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Spam_n_eggs 10/25/18 8:56:53 AM #456:	3deep5u posted... Whatever dumb shit he manages to do to hurt LGBT folk will be undone in 2 years hopefully I want to think so too, but how? His boy Kavanaughty will rule or uphold all sorts of shit <cite>Spam_n_eggs posted [p:911132012] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>3deep5u posted...</cite> <quote>Whatever dumb shit he manages to do to hurt LGBT folk will be undone in 2 years hopefully</quote> I want to think so too, but how? His boy Kavanaughty will rule or uphold all sorts of shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BJ-blazkowics 10/25/18 9:41:23 AM #457:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... BJ-blazkowics posted... RainblowDash posted... thelovefist posted... Who posted #421? Do you have him ignore? If so why? Fisty is obsessed with ROD Fisty thinks I am ROD (so he harasses me) so I added Fisty to ignore Fisty must do everything I do (it's part of his obsession) Therefore, fisty had to add somebody to ignore so he could "me too" me. It's sad, really If I was a mind reader and I read lovefist's mind, I would get "rOd RoD rOd RoD rOd RoD...." on infinite loop. fisty's favorite singer? ROD Stewart fisty's favorite athlete? Dennis RODman fisty's favorite government worker? ROD Rosenstein who does fisty respect? RODNEY Dangerfield --- Long live The Fam! They hate us 'cuz they ain't us! <cite>BJ-blazkowics posted [p:911133605] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BJ-blazkowics posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RainblowDash posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thelovefist posted...</cite> <quote>Who posted #421?</quote> Do you have him ignore? If so why?</quote> Fisty is obsessed with ROD Fisty thinks I am ROD (so he harasses me) so I added Fisty to ignore Fisty must do everything I do (it's part of his obsession) Therefore, fisty had to add somebody to ignore so he could "me too" me. It's sad, really</quote> If I was a mind reader and I read lovefist's mind, I would get "rOd RoD rOd RoD rOd RoD...." on infinite loop.</quote> fisty's favorite singer? ROD Stewart fisty's favorite athlete? Dennis RODman fisty's favorite government worker? ROD Rosenstein who does fisty respect? RODNEY Dangerfield</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 10/25/18 12:37:46 PM #458:	Spam_n_eggs posted... Talking about transgenders, is there an official list of legit labels? I mean m-t-f, f-t-m , etc are legit. But there are some like two souls, and gender fluid that dont sound so legit to me Gender fluid is legit. It basically means you fall somewhere in the middle of the spectrum, and you may lean more towards one side or the other. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:911142215] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>Spam_n_eggs posted...</cite> <quote>Talking about transgenders, is there an official list of legit labels? I mean m-t-f, f-t-m , etc are legit. But there are some like two souls, and gender fluid that dont sound so legit to me</quote> Gender fluid is legit. It basically means you fall somewhere in the middle of the spectrum, and you may lean more towards one side or the other.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/25/18 1:25:25 PM #459:	OctilIery posted... Gender fluid is legit --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:911144911] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>Gender fluid is legit</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BJ-blazkowics 10/25/18 1:30:04 PM #460:	s0nicfan posted... OctilIery posted... Gender fluid is legit Why don't you add to the topic rather than trolling with the "lololo trans is lulz" stuff? --- Long live The Fam! They hate us 'cuz they ain't us! <cite>BJ-blazkowics posted [p:911145148] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>Gender fluid is legit</quote> </quote> Why don't you add to the topic rather than trolling with the "lololo trans is lulz" stuff?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/25/18 1:40:27 PM #461:	BJ-blazkowics posted... Why don't you add to the topic rather than trolling with the "lololo trans is lulz" stuff? I didn't say "lololo trans is lulz". I said "lololo gender fluidity is lulz." That's a significant difference. If gender fluidity is valid, then it isn't tied to a biological marker, so surgery for trans people isn't a medical necessity. If it IS a medical necessity, then it is tied to a biological marker as evidence for that necessity, and therefore it can't be something that changes day-to-day. Even members of the trans community turn away from gender fluidity, because it's mutually exclusive with their stated desire to get gender reassignment surgery covered as a medical need. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:911145672] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>BJ-blazkowics posted...</cite> <quote>Why don't you add to the topic rather than trolling with the "lololo trans is lulz" stuff?</quote> I didn't say "lololo trans is lulz". I said "lololo gender fluidity is lulz." That's a significant difference. If gender fluidity is valid, then it isn't tied to a biological marker, so surgery for trans people isn't a medical necessity. If it IS a medical necessity, then it is tied to a biological marker as evidence for that necessity, and therefore it can't be something that changes day-to-day. Even members of the trans community turn away from gender fluidity, because it's mutually exclusive with their stated desire to get gender reassignment surgery covered as a medical need.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 10/25/18 1:43:39 PM #462:	Fucking wild that Sayoria shilled so hard for this dude during the election. That's an awful lot of crow to swallow. