Poll of the Day > 46 y/o Black Man gets 8 YEARS in PRISON for MARIJUANA that he LEGALLY Bought!!!

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46 y/o Patrick Beadle, a musician from Oregon was sentenced to 8 YEARS in PRISON in Mississippi for possession of MARIJUANA that he LEGALLY bought is his state!!

Activists are outraged over the harsh sentence and state it's based on his race as well considering he was sentenced WITHOUT PAROLE as well for drug trafficking!!

He originally faced 40 years in the slammer after he had almost 3 pounds of marijuana in his car on March 7, 2017 when he was driving through Madison County.

A Jury convicted him in July and prosecutors even admitted there was no evidence he was "trafficking drugs" as he did not possess a large sum of money, drug paraphernalia other than the marijuana

He purchased the weed in Oregon where recreational use of the drug was approved in 2014 and medical marijuana was legalized in 1998. He had a medical marijuana card to treat chronic pain he suffers in both of his knees suffered from college basketball

Taking weed across state lines is illegal and in Mississippi as recreational and medical marijuana is illegal as well

He was stopped by police for crossing a fog line in the road as he was on a road trip to pay homage to blues singer B.B King in his home state but he believes he was a victim of racial profiling because of his dreadlocks and licese plate from another state.

Once stopped, police found his marijuana stash with an an ounce of medical marijuana costing 50-100 each and spent 2300 to 4600 on the load of weed..

Tommy Beadle, his mother pleaded with the judge to not send her son to prison but they ignored her cries as he said he will not reduce his charge to simple possession since he was already convicted for drug traffickign

His attorney, Cynthia Stewart says his sentence will be appealed given the US is quickly changing marijuana laws and in 5 years may not even be a crime as the American Civil Liberties Union says Beadle was stopped and given a long prison sentence based on his skin colour

The ACLU has filed a lawsuit against the Mississippi Police Department for racial bias following the case claiming black people are targeted aggressively by police

Do you agree with this sentence?

Patrick -

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/10/19/15/5201994-6294703-Musician_Patrick_Beadle_46_of_Oregon_was_sentenced_to_eight_year-m-10_1539957607689.jpg

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ACLU -

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Any prison sentence that revolves around possession of marijuana is ridiculous. That being said, if I'm driving around with 3 pounds of weed in the car, I'm going to brush up on the laws of the states that I'm driving through.
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yeah, just because it's legal in one state doesn't make it legal in another state.

fair, next.
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It's certainly a harsh sentence for a minor offence. Still buying something legally in one place doesn't make it legal in another. Nothing todo with race.
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:D

that's only 1300 grams

some of us could probably smoke that in a year

if it was legal and he sold it they could scrap over 1000 bucks off him

The prohibition of marijuana makes as much sense as a prohibition on dandelions.

That being said...trying to bring 3 pounds of weed from a legal state to an illegal state 1500 miles away wasn't the best idea.

At my heaviest use, it took me over a month to burn through an ounce. The last third of that ounce...lost its charm and freshness taking precautions.

I'm having difficulty imagining what this dude was going to do with 3 pounds if he wasn't planning on selling it since weed doesn't exactly age well past a certain point. He would have had 2 pounds of what looked like oregano after a month and a half at best.

Again, I think the weed prohibition is absurd, but I'm pretty sure they have this guy on a technicality. A technicality that would never exist were it not for the ridiculous prohibition in the first place.
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I doubt you can buy 3 pounds legally if you're not a licensed dealer in the state. That's distribution amounts in any state.

Still that's a huge sentence and it won't stick, he'll appeal and get a deal for much lower. He'll probably be out on probation in 18 months.

helIy posted...

yeah, just because it's legal in one state doesn't make it legal in another state.

fair, next.

Wait, do you do this often. This seems familiar
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Three pounds does sound like he had intent to sell, thats a ridiculous amount.

i could see it as intent to deliver to someone else to sell it, tbh
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That's not fair, that's fascism.

The fact that it could have been avoided doesn't mean a lot if it shouldn't happen.

He broke the law and should be punished.
8 years in prison is however overkill.
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Don't take drugs to a state where they're illegal. It doesn't matter if you agree with the law, you still have to abide by it. It's not fucking brain surgery. 8 years seems overboard, but he should've known better.
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WhiskeyDisk posted...

I'm having difficulty imagining what this dude was going to do with 3 pounds if he wasn't planning on selling it since weed doesn't exactly age well past a certain point. He would have had 2 pounds of what looked like oregano after a month and a half at best.

Not really, there are some types of jars that hold onto that material for a lot longer than two months, try two years if it's been dried correctly.

