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UnfairRepresent 09/20/18 4:29:05 PM #1:	One of Minnesotas most violent and infamous sex offenders -- who has admitted to raping more than 60 women and who has quickly re-offended every time he's been previously released from prison -- is set to go free yet again, after more than 30 years behind bars. The Minnesota Supreme Court on Tuesday rejected a request by the states Department of Human Services to review the case of Thomas Ray Duvall, a serial rapist who admitted to brutally raping dozens of teenage girls in the 1970s and 1980s. The courts ruling comes two months after the state Court of Appeals ruled Duvall should be allowed to be released into the community after spending three decades behind bars The ruling ends a five-year legal battle over Duvall's future. The case set off a political firestorm over Minnesotas civil commitment system, which confines sex offenders indefinitely after their prison terms ends. I am honestly so devastated, I have no words at this moment, a family member of one of Duvalls victims after the courts ruling. We are terrified. The public needs to know how dangerous Duvall is. Duvall, now 63, committed his first known sexual assault in 1975, when he and two other males raped a 17-year-old girl. He re-offended three years later when he picked up a 17-year-old girl at the State Fair, promised to drive her home, and instead raped her. Within months of his release from prison for that crime, he attempted to force another woman into his car and threatened her with a knife. Over the next decade, Duvall was arrested and released multiple times for raping several other teenagers, including a 14-year-old and 15-year-old in 1982 Duvall was finally sentenced to his current term, 20 years in prison, after he was nabbed for raping a 17-year-old girl inside a Brooklyn Park apartment -- just 12 days after his release from jail in 1987. According to the Star Tribune, Duvall talked his way into the apartment a day after Christmas, bound the teenager with an electric cord and then repeatedly raped her for more than three hours while hitting her with a hammer. In 1991, Duvall was civilly committed as a psychopathic personality and sent to the Minnesota Sex Offender Program. Duvall was diagnosed as a sexual sadist and has admitted to more than 60 victims In June 2015, U.S. District Judge Donovan Frank ruled the states sex offender program was unconstitutional, calling it a punitive system that violates offenders rights to due process. Franks ruling was later overturned by a higher court, but signified a shift among specialists to be more willing to support offenders petitions for conditional release. Only three sex offenders had been discharged from the program in its 20-year history. Since then, the number has risen to 26. At a trial last spring, Duvall testified he had earned his right to a provisional discharge and had learned to control his violent sexual fantasies. At the same trial, three outside evaluators testified that Duvall should not be released from the program, arguing he remains fixated on deviant and violent sexual thoughts despite treatment. One of the evaluators, forensic psychologist Dr. James Alsdurf, described Duvall as obsessed with sex most of it violent, Meanwhile, the programs own staff described Duvall as a model detainee who was committed to his treatment program testimony the appeals court panel heavily relied on when saying he should be released into the community -- despite acknowledging that Duvall still has a risk of reoffending, given his violent history. Human Services Commissioner Emily Piper said in statement that she opposed Duvalls release out of a deep concern for public safety. Full Article: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/20/violent-minnesota-sex-offender-with-more-than-60-victims-to-be-released.html Yikes, even Jesus would struggle to forgive this guy. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:909133076] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote>One of Minnesotas most violent and infamous sex offenders -- who has admitted to raping more than 60 women and who has quickly re-offended every time he's been previously released from prison -- is set to go free yet again, after more than 30 years behind bars. The Minnesota Supreme Court on Tuesday rejected a request by the states Department of Human Services to review the case of Thomas Ray Duvall, a serial rapist who admitted to brutally raping dozens of teenage girls in the 1970s and 1980s. The courts ruling comes two months after the state Court of Appeals ruled Duvall should be allowed to be released into the community after spending three decades behind bars The ruling ends a five-year legal battle over Duvall's future. The case set off a political firestorm over Minnesotas civil commitment system, which confines sex offenders indefinitely after their prison terms ends. I am honestly so devastated, I have no words at this moment, a family member of one of Duvalls victims after the courts ruling. We are terrified. The public needs to know how dangerous Duvall is. Duvall, now 63, committed his first known sexual assault in 1975, when he and two other males raped a 17-year-old girl. He re-offended three years later when he picked up a 17-year-old girl at the State Fair, promised to drive her home, and instead raped her. Within months of his release from prison for that crime, he attempted to force another woman into his car and threatened her with a knife. Over the next decade, Duvall was arrested and released multiple times for raping several other teenagers, including a 14-year-old and 15-year-old in 1982 Duvall was finally sentenced to his current term, 20 years in prison, after he was nabbed for raping a 17-year-old girl inside a Brooklyn Park apartment -- just 12 days after his release from jail in 1987. According to the Star Tribune, Duvall talked his way into the apartment a day after Christmas, bound the teenager with an electric cord and then repeatedly raped her for more than three hours while hitting her with a hammer. In 1991, Duvall was civilly committed as a psychopathic personality and sent to the Minnesota Sex Offender Program. Duvall was diagnosed as a sexual sadist and has admitted to more than 60 victims In June 2015, U.S. District