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Le__seul_dieu__
09/23/18 5:06:00 AM
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surely drawing nude/sexual images of little girls, even as cartoons, should be classified as illegal, yes?
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Garioshi
09/23/18 5:09:50 AM
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It's a victimless crime, for all intents and purposes, unless you want to roll out the Thought Police.
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EliteLevel
09/23/18 5:10:45 AM
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Trump's America.
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catboy0_0
09/23/18 5:10:55 AM
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I'm not entirely sure why it should be illegal
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Rika_Furude
09/23/18 5:11:29 AM
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@iclockwork
@thelovefist

You two/one always seem to have someone to input on this topic but then back out before saying anything. Want to add your feelings here and now to this topic?
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brotrrwinner
09/23/18 5:11:50 AM
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Should a drawing of someone committing murder be illegal as well?
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Le__seul_dieu__
09/23/18 5:13:33 AM
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Garioshi posted...
It's a victimless crime, for all intents and purposes, unless you want to roll out the Thought Police.

just because there is no victim doesn't mean that it can't promote harmful ideas.
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southcoast09
09/23/18 5:17:26 AM
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Everyone is embarrassed to admit that they know what it is, I guess.
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MangaFan462
09/23/18 5:33:53 AM
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Its just cartoons?

This is as dumb as the bitches getting mad at the HandMaids Tale slutty Halloween costume.
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catboy0_0
09/23/18 5:34:30 AM
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southcoast09 posted...
Everyone is embarrassed to admit that they know what it is, I guess.

that's the most insightful comment I'ev ever seen you make
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Lorenzo_2003
09/23/18 5:36:42 AM
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Words0fJokeAc posted...
Le__seul_dieu__ posted...
Garioshi posted...
It's a victimless crime, for all intents and purposes, unless you want to roll out the Thought Police.

just because there is no victim doesn't mean that it can't promote harmful ideas.

Agreed. Let's also ban slashers and bands based on serial killers. On that note why isn't being a Nazi and transphobic criminalized?


We should ban video games. It's very obvious that they are a big reason why we have so much violence in the world.
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Le__seul_dieu__
09/23/18 5:36:50 AM
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MangaFan462 posted...
Its just cartoons?

This is as dumb as the bitches getting mad at the HandMaids Tale slutty Halloween costume.

imagine if someone saw one of your 7-year-old girl relatives and decided, "hmm I'll make some lolicon based on this person's appearance". would you still think that its just cartoons? frankly, it is disgusting that people can support this, and lines need to be drawn on what is and what isn't allowed as art.
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PtlessAgmnts
09/23/18 5:42:17 AM
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Le__seul_dieu__ posted...
MangaFan462 posted...
Its just cartoons?

This is as dumb as the bitches getting mad at the HandMaids Tale slutty Halloween costume.

imagine if someone saw one of your 7-year-old girl relatives and decided, "hmm I'll make some lolicon based on this person's appearance". would you still think that its just cartoons? frankly, it is disgusting that people can support this, and lines need to be drawn on what is and what isn't allowed as art.


Imagine thinking some neckbeard drawing misty having sex is anywhere near as bad as a congressional candidate making an entire forum dedicated to how he wants to rape children and saying children are sex slaves
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b10916de4b0d5e89e1e4824
and the literal president advocating sexual assault. It's called free speech, no matter how much you like it or not.
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Garioshi
09/23/18 6:16:03 AM
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PtlessAgmnts posted...
Le__seul_dieu__ posted...
MangaFan462 posted...
Its just cartoons?

This is as dumb as the bitches getting mad at the HandMaids Tale slutty Halloween costume.

imagine if someone saw one of your 7-year-old girl relatives and decided, "hmm I'll make some lolicon based on this person's appearance". would you still think that its just cartoons? frankly, it is disgusting that people can support this, and lines need to be drawn on what is and what isn't allowed as art.


Imagine thinking some neckbeard drawing misty having sex is anywhere near as bad as a congressional candidate making an entire forum dedicated to how he wants to rape children and saying children are sex slaves
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b10916de4b0d5e89e1e4824
and the literal president advocating sexual assault. It's called free speech, no matter how much you like it or not.

yo what the fuck
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iClockwork
09/23/18 6:17:42 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Want to add your feelings here and now to this topic?

Meltdown initiated
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PtlessAgmnts
09/23/18 6:20:56 AM
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Garioshi posted...
PtlessAgmnts posted...
Le__seul_dieu__ posted...
MangaFan462 posted...
Its just cartoons?

This is as dumb as the bitches getting mad at the HandMaids Tale slutty Halloween costume.

imagine if someone saw one of your 7-year-old girl relatives and decided, "hmm I'll make some lolicon based on this person's appearance". would you still think that its just cartoons? frankly, it is disgusting that people can support this, and lines need to be drawn on what is and what isn't allowed as art.


