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Meow1000
10/04/18 2:32:42 PM
#51:


Obellisk posted...
Meow1000 posted...
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blade I worry this is a gambit to leave a prime suspect alone today

I have no idea what Tange is doing but I am less certain in him being scum than you are.

Passively shaded me after I told him his argument is better on me than it is on you and left without any real attack.

Is scum Tange really this lazy


I dont know unfortunately.

I don't want to jump to him being scum but his attack on me is soooo weak. I cant see town really doing this.

Problem is how does suicide really help scum that much if this theory is right
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Neablis
10/04/18 2:34:30 PM
#52:


Blade,

lets say that hes scum trying to draw attention the easiest solution is that they have poison on someone and they are willing to lynch a scum VT/weak scum role and get two kills tonight and potential two more kills from the next poison
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Meow1000
10/04/18 2:35:12 PM
#53:


The real problem is 2/3 of the game feels like they're just watching it instead of playing it.
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Meow1000
10/04/18 2:36:04 PM
#54:


Neablis posted...
Blade,

lets say that hes scum trying to draw attention the easiest solution is that they have poison on someone and they are willing to lynch a scum VT/weak scum role and get two kills tonight and potential two more kills from the next poison

Multi use poisoners are incredibly rare here, the only reason I even had the idea is Suprak game
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htaeD
10/04/18 2:37:18 PM
#55:


Tange can be careless and lazy regardless of alignment.
Though he tends to lurk when he doesnt want attention.
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Meow1000
10/04/18 2:38:32 PM
#56:


Also if they have multiple use they 100% used it night 1.
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IfGodCouldDie
10/04/18 2:46:00 PM
#57:


Have a half hour break to wait for a stop, not going to bother reading everything at the moment.

But I would like to sort something out with Sbell. What is it about me that makes you think I'm some great or even decent town player?
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Neablis
10/04/18 2:46:49 PM
#58:


Possibly so, I am just spit balling.

Personally I would not get embroiled in the soft pushes, we can talk about it but we should focus on IGCD I believe today.
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Obellisk
10/04/18 2:47:42 PM
#59:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Have a half hour break to wait for a stop, not going to bother reading everything at the moment.

But I would like to sort something out with Sbell. What is it about me that makes you think I'm some great or even decent town player?


Is your argument here that if you aren't a great town player then maybe all the things i think make you scum are just you being a bad town player?
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IfGodCouldDie
10/04/18 2:49:05 PM
#60:


Obellisk posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Have a half hour break to wait for a stop, not going to bother reading everything at the moment.

But I would like to sort something out with Sbell. What is it about me that makes you think I'm some great or even decent town player?


Is your argument here that if you aren't a great town player then maybe all the things i think make you scum are just you being a bad town player?

Answer the question please.
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Obellisk
10/04/18 2:50:27 PM
#61:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Obellisk posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Have a half hour break to wait for a stop, not going to bother reading everything at the moment.

But I would like to sort something out with Sbell. What is it about me that makes you think I'm some great or even decent town player?


Is your argument here that if you aren't a great town player then maybe all the things i think make you scum are just you being a bad town player?

Answer the question please.


Fair enough. I do not think you are a great town player or even a decent town player.

I think you are a decent enough mafia player from what i've seen though. And things like you saying "Its day 3 and blade is alive" leads me to believe you are definitely aware enough to be a decent mafia player.
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Meow1000
10/04/18 2:50:42 PM
#62:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Obellisk posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Have a half hour break to wait for a stop, not going to bother reading everything at the moment.

But I would like to sort something out with Sbell. What is it about me that makes you think I'm some great or even decent town player?


Is your argument here that if you aren't a great town player then maybe all the things i think make you scum are just you being a bad town player?

Answer the question please.

Yeah answer the question nudge nudge
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Obellisk
10/04/18 2:51:54 PM
#63:


Meow1000 posted...
Also if they have multiple use they 100% used it night 1.


but we have no evidence of that based on the kills we've seen.
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IfGodCouldDie
10/04/18 2:52:51 PM
#64:


Obellisk posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Obellisk posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Have a half hour break to wait for a stop, not going to bother reading everything at the moment.

But I would like to sort something out with Sbell. What is it about me that makes you think I'm some great or even decent town player?


Is your argument here that if you aren't a great town player then maybe all the things i think make you scum are just you being a bad town player?

Answer the question please.


Fair enough. I do not think you are a great town player or even a decent town player.