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:911145831] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote>Fucking wild that Sayoria shilled so hard for this dude during the election. That's an awful lot of crow to swallow.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BJ-blazkowics 10/25/18 2:08:18 PM #463:	s0nicfan posted... BJ-blazkowics posted... Why don't you add to the topic rather than trolling with the "lololo trans is lulz" stuff? I didn't say "lololo trans is lulz". I said "lololo gender fluidity is lulz." That's a significant difference. If gender fluidity is valid, then it isn't tied to a biological marker, so surgery for trans people isn't a medical necessity. If it IS a medical necessity, then it is tied to a biological marker as evidence for that necessity, and therefore it can't be something that changes day-to-day. Even members of the trans community turn away from gender fluidity, because it's mutually exclusive with their stated desire to get gender reassignment surgery covered as a medical need. got it. So the 48 gender crap stuff is dumb, but trans (mtf, ftm) is legit, correct? --- Long live The Fam! They hate us 'cuz they ain't us! <cite>BJ-blazkowics posted [p:911147219] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BJ-blazkowics posted...</cite> <quote>Why don't you add to the topic rather than trolling with the "lololo trans is lulz" stuff?</quote> I didn't say "lololo trans is lulz". I said "lololo gender fluidity is lulz." That's a significant difference. If gender fluidity is valid, then it isn't tied to a biological marker, so surgery for trans people isn't a medical necessity. If it IS a medical necessity, then it is tied to a biological marker as evidence for that necessity, and therefore it can't be something that changes day-to-day. Even members of the trans community turn away from gender fluidity, because it's mutually exclusive with their stated desire to get gender reassignment surgery covered as a medical need.</quote> got it. So the 48 gender crap stuff is dumb, but trans (mtf, ftm) is legit, correct?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BJ-blazkowics 10/25/18 2:08:49 PM #464:	A_Good_Boy posted... Fucking wild that Sayoria shilled so hard for this dude during the election. That's an awful lot of crow to swallow. that is basically the old "first the came for the ...." adage coming back to life. --- Long live The Fam! They hate us 'cuz they ain't us! <cite>BJ-blazkowics posted [p:911147259] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote>Fucking wild that Sayoria shilled so hard for this dude during the election. That's an awful lot of crow to swallow.</quote> that is basically the old "first the came for the ...." adage coming back to life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/25/18 2:11:41 PM #465:	BJ-blazkowics posted... s0nicfan posted... BJ-blazkowics posted... Why don't you add to the topic rather than trolling with the "lololo trans is lulz" stuff? I didn't say "lololo trans is lulz". I said "lololo gender fluidity is lulz." That's a significant difference. If gender fluidity is valid, then it isn't tied to a biological marker, so surgery for trans people isn't a medical necessity. If it IS a medical necessity, then it is tied to a biological marker as evidence for that necessity, and therefore it can't be something that changes day-to-day. Even members of the trans community turn away from gender fluidity, because it's mutually exclusive with their stated desire to get gender reassignment surgery covered as a medical need. got it. So the 48 gender crap stuff is dumb, but trans (mtf, ftm) is legit, correct? Correct, although I think we still need to advance the science better of accurately determining whether someone has the biological markers of a "real" trans person as opposed to relying on therapy and opinion to make the call, given that it's a life-altering process. We also need better therapy solutions for both pre and post transition individuals because the suicide rate is still way, WAY too high and you can't write that off as "people are mean" because it's still double that of the gay community at the height of the AIDS epidemic. The illusion that "if I change my appearance, the source of all my unhappiness will go away" needs to be broken prior to transition so people don't regret their decisions, much in the way that obese people going through gastric bypass remain depressed once they realize that losing weight doesn't suddenly make them popular or happy. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:911147424] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>BJ-blazkowics posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BJ-blazkowics posted...</cite> <quote>Why don't you add to the topic rather than trolling with the "lololo trans is lulz" stuff?</quote> I didn't say "lololo trans is lulz". I said "lololo gender fluidity is lulz." That's a significant difference. If gender fluidity is valid, then it isn't tied to a biological marker, so surgery for trans people isn't a medical necessity. If it IS a medical necessity, then it is tied to a biological marker as evidence for that necessity, and therefore it can't be something that changes day-to-day. Even members of the trans community turn away from gender fluidity, because it's mutually exclusive with their stated desire to get gender reassignment surgery covered as a medical need.</quote> got it. So the 48 gender crap stuff is dumb, but trans (mtf, ftm) is legit, correct?