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That attack that blows away all your Djinn in Golden Sun: The Lost Age.
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Any non-boss enemy that has a instant death attack
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SSJ2GrimReaper posted...

Any non-boss enemy that has a instant death attack

I've more often heard criticism of bosses having those, and that they should be limited to random encounters. :/

Though this is for turn-based RPGs, I could definitely see it being the other way around for action-based.
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DarkTransient posted...

SSJ2GrimReaper posted...

Any non-boss enemy that has a instant death attack

I've more often heard criticism of bosses having those, and that they should be limited to random encounters. :/

Though this is for turn-based RPGs, I could definitely see it being the other way around for action-based.

IDK it makes more sense as a boss in terms of "Defeat this boss before it unleashes it's aoe instant kill attack"
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The first time I used the Litwur Chicken rage, Gau whipped out Quake and nuked not only the enemies but also my party. Note to self: Always use Float before using that rage.

Going back even further to the first time I played FFVI, Meltdown, or Merton under the Woolsey translation, hits everyone for a fuckton of fire damage. You might think you can wear good armor with high magic defense to leverage the spell in your favor, but what the original translation neglects to tell you is that it ignores all such defenses, and that the only way you're surviving using that spell is if you absorb fire damage of vulnerable party members are jumped when you use it. That was the first time I nuked myself in a pique of curiosity.
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Basically every single status ailment (poison, sleep, etc.) because they never fucking work against bosses and are generally pointless against most random encounters
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i can't hate instant-death attacks for the threat they provide. when you know you're going into an area with one-shotting enemies, you're nervous. all the way back to the ice cave in ff1.

in that game it served as a sort-of natural gear gate. if you don't get prorings, you're boned. it could've been handled in a more interesting way, sure.

the thing i hate most is probably any enemy type that just drains your MP and poses no other threat. swings barely hurt. can't turn all that MP they're eating into a party nuke. not interesting.
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Magikarps splash move
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Muffinz0rz posted...

Basically every single status ailment (poison, sleep, etc.) because they never fucking work against bosses and are generally pointless against most random encounters

THIS. What's the point of status effects if they don't work when they actually matter?
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Most enemies in Earthbound have silly attacks. Most of the enemies are pretty silly in general though.
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You'd think that Null Sleep (Nulls all damage on sleeping party members) in Digital Devil Saga was completely worthless...until you fought the secret boss.
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PlayStation era super moves that took for ever to happen. Pretty to look at but when the solar system is destroyed multiple times in one battle it's just silly.
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PlayStation era super moves that took for ever to happen.

legend of legaia, as a game.
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creativerealms posted...

PlayStation era super moves that took for ever to happen. Pretty to look at but when the solar system is destroyed multiple times in one battle it's just silly.

I let him do it once, just so I could say I saw it. I similarly let Seymour get overdrive in the Operation Mihen battle in FFX.
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Most enemies in Super Mario RPG have very silly attacks.
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Garioshi posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

Basically every single status ailment (poison, sleep, etc.) because they never fucking work against bosses and are generally pointless against most random encounters

THIS. What's the point of status effects if they don't work when they actually matter?

Most bosses, including quite a few of the optional superbosses, have status vunerabilities that can make a huge difference in Final Fantasy X. It's one of the great things about FFX's battle system. :D
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Superboss status attacks that completely ignore party member resistance / immunity to said status because lol fuck you. Lookin' at you, Chac from FFX-2.
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DarkTransient posted...

Garioshi posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

Basically every single status ailment (poison, sleep, etc.) because they never fucking work against bosses and are generally pointless against most random encounters

THIS. What's the point of status effects if they don't work when they actually matter?

Most bosses, including quite a few of the optional superbosses, have status vunerabilities that can make a huge difference in Final Fantasy X. It's one of the great things about FFX's battle system. :D

This is also key in FFXII, especially in low level games against enemies with high attack power or permanent haste. You got to blind them and renew it every time they recover or they'll skewer you. And to make things worse they moved niho-rem to the mid-late game from the earlier clan ranks, so you need to rely on things like the Indigo Pendant and magic to apply status, which means you have to switch to and from it every time you need to apply status and it takes longer, so more opportunities to lose control of the fight.

Knowing all this makes the strategic elements of FFXII way more satisfying than it was in my original games, of end game enemy DPS is so high I have to rely on the same Decoy-Reverse strats I did in FFXII vanilla to last more than three seconds against anything stronger than Earth Tyrant. Not looking forward to that Yiazmat fight, y'all.
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Cotton_Eye_Joe posted...

That attack that blows away all your Djinn in Golden Sun: The Lost Age.

I summon rushed him in TLA

In DD I ran into him by accident so instead I found out that you could dodge that move by having as many dead characters in the front row as possible.
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Any enemy that can steal from your inventory.

Who the hell thought that was a good enough idea to put in a video game and why do games keep copying it?
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Anything that brings you to automatic 1hp
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Muffinz0rz posted...

Basically every single status ailment (poison, sleep, etc.) because they never fucking work against bosses and are generally pointless against most random encounters

This.
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DevsBro posted...

