Poll of the Day > people of all genders can be pregnant now, ok?

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MannerSaurus
10/11/18 12:14:59 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
I'm not watching that video based on the thumbnail because it looks absolutely pointless.


I was trying to lighten the mood......... heh. It was an animation video of the Yahoo! Answers question "HOW IS BABBY FORMED? HOW GIRL GET PREGNANT."
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MannerSaurus
10/11/18 12:19:59 PM
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Look, there is no way we are going to meet in the middle, I don't even think my transgender or transsexual (again, why are these both synonyms??????) are actually changed genders, and I've had this discussion with them respectfully. I totally support what they are doing, their life style, how they want to identify, but I am 100% solid that God (and since I imagine you don't believe: The universe, the world, atoms, chance, genetics, DNA) made you something, you can't change it. You can't change your race, your gender, where you were born, your past. It just doesn't work that way. But I hold you to a tremendous level of respect and I know this is a dead end so I'm just going to bow my head out and walk away. But I stand firmly in math and science, and someone feeling a certain way ... as much as I care about them and support them... doesn't ... alter reality. We aren't in some trippy LSD world where you can think an elephant in to existence. We are mortals in this flesh, and feelings don't matter. They matter to me, as a friend to hypothetical person, but they don't matter to the actual world.
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Jen0125
10/11/18 12:25:29 PM
#53:


Definitions:

gender
/jendr/
noun

the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).

sex
/seks/
noun

either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and many other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions.

One is biological, one is not. They are not synonyms. One is a social construct and one has do to with reproductive functions.

They are not synonyms.
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kangolcone
10/11/18 12:33:02 PM
#54:


MannerSaurus posted...
kangolcone posted...
MannerSaurus posted...
Nichtcrawler X posted...
This is just about the difference between (physical) sex and (mental) gender.


Nope. They are synonyms. It is the "gender wage" gap. In engineering you ask what gender a plumbing or electrical connection is, Male or Female. A few quack Liberal psychologists say you can identify as an attack helicopter, but in science, gender and sex are the same fucking thing, and we are a binary species. End of discussion.


Good thing we are discussing gender as a social construct and not the end of electrical connections then, isnt it?


Except that the human race and most (if not all) mammals are sexually handled the same way as electrical connections, whether you like it or not. I can racially identify as black, socially, and guess what? Tough shit. I'm not black.


Who defines what black is though? Since you are so educated on matters of science, I would think you would understand that there are no biological markers distinguishing between black humans and white humans.
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adjl
10/11/18 12:38:14 PM
#55:


MannerSaurus posted...
There's only two sex organs. There is receive and give. Sperm and egg. On or off. Dark or light. In and out. We. Are. A. Binary. Species.


But that's not binary, because there are intermediates. They're typically called "ambiguous genitalia," resulting from any number of aberrations in the sexual differentiation process. That's also ignoring that there are more factors involved than just genitals. Hormones, gonads, external genitalia, internal reproductive organs, bone structure, secondary sexual characteristics, neurological makeup... Typically, they all line up with one sex or the other, but as I said, it's not at all unheard of for one or more of them to deviate. And that's even without considering the psychological aspects.

If it is possible to exist somewhere between the two extremes, then, by definition, it's not a binary system.

Kyuubi4269 posted...
_AdjI_ posted...
Not really. There's a fairly broad range of conditions that can result in some degree of hermaphroditism

My male body isn't a physical affliction, hermaphroditism is.


Keep reading, the last sentence of the post addresses that.

MannerSaurus posted...
Facts do not care about your feelings.


They do if you're making factual statements about your feelings. It is factually accurate to state that I feel happy right now. It is also factually accurate to state that I feel masculine right now. Why would it be any less factually accurate for somebody else to make the same statement?
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MannerSaurus
10/11/18 12:38:33 PM
#56:


Jen0125 posted...
Definitions:

gender
/jendr/
noun

the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).

sex
/seks/
noun

either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and many other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions.

One is biological, one is not. They are not synonyms. One is a social construct and one has do to with reproductive functions.

They are not synonyms.


Webster recently updated "assault rifle" to include semi-automatic weapons, when, they are not. Assault rifles have an exact definition, no matter what the Liberal hysteria after Sandy Hook caused Webster to change the definition of, "assault rifle" is not a semi-automatic weapon and has an exact definition.
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adjl
10/11/18 12:44:01 PM
#57:


kangolcone posted...
MannerSaurus posted...
kangolcone posted...
MannerSaurus posted...
Nichtcrawler X posted...
This is just about the difference between (physical) sex and (mental) gender.


