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Antifar
11/01/18 9:54:52 AM
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legendary_zell
11/01/18 12:14:04 PM
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Completely, blatantly, undeniably racist. From a cynical mind.
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Houston
11/01/18 12:16:49 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
Completely, blatantly, undeniably racist. From a cynical mind.


I haven't been able to watch it yet. What, specifically, is racist?
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Cornmuffins
11/01/18 12:18:57 PM
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lol wow
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littlebro07
11/01/18 12:19:37 PM
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Irregardless
11/01/18 12:19:52 PM
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I'll sum up;

"Democrats are bringing immigrants here to kill you!"
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VipaGTS
11/01/18 12:21:18 PM
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its so sad that Republicans live in such fear that this works on them lmao.
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ThePeeTape
11/01/18 12:21:29 PM
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Houston posted...
legendary_zell posted...
Completely, blatantly, undeniably racist. From a cynical mind.


I haven't been able to watch it yet. What, specifically, is racist?

you havent been able to watch in 20 second ad, but you will respond in the topic?

fuck you
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legendary_zell
11/01/18 12:22:47 PM
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Houston posted...
legendary_zell posted...
Completely, blatantly, undeniably racist. From a cynical mind.


I haven't been able to watch it yet. What, specifically, is racist?


It's less than a minute, it won't take long. But it's doing exactly what Willie Horton did. Racist fear mongering, blaming opponents for being "soft" on minority crime, tying them to murders. It's trying to scare people with images of scary brown people, using loaded phrases like they're killing our people, etc.

I doubt you'll agree that it's racist, but it's more egregious than Willie Horton was for sure.
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Houston
11/01/18 12:23:45 PM
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ThePeeTape posted...
Houston posted...
legendary_zell posted...
Completely, blatantly, undeniably racist. From a cynical mind.


I haven't been able to watch it yet. What, specifically, is racist?

you havent been able to watch in 20 second ad, but you will respond in the topic?

fuck you


I'm not in a place I can watch an ad with volume right now.

Is that hard to grasp?
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iPhone_7
11/01/18 12:32:27 PM
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The majority of illegals are law-abiding and would contribute to society, letting in a few murderers is a small price to pay. F*** Republicans, f*** Trump, vote Democrat. #AntifaIsTheBest
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Houston
11/01/18 9:50:08 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
Houston posted...
legendary_zell posted...
Completely, blatantly, undeniably racist. From a cynical mind.


I haven't been able to watch it yet. What, specifically, is racist?


It's less than a minute, it won't take long. But it's doing exactly what Willie Horton did. Racist fear mongering, blaming opponents for being "soft" on minority crime, tying them to murders. It's trying to scare people with images of scary brown people, using loaded phrases like they're killing our people, etc.

I doubt you'll agree that it's racist, but it's more egregious than Willie Horton was for sure.


So I got to watch it, and wow, I don't see how that's racist at all. Color of skin has nothing to do with it. It's images of people behaving violently, an example of our failed laws which didn't protect officers, and someone who is a part of the caravan wanted for attempted murder.

Sure, there are good people in that caravan. But if you look at the situation from a holistic perspective, there are some bad hombres mixed in that aren't properly getting vetted. Catch and release, releasing back onto American streets even after arrested for crimes (besides being illegal), etc. No good.
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Bio1590
11/01/18 9:50:42 PM
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Houston posted...
legendary_zell posted...
Houston posted...
legendary_zell posted...
Completely, blatantly, undeniably racist. From a cynical mind.


I haven't been able to watch it yet. What, specifically, is racist?


It's less than a minute, it won't take long. But it's doing exactly what Willie Horton did. Racist fear mongering, blaming opponents for being "soft" on minority crime, tying them to murders. It's trying to scare people with images of scary brown people, using loaded phrases like they're killing our people, etc.

I doubt you'll agree that it's racist, but it's more egregious than Willie Horton was for sure.


So I got to watch it, and wow, I don't see how that's racist at all. Color of skin has nothing to do with it. It's images of people behaving violently, an example of our failed laws which didn't protect officers, and someone who is a part of the caravan wanted for attempted murder.

Sure, there are good people in that caravan. But if you look at the situation from a holistic perspective, there are some bad hombres mixed in that aren't properly getting vetted. Catch and release, releasing back onto American streets even after arrested for crimes (besides being illegal), etc. No good.

