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https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/everything-you-know-about-obesity-is-wrong/

the war on fat people must end
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For decades, the medical community has ignored mountains of evidence to wage a cruel and futile war on fat people, poisoning public perception and ruining millions of lives.

Closed the tab here, not even gonna read the article.
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For decades, the medical community has ignored mountains of evidence to wage a cruel and futile war on fat people, poisoning public perception and ruining millions of lives.

https://imgur.com/iyGEg17

a channel i'm subscribed to on youtube named kidbehindacamera gained diabeetus
and it sucks.

had to change my wording because it's not understandable and illegible 1/10.
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Right or wrong, people will still be assholes. It was never about health.
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The bigger way my weight affected my life was that I waited to do things because I thought fat people couldnt do them. She got her masters degree at 38, her Ph.D. at 55. I avoided so many activities where I thought my weight would discredit me.

What the hell lol

Vyrulisse posted...

mountains of evidence

lol
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Jessica has four kids. Every week is a birthday party or family reunion or swimming pool social, another opportunity to stand around platters of spare ribs and dinner rolls with her fellow moms.

Your conscious mind is busy the whole day with how many calories is in everything, what you can eat and whos watching, she says. After a few intrusive comments over the yearsshould you be eating that?she has learned to be careful, to perform the role of the impeccable fat person. She nibbles on cherry tomatoes, drinks tap water, stays on her feet, ignores the dessert end of the buffet.

Then, as the gathering winds down, Jessica and the other parents divvy up the leftovers. She wraps up burgers or pasta salad or birthday cake, drives her children home and waits for the moment when they are finally in bed. Then, when shes alone, she eats all the leftovers by herself, in the dark.

Its always hidden, she says. I buy a package of ice cream, then eat it all. Then I have to go to the store to buy it again. For a week my family thinks theres a thing of ice cream in the fridgebut its actually five different ones.

Jesus, woman, it's no wonder you're a fatass if you're eating five, I assume, half-gallons of ice cream in a week. Or a bunch of burgers, pasta, and cake.

That is the basic gist of the article. Fat, mostly, women who can't get their weight under control through a permanent change to their eating habits and are whining about the doctors who are telling them to lose some weight for their health.

They point out that it was only decades ago that Americans started getting fatter, but also tried to say the reasons they're fat are totally biological and irreversible. That doesn't really jive.
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eggcorn posted...

Vyrulisse posted...

mountains of evidence

lol

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eggcorn posted...

Vyrulisse posted...

mountains of evidence

lol

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I lol'd on the baby beluga.

The article is ridiculously long and rely mostly on anecdotes and whatever. I just stopped reading.

I mean i am fat, but it makes like losing weight is impossible. Like yeah some of the reasons the article said is legit, but it isnt impossible.
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tl;dr:

Science shows that diets rarely work and that fat shaming makes things worse.

CE: *proceeds to fat shame*
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scar the 1 posted...

CE: *proceeds to fat shame*

they don't agree with the article and/or don't care
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fat shaming is good
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@DocileOrangeCup

MakoReizei posted...

fat shaming is good

teasing is okay. shaming is dumb
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scar the 1 posted...

tl;dr:

Science shows that diets rarely work and that fat shaming makes things worse.

CE: *proceeds to fat shame*

It's a lifestyle issue

That should be resolved by people feeling so much shame from being fat that they prevent their offspring from being fat too except oh no now they have genetics to blame

certain people are gonna be riding motorized scooters at 25 for the foreseeable future
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Bok_Choi posted...

scar the 1 posted...

tl;dr:

Science shows that diets rarely work and that fat shaming makes things worse.

CE: *proceeds to fat shame*

It's a lifestyle issue

That should be resolved by people feeling so much shame from being fat that they prevent their offspring from being fat too except oh no now they have genetics to blame

certain people are gonna be riding motorized scooters at 25 for the foreseeable future

scar the 1 posted...

tl;dr:

Science shows that diets rarely work and that fat shaming makes things worse.

