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Tyranthraxus
10/17/18 5:11:14 PM
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https://www.apnews.com/873d1844783d41049dc6c91ee38f3645
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Annihilated
10/17/18 5:11:38 PM
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Ok
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frozenshock
10/17/18 5:12:12 PM
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That citizens united decision did way more damage than overturning roe would do
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Tyranthraxus
10/17/18 5:12:39 PM
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frozenshock posted...
That citizens united decision did way more damage than overturning roe would do

Yes but that doesn't make this okay
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Questionmarktarius
10/17/18 5:12:53 PM
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It's a meaningless law, so long as "it's Tuesday" remains an adequate justification.
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mario2000
10/17/18 5:13:07 PM
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progress!

woo!

we'll get our christian sharia law state in no time!
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Tyranthraxus
10/17/18 5:14:33 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
It's a meaningless law, so long as "it's Tuesday" remains an adequate justification.


That's not how Supreme Court opinions work. They can use this as an opportunity enact a constitutional ban on abortion.
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glitteringfairy
10/17/18 5:15:28 PM
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Libs are fucking SHOOK
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Anteaterking
10/17/18 5:16:04 PM
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What's the actual law? I don't understand the "based on race, gender, etc. " part.
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Questionmarktarius
10/17/18 5:16:04 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
It's a meaningless law, so long as "it's Tuesday" remains an adequate justification.


That's not how Supreme Court opinions work. They can use this as an opportunity enact a constitutional ban on abortion.

Turning this into a vector to overturn Roe would at least be admirable for the legal gymnastics involved.
Texas has been trying to do that since Roe itself.
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mario2000
10/17/18 5:16:40 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Libs are fucking SHOOK

having rights taken away should make everyone shook
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Questionmarktarius
10/17/18 5:18:37 PM
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mario2000 posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Libs are fucking SHOOK

having rights taken away should make everyone shook

What SCOTUS giveth, SCOTUS taketh away.

That's just what happens when we let five geriatric judges decide what's a "right" and what's not.
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lww99
10/17/18 5:19:23 PM
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mario2000 posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Libs are fucking SHOOK

having rights taken away should make everyone shook


Don't bother man. Anyone still riding that train at this point, is beyond saving.
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Space_Man
10/17/18 5:19:36 PM
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Let's abolish all laws and let the magic 8 ball decide
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Questionmarktarius
10/17/18 5:20:14 PM
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Space_Man posted...
Let's abolish all laws and let the magic 8 ball decide

I'm reasonably certain that already happened, sometime in the 1940s.
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DarkTransient
10/17/18 5:20:47 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
What's the actual law? I don't understand the "based on race, gender, etc. " part.


Basically, they can't choose to abort solely on the grounds that eg. the baby is a boy, or that the baby is (part) black, or that the baby is disabled. (Which would literally be unquestionably "you can't do that" type discrimination in any other situation, except maybe the last one in case where the disability necessitates different treatment.)

Which is in practice going to be damn hard to enforce, because they can just say it's a different reason. A total ban is the only way forward.
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King_Hellebuyck
10/17/18 5:21:26 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
It's a meaningless law, so long as "it's Tuesday" remains an adequate justification.


That's not how Supreme Court opinions work. They can use this as an opportunity enact a constitutional ban on abortion.

Thats not how it would work either. Roe being overturned would make it a state issue rather than a federal one.
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Zikten
10/17/18 5:22:16 PM
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mario2000 posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Libs are fucking SHOOK

having rights taken away should make everyone shook

What about the rights of the baby to live?
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ManBeast462
10/17/18 5:22:44 PM
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Make smart decisions from now on
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DifferentialEquation
10/17/18 5:23:10 PM
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mario2000 posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Libs are fucking SHOOK

having rights taken away should make everyone shook


Unless it's the right to own firearms. Then you're all for taking that right away.
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King_Hellebuyck
10/17/18 5:23:13 PM
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Zikten posted...
mario2000 posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Libs are fucking SHOOK

having rights taken away should make everyone shook

What about the rights of the baby to live?

No one has a right to violate a persons bodily autonomy
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mario2000
10/17/18 5:24:34 PM
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Zikten posted...
mario2000 posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Libs are fucking SHOOK

having rights taken away should make everyone shook

What about the rights of the baby to live?