Judge Donovan Frank ruled the states sex offender program was unconstitutional, calling it a punitive system that violates offenders rights to due process. Franks ruling was later overturned by a higher court, but signified a shift among specialists to be more willing to support offenders petitions for conditional release. Only three sex offenders had been discharged from the program in its 20-year history. Since then, the number has risen to 26. At a trial last spring, Duvall testified he had earned his right to a provisional discharge and had learned to control his violent sexual fantasies. At the same trial, three outside evaluators testified that Duvall should not be released from the program, arguing he remains fixated on deviant and violent sexual thoughts despite treatment. One of the evaluators, forensic psychologist Dr. James Alsdurf, described Duvall as obsessed with sex most of it violent, Meanwhile, the programs own staff described Duvall as a model detainee who was committed to his treatment program testimony the appeals court panel heavily relied on when saying he should be released into the community -- despite acknowledging that Duvall still has a risk of reoffending, given his violent history. Human Services Commissioner Emily Piper said in statement that she opposed Duvalls release out of a deep concern for public safety. Full Article: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/20/violent-minnesota-sex-offender-with-more-than-60-victims-to-be-released.html Yikes, even Jesus would struggle to forgive this guy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dontIoseyourway 09/20/18 4:29:45 PM #2:	Death penalty. <cite>dontIoseyourway posted [p:909133127] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote>Death penalty.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hortanz 09/20/18 4:31:09 PM #3:	fair, next he's been rehabilitated by the criminal justice system so I fail to see what the problem is --- https://imgur.com/JFmtaHB <cite>hortanz posted [p:909133206] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote>fair, next he's been rehabilitated by the criminal justice system so I fail to see what the problem is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess 09/20/18 4:32:35 PM #4:	O/U 14 days before he "relapses" --- To err is human To arr is pirate <cite>Bloodychess posted [p:909133280] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote>O/U 14 days before he "relapses"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkTransient 09/20/18 4:33:53 PM #5:	60 fucking rapes?! How the FUCK has someone who's done that gotten ANY sentence other than either "death" or "life without parole"? --- http://www.facebook.com/loaocos/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAfJB3KYYDg <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:909133359] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote>60 fucking rapes?! How the FUCK has someone who's done that gotten ANY sentence other than either "death" or "life without parole"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HiddenLurker 09/20/18 4:34:37 PM #6:	hortanz posted... fair, next he's been rehabilitated by the criminal justice system so I fail to see what the problem is .... May heaven help us if you ever have children. --- [Insert tired meme here] <cite>HiddenLurker posted [p:909133413] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote><cite>hortanz posted...</cite> <quote>fair, next he's been rehabilitated by the criminal justice system so I fail to see what the problem is</quote> .... May heaven help us if you ever have children.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asagi_mode_gone 09/20/18 4:35:44 PM #7:	Bloodychess posted... O/U 14 days before he "relapses" I hate to say it But I'll give it 10 days, 16 before he's caught and he'll have 2+ new victims by then <cite>asagi_mode_gone posted [p:909133486] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bloodychess posted...</cite> <quote>O/U 14 days before he "relapses"</quote> I hate to say it But I'll give it 10 days, 16 before he's caught and he'll have 2+ new victims by then</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
clearaflagrantj 09/20/18 4:36:56 PM #8:	Fool me once, shame on you Fool me 60 times, shame on you <cite>clearaflagrantj posted [p:909133554] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote>Fool me once, shame on you Fool me 60 times, shame on you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KStateKing17 09/20/18 4:37:05 PM #9:	When your rape counts can be multiplied by 10 there's no way you should be able to see the outside of a prison. --- The 17th King of the State of K <cite>KStateKing17 posted [p:909133562] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote>When your rape counts can be multiplied by 10 there's no way you should be able to see the outside of a prison.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 09/20/18 4:37:21 PM #10:	DarkTransient posted... 60 fucking rapes?! How the FUCK has someone who's done that gotten ANY sentence other than either "death" or "life without parole"? Not just rapes. But violent rapes where he tied up and beat women with weapons while raping them. Then bragged about it. Literally Hollywood Movie level evil --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:909133584] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote>60 fucking rapes?! How the FUCK has someone who's done that gotten ANY sentence other than either "death" or "life without parole"?</quote> Not just rapes. But violent rapes where he tied up and beat women with weapons while raping them. Then bragged about it. Literally Hollywood Movie level evil</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkTransient 09/20/18 4:38:19 PM #11:	UnfairRepresent posted... DarkTransient posted... 