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htaeD
10/08/18 7:26:55 PM
#201:


On the other hand, if the writing on the wall is what I think it is

fuck it

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Meow1000
10/08/18 7:27:05 PM
#202:


dowolf posted...
Meow1000 posted...
dowolf posted...
you know if anyone wants to comment on my analysis.

you're more than welcome to.

Dowolf is Scare the dragon

i still think the dragon's the entire scumteam.

Like, the game is so incredibly swingy if it's not, since one person getting killed knocks out two of their votes.

How is this any different from paralyzer causing lylo one day earlier
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ScareChan
10/08/18 7:27:20 PM
#203:


I said yesterday Neablis looked bad regardless of Miz flip

I think in context things make a lot more sense the way he has protested the lynch
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htaeD
10/08/18 7:29:08 PM
#204:


I'd say scums double player is a lot stronger than towns double player.
The latter would eventually have to claim
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dowolf
10/08/18 7:29:11 PM
#205:


Meow1000 posted...
dowolf posted...
Meow1000 posted...
dowolf posted...
you know if anyone wants to comment on my analysis.

you're more than welcome to.

Dowolf is Scare the dragon

i still think the dragon's the entire scumteam.

Like, the game is so incredibly swingy if it's not, since one person getting killed knocks out two of their votes.

How is this any different from paralyzer causing lylo one day earlier

...And how long has it been since we've had a paralyzer on b8? I don't think I've seen one since my earliest days of playing.
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htaeD
10/08/18 7:30:13 PM
#206:


Anyway, if anyone has questions for me
(and if scum arent hammering a town scare to death already)
Ask them now, before I sleep.
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dowolf
10/08/18 7:32:12 PM
#207:


Right, ISO complete.

Red:
1) Has what feels like a good interaction with Shad, but then ignores him for the remaining 45 hours of the day or whatever.
2) Has some suspicion of God that he quickly rolls into suspicion of Chris. I can't help but feel that the stuff on God is a bus.
3) Tange is town or there will be hat-eating.

So. Let's say it's both Shad and God. What does that give us...
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ScareChan
10/08/18 7:32:56 PM
#208:


##Vote: Death
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ScareChan
10/08/18 7:33:39 PM
#209:


not because death is leaving, he is only counter wagon to me right now
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htaeD
10/08/18 7:34:38 PM
#210:


I suppose thats fair. Too bad I cant stick around...

Ah well, if plans are being altered, the rest of town can always try to force an early hammer.
Preferably not on me, of course.
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htaeD
10/08/18 7:35:16 PM
#211:


I should hope not, the days of me staying up late are long gone!
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Meow1000
10/08/18 7:36:02 PM
#212:


dowolf posted...
Meow1000 posted...
dowolf posted...
Meow1000 posted...
dowolf posted...
you know if anyone wants to comment on my analysis.

you're more than welcome to.

Dowolf is Scare the dragon

i still think the dragon's the entire scumteam.

Like, the game is so incredibly swingy if it's not, since one person getting killed knocks out two of their votes.

How is this any different from paralyzer causing lylo one day earlier

...And how long has it been since we've had a paralyzer on b8? I don't think I've seen one since my earliest days of playing.

Maybe two or three years since it was phased out from being too common.
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dowolf
10/08/18 7:36:52 PM
#213:


...That recently?

Huh.

It's such an anti-fun role, I thought we got rid of it earlier.
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dowolf
10/08/18 7:37:24 PM
#214:


also an every day anonymous doublevote is way better than a one-time paralyze tbqh.
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Meow1000
10/08/18 7:43:26 PM
#215:


dowolf posted...
...That recently?

Huh.

It's such an anti-fun role, I thought we got rid of it earlier.

