Current Events > Historic DOCTOR WHO-SJW episode w/Female Lead premiere destroys previous ratings

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Gender-Swapping and Feminist media is perfectly fine and can often increase ratings and the box-office. Like anything else, it just has to be done well.
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it was also a good episode
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I'll continue not caring about British television

There was nothing SJW about it. It's established lore that Time Lord's can regenerate into different sexes and has been that way since at least the 80's.

It was also pretty good.
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Coffeebeanz posted...

There was nothing SJW about it. It's established lore that Time Lord's can regenerate into different sexes and has been that way since at least the 80's.

And yet, alt-right snowflakes were pissed about a female Doctor.
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There was a game called Life is Strange that had some heavy sjw messages, but I really enjoyed it because it was a well made story based game. If something is good, even if i disagree with the message, it wont stop me from enjoying it.
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Coffeebeanz posted...

There was nothing SJW about it. It's established lore that Time Lord's can regenerate into different sexes and has been that way since at least the 80's.

This.
There's episodes from the 70s that go way deeper into "SJW" than this one did.

I think that the new creative crew after fans got sick of the same person heading the show poorly for seasons had more to do with the increase in ratings then any SJW feminist agenda. Dr. Who needed fresh blood beyond a new doctor.
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creativerealms posted...

I think that the new creative crew after fans got sick of the game person heading the show poorly for seasons had more to do with the increase in ratings then any SJW feminist agenda. Dr. Who needed fresh blood beyond a new doctor.

The first episode felt like RTD's run all over again. That's a very good thing.

This is supposed to be a sort of soft reboot for the series. New Doctor, new director, new lore with little focus on older stuff. You could tell the last season of Capaldi's run was just so stale and unnecessary, though it did end strongly. It was way past time for Moffat to go.
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More like Dr Poo, imo
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Funbazooka posted...

More like Dr Poo, imo

No, that was Colin Baker's run: 1984-1986.

Just like with those SJW Marvel comic reboots there'll be an initial spike of interest and then the numbers will plummet when they see through the agenda driven farce these things tend to be
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Funbazooka posted...

More like Dr Poo, imo

No, that was Colin Baker's run: 1984-1986.

I went back and watched those and man, the Fifth Doctor was such a smug asshole.

I actually kinda liked it for being so daring.
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ZombiePelican posted...

Just like with those SJW Marvel comic reboots there'll be an initial spike of interest and then the numbers will plummet when they see through the agenda driven farce these things tend to be

The fact that it has a new director is enough for most Who fans, and you can already tell the difference is for the better. The pacing of the first episode was miles beyond the last few seasons.
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Coffeebeanz posted...

I went back and watched those and man, the Fifth Doctor was such a smug asshole.

Fifth was the tall guy with the bad combover. Sixth was Colin.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Coffeebeanz posted...

I went back and watched those and man, the Fifth Doctor was such a smug asshole.

Fifth was the tall guy with the bad combover. Sixth was Colin.

Oh yes you're right.

I like Fifth. Kind of a pushover though. Kinda like if Charlie Brown had a TARDIS. I meant Sixth.
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Coffeebeanz posted...

Kinda like if Charlie Brown had a TARDIS.

That's an accurate assessment, yes.

I may steal that in the future.

Sixth was basically the anti-Fifth.

Fifth was submissive, friendly, and had kind of poor self esteem. Basically that nice kid in middle school that didn't have a lot of friends but probably could have if he just had more confidence.

Sixth was a flamboyantly arrogant asshole and surprisingly violent. And the sad part is he actually probably was the smartest iteration, but he was just so smug about it.
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Coffeebeanz posted...

Sixth was basically the anti-Fifth.

Fifth was submissive, friendly, and had kind of poor self esteem. Basically that nice kid in middle school that didn't have a lot of friends but probably could have if he just had more confidence.

Sixth was a flamboyantly arrogant asshole and surprisingly violent. And the sad part is he actually probably was the smartest iteration, but he was just so smug about it.

