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i want to move to europe

I hear Estonia is ok. Also consider Warsaw and Prague.
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Switzerland
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Albania
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Is Iceland Europe?

Sweden or Norway.
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I'm partial to The Netherlands.
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This is tough. I'd like to live in either Norway, Sweden, Germany, Switzerland or the Netherlands. I picked Scandinavia for the poll but realistically I'd live in Germany as I speak a little bit of German and have some contacts there.
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germany, netherlands, scandinavia

while scandinavia is great, but i have a feeling it's only that way for native scandinavians
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tamashiini posted...

Sweden or Norway.

sweden is destroyed since the era of refugees lol

Interesting how you included Hungary and Romania but not Spain or Portugal :P
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Parappa09 posted...

germany, netherlands, scandinavia

while scandinavia is great, but i have a feeling it's only that way for native scandinavians

It's more of a class issue than a race issue frankly. Although open racism is becoming more common. But I know plenty of immigrants who love it here and suffer fairly little from any sort of xenophobia. That stuff exists, but it's really sensationalized by foreign media.
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Also I voted for die Schweiz
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scar the 1 posted...

Parappa09 posted...

germany, netherlands, scandinavia

while scandinavia is great, but i have a feeling it's only that way for native scandinavians

It's more of a class issue than a race issue frankly. Although open racism is becoming more common. But I know plenty of immigrants who love it here and suffer fairly little from any sort of xenophobia. That stuff exists, but it's really sensationalized by foreign media.

Isn't is mostly just failure to assimilate?

Sativa_Rerose posted...

Interesting how you included Hungary and Romania but not Spain or Portugal :P

i cant list all europe countries lol maximum options are 10

LimboTraveller posted...

Sativa_Rerose posted...

Interesting how you included Hungary and Romania but not Spain or Portugal :P

i cant list all europe countries lol maximum options are 10

Yeah I know I am just giving you a hard time.
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Germany

Everyone voting for switzerland doesn't realise how much it costs to live in Switzerland
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Questionmarktarius posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Parappa09 posted...

germany, netherlands, scandinavia

while scandinavia is great, but i have a feeling it's only that way for native scandinavians

It's more of a class issue than a race issue frankly. Although open racism is becoming more common. But I know plenty of immigrants who love it here and suffer fairly little from any sort of xenophobia. That stuff exists, but it's really sensationalized by foreign media.

Isn't is mostly just failure to assimilate?

I think part of the issue is that more upper class people end up spending more time around people of the country's culture, while the lower class people end up in ghettos where they are mostly around people of their home culture. More exposure leads to more integration.
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teepan95 posted...

Germany

Everyone voting for switzerland doesn't realise how much it costs to live in Switzerland

I assumed I would be rich.
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LimboTraveller posted...

tamashiini posted...

Sweden or Norway.

sweden is destroyed since the era of refugees lol

Oh you believe in that BS.
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Sativa_Rerose posted...

teepan95 posted...

Germany

Everyone voting for switzerland doesn't realise how much it costs to live in Switzerland

I assumed I would be rich.

Even if you're rich, the costs associated with living in Switzerland are rather high

If it were just taxes I'd be OK with it, but prices themselves are high
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Questionmarktarius posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Parappa09 posted...

germany, netherlands, scandinavia

while scandinavia is great, but i have a feeling it's only that way for native scandinavians

It's more of a class issue than a race issue frankly. Although open racism is becoming more common. But I know plenty of immigrants who love it here and suffer fairly little from any sort of xenophobia. That stuff exists, but it's really sensationalized by foreign media.

Isn't is mostly just failure to assimilate?

I'm not sure you're describing the same problem that we're talking about, and I'm definitely sure that "failure to assimilate" is a very inaccurate description of anything in Sweden, since assimilation hasn't been the goal for a long time.
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teepan95 posted...

Sativa_Rerose posted...

teepan95 posted...

Germany

Everyone voting for switzerland doesn't realise how much it costs to live in Switzerland

I assumed I would be rich.

Even if you're rich, the costs associated with living in Switzerland are rather high

If it were just taxes I'd be OK with it, but prices themselves are high

Well I don't spend that much in the grand scheme of things. I guess Germany probably has more variety than Switzerland, but oh well. Germany has more big cities to choose from, that's for sure.
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Sativa_Rerose posted...

I think part of the issue is that more upper class people end up spending more time around people of the country's culture, while the lower class people end up in ghettos where they are mostly around people of their home culture. More exposure leads to more integration.

That's not really accurate. Upper class people spend tons of time around people from other countries. But they're also upper class.
Sweden doesn't have ghettos (Denmark does), but segregation is an issue. Curiously, anti-immigrant sentiments are really strong in municipalities with very limited or no exposure to actual immigrants.