</quote> Correct, although I think we still need to advance the science better of accurately determining whether someone has the biological markers of a "real" trans person as opposed to relying on therapy and opinion to make the call, given that it's a life-altering process. We also need better therapy solutions for both pre and post transition individuals because the suicide rate is still way, WAY too high and you can't write that off as "people are mean" because it's still double that of the gay community at the height of the AIDS epidemic. The illusion that "if I change my appearance, the source of all my unhappiness will go away" needs to be broken prior to transition so people don't regret their decisions, much in the way that obese people going through gastric bypass remain depressed once they realize that losing weight doesn't suddenly make them popular or happy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BJ-blazkowics 10/25/18 2:17:19 PM #466:	s0nicfan posted... BJ-blazkowics posted... s0nicfan posted... BJ-blazkowics posted... Why don't you add to the topic rather than trolling with the "lololo trans is lulz" stuff? I didn't say "lololo trans is lulz". I said "lololo gender fluidity is lulz." That's a significant difference. If gender fluidity is valid, then it isn't tied to a biological marker, so surgery for trans people isn't a medical necessity. If it IS a medical necessity, then it is tied to a biological marker as evidence for that necessity, and therefore it can't be something that changes day-to-day. Even members of the trans community turn away from gender fluidity, because it's mutually exclusive with their stated desire to get gender reassignment surgery covered as a medical need. got it. So the 48 gender crap stuff is dumb, but trans (mtf, ftm) is legit, correct? Correct, although I think we still need to advance the science better of accurately determining whether someone has the biological markers of a "real" trans person as opposed to relying on therapy and opinion to make the call, given that it's a life-altering process. We also need better therapy solutions for both pre and post transition individuals because the suicide rate is still way, WAY too high and you can't write that off as "people are mean" because it's still double that of the gay community at the height of the AIDS epidemic. The illusion that "if I change my appearance, the source of all my unhappiness will go away" needs to be broken prior to transition so people don't regret their decisions, much in the way that obese people going through gastric bypass remain depressed once they realize that losing weight doesn't suddenly make them popular or happy. This is a refreshing take, and it makes sense to me --- Long live The Fam! They hate us 'cuz they ain't us! <cite>BJ-blazkowics posted [p:911147762] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BJ-blazkowics posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BJ-blazkowics posted...</cite> <quote>Why don't you add to the topic rather than trolling with the "lololo trans is lulz" stuff?</quote> I didn't say "lololo trans is lulz". I said "lololo gender fluidity is lulz." That's a significant difference. If gender fluidity is valid, then it isn't tied to a biological marker, so surgery for trans people isn't a medical necessity. If it IS a medical necessity, then it is tied to a biological marker as evidence for that necessity, and therefore it can't be something that changes day-to-day. Even members of the trans community turn away from gender fluidity, because it's mutually exclusive with their stated desire to get gender reassignment surgery covered as a medical need.</quote> got it. So the 48 gender crap stuff is dumb, but trans (mtf, ftm) is legit, correct?</quote> Correct, although I think we still need to advance the science better of accurately determining whether someone has the biological markers of a "real" trans person as opposed to relying on therapy and opinion to make the call, given that it's a life-altering process. We also need better therapy solutions for both pre and post transition individuals because the suicide rate is still way, WAY too high and you can't write that off as "people are mean" because it's still double that of the gay community at the height of the AIDS epidemic. The illusion that "if I change my appearance, the source of all my unhappiness will go away" needs to be broken prior to transition so people don't regret their decisions, much in the way that obese people going through gastric bypass remain depressed once they realize that losing weight doesn't suddenly make them popular or happy.</quote> This is a refreshing take, and it makes sense to me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 10/25/18 2:21:05 PM #467:	s0nicfan posted... Correct, although I think we still need to advance the science better of accurately determining whether someone has the biological markers of a "real" trans person as opposed to relying on therapy and opinion to make the call, given that it's a life-altering process. We also need better therapy solutions for both pre and post transition individuals because the suicide rate is still way, WAY too high and you can't write that off as "people are mean" because it's still double that of the gay community at the height of the AIDS epidemic. The illusion that "if I change my appearance, the source of all my unhappiness will go away" needs to be broken prior to transition so people don't regret their decisions, much in the way that obese people going through gastric bypass remain depressed once they realize that losing weight doesn't suddenly make them popular or happy. this might be the most reasonable post on this topic I've ever seen you make =) two clarifications I'd like to make on it: those who transition early are much more in line with the general pop in regards to depression. http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/137/3/e20153223 it's a small sample, but I have seen nothing to suggest it isn't true. and trans people aren't just changing appearance. we also change chemically (HRT). don't downplay it, or it's effect on our health. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Act now! Venchmen are standing by for your orders! <cite>Medussa posted [p:911147997] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Correct, although I think we still need to advance the science better of accurately determining whether someone has the biological markers of a "real" trans person as opposed to relying on therapy and opinion to make the call, given that it's a life-altering process. We also need better therapy solutions for both pre and post transition individuals because the suicide rate is still way, WAY too high and you can't write that off as "people are mean" because it's still double that of the gay community at the height of the AIDS epidemic. The illusion that "if I change my appearance, the source of all my unhappiness will go away" needs to be broken prior to transition so people don't regret their decisions, much in the way that obese people going through gastric bypass remain depressed once they realize that losing weight doesn't suddenly make them popular or happy.</quote> this might be the most reasonable post on this topic I've ever seen you make =) two clarifications I'd like to make on it: those who transition early are much more in line with the general pop in regards to depression. http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/137/3/e20153223 it's a small sample, but I have seen nothing to suggest it isn't true. and trans people aren't just changing appearance. we also change chemically (HRT). don't downplay it, or it's effect on our health.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BJ-blazkowics 10/25/18 2:22:38 PM #468:	Medussa posted... s0nicfan posted... Correct, although I think we still need to advance the science better of accurately determining whether someone has the biological markers of a "real" trans person as opposed to relying on therapy and opinion to make the call, given that it's a life-altering process. We also need better therapy solutions for both pre and post transition individuals because the suicide rate is still way, WAY too high and you can't write that off as "people are mean" because it's still double that of the gay community at the height of the AIDS epidemic. The illusion that "if I change my appearance, the source of all my unhappiness will go away" needs to be broken prior to transition so people don't regret their decisions, much in the way that obese people going through gastric bypass remain depressed once they realize that losing weight doesn't suddenly make them popular or happy. this might be the most reasonable post on this topic I've ever seen you make =) two clarifications I'd like to make on it: those who transition early are much more in line with the general pop in regards to depression. http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/137/3/e20153223 it's a small sample, but I have seen nothing to suggest it isn't true. and trans people aren't just changing appearance. we also change chemically (HRT). don't downplay it, or it's effect on our health. So basically you're saying that the ealiest they transition the better? This makes sense... to a point. IMO you have to be at least 21, or maybe 18. If you're in theory not mature enough to buy a beer or get a tattoo, why can you chop the pecker off? --- Long live The Fam! They hate us 'cuz they ain't us! <cite>BJ-blazkowics posted [p:911148115] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Correct, although I think we still need to advance the science better of accurately determining whether someone has the biological markers of a "real" trans person as opposed to relying on therapy and opinion to make the call, given that it's a life-altering process. We also need better therapy solutions for both pre and post transition individuals because the suicide rate is still way, WAY too high and you can't write that off as "people are mean" because it's still double that of the gay community at the height of the AIDS epidemic. The illusion that "if I change my appearance, the source of all my unhappiness will go away" needs to be broken prior to transition so people don't regret their decisions, much in the way that obese people going through gastric bypass remain depressed once they realize that losing weight doesn't suddenly make them popular or happy.</quote> this might be the most reasonable post on this topic I've ever seen you make =) two clarifications I'd like to make on it: those who transition early are much more in line with the general pop in regards to depression. http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/137/3/e20153223 it's a small sample, but I have seen nothing to suggest it isn't true. and trans people aren't just changing appearance. we also change chemically (HRT). don't downplay it, or it's effect on our health.</quote> So basically you're saying that the ealiest they transition the better? This makes sense... to a point. IMO you have to be at least 21, or maybe 18. If you're in theory not mature enough to buy a beer or get a tattoo, why can you chop the pecker off?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 10/25/18 2:24:36 PM #469:	"doctors say transitioning early is good for kids who need to." "fuck that, I know better! 21!" --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Act now! Venchmen are standing by for your orders! <cite>Medussa posted [p:911148245] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote>"doctors say transitioning early is good for kids who need to." "fuck that, I know better! 21!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 10/25/18 2:27:49 PM #470:	What's with people who think transitioning starts and ends with SRS? --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:911148435] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote>What's with people who think transitioning starts and ends with SRS?