CE: *proceeds to fat shame*

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Right, and pining for obesity sympathy is totally the right path
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Bok_Choi posted...

Right, and pining for obesity sympathy is totally the right path

Not fat shaming is just basic human decency
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scar the 1 posted...

tl;dr:

Science shows that diets rarely work and that fat shaming makes things worse.

CE: *proceeds to fat shame*

Does this apply for exercise as well? Does that rarely work?
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What is the article getting at? It doesn't change the fact that people who eat unhealthy are going to become obese. Like, what do you expect doctors to say?

Kazi1212 posted...

scar the 1 posted...

tl;dr:

Science shows that diets rarely work and that fat shaming makes things worse.

CE: *proceeds to fat shame*

Does this apply for exercise as well? Does that rarely work?

The article didn't say, but we know that your weight is affected a lot more by what you eat than by exercise.
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Isnt HuffPo staffed by all overweight women?
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scar the 1 posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

scar the 1 posted...

tl;dr:

Science shows that diets rarely work and that fat shaming makes things worse.

CE: *proceeds to fat shame*

Does this apply for exercise as well? Does that rarely work?

The article didn't say, but we know that your weight is affected a lot more by what you eat than by exercise.

Hmm so diets rarely work, but your weight is affected a lot more by what you eat? Im not sure the logic makes sense here.
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Finally, Huffington Post gets something right.
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Kazi1212 posted...

Hmm so diets rarely work, but your weight is affected a lot more by what you eat? Im not sure the logic makes sense here.

I can understand the confusion. When they say that science shows diets rarely work, what they mean is that studies show most people don't manage to complete them (iirc the number cited was absurdly high, 95-98%). And even when people do lose weight, they're more likely to gain it all back. So going on a diet, like Atkins or something, is likely to fail.

This of course is separate from the fact that people eat too many calories. Honestly I thought the piece was quite interesting, especially if you skim the anecdotes. They're just there to make you feel more.
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scar the 1 posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

Hmm so diets rarely work, but your weight is affected a lot more by what you eat? Im not sure the logic makes sense here.

I can understand the confusion. When they say that science shows diets rarely work, what they mean is that studies show most people don't manage to complete them (iirc the number cited was absurdly high, 95-98%). And even when people do lose weight, they're more likely to gain it all back. So going on a diet, like Atkins or something, is likely to fail.

This of course is separate from the fact that people eat too many calories. Honestly I thought the piece was quite interesting, especially if you skim the anecdotes. They're just there to make you feel more.

Ah that makes sense, the way you phrased your initial post made it sound like dieting wasnt going to help fat people become healthier.
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scar the 1 posted...

tl;dr:

Science shows that diets rarely work and that fat shaming makes things worse.

CE: *proceeds to fat shame*

How come people started getting even fatter when fat shaming became un-PC and the fat-acceptance movement started gaining popularity?
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scar the 1 posted...

When they say that science shows diets rarely work, what they mean is that studies show most people don't manage to complete them (iirc the number cited was absurdly high, 95-98%). And even when people do lose weight, they're more likely to gain it all back. So going on a diet, like Atkins or something, is likely to fail.

It's a lifestyle issue
Committing to it would be easier if society enabled fitness instead of gluttony
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Kazi1212 posted...

Ah that makes sense, the way you phrased your initial post made it sound like dieting wasnt going to help fat people become healthier.

Yeah I realized that, lol. My bad
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Imagine thinking "People called me fat and that made me sad so I ate more so I am now fatter" is a valid excuse
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Bok_Choi posted...