Nope. They are synonyms. It is the "gender wage" gap. In engineering you ask what gender a plumbing or electrical connection is, Male or Female. A few quack Liberal psychologists say you can identify as an attack helicopter, but in science, gender and sex are the same fucking thing, and we are a binary species. End of discussion.


Good thing we are discussing gender as a social construct and not the end of electrical connections then, isnt it?


Except that the human race and most (if not all) mammals are sexually handled the same way as electrical connections, whether you like it or not. I can racially identify as black, socially, and guess what? Tough shit. I'm not black.


Who defines what black is though? Since you are so educated on matters of science, I would think you would understand that there are no biological markers distinguishing between black humans and white humans.


It's actually not a bad example. He's not going to be physically black, no, but he could certainly be sufficiently involved in the culture of a black community as to count himself among them. That's a very real and practical reason to think of himself as being black, though in doing so he has to bear in mind that he is going to miss out on some of that experience simply because he won't be treated as a visible minority by others (much like a trans woman isn't going to experience any of the troubles associated with having periods). The concept of communities having honorary members like that is certainly nothing new, even if those communities are largely drawn along visible physical lines.
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Jen0125
10/11/18 12:45:29 PM
#58:


MannerSaurus posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Definitions:

gender
/jendr/
noun

the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).

sex
/seks/
noun

either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and many other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions.

One is biological, one is not. They are not synonyms. One is a social construct and one has do to with reproductive functions.

They are not synonyms.


Webster recently updated "assault rifle" to include semi-automatic weapons, when, they are not. Assault rifles have an exact definition, no matter what the Liberal hysteria after Sandy Hook caused Webster to change the definition of, "assault rifle" is not a semi-automatic weapon and has an exact definition.


Again, we're talking about human beings and scientific defintions. Not objects.
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adjl
10/11/18 12:45:40 PM
#59:


MannerSaurus posted...
Webster recently updated "assault rifle" to include semi-automatic weapons, when, they are not. Assault rifles have an exact definition, no matter what the Liberal hysteria after Sandy Hook caused Webster to change the definition of, "assault rifle" is not a semi-automatic weapon and has an exact definition.


And that definition includes semi-automatic weapons now. Languages evolve, deal with it.

Well, except for adding "virtually" as a definition for "literally." That particular bit of linguistic evolution can go fellate a goat while sodomizing itself with a cactus. English does not need another word that is its own antonym.
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MannerSaurus
10/11/18 12:54:02 PM
#60:


adjl posted...
MannerSaurus posted...
Webster recently updated "assault rifle" to include semi-automatic weapons, when, they are not. Assault rifles have an exact definition, no matter what the Liberal hysteria after Sandy Hook caused Webster to change the definition of, "assault rifle" is not a semi-automatic weapon and has an exact definition.


And that definition includes semi-automatic weapons now. Languages evolve, deal with it.

Well, except for adding "virtually" as a definition for "literally." That particular bit of linguistic evolution can go fellate a goat while sodomizing itself with a cactus. English does not need another word that is its own antonym.


Language doesn't evolve because a few "scare everybody" reporters and panicking Liberal moms want it to. (Talking about guns here, not the sex/gender thing.) Assault Rifle has an exact usage in technological armory invention and usage. You are 100% wrong on this, son. In 50 years, my pistol will not be an "assault rifle" because Webster thinks it is after school shootings start happening with pistols. Sorry. It's a pistol. Not an assault rifle.
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Aculo
10/11/18 1:00:19 PM
#61:


MannerSaurus posted...
So how do we reproduce? How is babby formed?

first of all, ftfy, second of all, i have personally formed babby with my wife, and we recorded it so i can show you exactly how we reproduce, ok?
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adjl
10/11/18 1:03:16 PM
#62:


MannerSaurus posted...
Language doesn't evolve because a few "scare everybody" reporters and panicking Liberal moms want it to.


Correct. It evolves because the usage of the word changes as people want/need it to. Words only ever have the meaning that people give to them. If enough people start using a word a new way, that becomes a new definition for the word.

Is that always a good thing? Of course not. Like any natural evolutionary process, there's no end goal. That doesn't change that it's going to happen, though, and you need to deal with that. If the direction it's evolving is bad, or less efficient, you can resist that, but if you try to resist it by pretending it's not happening, you're just going to end up communicating poorly because you're ignoring how words are used.
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DPsx7
10/11/18 1:54:21 PM
#63:


MannerSaurus posted...
Jen0125 posted...
I'm not watching that video based on the thumbnail because it looks absolutely pointless.

