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IfGodCouldDie
09/18/18 8:37:46 AM
#1:


Nt
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Corrik
09/18/18 9:01:27 AM
#2:


##unvote

I think Sbell is just oblivious to how hostile and aggressive he has been this game towards me. Doesn't surprise me cuz the same group of people from the same part of the board are always the ones it comes from with me.
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Ashethan
09/18/18 10:03:07 AM
#3:


Votals: (as of post #2)
[2] Sultan - FD, SBell, (Corrik)
[1] Corrik - Sultan
[0] SBell - (Corrik), (Sultan)
[0] Ben - (Sultan)
[0] Sheep - (Ben)

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day ends at 10:00 PM EST (about 12 hours)
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Obellisk
09/18/18 10:18:52 AM
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keep trolling corrik.
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Sheep007
09/18/18 10:44:58 AM
#5:


The votes from Sultan today have been messy and seem like he's just praying one sticks. Everything since I was last here has seemed like hope from him more than any actual conviction, especially strange considering I and I think at least a few others were pretty 50/50 earlier in the day. Feels more like defeatist scum trying to troll a bit before they die than annoyed town to me. I think this is definitely the best lynch today.

##Vote: Sultan
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Corrik
09/18/18 10:48:59 AM
#6:


Well, let's find out. Sultan seemed genuine in his outrage but fuck it.

##vote: Sultan
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Corrik
09/18/18 10:49:13 AM
#7:


Stop
@Ashethan
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Ashethan
09/18/18 10:49:40 AM
#8:


Stop
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benjamin3740
09/18/18 10:50:41 AM
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Sbell, why would you wonder if Plum scanned you when he said Corrik was the Homer Simpson of mafia? Also you never answered if "Mmmm vanilla" was part of your PM.

Sultan asking Mzero to hammer him kind of makes me want to kill someone else instead X:
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Ashethan
09/18/18 10:58:04 AM
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End of Day 5 Votals
[4] Sultan - FD, SBell, (Corrik) Sheep, Corrik
[1] Corrik - Sultan
[0] SBell - (Corrik), (Sultan)
[0] Ben - (Sultan)
[0] Sheep - (Ben)

"You're scum aren't you, Robot?" the town asked.

"Hey! That's the worst kind of discrimination there is: The kind against me!"

"Push him into that suicide booth over there!" someone said.

So everyone shoved the Robot into a suicide booth.

"Hey!" he shouted as he was being shoved in. "I think I bent the steel used in this one."

TheSultanOfSlam has been lynched. He was Bender, TOWN Vanilla.

The Dead:
[LD1] ScareChan - Adrian Monk - TOWN Cop
[KN1] Red13n - Burton Guster - TOWN Mason
[LD2] Masterplum - Frank Reynolds - MAFIA Rolescanner
[KN2] IfGodCouldDie - Lucifer Morningstar - TOWN Thief
[LD3] eaedwards6400 - Eric Cartman - MAFIA Jack of All Trades
[KN3] Shaduln - Chloe Decker, TOWN Jailkeeper
[LD4] Pirate_Harris - Rick Sanchez, MAFIA Redirector
[KN4] pjbasis - Angel - TOWN Bodyguard
[LD5] TheSultanOfSlam - Bender - TOWN Vanilla

It is now Night 5. If actions are in early, Day will start at 10:00 PM. Otherwise, Night Actions are due by September 19th at 9:00 PM
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eaedwards6400
09/18/18 12:20:12 PM
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Tag
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DoubleTangicide
09/18/18 1:46:50 PM
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eaedwards6400 posted...
Tag

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ScareChan
09/18/18 2:43:54 PM
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Ashethan
09/18/18 9:59:58 PM
#14:


The man with amazing hair wandered the streets when he saw something no one else had.

"I've figured it out!" he said, only to realize his partner and best friend wasn't beside him. "Dammit Gus. You're not allowed to die before me. I told you that a hundred times!"