Imagine thinking "People called me fat and that made me sad so I ate more so I am now fatter" is a valid excuse

food hits the pleasure center of your brain and when you feel bad it eases the pain
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catboy0_0 posted...

food hits the pleasure center of your brain and when you feel bad it eases the pain

so does:

engaging with people socially and physically
exercising
creating something
reading
shopping (altho this isn't an advised route)
playing video games
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Bok_Choi posted...

engaging with people socially and physically

not when they fat shame you it isn't
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catboy0_0 posted...

not when they fat shame you it isn't

yeah so who exactly is going around getting pointed at and laughed at for being fat in the United States of America

I'm a pretty hefty guy myself and all i get when I call myself fat is "OMG UR NOT FAT"
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Well.. I for one welcome our new ham planet sized overlords. The future is fat, resistance is futile!

I will begrudgingly accept my accursed fate as a thermodynamics bending wizard. But I won't like it, damn it!
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Bok_Choi posted...

Imagine thinking "People called me fat and that made me sad so I ate more so I am now fatter" is a valid excuse

Imagine justifying your preference of bullying
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scar the 1 posted...

Bok_Choi posted...

Imagine thinking "People called me fat and that made me sad so I ate more so I am now fatter" is a valid excuse

Imagine justifying your preference of bullying

it's not bullying, it's tough love
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Bok_Choi posted...

catboy0_0 posted...

not when they fat shame you it isn't

yeah so who exactly is going around getting pointed at and laughed at for being fat in the United States of America

I'm a pretty hefty guy myself and all i get when I call myself fat is "OMG UR NOT FAT"

nah actually your list is really good I'm just attacking your argument because I think people should show more compassion and sympathy not justify making people feel bad
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scar the 1 posted...

Bok_Choi posted...

Imagine thinking "People called me fat and that made me sad so I ate more so I am now fatter" is a valid excuse

Imagine justifying your preference of bullying

if having your body shape pointed out is bullying maybe fat people should, ironically, get some thicker skin
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Bok_Choi posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Bok_Choi posted...

Imagine thinking "People called me fat and that made me sad so I ate more so I am now fatter" is a valid excuse

Imagine justifying your preference of bullying

if having your body shape pointed out is bullying maybe fat people should, ironically, get some thicker skin

I've never really been fat shamed, at least not much.
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If you dont eat food you wont gain weight. Its unfortunate but a lot of those anecdotal people basically need to be starved to greater or lesser degrees.
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masticatingman posted...

If you dont eat food you wont gain weight.

but even if you don't eat too much you won't necessarily lose the weight
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catboy0_0 posted...

but even if you don't eat too much you won't necessarily lose the weight

calories in calories out

"you won't necessarily lose the weight" is one of those phrases that fat people like to dole out but it really means nothing

what the fuck does that mean, really? "won't necessarily"

can you just KINDA lose weight?
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Bok_Choi posted...

can you just KINDA lose weight?

I sometimes watch my diet very carefully and eat smaller portions and whatnot and not snack or eat junk but I still don't lose more than a couple pounds off my max and I just sort of stay stuck at the same weight
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catboy0_0 posted...

I sometimes watch my diet very carefully and eat smaller portions and whatnot and not snack or eat junk but I still don't lose more than a couple pounds off my max and I just sort of stay stuck at the same weight

there's the problem

listen buddy if ur stomach fat hangs over your waist it's gonna take a long time to see serious poundage coming off
otherwise some people have thyroid issues that make them gain weight easily/mess with their metabolism

if you cannot lose weight you should consult a physician
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Bok_Choi posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Bok_Choi posted...

Imagine thinking "People called me fat and that made me sad so I ate more so I am now fatter" is a valid excuse

Imagine justifying your preference of bullying

if having your body shape pointed out is bullying maybe fat people should, ironically, get some thicker skin

"Hey, we have a public health epidemic going on in the entire world. We should try and figure out how to fix it"
"Let's just shame people"
"We tried that and it didn't work, actually it made things worse"
"Well people should be different, let's shame them more"
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well part of the problem is my metabolism tanked in recent years. also the psych meds I take lower metabolism and cause weight gain as well. I'd say something more but it's a personal issue I'd rather not disclose on CE.
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