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/25/18 2:28:02 PM #471:	Medussa posted... this might be the most reasonable post on this topic I've ever seen you make =) I'm generally sympathetic to trans issues. I'm just not on the "there are way more trans people than you'd think and they're being murdered in the streets daily" boat and think that trans-trenders are a real problem, which is why I put my emphasis on biological markers as a required means of testing for validity prior to any sort of taxpayer-funded treatment. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:911148445] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>this might be the most reasonable post on this topic I've ever seen you make =)</quote> I'm generally sympathetic to trans issues. I'm just not on the "there are way more trans people than you'd think and they're being murdered in the streets daily" boat and think that trans-trenders are a real problem, which is why I put my emphasis on biological markers as a required means of testing for validity prior to any sort of taxpayer-funded treatment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asagi_mode_gone 10/25/18 2:31:37 PM #472:	s0nicfan posted... Medussa posted... this might be the most reasonable post on this topic I've ever seen you make =) I'm generally sympathetic to trans issues. I'm just not on the "there are way more trans people than you'd think and they're being murdered in the streets daily" boat and think that trans-trenders are a real problem, which is why I put my emphasis on biological markers as a required means of testing for validity prior to any sort of taxpayer-funded treatment. Except there's been research for decades and there's still nothing showing that there's a guaranteed marker proving someone is trans or not, the only actual way of knowing is asking the person. And no, there's not a fucking trend of people saying "you know what, I totally want to be marginalized to the extent that the literal federal government wants to define me out of existence and to revoke my civil rights to seek recourse for being discriminated against in all daily events". <cite>asagi_mode_gone posted [p:911148641] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>this might be the most reasonable post on this topic I've ever seen you make =)</quote> I'm generally sympathetic to trans issues. I'm just not on the "there are way more trans people than you'd think and they're being murdered in the streets daily" boat and think that trans-trenders are a real problem, which is why I put my emphasis on biological markers as a required means of testing for validity prior to any sort of taxpayer-funded treatment.</quote> Except there's been research for decades and there's still nothing showing that there's a guaranteed marker proving someone is trans or not, the only actual way of knowing is asking the person. And no, there's not a fucking trend of people saying "you know what, I totally want to be marginalized to the extent that the literal federal government wants to define me out of existence and to revoke my civil rights to seek recourse for being discriminated against in all daily events".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/25/18 2:35:14 PM #473:	Let me guess.... gunplagirl alt? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:911148863] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote>Let me guess.... gunplagirl alt?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asagi_mode_gone 10/25/18 2:39:01 PM #474:	hands you an animal cracker from one of those huge barrel things at Costco I like how you're not addressing the post itself. For showing tact where it was prudent you get some animal crackers. Not the frosted ones though. <cite>asagi_mode_gone posted [p:911149118] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote>hands you an animal cracker from one of those huge barrel things at Costco I like how you're not addressing the post itself. For showing tact where it was prudent you get some animal crackers. Not the frosted ones though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/25/18 2:43:27 PM #475:	Do you know how I could tell it was you? Because of the crazy. That post was a perfect snapshot of why the movement hasn't made more progress than they have. I literally blame you and people who talk and act like you more for the trans movement's struggles than I do your average republican. Sayoria convinces people there's legitimacy to the issue. You scare them off, and the worst part is you revel in it. You dance gleefully in the knowledge that you make people uncomfortable and think it's because you're exposing them to some sort of truth, when in reality you're just someone jerking off in the corner who gets off to the looks of disgust. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:911149356] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote>Do you know how I could tell it was you? Because of the crazy. That post was a perfect snapshot of why the movement hasn't made more progress than they have. I literally blame you and people who talk and act like you more for the trans movement's struggles than I do your average republican. Sayoria convinces people there's legitimacy to the issue. You scare them off, and the worst part is you revel in it. You dance gleefully in the knowledge that you make people uncomfortable and think it's because you're exposing them to some sort of truth, when in reality you're just someone jerking off in the corner who gets off to the looks of disgust.