"You'll be seeing your friend soon," said a voice from the shadows.

Shawn Spencer got a look in his eye that suggested he realized something. "It's coming to me now! I CAN SEE IT CLEAR AS DAY! And I'm going to do everything I can to stop you. Because you killed Gus! You Dastard!"

"I think you mean Bastard."

"I've heard it both ways."

"You think you've got everything figured out, don't you psychic?"

:"I can see it now."

"So tell me. What happened?"

Shawn holds his finger up in the air. "Wait for iiiiiiit!"

But he'd be waiting forever because he was shot in the head.

Mzero11 has been killed. He was Shawn Spencer, TOWN Mason

Player List
(1) Corrik
(2) benjamin3740 (formerly Tange)
(3) Forceful_Dragon
(4) Obellisk
(5) Sheep007

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@Obellisk
@Sheep007

The Dead:
[LD1] ScareChan - Adrian Monk - TOWN Cop
[KN1] Red13n - Burton Guster - TOWN Mason
[LD2] Masterplum - Frank Reynolds - MAFIA Rolescanner
[KN2] IfGodCouldDie - Lucifer Morningstar - TOWN Thief
[LD3] eaedwards6400 - Eric Cartman - MAFIA Jack of All Trades
[KN3] Shaduln - Chloe Decker, TOWN Jailkeeper
[LD4] Pirate_Harris - Rick Sanchez, MAFIA Redirector
[KN4] pjbasis - Angel - TOWN Bodyguard
[LD5] TheSultanOfSlam - Bender "Bending" Rodriguez, TOWN Vanilla
[KN5] Mzero11 - Shawn Spencer, TOWN Mason

Archive: ashchive.altervista.org

It is now Day 6. With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch. Day ends on September 20th at 10:00 PM.
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BlueCrystalTear
09/18/18 10:02:46 PM
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Corrik
09/18/18 10:04:33 PM
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I am pretty upset with myself. I let that dragging the days out fuck with my ability to play the game.

If you feel 1 scum is left, lynch me today to get the fear out of the way then look at Sbell. (Or Tange)

If it isn't Sbell (or tange/Ben), I tip my hat to whoever the remaining scum is because you completely fooled me.

Sheep still has to be town or he is going to win over a total accident. Or shadiness.

FD could have me just straight up fooled with his eaed reads. I mean, honestly there isn't much else to formulate a read on him for otherwise.

Mzero, seriously you made such a bad play with your mason play. You should have revealed this days ago. And let us get red's thoughts on the game. You totally messed up, sir. You would have died the same way regardless and you had no way of knowing if they already knew your role already or not. Very bad usage of your role. But, is what it is.

Good luck, guys.
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Corrik
09/18/18 10:11:41 PM
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Also, the reason I declared it had to be Sbell yesterday earlier in the day was that when I was arguing it was Sultan as the last scum, Sultan wasn't coming after me but another person instead. It seemed like something town would do.

Then I backed off some when Sbell said he flavor breadcrumbs (which I disagree in hindsight this is true and I think he felt out all the claims to see what to do and claimed that just to use a Wifom argument he is town).

Then Mzero found my noobs comment from plum which was just wishful thinking Plum was the very worst scum player of all time. And yes sultan you are correct that if I lynched you over that then I am bad. It was a dream find. Coupling that with you calling FD town it was enough to tip me over to thinking it was you.

Your last posts saying to just hammer you and whatever felt genuine and as if town. But, I was hoping it was just paranoia of the lynch.

Either way, I was bad. I let the stagnation of the game get under my skin, Sbell's open hostility (which I still think is just him trying to rile me up because honestly me and Sbell have always been cool prior to this game & so it confuses me), and paranoia hit me.

I won't like I was a coin flip on Sultan and Sbell yesterday. And if it's not Sbell I just have fucked up royally at the end of this game. Not much different than the other game we thought we had wrapped up and we lost at the end.