I think you are a decent enough mafia player from what i've seen though. And things like you saying "Its day 3 and blade is alive" leads me to believe you are definitely aware enough to be a decent mafia player.

Ok, now if my memory serves me correctly you have only ever seen me be town. What is so drastically different from every single game we have been in that you suddenly think I am not the same alignment that I have been in every other game we have played together?
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Meow1000
10/04/18 2:52:56 PM
#65:


Obellisk posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Obellisk posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Have a half hour break to wait for a stop, not going to bother reading everything at the moment.

But I would like to sort something out with Sbell. What is it about me that makes you think I'm some great or even decent town player?


Is your argument here that if you aren't a great town player then maybe all the things i think make you scum are just you being a bad town player?

Answer the question please.


Fair enough. I do not think you are a great town player or even a decent town player.

I think you are a decent enough mafia player from what i've seen though. And things like you saying "Its day 3 and blade is alive" leads me to believe you are definitely aware enough to be a decent mafia player.

The problem I have isn't him doing that, it's his total unwillingness to properly engage me yesterday and be content leaving it to other people
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Meow1000
10/04/18 2:55:47 PM
#66:


Obellisk posted...
Meow1000 posted...
Also if they have multiple use they 100% used it night 1.


but we have no evidence of that based on the kills we've seen.

That's the point though.

I think they used it though as behind as they are in any case.
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IfGodCouldDie
10/04/18 2:56:01 PM
#67:


Meow1000 posted...
Obellisk posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Obellisk posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Have a half hour break to wait for a stop, not going to bother reading everything at the moment.

But I would like to sort something out with Sbell. What is it about me that makes you think I'm some great or even decent town player?


Is your argument here that if you aren't a great town player then maybe all the things i think make you scum are just you being a bad town player?

Answer the question please.


Fair enough. I do not think you are a great town player or even a decent town player.

I think you are a decent enough mafia player from what i've seen though. And things like you saying "Its day 3 and blade is alive" leads me to believe you are definitely aware enough to be a decent mafia player.

The problem I have isn't him doing that, it's his total unwillingness to properly engage me yesterday and be content leaving it to other people

Stop trying to tell people what they should be thinking. Please allow others to make their own conclusions based on their own perceptions. You don't know anyone else's alignment unless you are scum so trying to dictate how people think is very dangerous for town.
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Obellisk
10/04/18 2:59:48 PM
#68:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Obellisk posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Obellisk posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Have a half hour break to wait for a stop, not going to bother reading everything at the moment.

But I would like to sort something out with Sbell. What is it about me that makes you think I'm some great or even decent town player?


Is your argument here that if you aren't a great town player then maybe all the things i think make you scum are just you being a bad town player?

Answer the question please.


Fair enough. I do not think you are a great town player or even a decent town player.

I think you are a decent enough mafia player from what i've seen though. And things like you saying "Its day 3 and blade is alive" leads me to believe you are definitely aware enough to be a decent mafia player.

Ok, now if my memory serves me correctly you have only ever seen me be town. What is so drastically different from every single game we have been in that you suddenly think I am not the same alignment that I have been in every other game we have played together?


Haven't we only played 1 game together? Scooby doesn't count. Mind you scooby you were the scum.

So this argument doesn't hold any water. It's not like we have a history of mafia together and a baseline you can lay down. 1 game where we were both town does not create a common thread i should be looking for on you.

I've laid out the evidence that points me in the direction that you are scum. I will go pull it all back up if i have to.

Arguing that I should know that this is you being town and not being scum does not help here.
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IfGodCouldDie
10/04/18 3:01:27 PM
#69:


Obellisk posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Obellisk posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Obellisk posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Have a half hour break to wait for a stop, not going to bother reading everything at the moment.

But I would like to sort something out with Sbell. What is it about me that makes you think I'm some great or even decent town player?


Is your argument here that if you aren't a great town player then maybe all the things i think make you scum are just you being a bad town player?

Answer the question please.


Fair enough. I do not think you are a great town player or even a decent town player.

I think you are a decent enough mafia player from what i've seen though. And things like you saying "Its day 3 and blade is alive" leads me to believe you are definitely aware enough to be a decent mafia player.

Ok, now if my memory serves me correctly you have only ever seen me be town. What is so drastically different from every single game we have been in that you suddenly think I am not the same alignment that I have been in every other game we have played together?


Haven't we only played 1 game together? Scooby doesn't count. Mind you scooby you were the scum.

So this argument doesn't hold any water. It's not like we have a history of mafia together and a baseline you can lay down. 1 game where we were both town does not create a common thread i should be looking for on you.