The ad is a blatant lie.
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Correct_Facts
11/01/18 9:56:37 PM
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We need stronger borders and sanctuary cities should be outlawed.
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Houston
11/01/18 10:00:26 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Houston posted...
legendary_zell posted...
Houston posted...
legendary_zell posted...
Completely, blatantly, undeniably racist. From a cynical mind.


I haven't been able to watch it yet. What, specifically, is racist?


It's less than a minute, it won't take long. But it's doing exactly what Willie Horton did. Racist fear mongering, blaming opponents for being "soft" on minority crime, tying them to murders. It's trying to scare people with images of scary brown people, using loaded phrases like they're killing our people, etc.

I doubt you'll agree that it's racist, but it's more egregious than Willie Horton was for sure.


So I got to watch it, and wow, I don't see how that's racist at all. Color of skin has nothing to do with it. It's images of people behaving violently, an example of our failed laws which didn't protect officers, and someone who is a part of the caravan wanted for attempted murder.

Sure, there are good people in that caravan. But if you look at the situation from a holistic perspective, there are some bad hombres mixed in that aren't properly getting vetted. Catch and release, releasing back onto American streets even after arrested for crimes (besides being illegal), etc. No good.

The ad is a blatant lie.


How so?

And why is it that so many people on CE literally want this caravan to enter the U.S, knowing full well that there are violent people in the mix.

I haven't seen much from the left on this board, or anywhere else, that indicates they want to detain individuals and figure out who they are. The left doesn't want anyone detained. They want them to be let in.

What are your personal thoughts? Should these people be detained at our border? All of them? Some of them? If so, for how long of time? It's hard to figure out everyone's history and motives
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Zeeak4444
11/01/18 10:00:53 PM
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All the people saying it's x seconds long. Pretty sure it's the audio stopping him not the length. I'm not trying to play a video in the smoking section at work:
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Bio1590
11/01/18 10:11:13 PM
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Houston posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Houston posted...
legendary_zell posted...
Houston posted...
legendary_zell posted...
Completely, blatantly, undeniably racist. From a cynical mind.


I haven't been able to watch it yet. What, specifically, is racist?


It's less than a minute, it won't take long. But it's doing exactly what Willie Horton did. Racist fear mongering, blaming opponents for being "soft" on minority crime, tying them to murders. It's trying to scare people with images of scary brown people, using loaded phrases like they're killing our people, etc.

I doubt you'll agree that it's racist, but it's more egregious than Willie Horton was for sure.


So I got to watch it, and wow, I don't see how that's racist at all. Color of skin has nothing to do with it. It's images of people behaving violently, an example of our failed laws which didn't protect officers, and someone who is a part of the caravan wanted for attempted murder.

Sure, there are good people in that caravan. But if you look at the situation from a holistic perspective, there are some bad hombres mixed in that aren't properly getting vetted. Catch and release, releasing back onto American streets even after arrested for crimes (besides being illegal), etc. No good.

The ad is a blatant lie.


How so?

And why is it that so many people on CE literally want this caravan to enter the U.S, knowing full well that there are violent people in the mix.

I haven't seen much from the left on this board, or anywhere else, that indicates they want to detain individuals and figure out who they are. The left doesn't want anyone detained. They want them to be let in.

What are your personal thoughts? Should these people be detained at our border? All of them? Some of them? If so, for how long of time? It's hard to figure out everyone's history and motives

https://www.newsweek.com/cop-killer-illegal-immigrant-george-bush-1197876
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Antifar
11/01/18 11:59:02 PM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/11/02/trumps-new-immigration-ad-was-panned-racist-turns-out-it-was-also-based-falsehood/
The 53-second video focuses on the courtroom behavior of Luis Bracamontes, an undocumented immigrant who was convicted of killing two sheriffs deputies in California in 2014 and bragged about it during the trial.

Democrats let him into our country, the ads script reads. Democrats let him stay.

Just one problem: It doesnt appear to be true.

Bracamontes, who had been deported multiple times before his crime spree, last entered the country while George W. Bush was president, sometime between May 2001 and February 2002, when there is a record for his marriage in Arizona, according to the Sacramento Bee.

He lived near Salt Lake City until 2014, when a methamphetamine-fueled road trip ended with the murder of the two Sacramento-area deputies, according to the Bee.

The ad also failed to mention that in 1998 he was arrested on drug charges in Phoenix, then released by the office of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio for reasons unknown, the Bee reported.