And to complicate things a little, it's not so straightforward to talk about classes in Sweden. Yes, there are class differences, but the lines between classes have been blurred a lot thanks to the strong and mostly consistent rule of social democracy. So generalizations become a little trickier.
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scar the 1 posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Parappa09 posted...

germany, netherlands, scandinavia

while scandinavia is great, but i have a feeling it's only that way for native scandinavians

It's more of a class issue than a race issue frankly. Although open racism is becoming more common. But I know plenty of immigrants who love it here and suffer fairly little from any sort of xenophobia. That stuff exists, but it's really sensationalized by foreign media.

Isn't is mostly just failure to assimilate?

I'm not sure you're describing the same problem that we're talking about, and I'm definitely sure that "failure to assimilate" is a very inaccurate description of anything in Sweden, since assimilation hasn't been the goal for a long time.

...probably.
The Great American Melting Pot is beginning to fail, and nobody seems to know why.

Questionmarktarius posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Parappa09 posted...

germany, netherlands, scandinavia

while scandinavia is great, but i have a feeling it's only that way for native scandinavians

It's more of a class issue than a race issue frankly. Although open racism is becoming more common. But I know plenty of immigrants who love it here and suffer fairly little from any sort of xenophobia. That stuff exists, but it's really sensationalized by foreign media.

Isn't is mostly just failure to assimilate?

I'm not sure you're describing the same problem that we're talking about, and I'm definitely sure that "failure to assimilate" is a very inaccurate description of anything in Sweden, since assimilation hasn't been the goal for a long time.

...probably.
The Great American Melting Pot is beginning to fail, and nobody seems to know why.

I'm not so sure of that statement, especially since I don't really know what your metric for success is in this case.
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scar the 1 posted...

Sativa_Rerose posted...

I think part of the issue is that more upper class people end up spending more time around people of the country's culture, while the lower class people end up in ghettos where they are mostly around people of their home culture. More exposure leads to more integration.

That's not really accurate. Upper class people spend tons of time around people from other countries. But they're also upper class.
Sweden doesn't have ghettos (Denmark does), but segregation is an issue. Curiously, anti-immigrant sentiments are really strong in municipalities with very limited or no exposure to actual immigrants.

And to complicate things a little, it's not so straightforward to talk about classes in Sweden. Yes, there are class differences, but the lines between classes have been blurred a lot thanks to the strong and mostly consistent rule of social democracy. So generalizations become a little trickier.

Oh okay, maybe I am mistaken, especially with respect to Sweden. My general observation is just that those who end up in ghettos usually end up being a lot less exposed to the country's culture, but if there aren't any ghettos then that wouldn't be an issue. This is what the case was with the terrorists behind the Paris attacks who were raised in Belgium from what I remember. They grew up in Muslim ghettos without much exposure to the rest of society.
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Sativa_Rerose posted...

teepan95 posted...

Sativa_Rerose posted...

teepan95 posted...

Germany

Everyone voting for switzerland doesn't realise how much it costs to live in Switzerland

I assumed I would be rich.

Even if you're rich, the costs associated with living in Switzerland are rather high

If it were just taxes I'd be OK with it, but prices themselves are high

Well I don't spend that much in the grand scheme of things. I guess Germany probably has more variety than Switzerland, but oh well. Germany has more big cities to choose from, that's for sure.

Fair enough

Full disclosure: being German, I'm more than a bit biased :D
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Sativa_Rerose posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Sativa_Rerose posted...

I think part of the issue is that more upper class people end up spending more time around people of the country's culture, while the lower class people end up in ghettos where they are mostly around people of their home culture. More exposure leads to more integration.

That's not really accurate. Upper class people spend tons of time around people from other countries. But they're also upper class.
Sweden doesn't have ghettos (Denmark does), but segregation is an issue. Curiously, anti-immigrant sentiments are really strong in municipalities with very limited or no exposure to actual immigrants.

And to complicate things a little, it's not so straightforward to talk about classes in Sweden. Yes, there are class differences, but the lines between classes have been blurred a lot thanks to the strong and mostly consistent rule of social democracy. So generalizations become a little trickier.

Oh okay, maybe I am mistaken, especially with respect to Sweden. My general observation is just that those who end up in ghettos usually end up being a lot less exposed to the country's culture, but if there aren't any ghettos then that wouldn't be an issue. This is what the case was with the terrorists behind the Paris attacks who were raised in Belgium from what I remember. They grew up in Muslim ghettos without much exposure to the rest of society.

