Current Events > Sony unlocked the cross-platform hold for Fortnite

(+) Yeah! (+)

Pretty amazing. Although Fortnite sucks it's almost a cultural revolution in gaming, pretty interesting to witness something like this as it happens
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This is the first step in the right direction.
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ITT people think it's a good idea to pander to the competition, especially if you're the one sitting at the top of the mountain. Don't get into business, guys.
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Why would we take business advice from someone who couldn't spell an anime character name right?
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sauceje posted...

SolidSonicEX posted...

Backpeddling is bad color, Sony.

Screwed if they do, screwed if they don't, huh...

Lol IKR. Sometimes it's hilarious to watch kids whine and whine either way.
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mobile_jukester posted...

Lol IKR. Sometimes it's hilarious to watch kids whine and whine either way.

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SSJCAT posted...

Microsoft won't let Sony players play against them," Rodberg said, before suggesting we change the topic to something less sensitive. Presumably the barrier is a corporate and/or technical incompatibility between the Xbox 360's Xbox Live and Sony's PS3/PSP PlayStation Network. Those services are separate enough that people who play, say, Call of Duty on one, can't play that game against owners of the other, rival console.

I checked with Microsoft to be sure Rodberg wasn't maybe just mis-hearing them. Maybe Microsoft wanted to break the barrier too? Here's a Microsoft spokesperson saying "no," while promoting how awesome the Xbox 360's online service is: "Xbox Live delivers the best entertainment experience unmatched by anyone else, with 35 million actively engaged members. We have a high level of expectation for our game developers to ensure that all Live experiences remain top notch. Because we can't guarantee this level of quality, or control the player experience on other consoles or gaming networks, we currently do not open our network to games that allow this cross-over capability."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/kotaku.com/5813740/i-saw-the-playstation-3-wired-to-play-against-an-xbox-360-but-you-wont/amp

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ShadowElite86 posted...

SSJCAT posted...

Microsoft won't let Sony players play against them," Rodberg said, before suggesting we change the topic to something less sensitive. Presumably the barrier is a corporate and/or technical incompatibility between the Xbox 360's Xbox Live and Sony's PS3/PSP PlayStation Network. Those services are separate enough that people who play, say, Call of Duty on one, can't play that game against owners of the other, rival console.

I checked with Microsoft to be sure Rodberg wasn't maybe just mis-hearing them. Maybe Microsoft wanted to break the barrier too? Here's a Microsoft spokesperson saying "no," while promoting how awesome the Xbox 360's online service is: "Xbox Live delivers the best entertainment experience unmatched by anyone else, with 35 million actively engaged members. We have a high level of expectation for our game developers to ensure that all Live experiences remain top notch. Because we can't guarantee this level of quality, or control the player experience on other consoles or gaming networks, we currently do not open our network to games that allow this cross-over capability."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/kotaku.com/5813740/i-saw-the-playstation-3-wired-to-play-against-an-xbox-360-but-you-wont/amp

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lol wut
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Sony isnt off the hook yet...

They'll still have the mod issue to deal with when they become available on Fallout 76.
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I am honestly shocked.
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0TiamaT0 posted...

Sony isnt off the hook yet...

They'll still have the mod issue to deal with when they become available on Fallout 76.

I'm sure you'll find something else to complain about.
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Alpha218 posted...

Kitt posted...

Veggeta X posted...

SSJCAT posted...

if youll remember last generation it was ps3 that was cool with cross-platform and the 360 was like nah brah

I don't remember this.

I do.

I dont really think cross-play was really a thing back then. That gen was more characterized by Microsoft throwing wads of cash at every developer for exclusives or timed exclusives (360 would get CoD map packs early for example, at a time that the series was at its peak in popularity)

Sony and Valve had that crossplay thing for Portal 2 and Microsoft was letting their console players and PC players play together.
Then it got to a point where the idea of crossplay across all platforms was being thrown around, and it looked like Sony, Ninentdo, everyone was down for it except Microsoft.
Jump a generation later and it's happening again, only this time, Microsoft and Sony switched places.
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Imagine being salty about this. I look foward to playing with and crackin open a cold one with the Sony boys
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Veggeta X posted...

