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juicebox4 09/23/18 4:51:56 AM #51:	FF6 is literally one of the worst in the series. only 1 2 3 are worse. --- Ding dong, bing bong GABBA GABBA HEY <cite>juicebox4 posted [p:909282033] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote>FF6 is literally one of the worst in the series. only 1 2 3 are worse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 09/23/18 4:53:40 AM #52:	juicebox4 posted... FF6 is literally one of the worst in the series. only 1 2 3 are worse. shut the fuck up --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:909282062] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>juicebox4 posted...</cite> <quote>FF6 is literally one of the worst in the series. only 1 2 3 are worse.</quote> shut the fuck up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lathissamus 09/23/18 4:53:42 AM #53:	juicebox4 posted... FF6 is literally one of the worst in the series. only 1 2 3 are worse. I thought so too before, but after giving it another chance, its design genius is apparent. I used to rank it in the bottom 4 but now it's definitely a top 5, and I'm only halfway through. 9, 7, and Tactics are still the GOATs tho --- https://imgur.com/olOXz6h https://imgur.com/kaFczn3 <cite>Lathissamus posted [p:909282064] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>juicebox4 posted...</cite> <quote>FF6 is literally one of the worst in the series. only 1 2 3 are worse.</quote> I thought so too before, but after giving it another chance, its design genius is apparent. I used to rank it in the bottom 4 but now it's definitely a top 5, and I'm only halfway through. 9, 7, and Tactics are still the GOATs tho</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 09/23/18 4:53:58 AM #54:	FF3 is better tan FF6 --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:909282069] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote>FF3 is better tan FF6</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lathissamus 09/23/18 4:55:03 AM #55:	catboy0_0 posted... FF3 is better tan FF6 i have ff3 on my phone should i give that another chance too? --- https://imgur.com/olOXz6h https://imgur.com/kaFczn3 <cite>Lathissamus posted [p:909282100] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>FF3 is better tan FF6</quote> i have ff3 on my phone should i give that another chance too?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 09/23/18 4:55:25 AM #56:	Lathissamus posted... catboy0_0 posted... FF3 is better tan FF6 i have ff3 on my phone should i give that another chance too? only if it's the NES version. the remake sucks --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:909282111] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lathissamus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>FF3 is better tan FF6</quote> i have ff3 on my phone should i give that another chance too?</quote> only if it's the NES version. the remake sucks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lathissamus 09/23/18 4:56:03 AM #57:	catboy0_0 posted... Lathissamus posted... catboy0_0 posted... FF3 is better tan FF6 i have ff3 on my phone should i give that another chance too? only if it's the NES version. the remake sucks nah it's the 3d one. why does that version suck? --- https://imgur.com/olOXz6h https://imgur.com/kaFczn3 <cite>Lathissamus posted [p:909282118] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lathissamus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>FF3 is better tan FF6</quote> i have ff3 on my phone should i give that another chance too?</quote> only if it's the NES version. the remake sucks</quote> nah it's the 3d one. why does that version suck?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 09/23/18 4:59:46 AM #58:	it's too fruity or fluffy frilly for me --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:909282191] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote>it's too fruity or fluffy frilly for me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 09/23/18 5:03:16 AM #59:	this theme is upbeat and badass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EVIF1Udqr0" data-time=" this version loses the punch and just doesn't do it for me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMAGtTmmx0s" data-time=" --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:909282253] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote>this theme is upbeat and badass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EVIF1Udqr0" data-time=" this version loses the punch and just doesn't do it for me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMAGtTmmx0s" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
juicebox4 09/23/18 5:03:55 AM #60:	catboy0_0 posted... juicebox4 posted... FF6 is literally one of the worst in the series. only 1 2 3 are worse. shut the fuck up no. it fucking sucks you shill --- Ding dong, bing bong GABBA GABBA HEY <cite>juicebox4 posted [p:909282268] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>juicebox4 posted...</cite> <quote>FF6 is literally one of the worst in the series. only 1 2 3 are worse.</quote> shut the fuck up</quote> no. it fucking sucks you shill</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 09/23/18 5:05:05 AM #61:	don't call me no shill man. FF3 NES is better than FF6. How can I be a shill if I promote a game that no one can pay for legitimately nor play anymore? --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:909282287] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote>don't call me no shill man. FF3 NES is better than FF6. How can I be a shill if I promote a game that no one can pay for legitimately nor play anymore?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