60 fucking rapes?! How the FUCK has someone who's done that gotten ANY sentence other than either "death" or "life without parole"? Not just rapes. But violent rapes where he tied up and beat women with weapons while raping them. Then bragged about it. Literally Hollywood Movie level evil When you get to that quantity, it really makes no difference how violent they were or weren't. You should be dead or locked up for life either way. Heck, you should be LONG before reaching that quantity. If it were up to me, it'd be as soon as your rape count reaches 1 (inb4 some dumb joke about "what if someone commits half a rape"), but apparently that's "inhumane". --- http://www.facebook.com/loaocos/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAfJB3KYYDg <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:909133648] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote>60 fucking rapes?! How the FUCK has someone who's done that gotten ANY sentence other than either "death" or "life without parole"?</quote> Not just rapes. But violent rapes where he tied up and beat women with weapons while raping them. Then bragged about it. Literally Hollywood Movie level evil</quote> When you get to that quantity, it really makes no difference how violent they were or weren't. You should be dead or locked up for life either way. Heck, you should be LONG before reaching that quantity. If it were up to me, it'd be as soon as your rape count reaches 1 (inb4 some dumb joke about "what if someone commits half a rape"), but apparently that's "inhumane".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Banjo2553 09/20/18 4:38:58 PM #12:	How the fuck has he not been given a death sentence for all those offenses? --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>Banjo2553 posted [p:909133689] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote>How the fuck has he not been given a death sentence for all those offenses?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 09/20/18 4:39:15 PM #13:	KStateKing17 posted... When your rape counts can be multiplied by 10 there's no way you should be able to see the outside of a prison. Erm... 0 is a multiple of 10 dude. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:909133703] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote><cite>KStateKing17 posted...</cite> <quote>When your rape counts can be multiplied by 10 there's no way you should be able to see the outside of a prison.</quote> Erm... 0 is a multiple of 10 dude.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master_Bass 09/20/18 4:39:15 PM #14:	DarkTransient posted... 60 fucking rapes?! How the FUCK has someone who's done that gotten ANY sentence other than either "death" or "life without parole"? This, what the hell? This guy should never see the light of day and never should have had the opportunity to abuse that many women. --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. <cite>Master_Bass posted [p:909133704] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote>60 fucking rapes?! How the FUCK has someone who's done that gotten ANY sentence other than either "death" or "life without parole"?</quote> This, what the hell? This guy should never see the light of day and never should have had the opportunity to abuse that many women.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asagi_mode_gone 09/20/18 4:39:38 PM #15:	KStateKing17 posted... When your rape counts can be multiplied by 10 there's no way you should be able to see the outside of a prison. He's white There's black people and homeless people who stole under $100 and got harsher prison sentences than this guy for that single conviction, even if it was after several prior arrests Thing is, stealing $100 of marked up products still isn't anywhere near as horrible as literally raping. And that's not even going into the ones like that victim he hit with a hammer. <cite>asagi_mode_gone posted [p:909133725] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote><cite>KStateKing17 posted...</cite> <quote>When your rape counts can be multiplied by 10 there's no way you should be able to see the outside of a prison.</quote> He's white There's black people and homeless people who stole under $100 and got harsher prison sentences than this guy for that single conviction, even if it was after several prior arrests Thing is, stealing $100 of marked up products still isn't anywhere near as horrible as literally raping. And that's not even going into the ones like that victim he hit with a hammer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EnragedSlith 09/20/18 4:39:55 PM #16:	Kill him --- ultimate milf hunter https://imgur.com/lCEdce6 https://imgur.com/2N1Ezia https://imgur.com/ukJ6sPJ https://youtu.be/IDYaHvDiTr4 <cite>EnragedSlith posted [p:909133740] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote>Kill him</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 09/20/18 4:40:59 PM #17:	DarkTransient posted... When you get to that quantity, it really makes no difference how violent they were or weren't. I disagree and I think you would if you had a sister, girlfriend or daughter. There's a huge difference between like Date-rape, not stopping when she said no or even forceful rape compared to literally tying a girl up and smashing her about with a hammer while you rape her. They're all sick obviously but there's a scale here. Just like the funkytown Mexican murderers are worse in scale to a guy drunkenly hitting someone with a chair in a bar. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:909133805] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote> When you get to that quantity, it really makes no difference how violent they were or weren't. </quote> I disagree and I think you would if you had a sister, girlfriend or daughter. There's a huge difference between like Date-rape, not stopping when she said no or even forceful rape compared to literally tying a girl up and smashing her about with a hammer while you rape her. They're all sick obviously but there's a scale here. Just like the funkytown Mexican murderers are worse in scale to a guy drunkenly hitting someone with a chair in a bar.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