And of course gender is in your head. Your gender is all about how you feel. It's your mental state. You keep coming to with these utterly ridiculous "genders" when most people are completely reasonable. You're using the Tumblr community version of the gender spectrum to mock completely legitimate people for no reason. It honestly doesn't matter how you feel because the science and mental health community say otherwise so your opinion, frankly, doesn't matter.

And you really need to look up the difference between sex and gender because they are not the same. To keep repeating it is really foolish.


Science does not agree with you. A few quack psychologists do. Sex and gender are the same thing now matter how much you imagine they aren't. Next you will tell me race and skin color or something are different concepts, and that you can be transracial if you identify as a different race.

"Your gender is all about how you feel."

Again: Facts do not care about your feelings.


I'm siding with Jen on this one. If they were the same we wouldn't have separate words.
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Lokarin
10/11/18 1:56:19 PM
#64:


DPsx7 posted...
MannerSaurus posted...
Jen0125 posted...
I'm not watching that video based on the thumbnail because it looks absolutely pointless.

And of course gender is in your head. Your gender is all about how you feel. It's your mental state. You keep coming to with these utterly ridiculous "genders" when most people are completely reasonable. You're using the Tumblr community version of the gender spectrum to mock completely legitimate people for no reason. It honestly doesn't matter how you feel because the science and mental health community say otherwise so your opinion, frankly, doesn't matter.

And you really need to look up the difference between sex and gender because they are not the same. To keep repeating it is really foolish.


Science does not agree with you. A few quack psychologists do. Sex and gender are the same thing now matter how much you imagine they aren't. Next you will tell me race and skin color or something are different concepts, and that you can be transracial if you identify as a different race.

"Your gender is all about how you feel."

Again: Facts do not care about your feelings.


I'm siding with Jen on this one. If they were the same we wouldn't have separate words.


Also race and skin colour are different concepts. Did you know you can identify the race of a person from their bones alone?
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Nightengale
10/11/18 2:08:54 PM
#65:


why does everyone woobify mansaurus again
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Aculo
10/11/18 2:14:48 PM
#66:


Nightengale posted...
woobify

the fuck does this even mean?
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TheCyborgNinja
10/11/18 2:24:05 PM
#67:


Ummm... no. It takes every fibre of my being not to punch couples who say "we're pregnant" in the face. Unless it's literally both of you carrying babies, like a lesbian couple who have both got one, shut the fuck up.
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Aculo
10/11/18 2:27:11 PM
#68:


TheCyborgNinja posted...
Ummm... no. It takes every fibre of my being not to punch couples who say "we're pregnant" in the face. Unless it's literally both of you carrying babies, like a lesbian couple who have both got one, shut the fuck up.

i've never heard anyone actually say that except in movies and tv shows, and even then it was either done sarcastically, or ironically, ok?
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TheCyborgNinja
10/11/18 2:28:05 PM
#69:


Aculo posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
Ummm... no. It takes every fibre of my being not to punch couples who say "we're pregnant" in the face. Unless it's literally both of you carrying babies, like a lesbian couple who have both got one, shut the fuck up.

i've never heard anyone actually say that except in movies and tv shows, and even then it was either done sarcastically, or ironically, ok?

I have, in person. I literally said "oh... damn it." and they got all weird.
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Aculo
10/11/18 2:30:36 PM
#70:


TheCyborgNinja posted...
Aculo posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
Ummm... no. It takes every fibre of my being not to punch couples who say "we're pregnant" in the face. Unless it's literally both of you carrying babies, like a lesbian couple who have both got one, shut the fuck up.

i've never heard anyone actually say that except in movies and tv shows, and even then it was either done sarcastically, or ironically, ok?

I have, in person. I literally said "oh... damn it." and they got all weird.

you were well within your right to hit them, of course, ok?

good for you for restraining, ok?
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TheCyborgNinja
10/11/18 2:31:58 PM
#71:


Aculo posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
Aculo posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
Ummm... no. It takes every fibre of my being not to punch couples who say "we're pregnant" in the face. Unless it's literally both of you carrying babies, like a lesbian couple who have both got one, shut the fuck up.

i've never heard anyone actually say that except in movies and tv shows, and even then it was either done sarcastically, or ironically, ok?

I have, in person. I literally said "oh... damn it." and they got all weird.

you were well within your right to hit them, of course, ok?

good for you for restraining, ok?

