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BlingBling22947
10/14/18 4:03:33 PM
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You: *sleep*

*government robs you further to fund their military/intelligence assets and line the pockets of their corporate bedfellows*

You: *sleep*

*poor person even thinks about surviving in this hostile environment*

You: *racks shotgun* Real shit?!

**Twist: You are also poor.
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shokan_warrior
10/14/18 4:04:36 PM
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Imagine falling for marxian economics
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KiwiTerraRizing
10/14/18 4:05:33 PM
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shokan_warrior posted...
Imagine falling for marxian economics


Youre a tool of the bourgeoisie
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httpgrandmaster
10/14/18 4:06:06 PM
#4:


You wouldn't have that job if it wasn't for the employer. And the employer carries most of the risks of the business. This is especially true in small businesses of under 250 employees.

Without investment and capital, there is no economy and there is no opportunity.
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gmanthebest
10/14/18 4:07:37 PM
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httpgrandmaster posted...
You wouldn't have that job if it wasn't for the employer. And the employer carries most of the risks of the business. This is especially true in small businesses of under 250 employees.

Without investment and capital, there is no economy and there is no opportunity.

Shhhh, you'll ruin his point.
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httpgrandmaster
10/14/18 4:10:09 PM
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
Imagine falling for marxian economics


Youre a tool of the bourgeoisie


And you're one step away from being a domestic terrorist.

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josifrees
10/14/18 4:10:44 PM
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Employer doesnt carry any risk what the fuck are you on about
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REMercsChamp
10/14/18 4:11:07 PM
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Surplus value?
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KiwiTerraRizing
10/14/18 4:11:42 PM
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httpgrandmaster posted...
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
Imagine falling for marxian economics


Youre a tool of the bourgeoisie


And you're one step away from being a domestic terrorist.

https://imgur.com/PMsA1AD
https://imgur.com/XzfqXPj


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Serious Cat
10/14/18 4:22:51 PM
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josifrees posted...
Employer doesnt carry any risk what the fuck are you on about

If I were to run a business on my own freelance doing the same thing I'm doing now, I'd potentially be liable for any mistakes. As it stands, I can mostly just say oops and go on with my day as if nothing happened.
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Sativa_Rose
10/14/18 4:23:37 PM
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Hush commie.
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josifrees
10/14/18 4:39:25 PM
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Maybe if we lived in the laissez faire dystopia everyone wished for but as it is the government protects business owners through the ability to incorporate, bankruptcy protection, and tax benefits for losers
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httpgrandmaster
10/14/18 4:40:27 PM
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That's because we live in a civilized world where we try to have safety nets so that if your business or job collapse you don't end up on the streets.

Tax benefits, bankruptcy, etc, are all great things. Cry more.
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DK9292
10/14/18 4:42:01 PM
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httpgrandmaster posted...
You wouldn't have that job if it wasn't for the employer.

I lost my job because of my employer's incompetence. And his refusal to give a reference has made it nearly impossible to get another one.
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josifrees
10/14/18 4:42:30 PM
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Safety nets are communism
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shokan_warrior
10/14/18 4:42:38 PM
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Serious Cat posted...
josifrees posted...
Employer doesnt carry any risk what the fuck are you on about

If I were to run a business on my own freelance doing the same thing I'm doing now, I'd potentially be liable for any mistakes. As it stands, I can mostly just say oops and go on with my day as if nothing happened.

people like TC think employers are all Mr. Monopoly running around smoking cigars and sitting with piles of money or something
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shokan_warrior
10/14/18 4:45:23 PM
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josifrees posted...
Safety nets are communism

no they are not

if the nets are good they'll take credit but if they fail or are part of a failed system they'll claim its "not real communism/socialism"

they then turn around and say that the only real socialism is one ultra democratic system ruled by the workers and that is, as far as i know, not a thing that has been established in any contemporary country

iirc they tried it in russia but then they had to reinstate hierarchies and such

communists go further with no state at all and other more radical changes

with their true meaning in mind these things like "safety nets" "social programs" and "livable wages" are just tools used to keep the capitalist system alive for longer, according to the more hardcore socialists/communists
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DK9292
10/14/18 4:45:54 PM
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shokan_warrior posted...
Serious Cat posted...
josifrees posted...
Employer doesnt carry any risk what the fuck are you on about

If I were to run a business on my own freelance doing the same thing I'm doing now, I'd potentially be liable for any mistakes. As it stands, I can mostly just say oops and go on with my day as if nothing happened.

people like TC think employers are all Mr. Monopoly running around smoking cigars and sitting with piles of money or something

Mine did. And he didn't have the funds for it.

Hence why I lost my job and that company no longer exists.
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josifrees
10/14/18 4:47:01 PM
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shokan_warrior posted...
josifrees posted...
Safety nets are communism

no they are not

if the nets are good they'll take credit but if they fail or are part of a failed system they'll claim its "not real communism/socialism"

they then turn around and say that the only real socialism is one ultra democratic system ruled by the workers and that is, as far as i know, not a thing that has been established in any contemporary country

iirc they tried it in russia but then they had to reinstate hierarchies and such

communists go further with no state at all and other more radical changes

with their true meaning in mind these things like "safety nets" "social programs" and "livable wages" are just tools used to keep the capitalist system alive for longer, according to the more hardcore socialists/communists


Who the fuck are they and what does it have to do with me
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shokan_warrior
10/14/18 4:48:17 PM
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josifrees posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
josifrees posted...
Safety nets are communism

no they are not

if the nets are good they'll take credit but if they fail or are part of a failed system they'll claim its "not real communism/socialism"

they then turn around and say that the only real socialism is one ultra democratic system ruled by the workers and that is, as far as i know, not a thing that has been established in any contemporary country

iirc they tried it in russia but then they had to reinstate hierarchies and such

communists go further with no state at all and other more radical changes

with their true meaning in mind these things like "safety nets" "social programs" and "livable wages" are just tools used to keep the capitalist system alive for longer, according to the more hardcore socialists/communists


Who the fuck are they and what does it have to do with me

the real socialists/communists

i've visited their forums and have been to a real life university club of commies

they're all like that, its what they believe
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sktgamer_13dude
10/14/18 4:50:46 PM
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httpgrandmaster posted...
You wouldn't have that job if it wasn't for the employer. And the employer carries most of the risks of the business. This is especially true in small businesses of under 250 employees.

Without investment and capital, there is no economy and there is no opportunity.

And if the business doesnt invest in its workers, they wont have money to spend in said economy.
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