Colin gets too much shit. He was a darker take, but it was pretty well done. I think a lot of it has to do with that god-awful costume they made him wear (which even he hated).
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Seems like people just watched for the cringe.

ZombiePelican posted...

Just like with those SJW Marvel comic reboots there'll be an initial spike of interest and then the numbers will plummet when they see through the agenda driven farce these things tend to be

Those sjw Marvel comics have also garnered a reputation for being badly written, too overt with their political intentions, and having ugly artwork. If this new Doctor Who turns out to be well-executed, it could have staying power.
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SSJKirby posted...

it was also a good episode

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Hairistotle posted...

wtf sjw messages were in life is strange @Prestoff

lesbians
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haven't there been like 10 different doctors? does it really matter that now one has a vagina?
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Questionmarktarius posted...

The first episode felt like RTD's run all over again. That's a very good thing.

ew, no
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I thought the first episode had far better pacing than previous episodes.
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Life is Strange was heavy on the hipster stuff, but i don't recall any real sjw stuff.
Are you getting sjw and hipster confused?
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Esrac posted...

Those sjw Marvel comics have also garnered a reputation for being badly written, too overt with their political intentions, and having ugly artwork.

And what makes you think this will be immune when it's just following the formula these things set?

Esrac posted...

. If this new Doctor Who turns out to be well-executed, it could have staying power.

It won't considering it was made purely for the sake of pushing an agenda and not making entertaining television
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I thought they had already been airing episodes with the female dr who.

I started seeing it trending again and I thought it was for another season with the actress.
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ZombiePelican posted...

It won't considering it was made purely for the sake of pushing an agenda and not making entertaining television

Says who?
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ZombiePelican posted...

It won't considering it was made purely for the sake of pushing an agenda and not making entertaining television

Prove it.
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i admit i fell off at the end of smith's run but didn't they turn the master into a woman last season? why are people screeching about SJWs here? I mean, other than the fact that they're terrified of women due to bad experiences involving their micropenises or whatever.
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RedWhiteBlue posted...

At what point will a woman lead be seen as ok and not pushing an agenda?

When a franchise is created with a woman lead from the beginning. Off the top of my head, there's the Underworld franchise. You know, the never-ending conflict between vampires and werewolves. Shit movies btw, I don't care for them.

No one complains that the main character is a woman. Absolutely no one. If the main hero wasn't a woman the franchise probably wouldn't have been successful actually.
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ZombiePelican posted...

It won't considering it was made purely for the sake of pushing an agenda and not making entertaining television

Did you watch the episode itself, or are you refusing to out of principle? Because I understand why people throw tantrums about stuff like this, but it was a genuinely good episode of Doctor Who.

If you did watch it, and didn't like it, what aspects jumped out at you as being particularly bad? Personally I thought Ryan, Grace and The Doctor were the strongest characters in the episode, with Graham shaping up to be pretty good near the end as well. I thought the only weak link was Yasmin.
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MrMallard posted...

ZombiePelican posted...

It won't considering it was made purely for the sake of pushing an agenda and not making entertaining television

Did you watch the episode itself, or are you refusing to out of principle? Because I understand why people throw tantrums about stuff like this, but it was a genuinely good episode of Doctor Who.

If you did watch it, and didn't like it, what aspects jumped out at you as being particularly bad? Personally I thought Ryan, Grace and The Doctor were the strongest characters in the episode, with Graham shaping up to be pretty good near the end as well. I thought the only weak link was Yasmin.

Agreed i hope they can flush out yasmin's charecter more
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I don't remember people bitching much about the master being female in recent series, so why is the doctor being one such an issue?

Long established the doctor can change sex when he regenerates.

Was also a pretty good episode too.
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ZombiePelican posted...

Just like with those SJW Marvel comic reboots there'll be an initial spike of interest and then the numbers will plummet when they see through the agenda driven farce these things tend to be

This just the fact the new director made two of the worst episodes ive ever seem baffles me
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Prestoff posted...