clearaflagrantj 09/20/18 4:41:54 PM #18:	UnfairRepresent posted... DarkTransient posted... 60 fucking rapes?! How the FUCK has someone who's done that gotten ANY sentence other than either "death" or "life without parole"? Not just rapes. But violent rapes where he tied up and beat women with weapons while raping them. Then bragged about it. Literally Hollywood Movie level evil He's the character that turns a good, wholesome father into the vigilante that takes the law into his own hands. And the vigilante ends up killing him like two thirds into the movie <cite>clearaflagrantj posted [p:909133858] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote>60 fucking rapes?! How the FUCK has someone who's done that gotten ANY sentence other than either "death" or "life without parole"?</quote> Not just rapes. But violent rapes where he tied up and beat women with weapons while raping them. Then bragged about it. Literally Hollywood Movie level evil</quote> He's the character that turns a good, wholesome father into the vigilante that takes the law into his own hands. And the vigilante ends up killing him like two thirds into the movie</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 09/20/18 4:42:17 PM #19:	asagi_mode_gone posted... There's black people and homeless people who stole under $100 What guy, black white or blue got 30 years in prison for stealing under $100? North Korea doesn't count. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:909133886] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote><cite>asagi_mode_gone posted...</cite> <quote> There's black people and homeless people who stole under $100</quote> What guy, black white or blue got 30 years in prison for stealing under $100? North Korea doesn't count.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KStateKing17 09/20/18 4:43:37 PM #20:	UnfairRepresent posted... KStateKing17 posted... When your rape counts can be multiplied by 10 there's no way you should be able to see the outside of a prison. Erm... 0 is a multiple of 10 dude. You know what the hell I meant >_> --- The 17th King of the State of K <cite>KStateKing17 posted [p:909133975] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KStateKing17 posted...</cite> <quote>When your rape counts can be multiplied by 10 there's no way you should be able to see the outside of a prison.</quote> Erm... 0 is a multiple of 10 dude.</quote> You know what the hell I meant >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LepartialJury 09/20/18 4:43:40 PM #21:	Minnesota, one of the first states to abolish capital punishment is well known for its lenience towards violent criminals https://kstp.com/news/david-hoffman-murder-victim-family-living-in-fear-after-killer-released-from-prison/4634835/ https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/bail-set-400k-police-officer-charged-killing-australian/story?id=53904213 https://www.inforum.com/news/crime-and-courts/4425257-northwest-minnesota-murderer-released-18-years-after-conviction?amp http://www.mankatofreepress.com/news/local_news/mother-who-murdered-daughter-released-from-prison/article_b4e6d9b0-4a64-11e8-9776-ffaa0bba3b43.html All stories this year --- Simple-straight-narrow <cite>LepartialJury posted [p:909133979] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote>Minnesota, one of the first states to abolish capital punishment is well known for its lenience towards violent criminals https://kstp.com/news/david-hoffman-murder-victim-family-living-in-fear-after-killer-released-from-prison/4634835/ https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/bail-set-400k-police-officer-charged-killing-australian/story?id=53904213 https://www.inforum.com/news/crime-and-courts/4425257-northwest-minnesota-murderer-released-18-years-after-conviction?amp http://www.mankatofreepress.com/news/local_news/mother-who-murdered-daughter-released-from-prison/article_b4e6d9b0-4a64-11e8-9776-ffaa0bba3b43.html All stories this year</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lebronwon 09/20/18 4:47:31 PM #22:	This is the result of Minnesota saying the sex offender program is unconstitutional iirc. Found this looks like he isn't the only rapist being released there are 25 others. http://www.startribune.com/serial-rapist-cleared-for-release-from-minn-sex-offender-program/493729601/ The ruling also signals a shift in the way judges and the state are handling sex offender cases. In June 2015, U.S. District Judge Donovan Frank ruled that Minnesotas sex offender program was unconstitutional, calling it a punitive system that violates offenders rights to due process. Although Franks ruling was later overturned by a higher court, specialists at the MSOP have been more willing to support offenders petitions and state judges have been less likely to override them. At the time of Franks ruling, only three offenders had been discharged from the MSOP in its 20-year history a number cited by attorneys and civil rights advocates as evidence that civil commitment was a de facto life sentence. Now the number who have been granted provisional discharge (or approved for release with certain conditions) has reached 26. Another three offenders have been released without any conditions, which is unprecedented. --- Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7 <cite>Lebronwon posted [p:909134200] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote>This is the result of Minnesota saying the sex offender program is unconstitutional iirc. Found this looks like he isn't the only rapist being released there are 25 others. http://www.startribune.com/serial-rapist-cleared-for-release-from-minn-sex-offender-program/493729601/ The ruling also signals a shift in the way judges and the state are handling sex offender cases. In June 2015, U.S. District Judge Donovan Frank ruled that Minnesotas sex offender program was unconstitutional, calling it a punitive system that violates offenders rights to due process. Although Franks ruling was later overturned by a higher court, specialists at the MSOP have been more willing to support offenders petitions and state judges have been less likely to override them. At the time of Franks ruling, only three offenders had been discharged from the MSOP in its 20-year history a number cited by attorneys and civil rights advocates as evidence that civil commitment was a de facto life sentence. Now the number who have been granted provisional discharge (or approved for release with certain conditions) has reached 26. Another three offenders have been released without any conditions, which is unprecedented.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 09/20/18 4:48:57 PM #23:	I saw this topic a few hours ago even though it seems like it was created more recently than that. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:909134278] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote>I saw this topic a few hours ago even though it seems like it was created more recently than that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asagi_mode_gone 09/20/18 4:51:50 PM #24:	UnfairRepresent posted... asagi_mode_gone posted... There's black people and homeless people who stole under $100 What guy, black white or blue got 30 years in prison for stealing under $100? North Korea doesn't count. Do you not remember 3 strike rules? www.sfgate.com/news/amp/Stealing-one-slice-of-pizza-results-in-life-3150629.php Then there's Ronald Washington who stole two $45 Jordan shirts but the store claimed they were on sale and normally $60 so it pushed the crime from petty theft at $90 to felony theft at $120. He's serving life. <cite>asagi_mode_gone posted [p:909134452] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>asagi_mode_gone posted...</cite> <quote> There's black people and homeless people who stole under $100</quote> What guy, black white or blue got 30 years in prison for stealing under $100? North Korea doesn't count.</quote> Do you not remember 3 strike rules? www.sfgate.com/news/amp/Stealing-one-slice-of-pizza-results-in-life-3150629.php Then there's Ronald Washington who stole two $45 Jordan shirts but the store claimed they were on sale and normally $60 so it pushed the crime from petty theft at $90 to felony theft at $120. He's serving life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkTransient 09/20/18 4:56:23 PM #25:	UnfairRepresent posted... DarkTransient posted... When you get to that quantity, it really makes no difference how violent they were or weren't. I disagree and I think you would if you had a sister, girlfriend or daughter. There's a huge difference between like Date-rape, not stopping when she said no or even forceful rape compared to literally tying a girl up and smashing her about with a hammer while you rape her. They're all sick obviously but there's a scale here. Just like the funkytown Mexican murderers are worse in scale to a guy drunkenly hitting someone with a chair in a bar. I mean, yes, they're worse. But when you hit that many rapes, there isn't exactly any punishment you could give out - not even if you disregard any notion of human rights - that would be fine for one but excessive for the other. They've gone way beyond the limit at which being proportionate is practical; they've both long since hit the point where there's nothing you can do but say "give him the most severe punishment we legally and physically can". --- http://www.facebook.com/loaocos/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAfJB3KYYDg <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:909134732] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote> When you get to that quantity, it really makes no difference how violent they were or weren't. </quote> I disagree and I think you would if you had a sister, girlfriend or daughter. There's a huge difference between like Date-rape, not stopping when she said no or even forceful rape compared to literally tying a girl up and smashing her about with a hammer while you rape her. They're all sick obviously but there's a scale here. Just like the funkytown Mexican murderers are worse in scale to a guy drunkenly hitting someone with a chair in a bar.</quote> I mean, yes, they're worse. But when you hit that many rapes, there isn't exactly any punishment you could give out - not even if you disregard any notion of human rights - that would be fine for one but excessive for the other. They've gone way beyond the limit at which being proportionate is practical; they've both long since hit the point where there's nothing you can do but say "give him the most severe punishment we legally and physically can".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 09/20/18 4:58:44 PM #26:	asagi_mode_gone posted... UnfairRepresent posted... asagi_mode_gone posted... There's black people and homeless people who stole under $100 What guy, black white or blue got 30 years in prison for stealing under $100? North Korea doesn't count. Do you not remember 3 strike rules? www.sfgate.com/news/amp/Stealing-one-slice-of-pizza-results-in-life-3150629.php Then there's Ronald Washington who stole two $45 Jordan shirts but the store claimed they were on sale and normally $60 so it pushed the crime from petty theft at $90 to felony theft at $120. He's serving life. You do realize his sentence was actually 5 years and he has become a public speaker? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDQbpZfCOgU" data-time=" Kinda proving my point --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:909134854] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote><cite>asagi_mode_gone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>asagi_mode_gone posted...</cite> <quote> There's black people and homeless people who stole under $100</quote> What guy, black white or blue got 30 years in prison for stealing under $100? North Korea doesn't count.</quote> Do you not remember 3 strike rules? www.sfgate.com/news/amp/Stealing-one-slice-of-pizza-results-in-life-3150629.php Then there's Ronald Washington who stole two $45 Jordan shirts but the store claimed they were on sale and normally $60 so it pushed the crime from petty theft at $90 to felony theft at $120. He's serving life.</quote> You do realize his sentence was actually 5 years and he has become a public speaker? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDQbpZfCOgU" data-time=" Kinda proving my point</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOlJollyRoger 09/20/18 5:02:21 PM #27:	Paging Dexter Morgan. Mr. Morgan your services are needed in isle 666 --- psn: googathepirate <cite>TheOlJollyRoger posted [p:909135089] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote>Paging Dexter Morgan. Mr. Morgan your services are needed in isle 666</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dontIoseyourway 09/20/18 5:03:11 PM #28:	UnfairRepresent posted... asagi_mode_gone posted... UnfairRepresent posted... asagi_mode_gone posted... There's black people and homeless people who stole under $100 What guy, black white or blue got 30 years in prison for stealing under $100? North Korea doesn't count. Do you not remember 3 strike rules? www.sfgate.com/news/amp/Stealing-one-slice-of-pizza-results-in-life-3150629.php Then there's Ronald Washington who stole two $45 Jordan shirts but the store claimed they were on sale and normally $60 so it pushed the crime from petty theft at $90 to felony theft at $120. He's serving life. You do realize his sentence was actually 5 years and he has become a public speaker? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDQbpZfCOgU" data-time=" Kinda proving my point Lol rekt <cite>dontIoseyourway posted [p:909135136] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>asagi_mode_gone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>asagi_mode_gone posted...</cite> <quote> There's black people and homeless people who stole under $100</quote> What guy, black white or blue got 30 years in prison for stealing under $100? North Korea doesn't count.</quote> Do you not remember 3 strike rules? www.sfgate.com/news/amp/Stealing-one-slice-of-pizza-results-in-life-3150629.php Then there's Ronald Washington who stole two $45 Jordan shirts but the store claimed they were on sale and normally $60 so it pushed the crime from petty theft at $90 to felony theft at $120. He's serving life.</quote> You do realize his sentence was actually 5 years and he has become a public speaker? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDQbpZfCOgU" data-time=" Kinda proving my point</quote> Lol rekt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asagi_mode_gone 09/20/18 5:03:22 PM #29:	UnfairRepresent posted... asagi_mode_gone posted... UnfairRepresent posted... asagi_mode_gone posted... There's black people and homeless people who stole under $100 What guy, black white or blue got 30 years in prison for stealing under $100? North Korea doesn't count. Do you not remember 3 strike rules? www.sfgate.com/news/amp/Stealing-one-slice-of-pizza-results-in-life-3150629.php Then there's Ronald Washington who stole two $45 Jordan shirts but the store claimed they were on sale and normally $60 so it pushed the crime from petty theft at $90 to felony theft at $120. He's serving life. You do realize his sentence was actually 5 years and he has become a public speaker? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDQbpZfCOgU" data-time=" Kinda proving my point Me, posts 2 cases You, says "he" which is singular And serving 5 years isn't the same as being sentenced to more then having it reduced on appeal Your inability to read isn't my issue <cite>asagi_mode_gone posted [p:909135150] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>asagi_mode_gone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>asagi_mode_gone posted...</cite> <quote> There's black people and homeless people who stole under $100</quote> What guy, black white or blue got 30 years in prison for stealing under $100? North Korea doesn't count.</quote> Do you not remember 3 strike rules? www.sfgate.com/news/amp/Stealing-one-slice-of-pizza-results-in-life-3150629.php Then there's Ronald Washington who stole two $45 Jordan shirts but the store claimed they were on sale and normally $60 so it pushed the crime from petty theft at $90 to felony theft at $120. He's serving life.</quote> You do realize his sentence was actually 5 years and he has become a public speaker? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDQbpZfCOgU" data-time=" Kinda proving my point</quote> Me, posts 2 cases You, says "he" which is singular And serving 5 years isn't the same as being sentenced to more then having it reduced on appeal Your inability to read isn't my issue</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 09/20/18 5:06:09 PM #30:	I responded to the only one you had a link for and the link was full of misinformation. I'll rephrase for you since you're an immensely dishonest human being. Show me a single case in the west of someone who spent 30 years behind bars for stealing less than $100. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:909135324] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote>I responded to the only one you had a link for and the link was full of misinformation. I'll rephrase for you since you're an immensely dishonest human being. Show me a single case in the west of someone who spent 30 years behind bars for stealing less than $100.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 09/20/18 5:07:33 PM #31:	they'll likely have a team of cops following him looking for any offense. --- People die when they are killed. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:909135417] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote>they'll likely have a team of cops following him looking for any offense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VandorLee 09/20/18 5:08:03 PM #32:	But was he racist? --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) <cite>VandorLee posted [p:909135448] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote>But was he racist?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wil_Knights 09/20/18 5:15:35 PM #33:	I suppose everyone deserves a 61st chance. --- SaGa Frontier is my favorite game series :) <cite>Wil_Knights posted [p:909135883] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote>I suppose everyone deserves a 61st chance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
orcus_snake 09/20/18 5:22:38 PM #34:	I mean, I understand how bad it must feel, but he also spent almsot one hundered thousand days in prison just the last time, he is old and decrepit so that impedes any maldoing a great deal, he rotted in prison and if he reformed he might be able to spend his last days in peace. --- "Warwick are you jungling" "No I'm standing by the wolves because I miss my family" <cite>orcus_snake posted [p:909136258] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote>I mean, I understand how bad it must feel, but he also spent almsot one hundered thousand days in prison just the last time, he is old and decrepit so that impedes any maldoing a great deal, he rotted in prison and if he reformed he might be able to spend his last days in peace.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 09/20/18 5:26:31 PM #35:	orcus_snake posted... I mean, I understand how bad it must feel, but he also spent almsot one hundered thousand days in prison just the last time, he is old and decrepit so that impedes any maldoing a great deal, he rotted in prison and if he reformed he might be able to spend his last days in peace. 