It was the "compromise" for silencer that still sucked.
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masterplum
10/08/18 7:47:38 PM
#216:


Paralyze and silence both suck. I can see uses for both but never as scum abilities
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dowolf
10/08/18 7:48:00 PM
#217:


[10] Chris - (Scare), MZero, (IGCD), (Han), SBell, Scare, (Ghost), Harris, Sheep, (ben), ben, Blade, Ghost, MI, red
[9] Sheep - dowolf, (Ghost), (Han), plum, (Neablis), Han, IGCD, Shad, Tange, Chris, Viserion, Neablis
[1] IGCD - (Chris), (Shad), (Harris), (Ghost), (Sheep), (SBell), (Harris), Death
[0] Tange - (ben), (red), (MI), (Ghost), (Neablis)
[0] Neablis (Viserion)
[0] Blade - (SBell), (Harris), (Chris)
[0] MZero (Chris), (Ben), (Ghost)
[0] Death - (Chris)
[0] Ben - (IGCD)
[0] Scare - (Ghost)
[0] Harris - (SBell), (Scare)
[0] plum - (Viserion)
[0] Han - (Viserion)
[0] Shad - (dowolf)

[9] Sheep - (IGCD), (plum), (Neablis), (Harris), Ghost, Shad, Neablis, (IGCD), Death, Tange, (dowolf), Scare, IGCD, dowolf, Viserion
[4] Scare - (SBell), (Harris), (Han), (Harris), Han, Blade, Sheep, Harris, (plum), (IGCD)
[1] IGCD - (Sheep), (plum), SBell, (Harris)
[1] Neablis - MZero
[0] Blade - (dowolf)
[0] Harris - (Neablis), (SBell), (Scare)
[0] MZero - (IGCD), (Ghost), (Blade), (Han), (Scare), (dowolf)
[0] Death - (Han), (Han)
[0] Shad - (SBell)
[0] Tange - (Han)

[4] MZero - (dowolf), Scare, IGCD, (Neablis), plum, Death
[2] IGCD - (SBell), SBell, Shad, (Scare)
[1] dowolf - MZero, (Death), (plum)
[1] No Lynch - Viserion
[0] SBell - (Tange), (Scare), (IGCD)
[0] Scare - (SBell), (Blade), (plum)
[0] Shad - (Scare)
[0] Death - (Scare)

What do we see? Wee see:

--Day 1, God has a meaningless splinter onto known scum Ben, but other than that only votes Chris and Sheep. He is voted by Shad, but is voted by neither Red nor Ben.

--Day 1, Shad has the second vote on God, but abandons him for SHeep at some point, where he stays. The only vote on him was from yours truly.

--Day 2, God votes MZero once, Scare super briefly, but is mostly content to sit on Sheep. Shad only votes Sheep.

--Day 3, Shad is second onto God, and God followed me onto MZero after an early vote onto SBell.

Shad looks a little suspicious from this, but the record seems to be really bad for God here tbqh.

also fuck silencer. that's down there with death miller.
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dowolf
10/08/18 7:49:20 PM
#218:


also those aren't final votals no, but i was too lazy to find those.
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dowolf
10/08/18 7:49:31 PM
#219:


(aren't final votals for d3)
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IfGodCouldDie
10/08/18 7:55:31 PM
#220:


masterplum posted...
I'm really not great at reading people straight up. It's not my strength. There are two things I am good at. Meta and understanding what other people are good at.

This is why Scare and god are my two strongest reads. Han was sure Scare is scum. Blade is sure scare is scum. I caught a strong scum vibe also of scare where he indicated he thought I was town for no reason whatsoever. That's great evidence

gods role does not make sense. If his role is town it undermines the basic underpinnings of a themed game of mafia, in that you don't kill your own flavor for no reason. There is so much thought that has been put into this game that you aren't going to have a minor character become a ninja ??? completely non canonically for no reason. It destroys the soul of your game.

These are by far the two best options. Nobody else is close. Nobody else has any of these problems.

If we can get down to a final 6 after these two are dead then we can really start dissecting these days and who was opposed to these two dying. That is the time when we can be more wobbly and start talking about crazy theories. But right now the choice is so clear.