Any enemy that can steal from your inventory.

Who the hell thought that was a good enough idea to put in a video game and why do games keep copying it?

This reminds me a lot of the enemies in EarthBound that do this..=/
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That one boss in Chrono cross who was the main guys Dad's friend or something. All of his attacks got me got when the field would go white.

Fuck that boss, way harder than anything else in the game
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Muffinz0rz posted...

Basically every single status ailment (poison, sleep, etc.) because they never fucking work against bosses and are generally pointless against most random encounters

It seems that in DragonQuest games, those work on bosses. They give you a nice advantage, meaning that you don't have to level up so much. But people (including me), just level up too much and defeat bosses with attacks and attack spells. I'll have to try using them more.
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Space_Man posted...

That one boss in Chrono cross who was the main guys Dad's friend or something. All of his attacks got me got when the field would go white.

Fuck that boss, way harder than anything else in the game

Miguel is quite the challenge, but he's not unreasonable.
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Garioshi posted...

Space_Man posted...

That one boss in Chrono cross who was the main guys Dad's friend or something. All of his attacks got me got when the field would go white.

Fuck that boss, way harder than anything else in the game

Miguel is quite the challenge, but he's not unreasonable.

He is when you're 8 and don't understand the games battle system
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DevsBro posted...

Any enemy that can steal from your inventory.

Who the hell thought that was a good enough idea to put in a video game and why do games keep copying it?

Related are thieves that steal gold and run away.
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creativerealms posted...

DevsBro posted...

Any enemy that can steal from your inventory.

Who the hell thought that was a good enough idea to put in a video game and why do games keep copying it?

Related are thieves that steal gold and run away.

That sucks too but at least you can farm more gold. If you want that unique sword back, you're starting the whole game (or at least your last save point) over.
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DevsBro posted...

creativerealms posted...

DevsBro posted...

Any enemy that can steal from your inventory.

Who the hell thought that was a good enough idea to put in a video game and why do games keep copying it?

Related are thieves that steal gold and run away.

That sucks too but at least you can farm more gold. If you want that unique sword back, you're starting the whole game (or at least your last save point) over.

Well-designed games will prevent that, and only let the enemy steal non-unique items like potions and shit.
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SSJ2GrimReaper posted...

Any non-boss enemy that has a instant death attack

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DarkTransient posted...

DevsBro posted...

creativerealms posted...

DevsBro posted...

Any enemy that can steal from your inventory.

Who the hell thought that was a good enough idea to put in a video game and why do games keep copying it?

Related are thieves that steal gold and run away.

That sucks too but at least you can farm more gold. If you want that unique sword back, you're starting the whole game (or at least your last save point) over.

Well-designed games will prevent that, and only let the enemy steal non-unique items like potions and shit.

And yet this topic is about stupid games instead of well-designed ones.
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Muffinz0rz posted...

Basically every single status ailment (poison, sleep, etc.) because they never fucking work against bosses and are generally pointless against most random encounters

I think more recent games like bravely default and etrian odyssey v are doing better at that.
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GiftedACIII posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

Basically every single status ailment (poison, sleep, etc.) because they never fucking work against bosses and are generally pointless against most random encounters

I think more recent games like bravely default and etrian odyssey v are doing better at that.

Latest Etrian Odyssey games have entire classes geared around getting a status effect on your enemy so they can dish out the damage. Most of the time, you'll have more luck getting something like Poison to proc, but you can totally hit bosses with stuff like Sleep and Paralysis too.
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PokemonExpert44 posted...

Most enemies in Super Mario RPG have very silly attacks.

Spore Chimes!
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sauceje posted...

GiftedACIII posted...

Muffinz0rz posted...

Basically every single status ailment (poison, sleep, etc.) because they never fucking work against bosses and are generally pointless against most random encounters

I think more recent games like bravely default and etrian odyssey v are doing better at that.

Latest Etrian Odyssey games have entire classes geared around getting a status effect on your enemy so they can dish out the damage. Most of the time, you'll have more luck getting something like Poison to proc, but you can totally hit bosses with stuff like Sleep and Paralysis too.

Yeah one of the best ways to deal with the extra boss (which is incredibly- to almost impossibly hard to beat with an ingame non-specialized team) is by filling it with binds (which is another form of status) and status and using the chain killer command that attacks every time a status/bind happens.
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TheY2AProblem posted...

PokemonExpert44 posted...

Most enemies in Super Mario RPG have very silly attacks.

Spore Chimes!

The Axem Rangers' moves are silly, too.
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Muffinz0rz posted...

Basically every single status ailment (poison, sleep, etc.) because they never fucking work against bosses and are generally pointless against most random encounters

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Superboss status attacks that completely ignore party member resistance / immunity to said status because lol fuck you. Lookin' at you, Chac from FFX-2.

This, especially since you often don't have access to said immunity until later in the game, so by the time you can equip it, the enemies you need it for are already bypassing it. And yeah, fuck Chac.
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