So does that mean you would support measures to provide them with government assistance for food, housing, education, etc.?
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Zikten
10/17/18 5:24:46 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
Zikten posted...
mario2000 posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Libs are fucking SHOOK

having rights taken away should make everyone shook

What about the rights of the baby to live?

No one has a right to violate a persons bodily autonomy

Abortion violates the bodily autonomy of the child
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Zikten
10/17/18 5:24:57 PM
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mario2000 posted...
Zikten posted...
mario2000 posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Libs are fucking SHOOK

having rights taken away should make everyone shook

What about the rights of the baby to live?

So does that mean you would support measures to provide them with government assistance for food, housing, education, etc.?

Yes actually
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Unbreakable
10/17/18 5:25:11 PM
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Zikten posted...
mario2000 posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Libs are fucking SHOOK

having rights taken away should make everyone shook

What about the rights of the baby to live?

It's not a baby, it's pre-life
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Zikten
10/17/18 5:25:50 PM
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Unbreakable posted...
Zikten posted...
mario2000 posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Libs are fucking SHOOK

having rights taken away should make everyone shook

What about the rights of the baby to live?

It's not a baby, it's pre-life

Which will grow into a human child. To me that makes it human already
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King_Hellebuyck
10/17/18 5:26:28 PM
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Zikten posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Zikten posted...
mario2000 posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Libs are fucking SHOOK

having rights taken away should make everyone shook

What about the rights of the baby to live?

No one has a right to violate a persons bodily autonomy

Abortion violates the bodily autonomy of the child

In the same way that killing in self defense violates the autonomy of the person attacking.
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mario2000
10/17/18 5:26:50 PM
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Zikten posted...
Unbreakable posted...
Zikten posted...
mario2000 posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Libs are fucking SHOOK

having rights taken away should make everyone shook

What about the rights of the baby to live?

It's not a baby, it's pre-life

Which will grow into a human child. To me that makes it human already

Sorry but facts don't care about your feelings.
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DarkTransient
10/17/18 5:27:07 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
Zikten posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Zikten posted...
mario2000 posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Libs are fucking SHOOK

having rights taken away should make everyone shook

What about the rights of the baby to live?

No one has a right to violate a persons bodily autonomy

Abortion violates the bodily autonomy of the child

In the same way that killing in self defense violates the autonomy of the person attacking.


Only if continuing the pregnancy would kill or severely disable the mother. Otherwise, you're not being attacked, and self-defence is not an accurate comparison.
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Middle hope
10/17/18 5:27:24 PM
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Womp squared
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Zikten
10/17/18 5:27:30 PM
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mario2000 posted...
Zikten posted...
Unbreakable posted...
Zikten posted...
mario2000 posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Libs are fucking SHOOK

having rights taken away should make everyone shook

What about the rights of the baby to live?

It's not a baby, it's pre-life

Which will grow into a human child. To me that makes it human already

Sorry but facts don't care about your feelings.

It's a scientific fact that a fetus is human
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Questionmarktarius
10/17/18 5:27:40 PM
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Zikten posted...
Yes actually

Well... That's an interesting mix of politics.
You would have been right at home in Ceausescu's Romania.
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King_Hellebuyck
10/17/18 5:27:43 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Zikten posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Zikten posted...
mario2000 posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Libs are fucking SHOOK

having rights taken away should make everyone shook

What about the rights of the baby to live?

No one has a right to violate a persons bodily autonomy

Abortion violates the bodily autonomy of the child

In the same way that killing in self defense violates the autonomy of the person attacking.


Only if continuing the pregnancy would kill or severely disable the mother. Otherwise, you're not being attacked, and self-defence is not an accurate comparison.

Thats a fundamental misunderstanding of bodily autonomy
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Questionmarktarius
10/17/18 5:28:55 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
Thats a fundamental misunderstanding of bodily autonomy

Seems more like confusing the concept with non-aggression principle.
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DarkTransient
10/17/18 5:31:00 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
Thats a fundamental misunderstanding of bodily autonomy


Bodily autonomy doesn't extend to the right to kill others without a good reason. You can't stab someone and claim "bodily autonomy, if I wanna use my body to stab someone I can".
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mario2000
10/17/18 5:31:39 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Thats a fundamental misunderstanding of bodily autonomy


Bodily autonomy doesn't extend to the right to kill others without a good reason. You can't stab someone and claim "bodily autonomy, if I wanna use my body to stab someone I can".

good thing that has literally nothing to do with the subject at hand
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King_Hellebuyck
10/17/18 5:32:31 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Thats a fundamental misunderstanding of bodily autonomy


Bodily autonomy doesn't extend to the right to kill others without a good reason. You can't stab someone and claim "bodily autonomy, if I wanna use my body to stab someone I can".