So is your problem with my claim "Penny being a NINJA" or "Penny being so insignificant no one would pay attention to her being described as a ninja"
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Suprak the Stud
10/08/18 7:58:04 PM
#221:


Give Me VOTALS Or Give Me Death!:
[3] Scare - (IGCD), (plum), IGCD, plum, Death
[2] Death - Tange, Scare
[0] dowolf - (Death)
[0] Blade - (Scare), (Scare)

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch! Day ends at 10 PM CST tonight, or roughly three hours from now!
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DoubleTangicide
10/08/18 8:01:24 PM
#222:


Blade, where are you thinking of going here? Death, scare or somewhere else?
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masterplum
10/08/18 8:05:39 PM
#223:


I wouldnt be surprised if Scare saw the writing on the wall and is trying to make death look better by building a counter train against him and they are both scum
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masterplum
10/08/18 8:05:59 PM
#224:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
masterplum posted...
I'm really not great at reading people straight up. It's not my strength. There are two things I am good at. Meta and understanding what other people are good at.

This is why Scare and god are my two strongest reads. Han was sure Scare is scum. Blade is sure scare is scum. I caught a strong scum vibe also of scare where he indicated he thought I was town for no reason whatsoever. That's great evidence

gods role does not make sense. If his role is town it undermines the basic underpinnings of a themed game of mafia, in that you don't kill your own flavor for no reason. There is so much thought that has been put into this game that you aren't going to have a minor character become a ninja ??? completely non canonically for no reason. It destroys the soul of your game.

These are by far the two best options. Nobody else is close. Nobody else has any of these problems.

If we can get down to a final 6 after these two are dead then we can really start dissecting these days and who was opposed to these two dying. That is the time when we can be more wobbly and start talking about crazy theories. But right now the choice is so clear.

So is your problem with my claim "Penny being a NINJA" or "Penny being so insignificant no one would pay attention to her being described as a ninja"


The first one.
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DoubleTangicide
10/08/18 8:06:17 PM
#225:


That could be true as well

Scare looked so bad fighting with Blade

Which idk because I liked him at town up until that
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dowolf
10/08/18 8:10:39 PM
#226:


so not gonna lie doing all that research and then everyone ignoring it is kinda annoying.
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masterplum
10/08/18 8:12:25 PM
#227:


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IfGodCouldDie
10/08/18 8:12:33 PM
#228:


masterplum posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
masterplum posted...
I'm really not great at reading people straight up. It's not my strength. There are two things I am good at. Meta and understanding what other people are good at.

This is why Scare and god are my two strongest reads. Han was sure Scare is scum. Blade is sure scare is scum. I caught a strong scum vibe also of scare where he indicated he thought I was town for no reason whatsoever. That's great evidence

gods role does not make sense. If his role is town it undermines the basic underpinnings of a themed game of mafia, in that you don't kill your own flavor for no reason. There is so much thought that has been put into this game that you aren't going to have a minor character become a ninja ??? completely non canonically for no reason. It destroys the soul of your game.

These are by far the two best options. Nobody else is close. Nobody else has any of these problems.

If we can get down to a final 6 after these two are dead then we can really start dissecting these days and who was opposed to these two dying. That is the time when we can be more wobbly and start talking about crazy theories. But right now the choice is so clear.

So is your problem with my claim "Penny being a NINJA" or "Penny being so insignificant no one would pay attention to her being described as a ninja"


The first one.

Ok so you are taking the name of my role way too literally?
##Unvote
##Vote:Plum


This is way too shitty of flavour meta for a player this experienced.
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masterplum
10/08/18 8:13:48 PM
#229:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
masterplum posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
masterplum posted...
I'm really not great at reading people straight up. It's not my strength. There are two things I am good at. Meta and understanding what other people are good at.