Oh well.

Someone pick me up at the end. I have failed to finish unfortunately. A good town game endcapped by a poor first day and end game play.

I played as best as I could this game.
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Corrik
09/18/18 10:22:11 PM
#18:


Also, don't trust my read on Tange. I have a soft spot for Tange as a person because I think he is a cool dude and I generally don't like to Lynch him because he comes off scummy a lot and gets mislynched a lot. I may have let my personal feelings cloud my judgment of him.

As far as Tange and Sbell.

You have to question if Harris would have followed my vote onto his scummate Sbell. But, also remember that Harris said his last teammate was very good help (which would apply to Sbell more than Tange) and that Plum wouldn't vote Sbell late in Day 1 to save eaed.

As far as Tange, the most scummy post from that player slot was Benjamin's replacement post. When people make it outright stated how "if scum, but alas I am town" comments, they usually are scum mindset. Town usually doesn't make proclamations as of this.

I famously shot a player in the first hour of a CE game with a vig shot for talking this way and unsurprisingly they were not town.

It isn't how town talks. So, I mean, it is what it is.

If you lynch me today and it is 1 scum left, they have to shoot Sheep. Leaving FD, Tange, and Sbell at the end. So, FD, I hope you can seal.
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Corrik
09/18/18 10:23:40 PM
#19:


Aight. I am monologuing to myself at this point
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Obellisk
09/18/18 11:13:10 PM
#20:


If FD is still alive...

Corrik, I think we have bigger problems. FD has the ability to work things out. I put FD well above Mzero, no offense to Mzero of course. Why isnt FD dead?

As for Mzero and the Mason, I think you are putting too much stock into the prospect that red is even still paying attention.
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Corrik
09/18/18 11:14:15 PM
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Obellisk posted...
If FD is still alive...

Corrik, I think we have bigger problems. FD has the ability to work things out. I put FD well above Mzero, no offense to Mzero of course. Why isnt FD dead?

As for Mzero and the Mason, I think you are putting too much stock into the prospect that red is even still paying attention.

If he isn't then shame on him.
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Obellisk
09/18/18 11:14:30 PM
#22:


No voting today till we are clear on the lynch.

I need time at a computer at the office tomorrow to really read back.
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Obellisk
09/18/18 11:15:47 PM
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Corrik posted...
Obellisk posted...
If FD is still alive...

Corrik, I think we have bigger problems. FD has the ability to work things out. I put FD well above Mzero, no offense to Mzero of course. Why isnt FD dead?

As for Mzero and the Mason, I think you are putting too much stock into the prospect that red is even still paying attention.

If he isn't then shame on him.


I'm just saying we dont know of he is so we shouldn't be too hard on mzero for keeping his confirmability so close to the chest.
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Corrik
09/18/18 11:16:38 PM
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Obellisk posted...
If FD is still alive...

Corrik, I think we have bigger problems. FD has the ability to work things out. I put FD well above Mzero, no offense to Mzero of course. Why isnt FD dead?

As for Mzero and the Mason, I think you are putting too much stock into the prospect that red is even still paying attention.

Also Sheep was the obvious kill last night unless they knew Mzero was mason already.
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Obellisk
09/18/18 11:18:44 PM
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Corrik posted...
Obellisk posted...
If FD is still alive...

Corrik, I think we have bigger problems. FD has the ability to work things out. I put FD well above Mzero, no offense to Mzero of course. Why isnt FD dead?

As for Mzero and the Mason, I think you are putting too much stock into the prospect that red is even still paying attention.

Also Sheep was the obvious kill last night unless they knew Mzero was mason already.


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Corrik
09/18/18 11:20:55 PM
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Obellisk posted...
Corrik posted...
Obellisk posted...
If FD is still alive...

Corrik, I think we have bigger problems. FD has the ability to work things out. I put FD well above Mzero, no offense to Mzero of course. Why isnt FD dead?