It was the most resolve I've ever had to muster. If it hadn't been a dude I'd known my whole life, I would've ended the friendship on the spot.
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MannerSaurus
10/11/18 2:33:13 PM
#72:


TheCyborgNinja posted...
Aculo posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
Aculo posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
Ummm... no. It takes every fibre of my being not to punch couples who say "we're pregnant" in the face. Unless it's literally both of you carrying babies, like a lesbian couple who have both got one, shut the fuck up.

i've never heard anyone actually say that except in movies and tv shows, and even then it was either done sarcastically, or ironically, ok?

I have, in person. I literally said "oh... damn it." and they got all weird.

you were well within your right to hit them, of course, ok?

good for you for restraining, ok?

It was the most resolve I've ever had to muster. If it hadn't been a dude I'd known my whole life, I would've ended the friendship on the spot.


Dude, I am crying laughing. Thank you, I needed this. I've had a terrible morning.
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adjl
10/11/18 2:58:06 PM
#73:


DPsx7 posted...
I'm siding with Jen on this one. If they were the same we wouldn't have separate words.


Eh, I wouldn't say that. English is an utter cesspool of redundancy. There are a great many words that have no purpose except to be an alternative to other words, especially when you start looking at ones that are used as euphemisms for no-no words. The evolution of "gender" into its own term is very much a matter of erasing that redundancy, not anything that should suggest it's never been redundant.

TheCyborgNinja posted...
Ummm... no. It takes every fibre of my being not to punch couples who say "we're pregnant" in the face. Unless it's literally both of you carrying babies, like a lesbian couple who have both got one, shut the fuck up.


Eh, I'm fine with that. It's a little awkward, and I personally wouldn't say it, but it's basically the same as "we're expecting," making the point that they are both having a child and not foisting parenthood off on the mother. There are cringier things out there than that.
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Nichtcrawler X
10/11/18 3:39:59 PM
#74:


TheCyborgNinja posted...
It was the most resolve I've ever had to muster. If it hadn't been a dude I'd known my whole life, I would've ended the friendship on the spot.


For what? Showing commitment to his his progeny?
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Revelation34
10/11/18 7:35:53 PM
#75:


Nichtcrawler X posted...

Yes, his entire argument just makes it very clear language is still catching up to science and society.


This is an ironic post.

Jen0125 posted...
Definitions:

gender
/jendr/
noun

the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).

sex
/seks/
noun

either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and many other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions.

One is biological, one is not. They are not synonyms. One is a social construct and one has do to with reproductive functions.

They are not synonyms.


Use a real dictionary. https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/gender

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/thesaurus/sex
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Nichtcrawler X
10/11/18 7:37:37 PM
#76:


Revelation34 posted...

This is an ironic post.


Should I have said psychology? At the very least, I am assuming it is clear what I meant.
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Zareth
10/11/18 8:27:26 PM
#77:


adjl posted...
English is an utter cesspool of redundancy. There are a great many words that have no purpose except to be an alternative to other words

A perfect example of this is how some minorities find "colored person" offensive but "person of color" acceptable when they mean the exact same thing.
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Runner_style
10/11/18 8:35:57 PM
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Zareth posted...
adjl posted...
English is an utter cesspool of redundancy. There are a great many words that have no purpose except to be an alternative to other words

A perfect example of this is how some minorities find "colored person" offensive but "person of color" acceptable when they mean the exact same thing.


I dunno about that, it could vary Country to Country, over here in the UK when it comes to being offended (or rather offended on behalf of others) tend to either be white university students, middle-class people that have too much time on their hands, brain-dead social media users, or people on Mumsnet.
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Lokarin
10/11/18 9:18:52 PM
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Zareth posted...
adjl posted...
English is an utter cesspool of redundancy. There are a great many words that have no purpose except to be an alternative to other words

A perfect example of this is how some minorities find "colored person" offensive but "person of color" acceptable when they mean the exact same thing.


And yet "person of white" is racist
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Fam_Fam
10/11/18 9:28:21 PM
#80:


Lokarin posted...
Zareth posted...
adjl posted...
English is an utter cesspool of redundancy. There are a great many words that have no purpose except to be an alternative to other words

A perfect example of this is how some minorities find "colored person" offensive but "person of color" acceptable when they mean the exact same thing.


And yet "person of white" is racist


people make the argument for the ordering of the words as one of focusing on the person rather than their attribute is better, so putting them as a person first over their color (or whatever attribute)
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