There is indeed an issue with "parallel communities" in Sweden. It's been overblown by the far right, but likely understated by the left. So you're not completely off base. The problem is beginning to get addressed and investigated now, though, so hopefully we'll know what we're dealing with. That's an important first step in trying to figure out how to deal with it. Meanwhile, politicians from all corners propose very premature measures that sound good to voters, because that's how elections work.
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scar the 1 posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Parappa09 posted...

germany, netherlands, scandinavia

while scandinavia is great, but i have a feeling it's only that way for native scandinavians

It's more of a class issue than a race issue frankly. Although open racism is becoming more common. But I know plenty of immigrants who love it here and suffer fairly little from any sort of xenophobia. That stuff exists, but it's really sensationalized by foreign media.

Isn't is mostly just failure to assimilate?

I'm not sure you're describing the same problem that we're talking about, and I'm definitely sure that "failure to assimilate" is a very inaccurate description of anything in Sweden, since assimilation hasn't been the goal for a long time.

...probably.
The Great American Melting Pot is beginning to fail, and nobody seems to know why.

I'm not so sure of that statement, especially since I don't really know what your metric for success is in this case.

I don't know either.

which girl has the biggest breasts in europe!

Questionmarktarius posted...

Is Iceland Europe?

Nope. It's part of the Sao Tom & Principe archipelago.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Is Iceland Europe?

It's even Scandinavia sometimes.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Is Iceland Europe?

Or just it's career?
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Norway
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LimboTraveller posted...

i want to move to europe

1) Scandinavian isnt a country
2) how can you have Hungary and Romania as serious choices in this poll but not the U.K., Portugal or Spain?
3) best to live in? It depends on your situation, do you have infinite money? Will you have to work there?

Best European country? Probably one of the nordic ones, or Netherlands. The worst is undoubtedly Belarus.
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why no one mention italy here?

LimboTraveller posted...

why no one mention italy here?

Because its economy is not great and its very hard for foreigners to get a job there let alone a decently paying one.

Granted this all depends on your skillsets.

But given your drivel about refugees please just stay in Murrika
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RebelElite791 posted...

LimboTraveller posted...

why no one mention italy here?

Because its economy is not great and its very hard for foreigners to get a job there let alone a decently paying one.

Granted this all depends on your skillsets.

But given your drivel about refugees please just stay in Murrika

lol i thought italy is a cheap country to live so i wonder why no one mention it
xD you do realize there is literally untouchable area for the polices in sweden due to lots of violent refugees?

LimboTraveller posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

LimboTraveller posted...

why no one mention italy here?

Because its economy is not great and its very hard for foreigners to get a job there let alone a decently paying one.

Granted this all depends on your skillsets.

But given your drivel about refugees please just stay in Murrika

lol i thought italy is a cheap country to live so i wonder why no one mention it
xD you do realize there is literally untouchable area for the polices in sweden due to lots of violent refugees?

... here we go again. Dont make this topic about teh moose limbs! Too. Make your own down with brown topics like the rest of the alt right CE posters

berlyman101 posted...

I hear Estonia is ok. Also consider Warsaw and Prague.

Why would you choose Estonia if an actual Scandinavian countries exist

Hawaiian_punch posted...

LimboTraveller posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

LimboTraveller posted...

why no one mention italy here?

Because its economy is not great and its very hard for foreigners to get a job there let alone a decently paying one.

Granted this all depends on your skillsets.

But given your drivel about refugees please just stay in Murrika

lol i thought italy is a cheap country to live so i wonder why no one mention it
xD you do realize there is literally untouchable area for the polices in sweden due to lots of violent refugees?

... here we go again. Dont make this topic about teh moose limbs! Too. Make your own down with brown topics like the rest of the alt right CE posters

i was just stating the reality though

LimboTraveller posted...

xD you do realize there is literally untouchable area for the polices in sweden due to lots of violent refugees?

10 karma poster
Checks out
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Hungary

Its the only country on that list that has any real pride.

The EU is screaming for sanctions because they dare to want to keep their country in one piece.

The rest, with the possible exception of Italy are happily destroying themselves.
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LimboTraveller posted...

xD you do realize there is literally untouchable area for the polices in sweden due to lots of violent refugees?

TIL: TC knows more about Sweden than the actual Swedish ceman ITT

0TiamaT0 posted...

Hungary

Its the only country on that list that has any real pride.

The EU is screaming for sanctions because they dare to want to keep their country in one piece.

The rest, with the possible exception of Italy are happily destroying themselves.

TIL: not electing fascists = happily destroying themselves
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teepan95 posted...

TIL: TC knows more about Sweden than the actual Swedish ceman ITT

He's literally a troll account, don't bother fam
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Germany. Specifically Berlin. Would love to live there.
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