As for Mzero and the Mason, I think you are putting too much stock into the prospect that red is even still paying attention.

Also Sheep was the obvious kill last night unless they knew Mzero was mason already.


Why sheep?

Unless Sheep fluked into the luckiest mistake ever or purposely cheated the game (in which he would be modkilled), he has to be town.

There is again no way he tries to hammer his teammate after the deadline after plum stuck his neck out to save him. So he either was town trying to hammer scum, or scum who purposely tried to hammer after the deadline to make himself look like town and the host failed the game by not modkilling him.

Or it is a fluke in which he will win the game over and it's just dumb luck.
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Corrik
09/18/18 11:21:47 PM
#27:


Hammer isn't the right word but you get what I mean.
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Obellisk
09/18/18 11:26:50 PM
#28:


ok then if I'm to throw all of my wild theories that it's you out the window that leaves fd for me. because everyone else claimed so he knew mzero was mason and took him off the board

fd was the strongest supporter of leaving it till late. fd would be helpful with noobie scum. fd wouldnt be afraid to sink his team further if it helped secure him a win. fd should be dead right now.
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Obellisk
09/18/18 11:27:49 PM
#29:


nothing sticks out with me on tange and since ben joined his given me nothing but town vibes.
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benjamin3740
09/18/18 11:28:47 PM
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Important question. Has FD claimed?
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Corrik
09/18/18 11:29:51 PM
#31:


I still don't see how FD would be the logical scum shot.

While FD has been dead weight basically all game and do nothing, most of what he has done has been to point out things against eaed that he had no reason to do so as scum because it was actually solid evidence against eaed while it also shed light that eaed was trying to butter me up.

I don't think I can get to FD is scum.
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Corrik
09/18/18 11:30:29 PM
#32:


Obellisk posted...
nothing sticks out with me on tange and since ben joined his given me nothing but town vibes.

His first post reads like scum 101. Go find it and quote it. It's like the definition of a scumpost.

Besides that, yeah, I have nothing else to support he is scum.
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benjamin3740
09/18/18 11:33:15 PM
#33:


For scum to shoot Mzero, they would have to have been confident that Mzero is Mason. There were two people who hadn't claimed and could be mason. FD and Mzero. Would scum take the chance to shoot one of them and possibly miss mason while confirming the other as mason? FD is the only player who could have known that Mzero was mason if he is scum
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Obellisk
09/18/18 11:34:29 PM
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But if eaed had already outlived his usefulness, let's assume whatever he had left was not going to be usefull and eaed already had enough suspicion, again FD is smart enough to lynch a scummate to secure a win.

ben, fd is the only remaining claim.
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benjamin3740
09/18/18 11:36:32 PM
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Oh wait, no no. FD stated multiple times that he would be able to tell if the mason claim was lying or not, since he knew Red. So if scum thought that was genuine,they may have written him off.

One thing odd about FD is that he kept saying yesterday that he will most likely get night killed tonight. Why did you say that, FD? Almost comes off a's compensating for the last game when you were scum and never got night killed despite being "confirmed"
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Corrik
09/18/18 11:38:56 PM
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benjamin3740 posted...
For scum to shoot Mzero, they would have to have been confident that Mzero is Mason. There were two people who hadn't claimed and could be mason. FD and Mzero. Would scum take the chance to shoot one of them and possibly miss mason while confirming the other as mason? FD is the only player who could have known that Mzero was mason if he is scum

They could have thought the Mason claimed off.
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Corrik
09/18/18 11:39:46 PM
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benjamin3740 posted...
Oh wait, no no. FD stated multiple times that he would be able to tell if the mason claim was lying or not, since he knew Red. So if scum thought that was genuine,they may have written him off.

One thing odd about FD is that he kept saying yesterday that he will most likely get night killed tonight. Why did you say that, FD? Almost comes off a's compensating for the last game when you were scum and never got night killed despite being "confirmed"

I stated the same multiple times. It was basically beyond easy to confirm the Mason if you knew red outside the game.
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benjamin3740
09/18/18 11:41:15 PM
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Corrik posted...

