Current Events > what do you think or people who deny the holocaust?

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SaithSayer posted...

It's stupid to say AND stupid to get mad about someone saying.

How would you feel if someone said the Cuban missile crisis never happened?

shut the fuck up great value fenderbender
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I try to see if their skepticism is based on ignorance, or conclusions they have come to with critical thinking.
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Gafemage posted...

SaithSayer posted...

It's stupid to say AND stupid to get mad about someone saying.

How would you feel if someone said the Cuban missile crisis never happened?

shut the fuck up great value fenderbender

Nah.

RebelElite791 posted...

You were just shitposting the other day (yesterday?) about how good people can deny the Holocaust and implying the numbers aren't true.

The first part is true. Good people could in fact deny the Holocaust. Never said anything about the numbers though. Just explained how someone could disbelieve it due to the fact that there's known manipulation of media since yellow journalism was created.
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@Knowledge_King posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

You were just shitposting the other day (yesterday?) about how good people can deny the Holocaust and implying the numbers aren't true.

The first part is true. Good people could in fact deny the Holocaust. Never said anything about the numbers though. Just explained how someone could disbelieve it due to the fact that there's known manipulation of media since yellow journalism was created.

You said history is written by the winners and heavily implied things had been fudged. Shut the fuck up.

And no, anyone who denies it is unequivocally a piece of trash
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To be fair, history IS written by the victors and a lot of history before recording devices just came down to taking people's word for shit.

The Holocaust was way too huge of a thing to be a story, though.

RebelElite791 posted...

You said history is written by the winners and heavily implied things had been fudged. Shut the fuck up.

And no, anyone who denies it is unequivocally a piece of trash

Well you sound intelligent and like someone that weighs the facts and comes out with a logical answer.

History is written by the winners. That's no debatable. Not sure what you saw that implied things had been fudged, but I said no such thing. I just said that if you distrust media, it makes sense. Since media and history lie. A lot.

And denying the Holocaust has no bearing on how good of a person someone is.
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Knowledge_King posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

You said history is written by the winners and heavily implied things had been fudged. Shut the fuck up.

And no, anyone who denies it is unequivocally a piece of trash

Well you sound intelligent and like someone that weighs the facts and comes out with a logical answer.

History is written by the winners. That's no debatable. Not sure what you saw that implied things had been fudged, but I said no such thing. I just said that if you distrust media, it makes sense. Since media and history lie. A lot.

And denying the Holocaust has no bearing on how good of a person someone is.

Hating Jews and minimizing some of the most horrific events in human history absolutely has a bearing on how good of a person someone is.
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RebelElite791 posted...

minimizing some of the most horrific events in human history

So says the government. And we all know how credible they are...
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Oh theres another one to tag
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RebelElite791 posted...

Knowledge_King posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

You said history is written by the winners and heavily implied things had been fudged. Shut the fuck up.

And no, anyone who denies it is unequivocally a piece of trash

Well you sound intelligent and like someone that weighs the facts and comes out with a logical answer.

History is written by the winners. That's no debatable. Not sure what you saw that implied things had been fudged, but I said no such thing. I just said that if you distrust media, it makes sense. Since media and history lie. A lot.

And denying the Holocaust has no bearing on how good of a person someone is.

Hating Jews and minimizing some of the most horrific events in human history absolutely has a bearing on how good of a person someone is

So c'mon...a BRING. YOUR. JUKEBOX MONEY!

RebelElite791 posted...

Hating Jews and minimizing some of the most horrific events in human history absolutely has a bearing on how good of a person someone is.

You added the 'hating Jews' part out of nowhere. Your feelings on Jews aren't necessarily relevant to whether or not you believe the Holocaust. You could love Jews and still feel like the information doesn't add up.

It's not a 'good person' or 'bad person' thing.
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its such a weird thing to get hung up on

people do much worse/dumber stuff than holocaust denying
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just as an FYI to some of you ppl, when someone says holocaust denial they usually dont mean that the holocaust never actually happened (although i am sure you can find some people with that view).

usually what holocaust denial entails is denying the actual numbers, questioning the methods used to kill people, that kind of thing. all of these claims lead to the same exact train of thought, that the Jews are an evil scheming group of people that are exaggerating an event or fabricating a genocide for some kind of malicious power grab or whatever it is that nazis believe.

so it is really important to be able to identify the openers and little logical games neo nazis use online to engage in holocaust denial rhetoric, because if you are looking out for someone to flat out say that the holocaust was a completely made up event, you'll miss out and might end up falling for some of the rhetoric and allowing the nazi to have a platform with which to speak
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Knowledge_King posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

Hating Jews and minimizing some of the most horrific events in human history absolutely has a bearing on how good of a person someone is.