ITT people think it's a good idea to pander to the competition, especially if you're the one sitting at the top of the mountain. Don't get into business, guys.

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Why are you quoting yourself

That's narcissistic levels of posting
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

Why are you quoting yourself

That's narcissistic levels of posting

Not at all. Just letting people know what's up.
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All of those people defending Sony not doing this because they were the market leader sure look dumb now. Glad to see Sony eventually did the right thing. Exciting possibilities for the future now.

voldothegr8 posted...

SocialistGamer posted...

Hope RDR2 and MHW get support!

Don't count on any other games getting support. Fortnite is THE game with kids and teens and they were probably hemorrhaging players, thus revenue, because of their shitty policy.

They're already said they're open to let other games do it. The issue now would be most games haven't really considered it so it might be too late to change it now. Games like Fortnite and Rocket League have always had the capability.
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Gamers win this time, but at what cost?
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Vicious_Dios posted...

Gamers win this time, but at what cost?

The cost of Sony not being able to hold the industry back for their own gain?
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How is Sony holding the industry back? By not wanting to help their competition win? Holy fuck.
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Veggeta X posted...

How is Sony holding the industry back? By not wanting to help their competition win? Holy fuck.

you do realize that there is a balance between milking your customers and pissing them off right
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Veggeta X posted...

How is Sony holding the industry back? By not wanting to help their competition win? Holy fuck.

They're not anymore.

But if they kept doing it they were giving less options to both developers and gamers. Multiplayer games being fragmented across several platforms shrinks the playerbase pool for each game. This also gives incentive to buy different copies/DLC if progress carries between the different versions.
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If only they would take the stick out of their ass about Skyrim mods as well

Pity they decided to do it for such a shit game.
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Fortnite is dying. How benevolent of Sony to change their policies in a last ditch effort to save Epic.
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SSJCAT posted...

you do realize that there is a balance between milking your customers and pissing them off right

Tell me where Sony is doing wrong.
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Darmik posted...

They're not anymore.

But if they kept doing it they were giving less options to both developers and gamers. Multiplayer games being fragmented across several platforms shrinks the playerbase pool for each game. This also gives incentive to buy different copies/DLC if progress carries between the different versions.

That's like saying Sony shouldn't make exclusives.
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Veggeta X posted...

SSJCAT posted...

you do realize that there is a balance between milking your customers and pissing them off right

Tell me where Sony is doing wrong.

because if you piss off your customers too much then they jump ship.
like what happened with people jumping from 360 to ps4 after microsoft pissed them off.
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Good, this is a good step towards an inevitable cross platform online multiplayer for all 3 consoles for future games, now games online won't die out as quick anymore.
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KDTProjekt posted...

Fortnite is dying. How benevolent of Sony to change their policies in a last ditch effort to save Epic.

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-many-people-play-fortnite-stats-2018-2018-9

'Fortnite' just had its biggest month ever, with nearly 80 million people playing in August

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SSJCAT posted...

because if you piss off your customers too much then they jump ship.

Consumers dunno shit though.
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Veggeta X posted...

SSJCAT posted...

because if you piss off your customers too much then they jump ship.

Consumers dunno shit though.

right which is why you ignored the second half of my post?
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Veggeta X posted...

Darmik posted...

They're not anymore.

But if they kept doing it they were giving less options to both developers and gamers. Multiplayer games being fragmented across several platforms shrinks the playerbase pool for each game. This also gives incentive to buy different copies/DLC if progress carries between the different versions.

That's like saying Sony shouldn't make exclusives.

That isn't comparable at all. Sony hire and pay people to make exclusives. Developers benefit from that relationship.
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Alpha218 posted...

Surprised they backed down on this
Maybe they finally realize that this will bite them in the ass next gen if they kept this up

Bang on.
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KDTProjekt posted...

Fortnite is dying. How benevolent of Sony to change their policies in a last ditch effort to save Epic.

Might want to check before spewing bullshit

https://www.pcgamesn.com/fortnite/fortnite-battle-royale-player-numbers

Syntheticon posted...