Throw the book at him. Playing the race card.
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3 pounds? He was on some illegal activities in the making.
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helIy posted...

i could see it as intent to deliver to someone else to sell it, tbh

So? Are you and these judges so out of touch they think weed will harm you? Common sense, people.
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Whoever that judge is needs to be fired, for perversion of justice or something. Better yet, trial the dumb fuck and sentence them to 8 years in prison.

How do you think that poor black man feels right now?
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So he has a prior trafficking conviction and he was driving around with three pounds of weed across state lines... I think it has a lot more to do with him breaking the law than being black.

This should put this topic to rest:
https://www.oregon.gov/olcc/marijuana/Pages/FAQs-Personal-Use.aspx

He's way above the legal limit for his own state even

minervo posted...

helIy posted...

i could see it as intent to deliver to someone else to sell it, tbh

So? Are you and these judges so out of touch they think weed will harm you? Common sense, people.

minervo posted...

Whoever that judge is needs to be fired, for perversion of justice or something. Better yet, trial the dumb fuck and sentence them to 8 years in prison.

How do you think that poor black man feels right now?

Fired and jailed for what exactly?

WhiskeyDisk posted...

The prohibition of marijuana makes as much sense as a prohibition on dandelions.

Not entirely, dandelions actually have a few medical issues... including hyperkalemia
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With US laws, makes sense that this happened.

Guy moved it illegally, and with everything going in, sounds like he was planning on selling it in a place it was illegal.
Even in countries where weed is fully legal on the federal level, it is illegal to sell it on the street. And obviously that is what he was doing.
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He smuggled drugs across a border, why shouldn't he be charged with the crime he committed?
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IronicFool posted...

minervo posted...

helIy posted...

i could see it as intent to deliver to someone else to sell it, tbh

So? Are you and these judges so out of touch they think weed will harm you? Common sense, people.

minervo posted...

Whoever that judge is needs to be fired, for perversion of justice or something. Better yet, trial the dumb fuck and sentence them to 8 years in prison.

How do you think that poor black man feels right now?

Fired and jailed for what exactly?

Tbh i didn't even read the article beyond the headline.
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Ridiculous. The answer is move to a country with freedom, move to Canada.

Edit:

3 lbs? Yeah, he was looking to sell, I retract my statement.
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minervo posted...

Tbh i didn't even read the article beyond the headline.

Ah okay, yeah if I just read the headline then your position would be very agreeable.

I disagree with this law (marijuana laws in general) and think it's unjust and should be repealed. But if you want to fight unjust laws using civil disobedience, the way to emphasize that is by accepting the consequences and using it to illustrate that the punishment doesn't fit the crime, or that the crime itself is ridiculous and hypocritical. Quite frankly, using this case to make an issue about race, while that may (read: is) a valid argument, does absolutely nothing to denounce the crime itself, and rather points out how our justice system, on average, penalizes black men at higher rates for the same crimes committed by other demos. This infuriates me because you could very well do both. Too many people think they should break unjust laws and be free of consequences. Use the consequences and accept them to make your point. It strengthens your position, anything else weakens it.

RoboXgp89 posted...

WhiskeyDisk posted...

I'm having difficulty imagining what this dude was going to do with 3 pounds if he wasn't planning on selling it since weed doesn't exactly age well past a certain point. He would have had 2 pounds of what looked like oregano after a month and a half at best.

Not really, there are some types of jars that hold onto that material for a lot longer than two months, try two years if it's been dried correctly.

I lost a bag once and found it nearly a year later. Still got the job done, didn't taste the best but Ive had worse.

But I was always in the habit of squeezing as much air out of the bags as possible too.
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> 46 y/o Patrick Beadle, a musician from Oregon was sentenced to 8 YEARS in PRISON in Mississippi for possession of MARIJUANA that he LEGALLY bought is his state!!

Then he brought it across state lines and as its not only still Federally illegal, but also illegal in Mississippi, I don't know why anyone is surprised.

EightySeven posted...

> 46 y/o Patrick Beadle, a musician from Oregon was sentenced to 8 YEARS in PRISON in Mississippi for possession of MARIJUANA that he LEGALLY bought is his state!!

Then he brought it across state lines and as its not only still Federally illegal, but also illegal in Mississippi, I don't know why anyone is surprised.

If it was a more reasonable amount of cannabis? Then what I posted before my edit is applicable. The States absolutely needs to legalise it on a federal level.
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Enclave posted...

The States absolutely needs to legalise it on a federal level.

I agree, but until that happens doing what this guy did is monumentally stupid.

EightySeven posted...

Enclave posted...

The States absolutely needs to legalise it on a federal level.

I agree, but until that happens doing what this guy did is monumentally stupid.

Oh, absolutely agree. Thus why I suggested going to Canada :P
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Enclave posted...

EightySeven posted...

Enclave posted...

The States absolutely needs to legalise it on a federal level.

I agree, but until that happens doing what this guy did is monumentally stupid.

