:08 AM
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GoriIIa posted...
Ghost pepper

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AstralMeats
09/14/18 7:58:03 AM
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why's everyone got to put chorizo in everything, that stuff sucks and seems to be the fad ingredient of the last couple of years
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KiwiTerraRizing
09/14/18 8:17:45 AM
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AstralMeats posted...
why's everyone got to put chorizo in everything, that stuff sucks and seems to be the fad ingredient of the last couple of years


Its good but not needed in a dish youll spice yourself
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FF_Redux
09/14/18 8:31:29 AM
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AstralMeats posted...
why's everyone got to put chorizo in everything, that stuff sucks and seems to be the fad ingredient of the last couple of years


The fresh chorizo isnt cooked meat. Im cuttin them up and using the ground meat, its quite fatty too so the fat Ill use for this dish comes from that and the unsmoked bacon.
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