This is why Scare and god are my two strongest reads. Han was sure Scare is scum. Blade is sure scare is scum. I caught a strong scum vibe also of scare where he indicated he thought I was town for no reason whatsoever. That's great evidence

gods role does not make sense. If his role is town it undermines the basic underpinnings of a themed game of mafia, in that you don't kill your own flavor for no reason. There is so much thought that has been put into this game that you aren't going to have a minor character become a ninja ??? completely non canonically for no reason. It destroys the soul of your game.

These are by far the two best options. Nobody else is close. Nobody else has any of these problems.

If we can get down to a final 6 after these two are dead then we can really start dissecting these days and who was opposed to these two dying. That is the time when we can be more wobbly and start talking about crazy theories. But right now the choice is so clear.

So is your problem with my claim "Penny being a NINJA" or "Penny being so insignificant no one would pay attention to her being described as a ninja"


The first one.

Ok so you are taking the name of my role way too literally?
##Unvote
##Vote:Plum


This is way too shitty of flavour meta for a player this experienced.


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masterplum
10/08/18 8:15:12 PM
#230:


Lets play it this way

You explain to me how your character makes sense gaining ninja like powers.
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Neablis
10/08/18 8:17:14 PM
#231:


I liked what you found dowolf it was i teresring.

I am going to be in and out.

So we have really two options with the lynch right now.

So scare is in the hammer posituon right now...if hes town possibly game over.

I am not sure if scare is scum here though, he looked bad against blade though ehhh.

I think its a strange day, IGCD should of been super hard pushing me with what he has been saying. But meh, deaths vot ehere looks bad as it def outs scare if town into the super hammer zone but hes goin to bed...
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Neablis
10/08/18 8:18:10 PM
#232:


Err and if igcd is town idk what to make of him going on plum now
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IfGodCouldDie
10/08/18 8:19:42 PM
#233:


masterplum posted...
Lets play it this way

You explain to me how your character makes sense gaining ninja like powers.

Oh I don't know, the way it is explained in my role pm which I have stated so many times and like twice for you specifically. The ninja role modifier is explained by the fact that my character is so insignificant that no one pays attention to what she does.
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dowolf
10/08/18 8:20:05 PM
#234:


Neablis posted...
So we have really two options with the lynch right now.


i want a third path.

i want that third path to be god so bad.

And it's, what, 2 on both of the other lynches? We are 100% not stuck on that.

...You know what? Let's see if we can't get something started.

##Vote: God
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Neablis
10/08/18 8:21:39 PM
#235:


I will say dowolf is not up for lynch and he does all that leg work i think hes town.

I thunk blade/plum/tange is town as well.

I am in this pseudo lynch pool of scare/death/shad/igcd

Shad wouod make a lot of sense tbh he did just enough interaction to escape notice...

Scare seems to be playing super suicidal
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IfGodCouldDie
10/08/18 8:21:44 PM
#236:


Neablis posted...
I liked what you found dowolf it was i teresring.

I am going to be in and out.

So we have really two options with the lynch right now.

So scare is in the hammer posituon right now...if hes town possibly game over.

I am not sure if scare is scum here though, he looked bad against blade though ehhh.

I think its a strange day, IGCD should of been super hard pushing me with what he has been saying. But meh, deaths vot ehere looks bad as it def outs scare if town into the super hammer zone but hes goin to bed...

There is no reason to push you though. Either you die tonight, catch blades killer or town has Blade alive for another day and scum has to kill a question mark.
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ScareChan
10/08/18 8:22:35 PM
#237:


##Unvote
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dowolf
10/08/18 8:24:01 PM
#238:


IfGodCouldDie posted...

There is no reason to push you though. Either you die tonight, catch blades killer or town has Blade alive for another day and scum has to kill a question mark.

God scum means Blade is town 100%.

Good to know.
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Meow1000
10/08/18 8:24:16 PM
#239:


I just worked a "9:45-3:45" shift from 9:37--8:00

...Aw yeah?
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dowolf
10/08/18 8:24:33 PM
#240:


ScareChan posted...
##Unvote
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ok with this

dammit scare

"i looked at it three days ago" is all you say on everything, and then you just follow God???
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Meow1000
10/08/18 8:25:19 PM
#241:


dowolf posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...