60 maybe old but it certainly isn't decrepit and he is likely quite fit from his time in prison given exercise is one if the main activities for prisoners to stay occupied. My grandfather was fit as hell at 80 and could easily overpower young girls <cite>Axiom posted [p:909136496] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote><cite>orcus_snake posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, I understand how bad it must feel, but he also spent almsot one hundered thousand days in prison just the last time, he is old and decrepit so that impedes any maldoing a great deal, he rotted in prison and if he reformed he might be able to spend his last days in peace.</quote> 60 maybe old but it certainly isn't decrepit and he is likely quite fit from his time in prison given exercise is one if the main activities for prisoners to stay occupied. My grandfather was fit as hell at 80 and could easily overpower young girls</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkTransient 09/20/18 5:26:52 PM #36:	orcus_snake posted... I mean, I understand how bad it must feel, but he also spent almsot one hundered thousand days in prison just the last time, he is old and decrepit so that impedes any maldoing a great deal, he rotted in prison and if he reformed he might be able to spend his last days in peace. Haha, no. If he wanted to spend his last days in peace, he should've thought about that before committing 60 rapes. --- http://www.facebook.com/loaocos/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAfJB3KYYDg <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:909136516] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote><cite>orcus_snake posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, I understand how bad it must feel, but he also spent almsot one hundered thousand days in prison just the last time, he is old and decrepit so that impedes any maldoing a great deal, he rotted in prison and if he reformed he might be able to spend his last days in peace.</quote> Haha, no. If he wanted to spend his last days in peace, he should've thought about that before committing 60 rapes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HorrorJudasGoat 09/20/18 5:33:38 PM #37:	He's served his time. Meanwhile Snochia Moseley shot up a store today and will do no time. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6189673/Multiple-victims-shooting-Maryland.html <cite>HorrorJudasGoat posted [p:909136897] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote>He's served his time. Meanwhile Snochia Moseley shot up a store today and will do no time. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6189673/Multiple-victims-shooting-Maryland.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EdgeMaster 09/20/18 5:43:55 PM #39:	UnfairRepresent posted... I responded to the only one you had a link for and the link was full of misinformation. I'll rephrase for you since you're an immensely dishonest human being. Show me a single case in the west of someone who spent 30 years behind bars for stealing less than $100. Theres not a single person. I would bet my paycheck. Even being black (Read: having a public defender because you cant afford a good lawyer) doesnt get you 30 years for a petty shoplifting crime. Youd have to have a double digit IQ to actually hear such a claim and think its even remotely true. Not to say theres arent people with sub 80 IQs who frequent this forum and do believe such things. --- If you don't have anything nice to say, say it on the internet. ****poster Extraordinaire <cite>EdgeMaster posted [p:909137609] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>I responded to the only one you had a link for and the link was full of misinformation. I'll rephrase for you since you're an immensely dishonest human being. Show me a single case in the west of someone who spent 30 years behind bars for stealing less than $100.</quote> Theres not a single person. I would bet my paycheck. Even being black (Read: having a public defender because you cant afford a good lawyer) doesnt get you 30 years for a petty shoplifting crime. Youd have to have a double digit IQ to actually hear such a claim and think its even remotely true. Not to say theres arent people with sub 80 IQs who frequent this forum and do believe such things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asagi_mode_gone 09/20/18 7:12:55 PM #40:	UnfairRepresent posted... I responded to the only one you had a link for and the link was full of misinformation. I'll rephrase for you since you're an immensely dishonest human being. Show me a single case in the west of someone who spent 30 years behind bars for stealing less than $100. Ah, going straight to the ad hominems. Nice form. <cite>asagi_mode_gone posted [p:909142785] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>I responded to the only one you had a link for and the link was full of misinformation. I'll rephrase for you since you're an immensely dishonest human being. Show me a single case in the west of someone who spent 30 years behind bars for stealing less than $100.</quote> Ah, going straight to the ad hominems. Nice form.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/20/18 7:13:49 PM #41:	It happened in the past. We can't judge him by the past. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:909142840] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote>It happened in the past. We can't judge him by the past.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkTransient 09/20/18 7:14:13 PM #43:	asagi_mode_gone posted... UnfairRepresent posted... I responded to the only one you had a link for and the link was full of misinformation. I'll rephrase for you since you're an immensely dishonest human being. Show me a single case in the west of someone who spent 30 years behind bars for stealing less than $100. Ah, going straight to the ad hominems. Nice form. Says the guy going straight to the fallacy fallacy. --- http://www.facebook.com/loaocos/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAfJB3KYYDg <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:909142866] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote><cite>asagi_mode_gone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>I responded to the only one you had a link for and the link was full of misinformation. I'll rephrase for you since you're an immensely dishonest human being. Show me a single case in the west of someone who spent 30 years behind bars for stealing less than $100.