Arpaio, a close Trump ally who has made waves for his hard-line immigration policies and rhetoric, was convicted in 2017 for ignoring a federal judges order to stop detaining people on the suspicion of being undocumented immigrants. He was later pardoned by Trump.

The Maricopa County Sheriffs Office did not respond to a request for comment.

Bracamontes had been deported under both Democratic and Republican presidencies.

He was first arrested on charges related to marijuana possession in Phoenix in 1996 and sentenced to four months in jail, the Bee reported. He served his time and was deported in 1997, when Bill Clinton was president, only to be deported again in 2001 soon after being arrested on marijuana charges, according to the Bee.

Bracamontes has been sentenced to the death penalty in the murder case.

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Bat178
11/02/18 12:09:11 AM
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ThePeeTape posted...
Houston posted...
legendary_zell posted...
Completely, blatantly, undeniably racist. From a cynical mind.


I haven't been able to watch it yet. What, specifically, is racist?

you havent been able to watch in 20 second ad, but you will respond in the topic?

fuck you

Maybe we don't want to give it views? Ever thought of that?
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Freddie_Mercury
11/02/18 12:10:36 AM
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Bat178 posted...
ThePeeTape posted...
Houston posted...
legendary_zell posted...
Completely, blatantly, undeniably racist. From a cynical mind.


I haven't been able to watch it yet. What, specifically, is racist?

you havent been able to watch in 20 second ad, but you will respond in the topic?

fuck you

Maybe we don't want to give it views? Ever thought of that?


its a tweet made by the president of the united states
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Roxborough4Ever
11/02/18 12:10:53 AM
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Bat178 posted...
ThePeeTape posted...
Houston posted...
legendary_zell posted...
Completely, blatantly, undeniably racist. From a cynical mind.


I haven't been able to watch it yet. What, specifically, is racist?

you havent been able to watch in 20 second ad, but you will respond in the topic?

fuck you

Maybe we don't want to give it views? Ever thought of that?


so I don't get it? is it fake? did the stuff in the court room not happen? was it bullshit for the cameras? elaborate further what is incorrect or factual
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ThyCorndog
11/02/18 12:11:11 AM
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I'm tired of all these fear mongering boomer ads. it needs to be next Wednesday already
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AsAnIndependent
11/02/18 12:16:01 AM
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iPhone_7 posted...
letting in a few murderers is a small price to pay.

i dunno anyone who would accept that price
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Bio1590
11/02/18 12:16:30 AM
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Spooking posted...
Roxborough4Ever posted...
so I don't get it? is it fake? did the stuff in the court room not happen? was it bullshit for the cameras? elaborate further what is incorrect or factual

Folks are mad at Trump because they can't believe he doesn't want unfettered immigration like they do.

Literally no one is asking for unfettered immigration.
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AsAnIndependent
11/02/18 12:17:33 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Spooking posted...
Roxborough4Ever posted...
so I don't get it? is it fake? did the stuff in the court room not happen? was it bullshit for the cameras? elaborate further what is incorrect or factual

Folks are mad at Trump because they can't believe he doesn't want unfettered immigration like they do.

Literally no one is asking for unfettered immigration.

thats literally a lie
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Roxborough4Ever
11/02/18 12:19:14 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Spooking posted...
Roxborough4Ever posted...
so I don't get it? is it fake? did the stuff in the court room not happen? was it bullshit for the cameras? elaborate further what is incorrect or factual

Folks are mad at Trump because they can't believe he doesn't want unfettered immigration like they do.

Literally no one is asking for unfettered immigration.


So are sanctuary cities not true? Can you be sent back once you get there? And why do people push for their city/state to be sanctuary?
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I4NRulez
11/02/18 12:24:00 AM
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Roxborough4Ever posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Spooking posted...
Roxborough4Ever posted...
so I don't get it? is it fake? did the stuff in the court room not happen? was it bullshit for the cameras? elaborate further what is incorrect or factual

Folks are mad at Trump because they can't believe he doesn't want unfettered immigration like they do.

Literally no one is asking for unfettered immigration.


So are sanctuary cities not true? Can you be sent back once you get there? And why do people push for their city/state to be sanctuary?


Jesus christ

Sanctuary cities arent havens for criminals. Its just that the city itself doesnt waste resources enforcing immigration policies. Immigrants who break the law still get deported.

The idea is that immigrants shouldnt fear living in the city so that they are more likely to report crimes, register for schools, and not have the fear of having their family broken up for trying to get means to legal immigration.
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