juicebox4 09/23/18 5:05:10 AM #62:	Lathissamus posted... juicebox4 posted... FF6 is literally one of the worst in the series. only 1 2 3 are worse. I thought so too before, but after giving it another chance, its design genius is apparent. I used to rank it in the bottom 4 but now it's definitely a top 5, and I'm only halfway through. 9, 7, and Tactics are still the GOATs tho VIII, X & XII TZA are the GOATs VII and IX come after Tactics is a spinoff, doesnt count --- Ding dong, bing bong GABBA GABBA HEY <cite>juicebox4 posted [p:909282289] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lathissamus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>juicebox4 posted...</cite> <quote>FF6 is literally one of the worst in the series. only 1 2 3 are worse.</quote> I thought so too before, but after giving it another chance, its design genius is apparent. I used to rank it in the bottom 4 but now it's definitely a top 5, and I'm only halfway through. 9, 7, and Tactics are still the GOATs tho</quote> VIII, X & XII TZA are the GOATs VII and IX come after Tactics is a spinoff, doesnt count</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
juicebox4 09/23/18 5:05:51 AM #63:	catboy0_0 posted... don't call me no shill man. FF3 NES is better than FF6. How can I be a shill if I promote a game that no one can pay for legitimately nor play anymore? okay fine idc FF6 sucks is my point --- Ding dong, bing bong GABBA GABBA HEY <cite>juicebox4 posted [p:909282304] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>don't call me no shill man. FF3 NES is better than FF6. How can I be a shill if I promote a game that no one can pay for legitimately nor play anymore?</quote> okay fine idc FF6 sucks is my point</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 09/23/18 5:06:30 AM #64:	FF3 NES is a criminally underrated game --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:909282315] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote>FF3 NES is a criminally underrated game</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 09/23/18 5:07:32 AM #65:	juicebox4 posted... catboy0_0 posted... don't call me no shill man. FF3 NES is better than FF6. How can I be a shill if I promote a game that no one can pay for legitimately nor play anymore? okay fine idc FF6 sucks is my point it kind of sucks in that they made edgar have no reason to use equipment --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:909282338] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>juicebox4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>don't call me no shill man. FF3 NES is better than FF6. How can I be a shill if I promote a game that no one can pay for legitimately nor play anymore?</quote> okay fine idc FF6 sucks is my point</quote> it kind of sucks in that they made edgar have no reason to use equipment</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lathissamus 09/23/18 5:07:48 AM #66:	juicebox4 posted... Lathissamus posted... juicebox4 posted... FF6 is literally one of the worst in the series. only 1 2 3 are worse. I thought so too before, but after giving it another chance, its design genius is apparent. I used to rank it in the bottom 4 but now it's definitely a top 5, and I'm only halfway through. 9, 7, and Tactics are still the GOATs tho VIII, X & XII TZA are the GOATs VII and IX come after Tactics is a spinoff, doesnt count I disagree but i can respect it --- https://imgur.com/olOXz6h https://imgur.com/kaFczn3 <cite>Lathissamus posted [p:909282345] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>juicebox4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lathissamus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>juicebox4 posted...</cite> <quote>FF6 is literally one of the worst in the series. only 1 2 3 are worse.</quote> I thought so too before, but after giving it another chance, its design genius is apparent. I used to rank it in the bottom 4 but now it's definitely a top 5, and I'm only halfway through. 9, 7, and Tactics are still the GOATs tho</quote> VIII, X & XII TZA are the GOATs VII and IX come after Tactics is a spinoff, doesnt count</quote> I disagree but i can respect it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
juicebox4 09/23/18 5:10:43 AM #67:	catboy0_0 posted... juicebox4 posted... catboy0_0 posted... don't call me no shill man. FF3 NES is better than FF6. How can I be a shill if I promote a game that no one can pay for legitimately nor play anymore? okay fine idc FF6 sucks is my point it kind of sucks in that they made edgar have no reason to use equipment those 2 brothers are the only worthwhile characters in that trash game Lathissamus posted... juicebox4 posted... Lathissamus posted... juicebox4 posted... FF6 is literally one of the worst in the series. only 1 2 3 are worse. I thought so too before, but after giving it another chance, its design genius is apparent. I used to rank it in the bottom 4 but now it's definitely a top 5, and I'm only halfway through. 