You added the 'hating Jews' part out of nowhere. Your feelings on Jews aren't necessarily relevant to whether or not you believe the Holocaust. You could love Jews and still feel like the information doesn't add up.

It's not a 'good person' or 'bad person' thing.

There is no reason to question the facts as they stand other than anti-Semitism.

No evidence anywhwere has ever pointed to the details being wrong
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What causes anti-Semitism in America? Outside of an aspiring person not making it in the media and blaming not being Jewish on not getting the work, I can't come up with any other circumstances.

I mean, don't we have pictures of the mass graves? And logbooks full of numbers that represent the prisoners held at each prison camp? And the possessions kept by Nazi officers that were taken from their Jewish prisoners?

The Germans documented a ton of shit because they wanted to have it on file, they wanted the imagery and historical proof that they had wiped out the Jewish population like vermin as a display of power. Evidence exists.
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Sick thing about holocaust deniers is they are saying soldiers who liberated the camps are liers.

MrMallard posted...

I mean, don't we have pictures of the mass graves? And logbooks full of numbers that represent the prisoners held at each prison camp? And the possessions kept by Nazi officers that were taken from their Jewish prisoners?

The Germans documented a ton of shit because they wanted to have it on file, they wanted the imagery and historical proof that they had wiped out the Jewish population like vermin as a display of power. Evidence exists.

And yet people act like it's all on word of mouth like keeping a native american story going or some shit.

Like in what context of the word deny? Deny completely? They are brainwashed though being brainwashed doesn't necessarily make you stupid.

People deny evolution and people just laugh at them and move on. Why not with this?

SaithSayer posted...

What causes anti-Semitism in America? Outside of an aspiring person not making it in the media and blaming not being Jewish on not getting the work, I can't come up with any other circumstances.

AIPAC.
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I'd say morons who have zero grasp on history, personally.

RebelElite791 posted...

There is no reason to question the facts as they stand other than anti-Semitism.

No evidence anywhwere has ever pointed to the details being wrong

There's always a reason to question 'facts'. Blindly following anything is completely dumb. The existence of Yellow Journalism is enough to cast doubt on anything ever reported.
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Idiots and assholes.
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I've never encountered it outside of the internet. Buts lots of people on the internet just say stupid shit to get a rise out of people.

Knowledge_King posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

There is no reason to question the facts as they stand other than anti-Semitism.

No evidence anywhwere has ever pointed to the details being wrong

There's always a reason to question 'facts'. Blindly following anything is completely dumb. The existence of Yellow Journalism is enough to cast doubt on anything ever reported.

God youre so fucking hopeless. Dont ever vote or breed.
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Knowledge_King posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

There is no reason to question the facts as they stand other than anti-Semitism.

No evidence anywhwere has ever pointed to the details being wrong

There's always a reason to question 'facts'. Blindly following anything is completely dumb. The existence of Yellow Journalism is enough to cast doubt on anything ever reported.

Except, you know, when those facts are backed up by millions of eye witness accounts, physical evidence, and the admittance of the people being accused that they fucking did it.

You're toxic rebel.
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Ill gladly accept being toxic towards Holocaust-denying trash
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this was a fascinating topic
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thank fuck that i never met one
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Dash_Harber posted...

Except, you know, when those facts are backed up by millions of eye witness accounts, physical evidence, and the admittance of the people being accused that they fucking did it.

Nah still up for doubt unless you personally witness these people admitting and doing it. Because otherwise you're ultimately getting the 'facts' from a secondary (at best) source and they're not always credible.

Physical evidence doesn't really tell the story. Just that people died. And again you have to see it with your own eyes.

There's a reason 'believe none of what you hear and half of what you see' is a saying.
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Jesus fucking Christ
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lolwut

Knowledge_King posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

There is no reason to question the facts as they stand other than anti-Semitism.

