Current Events > Playing old game on pc is the absolute worst.

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So many damn hurdles to jump through. Chaos theory isnt worth all this shit. Fuck this.
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I disagree
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Chaos theory hasn't aged well tbh
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YukihoHagiwara posted...

I disagree

k
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Yea. I've always had trouble playing old PC games

Tied for best stealth series tbh
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I agree. All I want to do is play Lego Island but its like trying to singlehandedly recreate the Manhattan Project just to get it to run
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Can someone smart who understands computer shit explain to me why as computers get more advanced, they somehow lose the ability to play older, super non-demanding PC games?

Even KOTOR is super hit or miss what computers will run it nowadays without jumping through hoops.
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What do you have to do to get Chaos Theory working? I have it on Steam, and I remember pretty much starting it right up (been a while since I played it though). I can't recall having to do anything special to get it to run.
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There's two places where you can find info on getting the game working, and it's either PCgamingwiki or the Steam guides for that game.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=728093866
https://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Tom_Clancy%27s_Splinter_Cell:_Chaos_Theory
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@WafflehouseJK posted...

Can someone smart who understands computer shit explain to me why as computers get more advanced, they somehow lose the ability to play older, super non-demanding PC games?

Im gonna 5-year-old it for you, so.. Imagine that CPUs are designed like keyboards, you've got Qwerty and Dvorak right? Lets say Qwerty is older CPUs and Dvorak is newer CPUs ("Redesigned to be more efficient~") Well the problem is; the game was programed to "push button #22" which might be X on a Qwerty and B on a Dvorak. Instead of letters on a keyboard though; its C++ instructions and calculations, etc.
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DoomSwell posted...

WafflehouseJK posted...

Can someone smart who understands computer shit explain to me why as computers get more advanced, they somehow lose the ability to play older, super non-demanding PC games?

Im gonna 5-year-old it for you, so.. Imagine that CPUs are designed like keyboards, you've got Qwerty and Dvorak right? Lets say Qwerty is older CPUs and Dvorak is newer CPUs ("Redesigned to be more efficient~") Well the problem is; the game was programed to "push button #22" which might be X on a Qwerty and B on a Dvorak. Instead of letters on a keyboard though; its C++ instructions and calculations, etc.

Gotcha, that makes a little more sense, thanks.
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beats tracking down an OG xbox and a physical copy of the game xd
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Good thing I kept my old pc
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It's not even old games. even new ones stop working over time

I tried to play Dragon age inquisition the other day and couldn't boot it up. it worked fine on the same PC on launch

So I fiddled with myself and changed the settings and stuff and got it to boot up when it played like shit and I had to stop.

The master race has issues
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UnfairRepresent posted...

So I fiddled with myself

hawt
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Been trying to play this old game called Silver for my PC for years now and still can't get it to work.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/198645-silver
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M_Live posted...

WafflehouseJK posted...

Can someone smart who understands computer shit explain to me why as computers get more advanced, they somehow lose the ability to play older, super non-demanding PC games?

Even KOTOR is super hit or miss what computers will run it nowadays without jumping through hoops.

My computer was like, never able to run Jade Empire without massive amounts of lag, even on the lowest settings :/ I think Bioware just poorly optimizes their games tbh

shame because jade empire is good
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UnfairRepresent posted...

M_Live posted...

WafflehouseJK posted...

Can someone smart who understands computer shit explain to me why as computers get more advanced, they somehow lose the ability to play older, super non-demanding PC games?

Even KOTOR is super hit or miss what computers will run it nowadays without jumping through hoops.

My computer was like, never able to run Jade Empire without massive amounts of lag, even on the lowest settings :/ I think Bioware just poorly optimizes their games tbh

shame because jade empire is good

Gao the lesser
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Install linux in a VM
windows in general is sucky compared to it

DoomSwell posted...

@WafflehouseJK posted...

Can someone smart who understands computer shit explain to me why as computers get more advanced, they somehow lose the ability to play older, super non-demanding PC games?

Im gonna 5-year-old it for you, so.. Imagine that CPUs are designed like keyboards, you've got Qwerty and Dvorak right? Lets say Qwerty is older CPUs and Dvorak is newer CPUs ("Redesigned to be more efficient~") Well the problem is; the game was programed to "push button #22" which might be X on a Qwerty and B on a Dvorak. Instead of letters on a keyboard though; its C++ instructions and calculations, etc.

I just want to acknowledge that this was an excellent analogy
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WIth that in mind, is it possible to spoof an older version of windows OS to do this? Like run windows 95 or XP or something.
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You can run games in compatability mode, and that often can resolve the issue, yes. At least, I could in Win7. Wouldn't be shocked if Win10 didn't. Fuck Win10.
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pinky0926 posted...

WIth that in mind, is it possible to spoof an older version of windows OS to do this? Like run windows 95 or XP or something.

You can use a virtual machine to emulate an older OS. I believe Oracle's VirtualBox is the best one.

I dunno if you've seen them, but it's what Vinesauce Joel uses for his Windows Destruction streams.
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AsucaHayashi posted...

beats tracking down an OG xbox and a physical copy of the game xd

There are two places near me where I could easily do that.
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Also, if you'll allow me to be salty, where was all this help when I asked how to get KOTOR running??
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One of the happiest moments of my gaming life was when I finally got The Journeyman Project Turbo to work on my W7 machine.

Such a good game, and it felt so good to replay it like 15 years later.

Fortunately, the remake Pegasus Prime is on GoG, no hassle involved, if anyone has the good sense to try out this masterpiece. The Turbo version is still better (that may be nostalgia speaking lol) but I would not want to subject anyone to the hoops I had to jump through for it, even if they did manage to find a copy. Plus PP is a lot more polished and more challenging.
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dave_is_slick posted...

Also, if you'll allow me to be salty, where was all this help when I asked how to get KOTOR running??

You were either unlucky, or the right people weren't browsing at that time. :/
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dave_is_slick posted...

AsucaHayashi posted...

beats tracking down an OG xbox and a physical copy of the game xd

There are two places near me where I could easily do that.

you should message the addresses and price to TC then and tell him to go there instead.
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AsucaHayashi posted...

dave_is_slick posted...

AsucaHayashi posted...

beats tracking down an OG xbox and a physical copy of the game xd

There are two places near me where I could easily do that.

you should message the addresses and price to TC then and tell him to go there instead.

Doubt he'd be willing to come to Lancaster, CA.
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dave_is_slick posted...

AsucaHayashi posted...

dave_is_slick posted...

AsucaHayashi posted...

beats tracking down an OG xbox and a physical copy of the game xd

There are two places near me where I could easily do that.

you should message the addresses and price to TC then and tell him to go there instead.

Doubt he'd be willing to come to Lancaster, CA.

Not very far but id rather play it on pc
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SoundNetwork posted...

Chaos theory hasn't aged well tbh

Biggest issue is the literal MENU to grab someone.

Beyond that, it's fantastic. Just went through it recently.
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Where are all PC Master Race that screams about how PCs got a 30+ years of playable games when you need them?
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