9, 7, and Tactics are still the GOATs tho VIII, X & XII TZA are the GOATs VII and IX come after Tactics is a spinoff, doesnt count I disagree but i can respect it you're a good poster --- Ding dong, bing bong GABBA GABBA HEY <cite>juicebox4 posted [p:909282396] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>juicebox4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote>don't call me no shill man. FF3 NES is better than FF6. How can I be a shill if I promote a game that no one can pay for legitimately nor play anymore?</quote> okay fine idc FF6 sucks is my point</quote> it kind of sucks in that they made edgar have no reason to use equipment</quote> those 2 brothers are the only worthwhile characters in that trash game <cite>Lathissamus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>juicebox4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lathissamus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>juicebox4 posted...</cite> <quote>FF6 is literally one of the worst in the series. only 1 2 3 are worse.</quote> I thought so too before, but after giving it another chance, its design genius is apparent. I used to rank it in the bottom 4 but now it's definitely a top 5, and I'm only halfway through. 9, 7, and Tactics are still the GOATs tho</quote> VIII, X & XII TZA are the GOATs VII and IX come after Tactics is a spinoff, doesnt count</quote> I disagree but i can respect it</quote> you're a good poster</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 09/23/18 5:11:55 AM #68:	juicebox4 posted... those 2 brothers are the only worthwhile characters in that trash game I like it but I like 3 and 5 much more. job classes is awesome --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:909282430] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>juicebox4 posted...</cite> <quote>those 2 brothers are the only worthwhile characters in that trash game</quote> I like it but I like 3 and 5 much more. job classes is awesome</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
juicebox4 09/23/18 5:12:56 AM #69:	well yeah 5 is good, Butz is one of the GOAT MCs --- Ding dong, bing bong GABBA GABBA HEY <cite>juicebox4 posted [p:909282449] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote>well yeah 5 is good, Butz is one of the GOAT MCs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lathissamus 09/23/18 5:15:00 AM #70:	juicebox4 posted... well yeah 5 is good, Butz is one of the GOAT MCs Oh shit yeah i remember butz i never beat 5 but i did love the class system ~~rip galuf~~ --- https://imgur.com/olOXz6h https://imgur.com/kaFczn3 <cite>Lathissamus posted [p:909282502] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>juicebox4 posted...</cite> <quote>well yeah 5 is good, Butz is one of the GOAT MCs</quote> Oh shit yeah i remember butz i never beat 5 but i did love the class system rip galuf</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 09/23/18 6:16:06 AM #71:	I heard FF4 is good music tho. That boss theme --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:909283599] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote>I heard FF4 is good music tho. That boss theme</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
juicebox4 09/23/18 6:17:50 AM #72:	FFIV is great --- Ding dong, bing bong GABBA GABBA HEY <cite>juicebox4 posted [p:909283635] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote>FFIV is great</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 09/23/18 6:20:51 AM #73:	I don't think I'll ever understand people who say either VI or VII is great, but the other one is really bad. It's almost the same game. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:909283682] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote>I don't think I'll ever understand people who say either VI or VII is great, but the other one is really bad. It's almost the same game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
juicebox4 09/23/18 6:22:27 AM #74:	scar the 1 posted... I don't think I'll ever understand people who say either VI or VII is great, but the other one is really bad. It's almost the same game. lol. ITP: gameplay and characters dont exist? --- Ding dong, bing bong GABBA GABBA HEY <cite>juicebox4 posted [p:909283717] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think I'll ever understand people who say either VI or VII is great, but the other one is really bad. It's almost the same game.</quote> lol. ITP: gameplay and characters dont exist?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 09/23/18 6:23:00 AM #75:	juicebox4 posted... scar the 1 posted... I don't think I'll ever understand people who say either VI or VII is great, but the other one is really bad. It's almost the same game. lol. ITP: gameplay and characters dont exist? They're very very similar --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:909283721] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>juicebox4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think I'll ever understand people who say either VI or VII is great, but the other one is really bad. It's almost the same game.</quote> lol. ITP: gameplay and characters dont exist?