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Veggeta X
11/05/18 9:33:27 AM
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Where you selectively understand and focus on a portion of what is stated or said, and then you build your argument or build this crazy narrative based off selective understanding? Moving the goalpost?
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MI4 REAL
11/05/18 9:34:22 AM
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Confirmation bias?
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Veggeta X
11/05/18 9:36:09 AM
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MI4 REAL posted...
Confirmation bias?

Don't think that's it. Confirmation bias is where you already know or decided what you align with but still try to rationalize it. For example I hate my mother in law for petty reasons but I will use her gambling addiction to justify why I hate her.
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DevsBro
11/05/18 9:39:28 AM
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Ah, I can't think of a term or a word but will you accept a lexeme?
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MI4 REAL
11/05/18 9:39:38 AM
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I probably fall under numerous fallacies. One is that my view will decay if I'm absent of things that exalt me, or if I even believe they are guilty for taking advantage of me, for reasons plausible and indeterminable.
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Veggeta X
11/05/18 9:52:12 AM
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bump
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Learning
11/05/18 9:52:51 AM
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hippocrisy
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prettyprincess
11/05/18 9:52:54 AM
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must be gaslighting
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Veggeta X
11/05/18 9:53:19 AM
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prettyprincess posted...
must be gaslighting

It's not LMAO
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MI4 REAL
11/05/18 9:55:11 AM
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Strawman?
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Learning
11/05/18 9:55:44 AM
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Websight
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Veggeta X
11/05/18 9:57:43 AM
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MI4 REAL posted...
Strawman?

Naw. Strawman is taking what I said and misconstruing it to make me look bad and you look like the righteous one. For example if I said the sun is too bright today and then you will understand it as I hate the sun.
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COVxy
11/05/18 9:59:12 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
MI4 REAL posted...
Strawman?

Naw. Strawman is taking what I said and misconstruing it to make me look bad and you look like the righteous one. For example if I said the sun is too bright today and then you will understand it as I hate the sun.


Naw, strawman describes what you are taking about pretty well.
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Veggeta X
11/05/18 9:59:42 AM
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Oh okay.
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MI4 REAL
11/05/18 10:00:42 AM
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Strawman is a decoy. What if it wasn't a decoy. What is it then called?
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COVxy
11/05/18 10:07:45 AM
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MI4 REAL posted...
Strawman is a decoy. What if it wasn't a decoy. What is it then called?


Strawman is any reconstruction of an argument that distorts the original argument in favor of constructing a counter argument.
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Veggeta X
11/05/18 10:08:25 AM
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So selective understanding is also strawmanning. Hmmmm
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AsucaHayashi
11/05/18 10:09:34 AM
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Letron_James
11/05/18 10:10:01 AM
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I don't think theres a term for that. Maybe selective ignorance?
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AsucaHayashi
11/05/18 10:12:52 AM
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oh and i found this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_abstraction

In clinical psychology, selective abstraction is a type of cognitive bias or cognitive distortion in which a detail is taken out of context and believed whilst everything else in the context is ignored
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action52
11/05/18 4:28:29 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
So selective understanding is also strawmanning. Hmmmm

Well if you do it on purpose then it's not like you don't understand the other things--you're just intentionally ignoring them. A common misconception is that the strawman fallacy is based on inventing fake arguments that the other person did when in actuality it's usually based on focusing on / exaggerating the most extreme and easy to refute parts of the argument, so that it's easier to win.
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MI4 REAL
11/05/18 6:02:54 PM
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action52 posted...
Veggeta X posted...
So selective understanding is also strawmanning. Hmmmm

Well if you do it on purpose then it's not like you don't understand the other things--you're just intentionally ignoring them. A common misconception is that the strawman fallacy is based on inventing fake arguments that the other person did when in actuality it's usually based on focusing on / exaggerating the most extreme and easy to refute parts of the argument, so that it's easier to win.


Unfortunately, if you're politically illiterate like me, you do it unintentionally.
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RoboLaserGandhi
11/05/18 6:05:05 PM
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AsucaHayashi posted...
oh and i found this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_abstraction

In clinical psychology, selective abstraction is a type of cognitive bias or cognitive distortion in which a detail is taken out of context and believed whilst everything else in the context is ignored

Yup, that's CE alright.
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TiamatLover
11/05/18 6:05:39 PM
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"Cherry picking" is the term you're looking for, I think.
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MI4 REAL
11/05/18 6:06:42 PM
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Ah yes, that one is easy to understand.
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TheY2AProblem
11/05/18 6:16:31 PM
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Shining a spotlight
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