Oh, absolutely agree. Thus why I suggested going to Canada :P

I like weed well enough but I dont think its worth moving for.

Especially since with me it would almost definitely involve having to deal with different laws I don't agree with.
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Enclave posted...

EightySeven posted...

Enclave posted...

The States absolutely needs to legalise it on a federal level.

I agree, but until that happens doing what this guy did is monumentally stupid.

Oh, absolutely agree. Thus why I suggested going to Canada :P

Don't do that
I don't think border agents are a state thing
Some of them might have a real hard one up their @#@

RoboXgp89 posted...

Enclave posted...

EightySeven posted...

Enclave posted...

The States absolutely needs to legalise it on a federal level.

I agree, but until that happens doing what this guy did is monumentally stupid.

Oh, absolutely agree. Thus why I suggested going to Canada :P

Don't do that
I don't think border agents are a state thing
Some of them might have a real hard one up their @#@

Yeah, I'd definitely not suggest taking cannabis over the border, that's a fantastic way to get thrown in prison.
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I feel like I need to post this again because nothing he did was legal:
https://www.oregon.gov/olcc/marijuana/Pages/FAQs-Personal-Use.aspx

The legal limit someone can own at one time in orgeon is less then a pound.

This is a case of cruel and unusual punishment for sure, and the sentence should be overturned. Still, when something is illegal, ESPECIALLY when its about to change, you should just sit tight and wait: rules are the basis of a modern society.

As people mentioned already, nothing he did was legal, but obviously 8 years is ridiculous. Take the weed away, give him a slap on the wrist and teach him to be a little more patient.That should be the extent of it.

There's a lot of stuff that's legal but has rules around purchase/possession/usage, not just drugs/medicines. Weed being legalized doesn't make it MORE legal than all of those things.

ShadosAtPhoenix posted...

As people mentioned already, nothing he did was legal, but obviously 8 years is ridiculous. Take the weed away, give him a slap on the wrist and teach him to be a little more patient.That should be the extent of it.

Ah, I agree with the sentiment, but even alcohol has similar laws still. If you buy enough, you will need a sort of permit to transport that alcohol (though my understanding is that a liquor store can write it for you). The point is that you can be transporting enough of even legal substances to be regulated at least.

Really, even if weed is legal, trying to move three pounds of it across state lines may still be illegal. I'm not sure how liquor works, but I would not be surprised if it had something similar in place. Welcome to state laws.

IronicFool posted...

ShadosAtPhoenix posted...

As people mentioned already, nothing he did was legal, but obviously 8 years is ridiculous. Take the weed away, give him a slap on the wrist and teach him to be a little more patient.That should be the extent of it.

Ah, I agree with the sentiment, but even alcohol has similar laws still. If you buy enough, you will need a sort of permit to transport that alcohol (though my understanding is that a liquor store can write it for you). The point is that you can be transporting enough of even legal substances to be regulated at least.

Really, even if weed is legal, trying to move three pounds of it across state lines may still be illegal. I'm not sure how liquor works, but I would not be surprised if it had something similar in place. Welcome to state laws.

You're basically saying exactly what I said :) The guy deserves a fine or something, but not 8 years in prison. I can bring an 18 wheeler worth full of alcohol and I'll definitely get in trouble, but they won't toss me in jail for 8 years, that's for sure.

ShadosAtPhoenix posted...

IronicFool posted...

ShadosAtPhoenix posted...

As people mentioned already, nothing he did was legal, but obviously 8 years is ridiculous. Take the weed away, give him a slap on the wrist and teach him to be a little more patient.That should be the extent of it.

Ah, I agree with the sentiment, but even alcohol has similar laws still. If you buy enough, you will need a sort of permit to transport that alcohol (though my understanding is that a liquor store can write it for you). The point is that you can be transporting enough of even legal substances to be regulated at least.

Really, even if weed is legal, trying to move three pounds of it across state lines may still be illegal. I'm not sure how liquor works, but I would not be surprised if it had something similar in place. Welcome to state laws.

You're basically saying exactly what I said :) The guy deserves a fine or something, but not 8 years in prison. I can bring an 18 wheeler worth full of alcohol and I'll definitely get in trouble, but they won't toss me in jail for 8 years, that's for sure.

Well, yes and no. He broke the law, but it's a stupid law, which I don't think you disagree with. That said, if you brought an 18 wheeler across state line full of alcohol...depending on the state you'd potentially get it even worse than him.

At least he didn't get the maximum sentence of 30 years for possession of that amount.
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Zangulus posted...

The news says it all the time. You cant even taken marijuana from one legal state to the other. If a state trooper pulls you over it violates federal statues.

This guy was fucking stupid to have that much (or any at all) while driving through a known state to be harsh on stuff like that.

But he still doesnt deserve 8 years. Fucking ridiculous.

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