</quote> They're very very similar</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 09/23/18 6:28:12 AM #76:	I'm play FF3 nes XD --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:909283828] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote>I'm play FF3 nes XD</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lathissamus 09/23/18 6:35:39 AM #77:	here's another question is setzer worth it? his slots seem weak --- https://imgur.com/olOXz6h https://imgur.com/kaFczn3 <cite>Lathissamus posted [p:909283963] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote>here's another question is setzer worth it? his slots seem weak</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 09/23/18 7:01:22 AM #78:	the death darts are kind of cool, but he's not really my fav party member --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:909284444] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote>the death darts are kind of cool, but he's not really my fav party member</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BTB 09/23/18 7:45:06 AM #79:	catboy0_0 posted... juicebox4 posted... FF6 is literally one of the worst in the series. only 1 2 3 are worse. shut the fuck up Ah, such well-stated points. Truly, you two are the great philosophers of your time. FF6 was a very poorly-designed game, yes. Squaresoft is very good at coming up with ideas, but they kind of drop the ball with implementation. They're more focused on meeting their gimmick quota than 2actually refining any concept they shit into existence. Microsoft has the same problem. Must have something to do with the name. --- "Good luck and good gaming." -Klaravoyia <cite>BTB posted [p:909285209] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>juicebox4 posted...</cite> <quote>FF6 is literally one of the worst in the series. only 1 2 3 are worse.</quote> shut the fuck up</quote> Ah, such well-stated points. Truly, you two are the great philosophers of your time. FF6 was a very poorly-designed game, yes. Squaresoft is very good at coming up with ideas, but they kind of drop the ball with implementation. They're more focused on meeting their gimmick quota than 2actually refining any concept they shit into existence. Microsoft has the same problem. Must have something to do with the name.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 09/23/18 7:45:45 AM #80:	Lathissamus posted... here's another question is setzer worth it? his slots seem weak Short answer: not really. Long answer: His slots are good if you can master the timing to get the effects you want. Some of the effects are very powerful, like an instant 100% kill on any enemies, including all bosses. And others are weak, like a total failure that does nothing at all. Beyond that, he is very mediocre until you get the Fixed Dice weapon. But they don't show up until the final dungeon of the game. His only noteworthy attribute is almost all of his weapons are long ranged, so you can put him in the back row without suffering damage loss. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:909285215] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lathissamus posted...</cite> <quote>here's another question is setzer worth it? his slots seem weak</quote> Short answer: not really. Long answer: His slots are good if you can master the timing to get the effects you want. Some of the effects are very powerful, like an instant 100% kill on any enemies, including all bosses. And others are weak, like a total failure that does nothing at all. Beyond that, he is very mediocre until you get the Fixed Dice weapon. But they don't show up until the final dungeon of the game. His only noteworthy attribute is almost all of his weapons are long ranged, so you can put him in the back row without suffering damage loss.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catboy0_0 09/23/18 7:52:35 AM #81:	BTB posted... catboy0_0 posted... juicebox4 posted... FF6 is literally one of the worst in the series. only 1 2 3 are worse. shut the fuck up Ah, such well-stated points. Truly, you two are the great philosophers of your time. FF6 was a very poorly-designed game, yes. Squaresoft is very good at coming up with ideas, but they kind of drop the ball with implementation. They're more focused on meeting their gimmick quota than 2actually refining any concept they shit into existence. Microsoft has the same problem. Must have something to do with the name. farts softly --- I obviously like you at least a little to even talk to you -cornman one day I hope to post a message so great it ends up in someones sig -Two_Dee <cite>catboy0_0 posted [p:909285353] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>BTB posted...</cite> <quote><cite>catboy0_0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>juicebox4 posted...</cite> <quote>FF6 is literally one of the worst in the series. only 1 2 3 are worse.</quote> shut the fuck up</quote> Ah, such well-stated points. Truly, you two are the great philosophers of your time. FF6 was a very poorly-designed game, yes. Squaresoft is very good at coming up with ideas, but they kind of drop the ball with implementation. They're more focused on meeting their gimmick quota than 2actually refining any concept they shit into existence. Microsoft has the same problem. Must have something to do with the name.</quote> farts softly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
