Current Events > Do people actually buy American cars?

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Genuinely curious - seems like people only do it for meme status
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I am from Detroit originally and I wouldn't even buy a Ford. Once I went Honda I never went back.
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As an American who knows Americans, They're not to be trusted with a lot of complicated shit like Engineering.
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not willingly no
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Hell nah, American cars are trash
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here in the south they buy a ford, chevy, or dodge pickup.
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Most "foreign" cars are made in the US anyways.
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American automakers still make the best pickups/SUVS, genuinely make decent sports cars, and have improved leaps and bounds in the sedan segment (though the big 2 in Honda/Toyota are still by far the leaders in that segment)
now is as good a time as any to grab an American car
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billcom6 posted...

Most "foreign" cars are made in the US anyways.

Not mine. One says BUILT and IMPORTED from TORONTO, ON. The other says BUILT and IMPORTED From some shit hole in South Korea.
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billcom6 posted...

Most "foreign" cars are made in the US anyways.

Mine's a German body with a Hungarian shell so I dunno about that.
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My mom drives a Ford, something needs replacing about twice a year.
My best friend drives a Ford, had it serviced 5 times in the first year, just 3 times in the last month alone.
His girlfriend drives a Ford, broke down 2 times in the last 3 months.
My brother drove a Ford, needed repairs and it broke down all the time and eventually just dumped it.
My sisters BF drives a Dodge, needs repairs about twice a year.

My Hyundai has had 0 issues/lights/things in need of repairs for a year now.
My sisters Honda has never needed anything more than the oil changed in the 2 years shes had it.
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I have a jeep patriot, which has a Japanese frame and a Korean transmission lol
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pres_madagascar posted...

I have a jeep patriot,

My condolences.
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electricbugs2 posted...

pres_madagascar posted...

I have a jeep patriot,

My condolences.

Nah, reliable car.
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I had an impala for 11 years but now I have a toyota
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60s-80s American muscle are the best cars you can get.
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I drive a Ford and it's an 04 and runs like a dream, tho I have had to put some money into it. I used to be a car salesman for a Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram dealership, and hell yeah people live Dodges. Chsrgers and especially Challengers are sexy as. Then there's the beastly Hellcats and more recently but the boner inducing Dodge Demon, the owner used to do burnouts as he left the dealership and they were awesome.
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American cars have improved dramatically since the bailouts. But people like to be edgy and bash the auto industry.
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Johnny_Nutcase posted...

billcom6 posted...

Most "foreign" cars are made in the US anyways.

Not mine. One says BUILT and IMPORTED from TORONTO, ON. The other says BUILT and IMPORTED From some shit hole in South Korea.

Serious question, wouldn't cars built in Canada and Mexico be of the same quality as the ones in the States?
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Chevy Volt is one of the best Plug-In Hybrids in the market.
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I proudly buy only American cars. Mostly Chevys.
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Flockaveli posted...

My mom drives a Ford, something needs replacing about twice a year.
My best friend drives a Ford, had it serviced 5 times in the first year, just 3 times in the last month alone.
His girlfriend drives a Ford, broke down 2 times in the last 3 months.
My brother drove a Ford, needed repairs and it broke down all the time and eventually just dumped it.

well you know what Ford stands for, right? Fix it again, Tony.
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billcom6 posted...

Most "foreign" cars are made in the US anyways.

Mine was made in japan.
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The American automakers only bother making quality trucks. The cars are shit.

Chevy/GMC/Dodge/Ford should ONLY be bought after 2014 models
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Cadillacs are decent cheap luxury alternative
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Flockaveli posted...

My mom drives a Ford, something needs replacing about twice a year.
My best friend drives a Ford, had it serviced 5 times in the first year, just 3 times in the last month alone.
His girlfriend drives a Ford, broke down 2 times in the last 3 months.
My brother drove a Ford, needed repairs and it broke down all the time and eventually just dumped it.
My sisters BF drives a Dodge, needs repairs about twice a year.

Mileage?

My Hyundai has had 0 issues/lights/things in need of repairs for a year now.
My sisters Honda has never needed anything more than the oil changed in the 2 years shes had it.

Brakes?
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I have a Chevy Sonic that has been surprisingly reliable.

two of the most common problems on all Fords are broken blend door actuators and canister purge valves, and always out of warranty

Let's not talk about the auto trans in the Focus either

most foreign cars driven in america were also assembled in america

important to note frequently the components werent made here
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treewojima posted...

two of the most common problems on all Fords are broken blend door actuators and canister purge valves, and always out of warranty

Let's not talk about the auto trans in the Focus either

Fuckin' blend doors.

I loved my Explorer (had a '97 with the 5.0 and awd), but I had the broken blend door. Wasn't going to pay an arm and a leg to pull the dash, so every spring and fall, I'd take the glove box off and open in manually.
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RiderofHogs posted...

60s-80s American muscle are the best cars you can get.

Uhh... 70s and 80s? Are you being ironic?
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

RiderofHogs posted...

60s-80s American muscle are the best cars you can get.

Uhh... 70s and 80s? Are you being ironic?