There was a game called Life is Strange that had some heavy sjw messages, but I really enjoyed it because it was a well made story based game. If something is good, even if i disagree with the message, it wont stop me from enjoying it.

I know some PC crowd type people who said the game made them cry. lol

What was sjw about life is strange lol?
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SaithSayer posted...

Prestoff posted...

There was a game called Life is Strange that had some heavy sjw messages, but I really enjoyed it because it was a well made story based game. If something is good, even if i disagree with the message, it wont stop me from enjoying it.

I know some PC crowd type people who said the game made them cry. lol

Proud of it. That game made me feel things, especially towards its endgame.
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Doctor Who is literally a children's programme tbf
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I saw a video bitching out Chibnall's other episodes, and while I can see why people dislike them, I see his episodes as pretty refreshing among Moffat's tenure.

42 was just a solid episode IMO, it was one of the RTD episodes where it felt like The Doctor was actually suffering - Tennant did a really good job at selling the pain. It was a nice little self-contained episode, and a minor favorite from that season.

The Silurian two-parter wasn't perfect, but I liked how it was closer to home in a lot of aspects compared to the rest of the season it was present in. The setting was small, a little mining town out in the country, with the stakes being pretty big but not like universe-shattering or being centred around shilling The Doctor and building "iconic" moments. You've got the potential for peace between two different races, with extremists on both sides jeopardising that peace through their hatred of each other. It was a nice, basic plot that's been done before, a taste of the old amongst all of the new - it didn't stand out, but it was enjoyable Who.

The Power of Three had a weak villain, sure - but it was a character piece first and foremost, and as someone who didn't really take to Amy and Rory all that much, it was one of a handful of episodes where I actually enjoyed them (the only other episode I recall really liking them in was Amy's Choice). There's nothing wrong with a bit of fluff, and I rather enjoyed seeing Amy and Rory's regular everyday lives for a while, which I felt really strengthened their character arc in hindsight - they do stay home a fair bit in the later seasons, but it really sinks in that they have a life outside of the Doctor. They go to pub quiz nights and go to weddings and baby showers and they have regular, human moments in the months and years between The Doctor visiting them for an adventure. Weak villain or not, I found the episode to be very engaging because I really like character building, and seeing it along those lines, I think it has one of the strongest ending scenes of Moffat's run - corny for sure, but just generally pretty rad at the same time.

NinjaBreakfast posted...

Doctor Who is literally a children's programme tbf

And yeah, while the show has gotten a bit darker and spoopier over time, it's a show that's meant to be enjoyed by the whole family. It's geared more towards kids with its goofy monsters, with characters and themes that can appeal more to an older crowd.

Doctor Who is a kid's show as much as Star Wars is a media franchise intended for people of all ages, being simplistic enough for kids to enjoy and just deep enough to give them something more substantial than random green aliens, with that sort of hook that stays with people all their lives. Fans take it super seriously, but it's important to step back and see it as the fun, not-entirely-serious romp that it is.
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Why is everything that doesn't star a straight white male sjw now?
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The23rdMagus posted...

SaithSayer posted...

Prestoff posted...

There was a game called Life is Strange that had some heavy sjw messages, but I really enjoyed it because it was a well made story based game. If something is good, even if i disagree with the message, it wont stop me from enjoying it.

I know some PC crowd type people who said the game made them cry. lol

Proud of it. That game made me feel things, especially towards its endgame.

I didn't play it but from what I heard it's not much of a GAME.

SaithSayer posted...

The23rdMagus posted...

SaithSayer posted...

Prestoff posted...

There was a game called Life is Strange that had some heavy sjw messages, but I really enjoyed it because it was a well made story based game. If something is good, even if i disagree with the message, it wont stop me from enjoying it.

I know some PC crowd type people who said the game made them cry. lol

Proud of it. That game made me feel things, especially towards its endgame.

I didn't play it but from what I heard it's not much of a GAME.

Cool. Go back and play it before you try discussing it.
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Episodic content sucks. Graphic adventure/puzzle game?

Sounds like if you mixed Myst with Willy Beamish. LOL