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asagi_mode_gone 10/25/18 2:55:46 PM #476:	Holy fuck. Okay so you make it into some fetish, you aren't trans yet you're convinced you know more than somebody who fucking is and who actually does the research, and you're doing some classic victim blaming. When it comes to civil rights, there is no "discussion" with this stuff. When the ends of the spectrum are A) people who want to destroy transgender people simply for existing And B) trans people who simply want to exist You don't fucking try to find some middle ground, because that middle ground is always going to say that we don't belong in some situation. And demanding that we have to convince our oppressors is historically asinine. Know how most movements got started? Gay rights movement? Attributed heavily to the Stonewall riots where a trans woman of color threw a brick at a police officer who had been sent to arrest people there for breaking the law by being homosexual. Workers rights in most of the world? More often than not, there were tons of riots and factory owners being threatened. Hell, the United States wouldn't exist today if not for open rebellion against Britain because you can't honestly expect the oppressed to try and negotiate with people who are actively trying to grind you into the dirt beneath you (sometimes figuratively, sometimes literally). So maybe learn to shut the fuck up and not do the tactics you're doing. That's called truscum logic, and it's the combination of that and respectability politics that harm trans people by creating a proof of burden that isn't even scientifically validated at this point in time. <cite>asagi_mode_gone posted [p:911150080] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote>Holy fuck. Okay so you make it into some fetish, you aren't trans yet you're convinced you know more than somebody who fucking is and who actually does the research, and you're doing some classic victim blaming. When it comes to civil rights, there is no "discussion" with this stuff. When the ends of the spectrum are A) people who want to destroy transgender people simply for existing And B) trans people who simply want to exist You don't fucking try to find some middle ground, because that middle ground is always going to say that we don't belong in some situation. And demanding that we have to convince our oppressors is historically asinine. Know how most movements got started? Gay rights movement? Attributed heavily to the Stonewall riots where a trans woman of color threw a brick at a police officer who had been sent to arrest people there for breaking the law by being homosexual. Workers rights in most of the world? More often than not, there were tons of riots and factory owners being threatened. Hell, the United States wouldn't exist today if not for open rebellion against Britain because you can't honestly expect the oppressed to try and negotiate with people who are actively trying to grind you into the dirt beneath you (sometimes figuratively, sometimes literally). So maybe learn to shut the fuck up and not do the tactics you're doing. That's called truscum logic, and it's the combination of that and respectability politics that harm trans people by creating a proof of burden that isn't even scientifically validated at this point in time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asagi_mode_gone 10/25/18 2:57:41 PM #477:	tl;dr you need to shut the fuck up and actually listen to trans people who know their shit instead of creating false proofs of burden when there's already been ridiculous hurdles we need to jump through to get medical care in even the most liberal states <cite>asagi_mode_gone posted [p:911150202] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote>tl;dr you need to shut the fuck up and actually listen to trans people who know their shit instead of creating false proofs of burden when there's already been ridiculous hurdles we need to jump through to get medical care in even the most liberal states</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/25/18 3:01:06 PM #478:	@Medussa Sorry to @ you, but I just wanted to highlight the current goings-on as an example of why you probably haven't seen much "reasonable" posts from me on the subject. I'll be leaving now before things get worse. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:911150428] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote>@Medussa Sorry to @ you, but I just wanted to highlight the current goings-on as an example of why you probably haven't seen much "reasonable" posts from me on the subject. I'll be leaving now before things get worse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asagi_mode_gone 10/25/18 3:05:45 PM #479:	Your idea of "reasonable" is ignoring the already existing proofs of burden and laughing at the idea of gender fluidity which has been a thing for millennia. That is to say, you're not reasonable, you aren't actually interested in learning enough to consider the harm caused by your views or how outdated your views are in general. <cite>asagi_mode_gone posted [p:911150679] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote>Your idea of "reasonable" is ignoring the already existing proofs of burden and laughing at the idea of gender fluidity which has been a thing for millennia. That is to say, you're not reasonable, you aren't actually interested in learning enough to consider the harm caused by your views or how outdated your views are in general.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BJ-blazkowics 10/25/18 3:54:19 PM #480:	Medussa posted... "doctors say transitioning early is good for kids who need to." "fuck that, I know better! 21!" wo-wat. I am generating discussion here. And I am no lovefist. I legit want points of view and argue things. You can't go full HURR DURR at the first sign of a difference in opinion. You might as well be right, but going full WWWWAAAAAAHHHHHHHH KHAAAAAANNNN at me like that doesn't do you any good. --- Long live The Fam! They hate us 'cuz they ain't us! <cite>BJ-blazkowics posted [p:911153511] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>"doctors say transitioning early is good for kids who need to." "fuck that, I know better! 21!"