As far as Tange, the most scummy post from that player slot was Benjamin's replacement post. When people make it outright stated how "if scum, but alas I am town" comments, they usually are scum mindset. Town usually doesn't make proclamations as of this.

I famously shot a player in the first hour of a CE game with a vig shot for talking this way and unsurprisingly they were not town.

It isn't how town talks. So, I mean, it is what it is.


I want to defend myself here, because while what you said is often true, it is a real thing that I would say as Town, and I think there's enough examples of me doing it before. Last game I was town (Chris music mafia) and stated more than once that I wished I had been scum that game. I find it a lot more fun
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Obellisk
09/18/18 11:43:40 PM
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but all that fd talk about red and knowing him would have all been wifom to the scum team assuming fd isnt on it, so they still take a blind shot at mzero hoping to hit Mason. hiwever if fd is scum, after all the vanilla claims he knew mzero was confirmed mason. And fd knows to get rid of confirmed town before end game
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Corrik
09/18/18 11:44:19 PM
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benjamin3740 posted...
Corrik posted...

As far as Tange, the most scummy post from that player slot was Benjamin's replacement post. When people make it outright stated how "if scum, but alas I am town" comments, they usually are scum mindset. Town usually doesn't make proclamations as of this.

I famously shot a player in the first hour of a CE game with a vig shot for talking this way and unsurprisingly they were not town.

It isn't how town talks. So, I mean, it is what it is.


I want to defend myself here, because while what you said is often true, it is a real thing that I would say as Town, and I think there's enough examples of me doing it before. Last game I was town (Chris music mafia) and stated more than once that I wished I had been scum that game. I find it a lot more fun

But, did you state it in literally your first post in this games? It is different musing about it and opening a game with it.
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Corrik
09/18/18 11:44:54 PM
#41:


Who did Mzero want to lynch yesterday? Sultan right?
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benjamin3740
09/18/18 11:44:55 PM
#42:


I think I lean toward Sbell as scum because Corrik's first few posts today sound pretty honest and genuine...and he's offering to get lynched first. But that is just so unlike Corrik that I actually don't trust it >_> Isn't the rule that if he's not pissing you off then he's scum, or something? The statement about conceding the game to a better town leader also sounds very unlike the Corrik I'm used to. But I want to know if other people think Town Corrik is capable of that kind of talk
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Corrik
09/18/18 11:47:30 PM
#43:


benjamin3740 posted...
I think I lean toward Sbell as scum because Corrik's first few posts today sound pretty honest and genuine...and he's offering to get lynched first. But that is just so unlike Corrik that I actually don't trust it >_> Isn't the rule that if he's not pissing you off then he's scum, or something? The statement about conceding the game to a better town leader also sounds very unlike the Corrik I'm used to. But I want to know if other people think Town Corrik is capable of that kind of talk

I act literally the same as scum or town. Ask Chris how much he was infuriated by me in the other game he was town, and I was scum.

Some of you all are just too sensitive in mafia. Literally nothing is said in a serious vein.

That said, weird post how you open up with you lean Sbell then only talk about my behavior entirely after.
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benjamin3740
09/18/18 11:49:01 PM
#44:


Corrik posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Corrik posted...

As far as Tange, the most scummy post from that player slot was Benjamin's replacement post. When people make it outright stated how "if scum, but alas I am town" comments, they usually are scum mindset. Town usually doesn't make proclamations as of this.

I famously shot a player in the first hour of a CE game with a vig shot for talking this way and unsurprisingly they were not town.

It isn't how town talks. So, I mean, it is what it is.


I want to defend myself here, because while what you said is often true, it is a real thing that I would say as Town, and I think there's enough examples of me doing it before. Last game I was town (Chris music mafia) and stated more than once that I wished I had been scum that game. I find it a lot more fun

But, did you state it in literally your first post in this games? It is different musing about it and opening a game with it.