</quote> Ah, going straight to the ad hominems. Nice form.</quote> Says the guy going straight to the fallacy fallacy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dontIoseyourway 09/20/18 7:14:31 PM #44:	DarkTransient posted... asagi_mode_gone posted... UnfairRepresent posted... I responded to the only one you had a link for and the link was full of misinformation. I'll rephrase for you since you're an immensely dishonest human being. Show me a single case in the west of someone who spent 30 years behind bars for stealing less than $100. Ah, going straight to the ad hominems. Nice form. Says the guy going straight to the fallacy fallacy. <cite>dontIoseyourway posted [p:909142881] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote><cite>asagi_mode_gone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>I responded to the only one you had a link for and the link was full of misinformation. I'll rephrase for you since you're an immensely dishonest human being. Show me a single case in the west of someone who spent 30 years behind bars for stealing less than $100.</quote> Ah, going straight to the ad hominems. Nice form.</quote> Says the guy going straight to the fallacy fallacy.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 09/20/18 7:17:41 PM #45:	yeah so this isn't cool --- https://i.imgtc.com/hB9W4JK.gif "Does our ruin benefit the earth? Does it help the grass to grow, the sun to shine? Is this darkness in you, too?" <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:909143065] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote>yeah so this isn't cool</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 09/20/18 7:17:45 PM #46:	DarkTransient posted... asagi_mode_gone posted... UnfairRepresent posted... I responded to the only one you had a link for and the link was full of misinformation. I'll rephrase for you since you're an immensely dishonest human being. Show me a single case in the west of someone who spent 30 years behind bars for stealing less than $100. Ah, going straight to the ad hominems. Nice form. Says the guy going straight to the fallacy fallacy. He's doing everything he can to distract from the fact no one has been behind bars for 30 years for stealing under $100. He was just lying and refuses to admit it --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:909143072] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote><cite>asagi_mode_gone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>I responded to the only one you had a link for and the link was full of misinformation. I'll rephrase for you since you're an immensely dishonest human being. Show me a single case in the west of someone who spent 30 years behind bars for stealing less than $100.</quote> Ah, going straight to the ad hominems. Nice form.</quote> Says the guy going straight to the fallacy fallacy.</quote> He's doing everything he can to distract from the fact no one has been behind bars for 30 years for stealing under $100. He was just lying and refuses to admit it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlephZero 09/20/18 7:18:30 PM #47:	i wonder what will happen when he gets out :thinking: --- "life is overrated" - Seiichi Omori 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:909143118] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote>i wonder what will happen when he gets out :thinking:</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkTransient 09/20/18 7:18:38 PM #48:	UnfairRepresent posted... DarkTransient posted... asagi_mode_gone posted... UnfairRepresent posted... I responded to the only one you had a link for and the link was full of misinformation. I'll rephrase for you since you're an immensely dishonest human being. Show me a single case in the west of someone who spent 30 years behind bars for stealing less than $100. Ah, going straight to the ad hominems. Nice form. Says the guy going straight to the fallacy fallacy. He's doing everything he can to distract from the fact no one has been behind bars for 30 years for stealing under $100. He was just lying and refuses to admit it Oh, I know. He'll eventually find an example where "theft under $100" was one of dozens of charges and claim that's his counterexample or something, too. --- http://www.facebook.com/loaocos/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAfJB3KYYDg <cite>DarkTransient posted [p:909143125] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkTransient posted...</cite> <quote><cite>asagi_mode_gone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>I responded to the only one you had a link for and the link was full of misinformation. I'll rephrase for you since you're an immensely dishonest human being. Show me a single case in the west of someone who spent 30 years behind bars for stealing less than $100.</quote> Ah, going straight to the ad hominems. Nice form.</quote> Says the guy going straight to the fallacy fallacy.</quote> He's doing everything he can to distract from the fact no one has been behind bars for 30 years for stealing under $100. He was just lying and refuses to admit it</quote> Oh, I know. He'll eventually find an example where "theft under $100" was one of dozens of charges and claim that's his counterexample or something, too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheDogfather 09/20/18 7:18:54 PM #49:	polishes sig --- I'd rather look at virtual horse balls than a post from UR. - __aCEr__ <cite>TheDogfather posted [p:909143137] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote>polishes sig</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dontIoseyourway 09/20/18 7:20:29 PM #50:	TheDogfather posted... polishes sig If you don't want to see UR posts, don't click on UR topics. It's that simple. <cite>dontIoseyourway posted [p:909143229] in Man who vi... [t:77023431]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheDogfather posted...</cite> <quote>polishes sig</quote> If you don't want to see UR posts, don't click on UR topics. It's that simple.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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