I've laid out the evidence that points me in the direction that you are scum. I will go pull it all back up if i have to.

Arguing that I should know that this is you being town and not being scum does not help here.

We have played at least 2 other games together.
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Obellisk
10/04/18 3:01:35 PM
#70:


Meow1000 posted...
Obellisk posted...
Meow1000 posted...
Also if they have multiple use they 100% used it night 1.


but we have no evidence of that based on the kills we've seen.

That's the point though.

I think they used it though as behind as they are in any case.


i dont see them as behind. We've lynched 1 scum, barely.
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Meow1000
10/04/18 3:02:22 PM
#71:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Meow1000 posted...
Obellisk posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Obellisk posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Have a half hour break to wait for a stop, not going to bother reading everything at the moment.

But I would like to sort something out with Sbell. What is it about me that makes you think I'm some great or even decent town player?


Is your argument here that if you aren't a great town player then maybe all the things i think make you scum are just you being a bad town player?

Answer the question please.


Fair enough. I do not think you are a great town player or even a decent town player.

I think you are a decent enough mafia player from what i've seen though. And things like you saying "Its day 3 and blade is alive" leads me to believe you are definitely aware enough to be a decent mafia player.

The problem I have isn't him doing that, it's his total unwillingness to properly engage me yesterday and be content leaving it to other people

Stop trying to tell people what they should be thinking. Please allow others to make their own conclusions based on their own perceptions. You don't know anyone else's alignment unless you are scum so trying to dictate how people think is very dangerous for town.

Pretty sure I've only done that on you and Tange and you're both either scum or really bad town which is what I'm trying to figure out.
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Meow1000
10/04/18 3:02:40 PM
#72:


Obellisk posted...
Meow1000 posted...
Obellisk posted...
Meow1000 posted...
Also if they have multiple use they 100% used it night 1.


but we have no evidence of that based on the kills we've seen.

That's the point though.

I think they used it though as behind as they are in any case.


i dont see them as behind. We've lynched 1 scum, barely.

Ben's MK.
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Obellisk
10/04/18 3:03:16 PM
#73:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Obellisk posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Obellisk posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Obellisk posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Have a half hour break to wait for a stop, not going to bother reading everything at the moment.

But I would like to sort something out with Sbell. What is it about me that makes you think I'm some great or even decent town player?


Is your argument here that if you aren't a great town player then maybe all the things i think make you scum are just you being a bad town player?

Answer the question please.


Fair enough. I do not think you are a great town player or even a decent town player.

I think you are a decent enough mafia player from what i've seen though. And things like you saying "Its day 3 and blade is alive" leads me to believe you are definitely aware enough to be a decent mafia player.

Ok, now if my memory serves me correctly you have only ever seen me be town. What is so drastically different from every single game we have been in that you suddenly think I am not the same alignment that I have been in every other game we have played together?


Haven't we only played 1 game together? Scooby doesn't count. Mind you scooby you were the scum.

So this argument doesn't hold any water. It's not like we have a history of mafia together and a baseline you can lay down. 1 game where we were both town does not create a common thread i should be looking for on you.

I've laid out the evidence that points me in the direction that you are scum. I will go pull it all back up if i have to.

Arguing that I should know that this is you being town and not being scum does not help here.

We have played at least 2 other games together.


what was the other game? I came back to B8, played Scooby, played TV Crossover and now this one.

Any game before that, i have zero recollection of and it was from over a year ago. I think i showed back up last year and played a Japanese History Mafia maybe? Was that a Reg game? prior to that, i was gone for a year before that. And the only games i can remember doing anything in are FF6 Mafia and GoT Mafia (tv not books)
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IfGodCouldDie
10/04/18 3:04:06 PM
#74:


Meow1000 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Meow1000 posted...
Obellisk posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Obellisk posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Have a half hour break to wait for a stop, not going to bother reading everything at the moment.

But I would like to sort something out with Sbell. What is it about me that makes you think I'm some great or even decent town player?


Is your argument here that if you aren't a great town player then maybe all the things i think make you scum are just you being a bad town player?

Answer the question please.


Fair enough. I do not think you are a great town player or even a decent town player.

I think you are a decent enough mafia player from what i've seen though. And things like you saying "Its day 3 and blade is alive" leads me to believe you are definitely aware enough to be a decent mafia player.