I did not. It is a little different, but it all stems from the fact that I prefer scum. And i especially do when replacing. When I saw I was town it meant I actually had to read the game and figure out who is who, which is a sucky feeling when replacing in. I loved when I replaced into the Rick and Morty game as scum because I didn't even need to read up, just needed to charm everyone and say whatever it took to win. And I was hoping for that.
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Obellisk
09/18/18 11:52:44 PM
#45:


Today and Yesterday corrik was a lot calmer and a bit defeatist than all other days, but I'm coming to terms with the fact that I just cant fuxking read him and also this is my first game back in a year and even then I only played 1 game back then. so 2 games in 2 years, so even if I could have read him back then, it's been way too long to know what to look for.

the evidence I presented on corrik is really no better than the evidence I present on fd.

they are my final two suspects.

Ben, I am town. I dont think I can find a way to prove that to you so if I do get lynched I hope you are able to right the ship assuming you too are alive final day. hod help us all if both corrik and fd are there with you.
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Corrik
09/18/18 11:59:15 PM
#46:


benjamin3740 posted...
Corrik posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Corrik posted...

As far as Tange, the most scummy post from that player slot was Benjamin's replacement post. When people make it outright stated how "if scum, but alas I am town" comments, they usually are scum mindset. Town usually doesn't make proclamations as of this.

I famously shot a player in the first hour of a CE game with a vig shot for talking this way and unsurprisingly they were not town.

It isn't how town talks. So, I mean, it is what it is.


I want to defend myself here, because while what you said is often true, it is a real thing that I would say as Town, and I think there's enough examples of me doing it before. Last game I was town (Chris music mafia) and stated more than once that I wished I had been scum that game. I find it a lot more fun

But, did you state it in literally your first post in this games? It is different musing about it and opening a game with it.

I did not. It is a little different, but it all stems from the fact that I prefer scum. And i especially do when replacing. When I saw I was town it meant I actually had to read the game and figure out who is who, which is a sucky feeling when replacing in. I loved when I replaced into the Rick and Morty game as scum because I didn't even need to read up, just needed to charm everyone and say whatever it took to win. And I was hoping for that.

I am not sure you have shown me much in how you actually went back in read. Just a few token gestures. You said you read day 1 before even joining.
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benjamin3740
09/19/18 12:01:41 AM
#47:


God help us all if it's another final 3 where FD is scum. I kind of wrote him off after my initial reading through the game...

As for my last post, Corrik. I was about to say I liked the posts, but I thought harder about them and did not like certain aspects. So that was my train of thought in progress. I'm kind of unsure what my actual read of you is. Looking at it again, I'm Surprised that you would offer yourself up while not being entirely sure who is scum between me and Sbell. It's a defeatist perspective from you if you're town.
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Corrik
09/19/18 12:05:17 AM
#48:


My gut has been Sbell all game, but I would rather not put the game on my gut. Tbqh. And the longer these days draw out the more I keep second guessing myself. We had a game where like literally zero information was supplied by town and Plum making a horrendous mistake offered us a few lynches. Otherwise we could have easily have gotten swept here (Harris withstanding).
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benjamin3740
09/19/18 12:08:24 AM
#49:


Didnt Corrik mention sacrificially lynching himself yesterday too? I'm thinking that even if he's town that is entirely a lie and he knows it'd only make gullible players want to lynch him less.
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Obellisk
09/19/18 12:11:26 AM
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it's the kind of talk in my early days as town I would use in Hopes of swaying people to see I really am town.

these are not corriks early days.

however if he is truly frustrated town, perhaps I could see one reverting back. if I had to come in here today and fight with corrik all day I'd like to say I'd have been spewing that same appeal to the game. "lynch me now so you still have a chance to win it for town in end game"
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