No evidence anywhwere has ever pointed to the details being wrong

There's always a reason to question 'facts'. Blindly following anything is completely dumb. The existence of Yellow Journalism is enough to cast doubt on anything ever reported.

The fuck is wrong with you?
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Antifar posted...

They are bad, imo

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Let's be real, even the dudes who are 'just' questioning death tolls are using it as a way to push some weird anti semitic conspiracy theory
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I've never seen someone do it outside of trolling. Maybe one white supremacist.

Do you think Germany is right to criminalize it? Though Germany is super-scared of anything that portrays them as not having learned their lesson anyway...
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Solid Sonic posted...

I've never seen someone do it outside of trolling. Maybe one white supremacist.

Spend some time on the Conspiracy subreddit and it'll eventually come up and you'll see how many people still, at minimum, question the number of victims.
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some people take pride in being sub human, but want to be humanized.
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King_Hellebuyck posted...

Knowledge_King posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

There is no reason to question the facts as they stand other than anti-Semitism.

No evidence anywhwere has ever pointed to the details being wrong

There's always a reason to question 'facts'. Blindly following anything is completely dumb. The existence of Yellow Journalism is enough to cast doubt on anything ever reported.

The fuck is wrong with you?

Nothing? Do you seriously believe everything that's reported?
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Dash_Harber posted...

Knowledge_King posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

There is no reason to question the facts as they stand other than anti-Semitism.

No evidence anywhwere has ever pointed to the details being wrong

There's always a reason to question 'facts'. Blindly following anything is completely dumb. The existence of Yellow Journalism is enough to cast doubt on anything ever reported.

Except, you know, when those facts are backed up by millions of eye witness accounts, physical evidence, and the admittance of the people being accused that they fucking did it.

As I said in my deleted message, there's a reason 'believe none of what you hear and half of what you see' is a saying.
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Sage user. Wont be touched.

Suck a dick, mods.

Watch me be modded

They are uninformed idiots.
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Knowledge_King posted...

King_Hellebuyck posted...

Knowledge_King posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

There is no reason to question the facts as they stand other than anti-Semitism.

No evidence anywhwere has ever pointed to the details being wrong

There's always a reason to question 'facts'. Blindly following anything is completely dumb. The existence of Yellow Journalism is enough to cast doubt on anything ever reported.

The fuck is wrong with you?

Nothing? Do you seriously believe everything that's reported?

Do you get off on Holocaust denial or something? What the fuck is wrong with you?
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Knowledge_King posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Knowledge_King posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

There is no reason to question the facts as they stand other than anti-Semitism.

No evidence anywhwere has ever pointed to the details being wrong

There's always a reason to question 'facts'. Blindly following anything is completely dumb. The existence of Yellow Journalism is enough to cast doubt on anything ever reported.

Except, you know, when those facts are backed up by millions of eye witness accounts, physical evidence, and the admittance of the people being accused that they fucking did it.

As I said in my deleted message, there's a reason 'believe none of what you hear and half of what you see' is a saying.

Well, again, the people that did it admitted it. That's public record and you can get it from multiple sources, from multiple countries with very different opinions and agendas. Then you can actually visit the physical sites of the holocaust. Then you have the recordings and documents from Hitler and his cronies admitting to genocide. Then you have the millions of survivors who testify and are recorded speaking about it. Then you have the people who witnessed it; civilians, soldiers, etc. Then you have the entirety of the Nuremberg trials. Then you have photographic, recorded, and documented proof from a variety of sources.

So if you really are going to assume that millions of people are lying specifically just to fool you, and that all these people have the global co-ordination to pull it off, and that they hired actors to pretend to be survivors for the rest of their lives, built fake death camps, convinced people to confess and get executed, and generally just created the biggest staged false flag in the world for some unknown purpose, you are paranoid and delusional. It would be absolutely idiotic to dismiss all of that evidence just because of some dogmatic devotion to skepticism.

You kinda gotta be dumb or racist. Proof exists.

nemu posted...

I really can't understand why they want to deny it. The only reason to deny it should be to make Hitler look less evil, but if you want to make Hitler less evil that means you like Hitler. If you like Hitler, you should like his views, and if you like his views, you should be happy it happened. Aside from that, the mindset is stupid as hell.

Also, this. I kinda thought the same thing before. Like I don't get it. The logic ability is zero for these people.
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