The problem I have isn't him doing that, it's his total unwillingness to properly engage me yesterday and be content leaving it to other people

Stop trying to tell people what they should be thinking. Please allow others to make their own conclusions based on their own perceptions. You don't know anyone else's alignment unless you are scum so trying to dictate how people think is very dangerous for town.

Pretty sure I've only done that on you and Tange and you're both either scum or really bad town which is what I'm trying to figure out.

Ok what makes you think I am a good enough player to not be called bad? When have you ever seen me play a game where I wasn't shit?
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Obellisk
10/04/18 3:04:38 PM
#75:


Meow1000 posted...
Obellisk posted...
Meow1000 posted...
Obellisk posted...
Meow1000 posted...
Also if they have multiple use they 100% used it night 1.


but we have no evidence of that based on the kills we've seen.

That's the point though.

I think they used it though as behind as they are in any case.


i dont see them as behind. We've lynched 1 scum, barely.

Ben's MK.


Yeah, but we dont know the numbers and we lost one to MK too. feels like it evens itself out, although they did lose their blocker....

Which begs the question, where are all out scans. Not that i'm looking for town power to claim stupidly.
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Meow1000
10/04/18 3:04:53 PM
#76:


And also calling you out on two obvious contradictions you have completely avoided responding to by any means possible isn't helping.
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Obellisk
10/04/18 3:06:40 PM
#77:


I do love that IGCD is now arguing that he's bad at mafia so he isn't scum.

Have we run out of all the good arguments like "I did this this game and it was sooo pro town"
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IfGodCouldDie
10/04/18 3:06:47 PM
#78:


Obellisk posted...
what was the other game? I came back to B8, played Scooby, played TV Crossover and now this one.

Any game before that, i have zero recollection of and it was from over a year ago. I think i showed back up last year and played a Japanese History Mafia maybe? Was that a Reg game? prior to that, i was gone for a year before that. And the only games i can remember doing anything in are FF6 Mafia and GoT Mafia (tv not books)

Maybe Scooby Doo was the other one I was thinking of then. I thought there was one before that and TV mafia. My bad if not. I have to get back to work though, I'm 5 mins over my lunch and I don't like setting a bad example for trainees.
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Meow1000
10/04/18 3:07:09 PM
#79:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Ok what makes you think I am a good enough player to not be called bad? When have you ever seen me play a game where I wasn't s***?

Stop using this as a defense. Two straight days you've responded by playing the victim to avoid answering questions.
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Obellisk
10/04/18 3:08:16 PM
#80:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Obellisk posted...
what was the other game? I came back to B8, played Scooby, played TV Crossover and now this one.

Any game before that, i have zero recollection of and it was from over a year ago. I think i showed back up last year and played a Japanese History Mafia maybe? Was that a Reg game? prior to that, i was gone for a year before that. And the only games i can remember doing anything in are FF6 Mafia and GoT Mafia (tv not books)

Maybe Scooby Doo was the other one I was thinking of then. I thought there was one before that and TV mafia. My bad if not. I have to get back to work though, I'm 5 mins over my lunch and I don't like setting a bad example for trainees.


Yeah we can't count Scooby, you were scum and you didn't even really play and we lynched you and won. That game was like an 18 hour shit show.

So that means all we have is Tv Crossover. Not a good baseline, like i said.
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Meow1000
10/04/18 3:08:19 PM
#81:


Obellisk posted...
I do love that IGCD is now arguing that he's bad at mafia so he isn't scum.

Have we run out of all the good arguments like "I did this this game and it was sooo pro town"

He did this like crazy yesterday too.
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Meow1000
10/04/18 3:10:26 PM
#82:


The other problem I'm having reading him is a growing bias for wanting him out of the game because he's a blight to the game as he is and I really don't want to deal with him.
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Meow1000
10/04/18 3:19:47 PM
#83:


Meow1000 posted...
Neablis posted...
I thought blade was going to die last night, but don't think its a scum tell at this point

If IGCD is scum I'm starting to suspect scum expected me to die last night too

Bless you Chris

IGCD has done four conflicting things:

1. Say he had no interest in trying to figure me out
2. Agree that Dowolf looks like ****
3. Attack me for being alive day 3.
4. Do nothing to Dowolf at all?

If he's scum, scum most likely expected me to die last night.

I mean, it would sure be nice if you'd explain these contradictions instead of crying victim.

And I even know one of them shouldn't be that hard.
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htaeD
10/04/18 3:24:28 PM
#84:


htaeD posted...
Tange, why should sbell claim before anyone else?