luigi13579 09/23/18 8:37:53 AM #82:	scar the 1 posted... They're very very similar I agree that it's stupid to like one and hate the other, but I don't think they're that similar, aside from the basic story outline (famously parodied in that image). A few differences: - Graphics (7 has detailed pre-rendered backgrounds while 6 has tile-based backgrounds, 7 has polygonal character models and 6 sprites). - Unique character abilities in 6 are typically more in-depth than 7's Limit Breaks (e.g. Rages) and can be used at any time. Also, there are various ways to obtain new abilities in 6 (buying Tools, fighting on the Veldt, being hit by enemy attacks, etc.) as opposed to the same way for all characters in 7, with some of those being almost games in themselves (Rages, again). 6's characters (of which there are many more) are less replaceable generally. - Materia grant a variety of active and passive abilities (temporarily, when equipped) while Espers teach only magic (permanently, after gaining enough AP). Materia give temporary stat up/downgrades while equipped, Espers give permanent stat bonuses after each battle while equipped. Materia can level up and change (and be duplicated and sold for Gil) while Espers are static. - WoB and WoR (and what happens in between). 7's world changes of course, but not to anywhere near the same extent. - 7's setting is more modern by our standards (6's is more steampunk while electricity is widespread in 7's, due to Shinra). Other aspects of the game/world are changed accordingly (e.g. the Empire being replaced by a large corporation, environmentalism / terrorism, and other more modern concepts). They're just the most obvious ones I can come up with. What I will say is that 6 and 7 are more similar than most other FF games are to each other (after 5 anyway), but they still have quite a few differences. <cite>luigi13579 posted [p:909286360] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>They're very very similar</quote> I agree that it's stupid to like one and hate the other, but I don't think they're that similar, aside from the basic story outline (famously parodied in that image). A few differences: - Graphics (7 has detailed pre-rendered backgrounds while 6 has tile-based backgrounds, 7 has polygonal character models and 6 sprites). - Unique character abilities in 6 are typically more in-depth than 7's Limit Breaks (e.g. Rages) and can be used at any time. Also, there are various ways to obtain new abilities in 6 (buying Tools, fighting on the Veldt, being hit by enemy attacks, etc.) as opposed to the same way for all characters in 7, with some of those being almost games in themselves (Rages, again). 6's characters (of which there are many more) are less replaceable generally. - Materia grant a variety of active and passive abilities (temporarily, when equipped) while Espers teach only magic (permanently, after gaining enough AP). Materia give temporary stat up/downgrades while equipped, Espers give permanent stat bonuses after each battle while equipped. Materia can level up and change (and be duplicated and sold for Gil) while Espers are static. - WoB and WoR (and what happens in between). 7's world changes of course, but not to anywhere near the same extent. - 7's setting is more modern by our standards (6's is more steampunk while electricity is widespread in 7's, due to Shinra). Other aspects of the game/world are changed accordingly (e.g. the Empire being replaced by a large corporation, environmentalism / terrorism, and other more modern concepts). They're just the most obvious ones I can come up with. What I will say is that 6 and 7 are more similar than most other FF games are to each other (after 5 anyway), but they still have quite a few differences.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alpha218 09/23/18 9:14:26 AM #83:	No character is bad imo because every character has their strengths and the Esper system kinda breaks magic because its so easy to get the spells you want on everyone After a World-changing event youre going to have Setzer in your party at least for a little bit. --- I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite user on the Citadel. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1349-mario Now Playing: nothing :( <cite>Alpha218 posted [p:909287318] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote>No character is bad imo because every character has their strengths and the Esper system kinda breaks magic because its so easy to get the spells you want on everyone After a World-changing event youre going to have Setzer in your party at least for a little bit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 09/23/18 9:26:42 AM #84:	luigi13579 posted... scar the 1 posted... They're very very similar I agree that it's stupid to like one and hate the other, but I don't think they're that similar, aside from the basic story outline (famously parodied in that image). A few differences: - Graphics (7 has detailed pre-rendered backgrounds while 6 has tile-based backgrounds, 7 has polygonal character models and 6 sprites). - Unique character abilities in 6 are typically more in-depth than 7's Limit Breaks (e.g. Rages) and can be used at any time. Also, there are various ways to obtain new abilities in 6 (buying Tools, fighting on the Veldt, being hit by enemy attacks, etc.) as opposed to the same way for all characters in 7, with some of those being almost games in themselves (Rages, again). 6's characters (of which there are many more) are less replaceable generally. - Materia grant a variety of active and passive abilities (temporarily, when equipped) while Espers teach only magic (permanently, after gaining enough AP). Materia give temporary stat up/downgrades while equipped, Espers give permanent stat bonuses after each battle while equipped. Materia can level up and change (and be duplicated and sold for Gil) while Espers are static. - WoB and WoR (and what happens in between). 