</quote> wo-wat. I am generating discussion here. And I am no lovefist. I legit want points of view and argue things. You can't go full HURR DURR at the first sign of a difference in opinion. You might as well be right, but going full WWWWAAAAAAHHHHHHHH KHAAAAAANNNN at me like that doesn't do you any good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 10/25/18 4:18:56 PM #481:	https://imgur.com/uq7BUdT --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:911154938] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote>https://imgur.com/uq7BUdT</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BJ-blazkowics 10/25/18 4:37:31 PM #482:	Bio1590 posted... https://imgur.com/uq7BUdT lol --- Long live The Fam! They hate us 'cuz they ain't us! <cite>BJ-blazkowics posted [p:911156062] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bio1590 posted...</cite> <quote>https://imgur.com/uq7BUdT</quote> lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 10/25/18 4:49:07 PM #483:	s0nicfan posted... @Medussa Sorry to @ you, but I just wanted to highlight the current goings-on as an example of why you probably haven't seen many "reasonable" posts from me on the subject. I'll be leaving now before things get worse. yeah, np. I went to work. hopefully this'll be my last post here, too. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Act now! Venchmen are standing by for your orders! <cite>Medussa posted [p:911156743] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>@Medussa Sorry to @ you, but I just wanted to highlight the current goings-on as an example of why you probably haven't seen many "reasonable" posts from me on the subject. I'll be leaving now before things get worse.</quote> yeah, np. I went to work. hopefully this'll be my last post here, too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BJ-blazkowics 10/25/18 5:27:54 PM #484:	Medussa posted... s0nicfan posted... @Medussa Sorry to @ you, but I just wanted to highlight the current goings-on as an example of why you probably haven't seen many "reasonable" posts from me on the subject. I'll be leaving now before things get worse. HUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRR DURRRRRRRRRRRRR. Fixed --- Long live The Fam! They hate us 'cuz they ain't us! <cite>BJ-blazkowics posted [p:911159055] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>@Medussa Sorry to @ you, but I just wanted to highlight the current goings-on as an example of why you probably haven't seen many "reasonable" posts from me on the subject. I'll be leaving now before things get worse.</quote> HUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRR DURRRRRRRRRRRRR.</quote> Fixed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BJ-blazkowics 10/25/18 5:28:42 PM #485:	BJ-blazkowics posted... Medussa posted... "doctors say transitioning early is good for kids who need to." "fuck that, I know better! 21!" wo-wat. I am generating discussion here. And I am no lovefist. I legit want points of view and argue things. You can't go full HURR DURR at the first sign of a difference in opinion. You might as well be right, but going full WWWWAAAAAAHHHHHHHH KHAAAAAANNNN at me like that doesn't do you any good. --- Long live The Fam! They hate us 'cuz they ain't us! <cite>BJ-blazkowics posted [p:911159106] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>BJ-blazkowics posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>"doctors say transitioning early is good for kids who need to." "fuck that, I know better! 21!"</quote> wo-wat. I am generating discussion here. And I am no lovefist. I legit want points of view and argue things. You can't go full HURR DURR at the first sign of a difference in opinion. You might as well be right, but going full WWWWAAAAAAHHHHHHHH KHAAAAAANNNN at me like that doesn't do you any good.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Eevee-Trainer 10/25/18 5:47:20 PM #487:	McgeesAlice808 posted... SRS isn't just for anyone to waltz into a clinic and go "I'd like to change my genitals please!" Would you like fries with that? ~~God I'm going to hell~~ --- See me on Discord! ^.^ Eevee's Mystery Dungeon: https://discord.gg/qavbtaQ <cite>Eevee-Trainer posted [p:911160079] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>McgeesAlice808 posted...</cite> <quote>SRS isn't just for anyone to waltz into a clinic and go "I'd like to change my genitals please!" </quote> Would you like fries with that? God I'm going to hell</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gafemage 10/25/18 5:47:49 PM #488:	Lets get this over with. --- https://imgur.com/1EOFcjn https://imgur.com/epjd8zk <cite>Gafemage posted [p:911160103] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote>Lets get this over with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 10/25/18 5:48:56 PM #489:	BJ-blazkowics posted... Fixed and you wonder why people call you ROD. literally any amount of disagreement sends you off a cliff. you going to go stalk my AMP again, posting all manner of crass bullshit to smear me (but really only getting everyone to laugh at you?) --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Act now! Venchmen are standing by for your orders! <cite>Medussa posted [p:911160164] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>BJ-blazkowics posted...</cite> <quote>Fixed</quote> and you wonder why people call you ROD. literally any amount of disagreement sends you off a cliff. you going to go stalk my AMP again, posting all manner of crass bullshit to smear me (but really only getting everyone to laugh at you?)