There is no reason to push you though. Either you die tonight, catch blades killer or town has Blade alive for another day and scum has to kill a question mark.

God scum means Blade is town 100%.

Good to know.

"Oh"
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dowolf
10/08/18 8:26:49 PM
#242:


Meow1000 posted...

"Oh"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJR6my7A_Vk" data-time="&start=60

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IfGodCouldDie
10/08/18 8:26:53 PM
#243:


dowolf posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...

There is no reason to push you though. Either you die tonight, catch blades killer or town has Blade alive for another day and scum has to kill a question mark.

God scum means Blade is town 100%.

Good to know.

Just because I am confident in him being town does not mean he is 100% town. He is the most concrete town read I have, I don't believe scum Blade lets me abuse him like I did in the position I was to be mislynched. He is also playing way too dejected for a scum player on the brink of winning.
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Meow1000
10/08/18 8:26:55 PM
#244:


dowolf posted...
ScareChan posted...
##Unvote
##vote: Plum


ok with this

dammit scare

"i looked at it three days ago" is all you say on everything, and then you just follow God???

He has a plan
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Meow1000
10/08/18 8:27:28 PM
#245:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
dowolf posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...

There is no reason to push you though. Either you die tonight, catch blades killer or town has Blade alive for another day and scum has to kill a question mark.

God scum means Blade is town 100%.

Good to know.

Just because I am confident in him being town does not mean he is 100% town. He is the most concrete town read I have, I don't believe scum Blade lets me abuse him like I did in the position I was to be mislynched. He is also playing way too dejected for a scum player on the brink of winning.

Didn't you say earlier today you wanted to lynch me
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Neablis
10/08/18 8:28:04 PM
#246:


Meow1000 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
dowolf posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...

There is no reason to push you though. Either you die tonight, catch blades killer or town has Blade alive for another day and scum has to kill a question mark.

God scum means Blade is town 100%.

Good to know.

Just because I am confident in him being town does not mean he is 100% town. He is the most concrete town read I have, I don't believe scum Blade lets me abuse him like I did in the position I was to be mislynched. He is also playing way too dejected for a scum player on the brink of winning.

Didn't you say earlier today you wanted to lynch me


Yes
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IfGodCouldDie
10/08/18 8:28:53 PM
#247:


Meow1000 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
dowolf posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...

There is no reason to push you though. Either you die tonight, catch blades killer or town has Blade alive for another day and scum has to kill a question mark.

God scum means Blade is town 100%.

Good to know.

Just because I am confident in him being town does not mean he is 100% town. He is the most concrete town read I have, I don't believe scum Blade lets me abuse him like I did in the position I was to be mislynched. He is also playing way too dejected for a scum player on the brink of winning.

Didn't you say earlier today you wanted to lynch me

That might have been before the mass claim or yesterday. At this point I am more confident in you being town than anyone else actually.
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Neablis
10/08/18 8:31:02 PM
#248:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Meow1000 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
dowolf posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...

There is no reason to push you though. Either you die tonight, catch blades killer or town has Blade alive for another day and scum has to kill a question mark.

God scum means Blade is town 100%.

Good to know.

Just because I am confident in him being town does not mean he is 100% town. He is the most concrete town read I have, I don't believe scum Blade lets me abuse him like I did in the position I was to be mislynched. He is also playing way too dejected for a scum player on the brink of winning.

Didn't you say earlier today you wanted to lynch me

That might have been before the mass claim or yesterday. At this point I am more confident in you being town than anyone else actually.


But the explanation you just gave came days ago right?
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Shaduln
10/08/18 8:31:10 PM
#249:


So IGCD, how do you feel about Scare, who you were just voting, following you onto plum?
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dowolf
10/08/18 8:32:04 PM
#250:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
I am ok with lynching scare and Blade, preferably Blade first.

post was at 10:07 am yesterday, 12-059.
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