7's world changes of course, but not to anywhere near the same extent. - 7's setting is more modern by our standards (6's is more steampunk while electricity is widespread in 7's, due to Shinra). Other aspects of the game/world are changed accordingly (e.g. the Empire being replaced by a large corporation, environmentalism / terrorism, and other more modern concepts). They're just the most obvious ones I can come up with. What I will say is that 6 and 7 are more similar than most other FF games are to each other (after 5 anyway), but they still have quite a few differences. I acknowledge that there are differences. Saying that they're the same game is hyperbolic. Some of the things you mention, though, I consider to be tweaks on the same fundamental concept. Look: - Unique character abilities. Yeah, they're more different in VI, however Limit Breaks are instead a lot more accessible in VII. You get a Limit Break in almost every battle in VII (especially if you use Hypers), so they make out significant character differences. To a (much) lesser extent, in VII the ultimate weapons have unique properties that in theory emphasize different things. But that's more of a parenthesis since it's not very well implemented. - Materia vs espers. Yeah, these are different, but here I honestly consider the materia system a tweak on the esper thing. It seems really derivative, but more flexible (you don't have to grind a bunch to get a magic on a new character, just change equipment). So yeah, there are naturally differences. But like you say I definitely think they are the most similar FFs out of any FF pair. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:909287680] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>luigi13579 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>They're very very similar</quote> I agree that it's stupid to like one and hate the other, but I don't think they're that similar, aside from the basic story outline (famously parodied in that image). A few differences: - Graphics (7 has detailed pre-rendered backgrounds while 6 has tile-based backgrounds, 7 has polygonal character models and 6 sprites). - Unique character abilities in 6 are typically more in-depth than 7's Limit Breaks (e.g. Rages) and can be used at any time. Also, there are various ways to obtain new abilities in 6 (buying Tools, fighting on the Veldt, being hit by enemy attacks, etc.) as opposed to the same way for all characters in 7, with some of those being almost games in themselves (Rages, again). 6's characters (of which there are many more) are less replaceable generally. - Materia grant a variety of active and passive abilities (temporarily, when equipped) while Espers teach only magic (permanently, after gaining enough AP). Materia give temporary stat up/downgrades while equipped, Espers give permanent stat bonuses after each battle while equipped. Materia can level up and change (and be duplicated and sold for Gil) while Espers are static. - WoB and WoR (and what happens in between). 7's world changes of course, but not to anywhere near the same extent. - 7's setting is more modern by our standards (6's is more steampunk while electricity is widespread in 7's, due to Shinra). Other aspects of the game/world are changed accordingly (e.g. the Empire being replaced by a large corporation, environmentalism / terrorism, and other more modern concepts). They're just the most obvious ones I can come up with. What I will say is that 6 and 7 are more similar than most other FF games are to each other (after 5 anyway), but they still have quite a few differences.</quote> I acknowledge that there are differences. Saying that they're the same game is hyperbolic. Some of the things you mention, though, I consider to be tweaks on the same fundamental concept. Look: - Unique character abilities. Yeah, they're more different in VI, however Limit Breaks are instead a lot more accessible in VII. You get a Limit Break in almost every battle in VII (especially if you use Hypers), so they make out significant character differences. To a (much) lesser extent, in VII the ultimate weapons have unique properties that in theory emphasize different things. But that's more of a parenthesis since it's not very well implemented. - Materia vs espers. Yeah, these are different, but here I honestly consider the materia system a tweak on the esper thing. It seems really derivative, but more flexible (you don't have to grind a bunch to get a magic on a new character, just change equipment). So yeah, there are naturally differences. But like you say I definitely think they are the most similar FFs out of any FF pair.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BTB 09/23/18 10:06:19 AM #85:	Questionmarktarius posted... BTB posted... I wrote an article the other month about game design as sort of a promotional tie-in to the upcoming 1.10 release of Brave New World... which is looking to be the biggest one by FAR yet: http://btb2.free.fr/index.html#post072818 Vanish + Doom is "bad"? Um... yes? More accurately, it's a bug. The code does not handle death as a status very well, and it requires a specific override to respect enemy immunity to it. Unfortunately, certain functions will bypass even this override, resulting in the Vanish/Doom bug. A much lesser-known example would be enemies with "special" attacks that set the death status (i.e. the ChaosDrgn in vanilla), which also fail to respect death immunity. The fact that such attacks are very uncommon AND never appear in a rage leads me to believe that Squaresoft was at least partially aware of this problem, but that's just speculation. --- "Good luck and good gaming." -Klaravoyia <cite>BTB posted [p:909288945] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BTB posted...