Youre right. But that has nothing to do with abortion so I dont know why youre bringing it up.
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DarkTransient
10/17/18 5:36:18 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
DarkTransient posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Thats a fundamental misunderstanding of bodily autonomy


Bodily autonomy doesn't extend to the right to kill others without a good reason. You can't stab someone and claim "bodily autonomy, if I wanna use my body to stab someone I can".

Youre right. But that has nothing to do with abortion so I dont know why youre bringing it up.


"You can't kill someone and claim you have that right because bodily autonomy" is very applicable to abortion.
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soylentgreen
10/17/18 5:36:57 PM
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ctrl-f "roe" not found

ctrl-"left" perfect match
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mario2000
10/17/18 5:37:16 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
DarkTransient posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Thats a fundamental misunderstanding of bodily autonomy


Bodily autonomy doesn't extend to the right to kill others without a good reason. You can't stab someone and claim "bodily autonomy, if I wanna use my body to stab someone I can".

Youre right. But that has nothing to do with abortion so I dont know why youre bringing it up.


"You can't kill someone and claim you have that right because bodily autonomy" is very applicable to abortion.

it's not
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King_Hellebuyck
10/17/18 5:38:59 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
DarkTransient posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Thats a fundamental misunderstanding of bodily autonomy


Bodily autonomy doesn't extend to the right to kill others without a good reason. You can't stab someone and claim "bodily autonomy, if I wanna use my body to stab someone I can".

Youre right. But that has nothing to do with abortion so I dont know why youre bringing it up.


"You can't kill someone and claim you have that right because bodily autonomy" is very applicable to abortion.

Do you believe that your body should be used to keep other people alive against your will?
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soylentgreen
10/17/18 5:40:52 PM
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If liberals want to get anywhere on this abortion issue they need to stop dehumanizing the unborn life.

Its life, stage 1 of a human BUT its in woman. The woman should have the right to do whatever she wants with her body.
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P4wn4g3
10/17/18 5:41:40 PM
#43:


Zikten posted...
Unbreakable posted...
Zikten posted...
mario2000 posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Libs are fucking SHOOK

having rights taken away should make everyone shook

What about the rights of the baby to live?

It's not a baby, it's pre-life

Which will grow into a human child. To me that makes it human already

You should think of it like the cut on your chin. It has the potential to be a child some day, but at this point it's just a clump of cells attached to your body.
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ScazarMeltex
10/17/18 5:46:03 PM
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A fetus is as much a human being as a tadpole is a frog.
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lightwarrior78
10/17/18 5:47:20 PM
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soylentgreen posted...
If liberals want to get anywhere on this abortion issue they need to stop dehumanizing the unborn life.

Its life, stage 1 of a human BUT its in woman. The woman should have the right to do whatever she wants with her body.


At least they have to start acting less like they think safe sex is a punishment of some kind. Seriously concerned about your "body autonomy", maybe don't put it at risk foolishly.
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SageHarpuiaHX
10/17/18 5:48:03 PM
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Very.
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Anteaterking
10/17/18 5:50:33 PM
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soylentgreen posted...
If liberals want to get anywhere on this abortion issue they need to stop dehumanizing the unborn life.

Its life, stage 1 of a human BUT its in woman. The woman should have the right to do whatever she wants with her body.


"The way for pro-choice people to break through to pro-lifers is to say that unborn fetuses are humans, but that it's okay to kill them"
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SageHarpuiaHX
10/17/18 5:51:40 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
soylentgreen posted...
If liberals want to get anywhere on this abortion issue they need to stop dehumanizing the unborn life.

Its life, stage 1 of a human BUT its in woman. The woman should have the right to do whatever she wants with her body.


"The way for pro-choice people to break through to pro-lifers is to say that unborn fetuses are humans, but that it's okay to kill them"

Ikr? Leftists have no business being for abortion in the first place
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DarkTransient
10/17/18 5:51:49 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
A fetus is as much a human being as a tadpole is a frog.


So, exactly as alive and exactly the same species, just younger?
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