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Spam_n_eggs 10/25/18 6:04:55 PM #490:	s0nicfan posted... OctilIery posted... Gender fluid is legit Wtf thats mean <cite>Spam_n_eggs posted [p:911161043] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>Gender fluid is legit</quote> </quote> Wtf thats mean</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Spam_n_eggs 10/25/18 6:05:17 PM #491:	Eevee-Trainer posted... McgeesAlice808 posted... SRS isn't just for anyone to waltz into a clinic and go "I'd like to change my genitals please!" Would you like fries with that? ~~God I'm going to hell~~ Lol <cite>Spam_n_eggs posted [p:911161067] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>Eevee-Trainer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>McgeesAlice808 posted...</cite> <quote>SRS isn't just for anyone to waltz into a clinic and go "I'd like to change my genitals please!" </quote> Would you like fries with that? God I'm going to hell</quote> Lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Spam_n_eggs 10/25/18 6:10:22 PM #492:	Gafemage posted... Lets get this over with. Huh? <cite>Spam_n_eggs posted [p:911161327] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>Gafemage posted...</cite> <quote>Lets get this over with.</quote> Huh?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gafemage 10/25/18 6:12:11 PM #493:	Spam_n_eggs posted... Gafemage posted... Lets get this over with. Huh? 500 --- https://imgur.com/1EOFcjn https://imgur.com/epjd8zk <cite>Gafemage posted [p:911161430] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>Spam_n_eggs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Gafemage posted...</cite> <quote>Lets get this over with.</quote> Huh?</quote> 500</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Spam_n_eggs 10/25/18 6:13:31 PM #494:	Gafemage posted... Spam_n_eggs posted... Gafemage posted... Lets get this over with. Huh? 500 Oh that is right lol. I am going to have my first 500 topic! I would like to thank the lovefist, this would not have been achievable without his help. <cite>Spam_n_eggs posted [p:911161489] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>Gafemage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Spam_n_eggs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Gafemage posted...</cite> <quote>Lets get this over with.</quote> Huh?</quote> 500</quote> Oh that is right lol. I am going to have my first 500 topic! I would like to thank the lovefist, this would not have been achievable without his help.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 10/25/18 6:14:36 PM #495:	Transgender people are fine and this administration can suck on my curly short hairs! --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:911161542] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote>Transgender people are fine and this administration can suck on my curly short hairs!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BJ-blazkowics 10/25/18 6:15:13 PM #496:	Spam_n_eggs posted... Gafemage posted... Spam_n_eggs posted... Gafemage posted... Lets get this over with. Huh? 500 Oh that is right lol. I am going to have my first 500 topic! I would like to thank the lovefist, this would not have been achievable without his help. fisty's transophobic hate ironically contributed to CE's first 500 post pro-trans thread LMAO GG fisty!!! --- Long live The Fam! They hate us 'cuz they ain't us! <cite>BJ-blazkowics posted [p:911161578] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>Spam_n_eggs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Gafemage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Spam_n_eggs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Gafemage posted...</cite> <quote>Lets get this over with.</quote> Huh?</quote> 500</quote> Oh that is right lol. I am going to have my first 500 topic! I would like to thank the lovefist, this would not have been achievable without his help.</quote> fisty's transophobic hate ironically contributed to CE's first 500 post pro-trans thread LMAO GG fisty!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BJ-blazkowics 10/25/18 6:16:12 PM #497:	Medussa posted... BJ-blazkowics posted... Fixed and you wonder why people call you ROD. literally any amount of disagreement sends you off a cliff. you going to go stalk my AMP again, posting all manner of crass bullshit to smear me (but really only getting everyone to laugh at you?) wooo-wat. where'd all that come from? lmao @Medussa is going postal at me for disagreeing with ONE thing I posted p.s. medussa: 45 is erasing you :) --- Long live The Fam! They hate us 'cuz they ain't us! <cite>BJ-blazkowics posted [p:911161631] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BJ-blazkowics posted...</cite> <quote>Fixed</quote> and you wonder why people call you ROD. literally any amount of disagreement sends you off a cliff. you going to go stalk my AMP again, posting all manner of crass bullshit to smear me (but really only getting everyone to laugh at you?)</quote> wooo-wat. where'd all that come from? lmao @Medussa is going postal at me for disagreeing with ONE thing I posted p.s. medussa: 45 is erasing you :)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Spam_n_eggs 10/25/18 6:16:31 PM #498:	CyricZ posted... Transgender people are fine and this administration can suck on my curly short hairs! Well said <cite>Spam_n_eggs posted [p:911161655] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote>Transgender people are fine and this administration can suck on my curly short hairs!</quote> Well said</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eevee-Trainer 10/25/18 6:16:42 PM #499:	chucks eraser at Trump --- See me on Discord! ^.^ Eevee's Mystery Dungeon: https://discord.gg/qavbtaQ <cite>Eevee-Trainer posted [p:911161665] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote>chucks eraser at Trump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eevee-Trainer 10/25/18 6:16:47 PM #500:	500 --- See me on Discord! ^.^ Eevee's Mystery Dungeon: https://discord.gg/qavbtaQ <cite>Eevee-Trainer posted [p:911161672] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote>500</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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