</cite> <quote>I wrote an article the other month about game design as sort of a promotional tie-in to the upcoming 1.10 release of Brave New World... which is looking to be the biggest one by FAR yet: http://btb2.free.fr/index.html#post072818</quote> Vanish + Doom is "bad"?</quote> Um... yes? More accurately, it's a bug. The code does not handle death as a status very well, and it requires a specific override to respect enemy immunity to it. Unfortunately, certain functions will bypass even this override, resulting in the Vanish/Doom bug. A much lesser-known example would be enemies with "special" attacks that set the death status (i.e. the ChaosDrgn in vanilla), which also fail to respect death immunity. The fact that such attacks are very uncommon AND never appear in a rage leads me to believe that Squaresoft was at least partially aware of this problem, but that's just speculation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BTB 09/23/18 10:10:49 AM #86:	Allanon23 posted... BTB posted... I wrote an article the other month about game design as sort of a promotional tie-in to the upcoming 1.10 release of Brave New World... which is looking to be the biggest one by FAR yet: http://btb2.free.fr/index.html#post072818 Welp, looks like I'll have to do another run in it then. I look forward to it, man. Enjoyed your run through... what was it, 1.6? A LOT has changed since then. --- "Good luck and good gaming." -Klaravoyia <cite>BTB posted [p:909289115] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>Allanon23 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BTB posted...</cite> <quote>I wrote an article the other month about game design as sort of a promotional tie-in to the upcoming 1.10 release of Brave New World... which is looking to be the biggest one by FAR yet: http://btb2.free.fr/index.html#post072818 </quote> Welp, looks like I'll have to do another run in it then.</quote> I look forward to it, man. Enjoyed your run through... what was it, 1.6? A LOT has changed since then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lathissamus 09/24/18 2:59:54 AM #87:	The continent just broke out of the ground. Shits getting intense. --- https://imgur.com/olOXz6h https://imgur.com/kaFczn3 <cite>Lathissamus posted [p:909341078] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote>The continent just broke out of the ground. Shits getting intense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lathissamus 09/24/18 3:00:21 AM #88:	~~RIP General Leo~~ --- https://imgur.com/olOXz6h https://imgur.com/kaFczn3 <cite>Lathissamus posted [p:909341092] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote>RIP General Leo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/24/18 3:03:13 AM #89:	Lathissamus posted... The continent just broke out of the ground. Shits getting intense. This is when you farm genji gloves. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:909341162] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lathissamus posted...</cite> <quote>The continent just broke out of the ground. Shits getting intense.</quote> This is when you farm genji gloves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lathissamus 09/24/18 5:46:12 AM #90:	Questionmarktarius posted... Lathissamus posted... The continent just broke out of the ground. Shits getting intense. This is when you farm genji gloves. how? --- https://imgur.com/olOXz6h https://imgur.com/kaFczn3 <cite>Lathissamus posted [p:909344225] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lathissamus posted...</cite> <quote>The continent just broke out of the ground. Shits getting intense.</quote> This is when you farm genji gloves.</quote> how?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 09/24/18 5:53:20 AM #91:	Lathissamus posted... Questionmarktarius posted... Lathissamus posted... The continent just broke out of the ground. Shits getting intense. This is when you farm genji gloves. how? There is an enemy called Dragon that you can encounter on the Floating Continent. Locke can steal Genji Gloves from them. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:909344350] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lathissamus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lathissamus posted...</cite> <quote>The continent just broke out of the ground. Shits getting intense.</quote> This is when you farm genji gloves.</quote> how?</quote> There is an enemy called Dragon that you can encounter on the Floating Continent. Locke can steal Genji Gloves from them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lathissamus 09/24/18 7:10:25 AM #92:	Esrac posted... Lathissamus posted... Questionmarktarius posted... Lathissamus posted... The continent just broke out of the ground. Shits getting intense. This is when you farm genji gloves. how? There is an enemy called Dragon that you can encounter on the Floating Continent. Locke can steal Genji Gloves from them. Good thing I save stated there --- https://imgur.com/olOXz6h https://imgur.com/kaFczn3 <cite>Lathissamus posted [p:909345850] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lathissamus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lathissamus posted...</cite> <quote>The continent just broke out of the ground. Shits getting intense.