Imagine thinking some neckbeard drawing misty having sex is anywhere near as bad as a congressional candidate making an entire forum dedicated to how he wants to rape children and saying children are sex slaves
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b10916de4b0d5e89e1e4824
and the literal president advocating sexual assault. It's called free speech, no matter how much you like it or not.

yo what the fuck

It's pretty insane. Stalkers got mad when I tried to bump awareness for this though. Maybe I should make a topic about him again sometime.
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Vultis_Zales
09/23/18 6:29:40 AM
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Didn't a lawyer get disbarred for trying to ban GTA for simillar reasons
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catboy0_0
09/23/18 6:32:25 AM
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loli being illegal feels like jail is just rehab or a mental institution for the "morally depraved losers"
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Thompson
09/23/18 6:37:44 AM
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Ugh. Loli. Drawings of sexualized underage girls. Words cannot describe my disgust. However, if someone wants to draw such things, that's their prerogative.
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Turbam
09/23/18 6:40:55 AM
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No victim
No crime
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iClockwork
09/23/18 6:43:10 AM
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Turbam posted...
No victim
No crime

Normalizing the serialization of children isn't a victimless crime.
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Crepes
09/23/18 6:44:47 AM
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You have to wonder why people would want to see the pictures in the first place. Is that sort of person someone we should be enabling?
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Vultis_Zales
09/23/18 6:44:59 AM
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iClockwork posted...
Turbam posted...
No victim
No crime

Normalizing the serialization of children isn't a victimless crime.


it is until an actual child gets involved
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iClockwork
09/23/18 6:46:18 AM
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Vultis_Zales posted...
it is until an actual child gets involved

Nope it isn't
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catboy0_0
09/23/18 6:46:54 AM
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the crux of the whole thing is, is there any real harm in it?
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Rika_Furude
09/23/18 6:47:27 AM
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iClockwork posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Want to add your feelings here and now to this topic?

Meltdown initiated

nah, i asked a legit question without trying to troll you and this is your absolute best behavior. I'm disappointed in you, lovefist.
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catboy0_0
09/23/18 6:47:59 AM
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truth
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Rika_Furude
09/23/18 6:48:25 AM
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catboy0_0 posted...
the crux of the whole thing is, is there any real harm in it?

yeah because it increases demand for real child porn. and even if it didn't, it would still increase the perceived demand for real child porn. both results put real children in danger. hence, loli is bad.
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catboy0_0
09/23/18 6:50:32 AM
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so you're saying that a person using loli it will lead them down the path of seeking more of that stuff? more danger?
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Vultis_Zales
09/23/18 6:54:29 AM
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So basically Loli porn is a Gateway porn that will eventually lead to child porn and the creation of more child predators
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Turbam
09/23/18 6:54:30 AM
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iClockwork posted...
Turbam posted...
No victim
No crime

Normalizing the serialization of children isn't a victimless crime.

You wanna tell me who gets hurt because someone jerks off to cartoons?
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catboy0_0
09/23/18 6:54:57 AM
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Vultis_Zales posted...
So basically Loli porn is a Gateway porn that will eventually lead to child porn and the creation of more child predators

I'm not sure I believe this
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YUHH
09/23/18 7:04:01 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
the crux of the whole thing is, is there any real harm in it?

yeah because it increases demand for real child porn. and even if it didn't, it would still increase the perceived demand for real child porn. both results put real children in danger. hence, loli is bad.

Post to sig ratio
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PtlessAgmnts
09/23/18 7:06:57 AM
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YUHH posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
the crux of the whole thing is, is there any real harm in it?

yeah because it increases demand for real child porn. and even if it didn't, it would still increase the perceived demand for real child porn. both results put real children in danger. hence, loli is bad.

Post to sig ratio

Rika and clockwork have a little feud where they try to imply the other is the forbidden word until one slips up so they could mark it. Neither believes what they're saying. I've seen both argue the opposite.
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catboy0_0
09/23/18 7:07:39 AM
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the thing is clockwork is ALWAYS the aggressor. he does it to other people too
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Dragonblade01
09/23/18 7:12:50 AM
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Because we cannot criminalize something with no explicit victim. Even supposing that any given media encourages related criminal activity, the non-real representation of a crime cannot be punished criminally as long as no real crime is being perpetrated.
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UnfairRepresent
09/23/18 7:14:15 AM
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I remember when the UN human's rights council asked this question to Japan and Japan's response was basically "You do realize this shit isn't real right?" phrased in more political honeyed wording.
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catboy0_0
09/23/18 7:16:27 AM
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is it akin to committing crimes in a videogame like playing GTA?
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Vultis_Zales
09/23/18 7:16:36 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I remember when the UN human's rights council asked this question to Japan and Japan's response was basically "You do realize this shit isn't real right?" phrased in more political honeyed wording.


That sounds hilarious
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