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Meow1000
10/04/18 3:25:42 PM
#85:


htaeD posted...
htaeD posted...
Tange, why should sbell claim before anyone else?

We'll get our answer in 10-12 hours
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DoubleTangicide
10/04/18 3:27:18 PM
#86:


I didnt say he should claim before anyone else

I said I wanted him to claim
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htaeD
10/04/18 3:28:37 PM
#87:


Well, when we dont hear you say any other claim demands. Thats what it sounds like.
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Obellisk
10/04/18 3:32:35 PM
#88:


DoubleTangicide posted...
I didnt say he should claim before anyone else

I said I wanted him to claim


Oh good.

Everyone else, you must claim now. Tange needs to see my claim and i am not do to it before anyone else.
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Meow1000
10/04/18 3:32:59 PM
#89:


So he responded to the least important thing possible and nothing else.

"OK."
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Meow1000
10/04/18 3:34:50 PM
#90:


Obellisk posted...
DoubleTangicide posted...
I didnt say he should claim before anyone else

I said I wanted him to claim


Oh good.

Everyone else, you must claim now. Tange needs to see my claim and i am not do to it before anyone else.

"Oh"
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Obellisk
10/04/18 3:41:08 PM
#91:


Blade, master of killing conversation.
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masterplum
10/04/18 3:46:06 PM
#92:


I completely agree with blade in that most of the game seems to be watching the game instead of participating. Its possibly because of mzeros soft claim which he has botched terribly (so much in fact that I think he is town regardless of whether its a gambit)

I dont get the Tange hate. I havent felt anything he has done has been especially scummy... or useful, but I dont really understand why he is the focus here. Being bad isnt a scum tell. In terms of activity I put him with the other 2 or 3 players who have been equally not helpful but slightly more competent in forming opinions. They all are equally scummy
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ScareChan
10/04/18 3:47:22 PM
#93:


Meow1000 posted...
K I just got to work and I have a question

Who's been shading me for being alive? Scare's doing it and Dowolf was practically setting up to do it yesterday, but are those the only two?


Scare tossed the idea of rule 1ing you because red would want you dead by now. but then went back and iso red and ben and think you are town

I saw you came in and voted me but I feel you didnt read anything I posted at all
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Obellisk
10/04/18 3:50:09 PM
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Plum you see nothing wrong with what tange is doing in this topic?

Scare, tange opinions go.
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Meow1000
10/04/18 3:50:14 PM
#95:


ScareChan posted...
Meow1000 posted...
K I just got to work and I have a question

Who's been shading me for being alive? Scare's doing it and Dowolf was practically setting up to do it yesterday, but are those the only two?


Scare tossed the idea of rule 1ing you because red would want you dead by now. but then went back and iso red and ben and think you are town

I saw you came in and voted me but I feel you didnt read anything I posted at all

I only quick skimmed the early posts, I didn't even notice IGCD shaded me until SBell brought it up

Did you say anything important I may have missed
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Meow1000
10/04/18 3:50:48 PM
#96:


ScareChan posted...
Meow1000 posted...
K I just got to work and I have a question

Who's been shading me for being alive? Scare's doing it and Dowolf was practically setting up to do it yesterday, but are those the only two?


Scare tossed the idea of rule 1ing you because red would want you dead by now. but then went back and iso red and ben and think you are town

I saw you came in and voted me but I feel you didnt read anything I posted at all

Also you were shading me yesterday even before Dowolf so it's less of a factor.
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masterplum
10/04/18 3:50:56 PM
#97:


Obellisk posted...
Plum you see nothing wrong with what tange is doing in this topic?

Scare, tange opinions go.


Let me reread to make sure I didnt miss something, but on initial read no
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Meow1000
10/04/18 3:52:29 PM
#98:


Obellisk posted...
Blade, master of killing conversation.

Ok.
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masterplum
10/04/18 3:54:06 PM
#99:


Reread.

Yea, it sounds super normal to me. I dont feel he is expressing any emotion that isnt legitimate. If he thought you were lining up lynches that would be scummy, which would lead to wanting to lynch you.

Its all internally consistent.

I mean, I think the argument is silly and trying to get you to claim this second is hilarious. But once again, bad is not a scum tell
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Meow1000
10/04/18 3:54:13 PM
#100:


masterplum posted...
Obellisk posted...
Plum you see nothing wrong with what tange is doing in this topic?

Scare, tange opinions go.


Let me reread to make sure I didnt miss something, but on initial read no

I think he just looks bad and that SBell is overreacting, though, Neablis did throw in a couple of odd comments
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