</quote> This is when you farm genji gloves.</quote> how?</quote> There is an enemy called Dragon that you can encounter on the Floating Continent. Locke can steal Genji Gloves from them.</quote> Good thing I save stated there</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/24/18 10:29:29 AM #93:	Also when you're given the option to wait for someone before leaving, do it. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:909352127] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote>Also when you're given the option to wait for someone before leaving, do it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tiornys 09/24/18 11:14:01 AM #94:	Lathissamus posted... Esrac posted... Lathissamus posted... Questionmarktarius posted... Lathissamus posted... The continent just broke out of the ground. Shits getting intense. This is when you farm genji gloves. how? There is an enemy called Dragon that you can encounter on the Floating Continent. Locke can steal Genji Gloves from them. Good thing I save stated there Just want to say that I wholly disagree with the idea of spending hours farming for Genji Gloves. Getting 1 or 2 extra is more than enough. <cite>tiornys posted [p:909354162] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lathissamus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lathissamus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lathissamus posted...</cite> <quote>The continent just broke out of the ground. Shits getting intense.</quote> This is when you farm genji gloves.</quote> how?</quote> There is an enemy called Dragon that you can encounter on the Floating Continent. Locke can steal Genji Gloves from them.</quote> Good thing I save stated there</quote> Just want to say that I wholly disagree with the idea of spending hours farming for Genji Gloves. Getting 1 or 2 extra is more than enough.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/24/18 12:23:57 PM #95:	tiornys posted... Lathissamus posted... Esrac posted... Lathissamus posted... Questionmarktarius posted... Lathissamus posted... The continent just broke out of the ground. Shits getting intense. This is when you farm genji gloves. how? There is an enemy called Dragon that you can encounter on the Floating Continent. Locke can steal Genji Gloves from them. Good thing I save stated there Just want to say that I wholly disagree with the idea of spending hours farming for Genji Gloves. Getting 1 or 2 extra is more than enough. It's just too bad there's no way to farm offerings, on SNES anyway. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:909358024] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>tiornys posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lathissamus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Esrac posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lathissamus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lathissamus posted...</cite> <quote>The continent just broke out of the ground. Shits getting intense.</quote> This is when you farm genji gloves.</quote> how?</quote> There is an enemy called Dragon that you can encounter on the Floating Continent. Locke can steal Genji Gloves from them.</quote> Good thing I save stated there</quote> Just want to say that I wholly disagree with the idea of spending hours farming for Genji Gloves. Getting 1 or 2 extra is more than enough.</quote> It's just too bad there's no way to farm offerings, on SNES anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lathissamus 09/24/18 6:51:34 PM #96:	So I tried farming them for an hour, barely encounterd and dragons and the few that I did only had potions so I said screw it. Just gonna go ahead and move the story forward --- https://imgur.com/olOXz6h https://imgur.com/kaFczn3 <cite>Lathissamus posted [p:909379662] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote>So I tried farming them for an hour, barely encounterd and dragons and the few that I did only had potions so I said screw it. Just gonna go ahead and move the story forward</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lathissamus 09/24/18 6:54:01 PM #97:	~~yo!!! Gestahl's death was brutal kefka is a madman~~ --- https://imgur.com/olOXz6h https://imgur.com/kaFczn3 <cite>Lathissamus posted [p:909379783] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote>yo!!! Gestahl's death was brutal kefka is a madman</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 09/24/18 6:54:05 PM #98:	You only need one Genji Glove because you only get one offering. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:909379790] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote>You only need one Genji Glove because you only get one offering.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lathissamus 09/24/18 7:28:44 PM #99:	Celes :( --- https://imgur.com/olOXz6h https://imgur.com/kaFczn3 <cite>Lathissamus posted [p:909381694] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote>Celes :(</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/24/18 7:30:50 PM #100:	Lathissamus posted... Celes :( ...you gotta get the fast fish. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:909381817] in Got a SNES... [t:77023791]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lathissamus posted...</cite> <quote>Celes :(</quote> ...you gotta get the fast fish.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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