Alpha218 posted...

Surprised they backed down on this
Maybe they finally realize that this will bite them in the ass next gen if they kept this up

Bang on.

Not quite, they simply can't get away with it because the player base is just too massive. They had to have been losing tons of revenue because of their shitty policy causing people to play elsewhere because the game is widely available. Investors probably got pissed and told Sony to wake the fuck up.
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SSJCAT posted...

right which is why you ignored the second half of my post?

You act like Micorsoft beat Sony which is false.
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Darmik posted...

That isn't comparable at all. Sony hire and pay people to make exclusives. Developers benefit from that relationship.

But it hurts the people and other consoles by not releasing it to other platforms.
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Veggeta X posted...

SSJCAT posted...

right which is why you ignored the second half of my post?

You act like Micorsoft beat Sony which is false.

yet youre ignoring the fact that many 360 owners jumped to sony this generation after microsoft flopped their xbox one reveal
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SSJCAT posted...

yet youre ignoring the fact that many 360 owners jumped to sony this generation after microsoft flopped their xbox one reveal

You're implying Sony fans will jumpship which is a false narrative.
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You really think Sony fans going be like "OMG Sony won't cross platform so I'm gonna join XBOX where I can play with Nintendo!". LMAO come on now.
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Veggeta X posted...

SSJCAT posted...

yet youre ignoring the fact that many 360 owners jumped to sony this generation after microsoft flopped their xbox one reveal

You're implying Sony fans will jumpship which is a false narrative.

if they get pissed off enough they will. that is the point i was trying to make from the start and i dont know how you continue to fail to see that?
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Veggeta X posted...

Darmik posted...

That isn't comparable at all. Sony hire and pay people to make exclusives. Developers benefit from that relationship.

But it hurts the people and other consoles by not releasing it to other platforms.

The game wouldn't exist without first parties so no.

Veggeta X posted...

You really think Sony fans going be like "OMG Sony won't cross platform so I'm gonna join XBOX where I can play with Nintendo!". LMAO come on now.

If they made enough dumb decisions it could happen.

Look at the PS3 and Xbox One.

It's always best to try and satisfy as many of your consumers as possible.
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SSJCAT posted...

yet youre ignoring the fact that many 360 owners jumped to sony this generation after microsoft flopped their xbox one reveal

Many people jumped to PC as well since Xbox first party games are available on it. PS3 compared to PS4, sales wise year to year over their lifetimes, are about the same. So not as many people as you think jumped ship to Sony.
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Yeah Fortnite is not dying anytime soon. When you have a large demograph of kids playing your game, you can expect a long game life especially when it's F2P. Hell Minecraft (while not at its peak) is still alive and strong with many of the current minecraft LP's still racking in millions of views.
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voldothegr8 posted...

PS3 compared to PS4, sales wise year to year over their lifetimes, are about the same. So not as many people as you think jumped ship to Sony.

No they aren't. PS4 is just about to outsell the PS3 if it already hasn't. It's sold over 80 million.

PS3 sold 47.9 million at this point
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-02-09-analysed-lifetime-ps3-and-360-sales
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X-Pac_Heat posted...

Same when Sony finally allows KB and Mouse. I'm already seeing Sony fanboys complaining that Microsoft doing this is a *terrible* idea because it's going to completely screw over controller players lmfao.

sony already allows mouse and keyboard (have done so since PS3). its up to the developers to implement them.
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Darmik posted...

If they made enough dumb decisions it could happen.

Look at the PS3 and Xbox One.

it won't happen.

Darmik posted...

It's always best to try and satisfy as many of your consumers as possible.

Oh lord this is so entitled you don't even know.
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It's entitlement to buy another platform that offers a better service?
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lol i give up dude
just keep on thinking that sony shouldnt try to keep their consumers satisfied
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It's entitled to think you know it all and think everyone shares you opinion. I'm sure as a consumer you don't give a fuck if a company goes broke trying to make each and everyone happy. Sometimes it's better to chase a crazy customer out your store then to serve him.
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