Clearly doesn't know shit about cars.

Like, you can MAKE cars from the 70's and 80's fast, and a few even look cool, but it almost explicitly requires technically breaking the law, and it'd be explicitly illegal in California.
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I've had two Fords, both of which were shit heaps that constantly gave me trouble. Then, I bought a Chevy, and that fell apart after about three years. After that, I bought a Toyota, and all of my car problems suddenly vanished. Hmmm...

bkkorps posted...

well you know what Ford stands for, right? Fix it again, Tony.

Fix Or Repair Daily
Fucking Old Rebuilt Dodge
Found On (the) Road Dead
Backwards: Driver Returns On Foot

Yeah, I'll never drive another American car again. Fuck that shit.
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sevens1997 posted...

Yeah, I'll never drive another American car again. Fuck that shit.

Good luck affording that inevitable repair bill.
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darkjedilink posted...

sevens1997 posted...

Yeah, I'll never drive another American car again. Fuck that shit.

Good luck affording that inevitable repair bill.

Had enough of those with American junkers, thank you.
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My dad says General motors are good. I know nothing about cars except those cheap economy rice burners last forever if u are in the market for a cheapo used vehicle.
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sevens1997 posted...

Fix Or Repair Daily
Fucking Old Rebuilt Dodge
Found On (the) Road Dead
Backwards: Driver Returns On Foot

My ex's father was a big fan of Far Out Rust Designs
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Here in the UK, quite a few chavs and boy racers buy the Ford focus. But you hardly see any any one in a chevrolet and chrysler. Dodges are non existent here. And you see maybe one or two jeeps every once a while.

But recently the boy racers shifted over to volkswagen golfs. And second hand sciroccos.

Popularity it goes from mostly German, Japanese and Korean cars here in uk. Then UK cars is the class below them with the land rovers and mini coopers and jaguars.

As a UK fella, I would like to drive a jag or a range rover. But they are expensive as fuck. So im forced to go with a Honda.
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I've always stuck with Chevy, GMC, and Land Rover
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InYourWalls1 posted...

sevens1997 posted...

Fix Or Repair Daily
Fucking Old Rebuilt Dodge
Found On (the) Road Dead
Backwards: Driver Returns On Foot

My ex's father was a big fan of Far Out Rust Designs

That's a good one lol.
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frogman_295 posted...

My dad says General motors are good. I know nothing about cars except those cheap economy rice burners last forever if u are in the market for a cheapo used vehicle.

Every car manufacturer makes something good, and they all make something shit. Outside of engines, your main problems in modern cars is going to be electronic - Chrysler, in particular, has always had horrendous electronics, and it really came to a head just before the Fiat merger. Most cars before then cannot be reprogrammed, meaning if you have a software issue, you need a new computer.

GM's biggest electrical issue, in my experience, is their Remote Door Lock Antenna - it controls a shit-ton more than just the door locks (TPMS, alarm, etc.). Before that, it was their Passlock ignition-lock system (it's why there are so many Passlock-equipped cars with a replaced ignition cylinder).

Ford's is the aforementioned blend door.

Mechanically, GM's V-6 and V-8 engines without variable valve timing are almost indestructible, so long as maintenance is done properly. The VVT engines are pretty shit, though - the vvt solenoids go out all the time. The Duramax diesels are pretty good, too, especially if you do all the deletes (DEF, EGR, etc.).

Chrysler's Hemi is pretty good, but their non-Hemi engines all suck (especially the water pumps). The Cummins is a beast, especially after deletes, and of the Big Three, it gets the best fuel economy before and after mods.

Ford's 4.6 is solid, but also a slug. The 6.8 V10 is shit (spark plugs get stuck AND it's slow?). The 5.4 is powerful, but certain models have that shitty head that spark plugs get stuck in and break off. The 5.0 is awesome, and all their eco-boost stuff is great, so long as you maintain them properly. The 7.3 diesel is awesome, the 6.0 made by International is shit, but if you throw enough money at it, you can make it reliable, Jasper's reps tell us that they're shipping out replacement 6.4's DAILY, so those are shit (also made by International), and thus far, the only problem I know of with the 6.7 is directly related to fuel quality and people running it out of fuel.
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I have seen American cars on the road. Funnily enough though the ones with the Trump stickers on them are all foreign manufactured.
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Alpha218 posted...

I have seen American cars on the road. Funnily enough though the ones with the Trump stickers on them are all foreign manufactured.

I have the opposite experience - the only Trump stickers I see are on American vehicles. The only liberal stickers (I say this because, for whatever reason, it's never JUST Hillary - her sticker is next to Obama's, and Kerry's, and Gore's), are always an import.
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My family has always had Fords with no issue.
Hell, my dad still has his '98 F150.
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frogman_295 posted...

My dad says General motors are good. I know nothing about cars except those cheap economy rice burners last forever if u are in the market for a cheapo used vehicle.

My family has owned quite a few gm cars between 2000 and 2011, we've had some electrical issue with every one. The Fords have had problems with the doors, windows, and other parts falling apart easily.
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