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VandorLee
11/07/18 12:12:49 AM
#1:


I got a blank sheet of paper somehow and im insane and think it says to go to a deserted town to meet my wife and i held a pillow over her face to kill her and no one could tell she was suffocated to death and then forgot this but presumably went to her funeral with her dead body thus itd be hard for me to both be insane enough to think this letter says anything or to not know shes super dead....
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Forlorn_Ass
11/07/18 12:17:04 AM
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I wouldn't expect a weeb to understand

I really need to watch cowboy bebop
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VandorLee
11/07/18 7:10:54 AM
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Why didnt he just get the tape first and spare us the game? He had to come to the town to see the tape? Pshhhh.

Why is Laura wondering around a town?
You cant just grab a kid and adopt them....
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calimelee
11/07/18 7:12:24 AM
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Forlorn_Ass posted...
I wouldn't expect a weeb to understand

I really need to watch cowboy bebop

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spikethedevil
11/07/18 7:13:03 AM
#5:


You payed no attention did you?

SPOILERS.

She died three days ago not three years.
He has her body in the car.
Laura doesn't see the town the same way.
James disn't see the letter as blank.
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vocedelmorte
11/07/18 7:14:28 AM
#6:


Just play something easier, where you don't have to think
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pegusus123456
11/07/18 7:17:20 AM
#7:


spikethedevil posted...
You payed no attention did you?

SPOILERS.

She died three days ago not three years.
He has her body in the car.
Laura doesn't see the town the same way.
James disn't see the letter as blank.

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Veggeta X
11/07/18 7:17:32 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
She died three days ago not three years.
He has her body in the car.

LMAO WTF?
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Veggeta X
11/07/18 7:20:21 AM
#9:


And Silent Hill 2 always devolve into someone justifying James killing his wife.
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pegusus123456
11/07/18 7:20:57 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
spikethedevil posted...
She died three days ago not three years.
He has her body in the car.

LMAO WTF?

The part about her being in the car is just a theory (A GAME THEORY THANKS FOR WATCHING), but the part about her only being dead for a few days is definitely true. I don't think the game ever states it directly, but Laura mentions having met Mary a few months ago whereas James believes she died years ago.

And of the two of them, Laura isn't insane so...
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Veggeta X
11/07/18 7:22:17 AM
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Isn't it implied that Silent Hill works in it's own timeline?
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pegusus123456
11/07/18 7:50:59 AM
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I don't remember anything about a timeline, just an alternate dimension.
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VandorLee
11/07/18 9:10:24 AM
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Its implied a small child is wondering an empty town.

And if shes dead three days ago then hes not in the clear from murdering her.

And magic ghost Mary visits and forgives him?

Not thinking would make this game much better.
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spikethedevil
11/07/18 9:27:31 AM
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There is no ghost Mary. He went to SH possibly to commit suicide going by one of the endings and then opened the letter when he got there. And she never forgave him.
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Tyranthraxus
11/07/18 9:35:07 AM
#15:


VandorLee posted...
Its implied a small child is wondering an empty town.

And if shes dead three days ago then hes not in the clear from murdering her.

And magic ghost Mary visits and forgives him?

Not thinking would make this game much better.


She had a terminal illness and was going to die soon anyway. It's not a very huge stretch to assume that he could suffocate her and since it's unlikely an autopsy would be performed, everyone would just think she died of the disease. That's not a problem.

The problem is the game presents outright lies that the character knows are lies to the player as truth and also the fact that he's a murdering asshole shit head.
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COVxy
11/07/18 9:43:00 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
The problem is the game presents outright lies that the character knows are lies to the player as truth


Unreliable narrators are all the rage now-a-days. Still surprised people get pissed off about it.
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FaytlessHearts
11/07/18 9:43:51 AM
#17:


Is SH2 available for xbox one/BC?
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spikethedevil
11/07/18 9:44:53 AM
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FaytlessHearts posted...
Is SH2 available for xbox one/BC?


The HD collection of 2 and 3 is.
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FaytlessHearts
11/07/18 9:45:38 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
FaytlessHearts posted...
Is SH2 available for xbox one/BC?


The HD collection of 2 and 3 is.

oh really? Never played either before. Recommended? What's the price point? Sorry not at home. Thanks for tellin me though.
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Tsuyoi3
11/07/18 9:46:26 AM
#20:


Laura is in the mist version of Silent Hill.
There is 2 other versions.
Silent Hell, aka the bloody red/watery/**** gets wack part.

And the normal town, that has cults, and a dark history, and is/was a tourist spot.

It's very possible to go in the normal version, only to wind up in the mist version after a while.
I assume this happened to Laura, though I don't remember why she was in Silent Hill in the first place.
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Veggeta X
11/07/18 10:04:00 AM
#21:


Veggeta X posted...
And Silent Hill 2 always devolve into someone justifying James killing his wife.

Thanks guys for proving me wrong. I'm happy.
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dave_is_slick
11/07/18 10:10:17 AM
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Tsuyoi3 posted...
There is 2 other versions.

There are three. The normal town, the fog world, and the otherworld.
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VandorLee
11/07/18 10:12:24 AM
#23:


Children wonder around empty towns all the time. You can just go adopt one if you like.

So i killed my wife and 3 days later i think a blank piece of paper is telling me to go to an empty town. I know my wives dead but let me fight monsters to get into a town to read a letter that im a murdering shit head. I feel better now. I think ill just kidnap this child!
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vocedelmorte
11/07/18 10:23:02 AM
#24:


You really should stop playing this game, cause you don't know whats going on in story and ignore people who telling you whats going on lol
There are a lot of guesses and assumptions to be made in this game and if you just want it to be real and simple, then you shouldn't play it or at least stop complaining
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VandorLee
11/07/18 10:23:52 AM
#25:


vocedelmorte posted...
You really should stop playing this game, cause you don't know whats going on in story and ignore people who telling you whats going on lol
There are a lot of guesses and assumptions to be made in this game and if you just want it to be real and simple, then you shouldn't play it or at least stop complaining


No, its just dumb. Im sorry your games dumb.

A crazy person that went to a town cause a blank piece of paper told him to that murdered his wife is a bad father.

Or what, did he take the demon girl from the haunted city? And the demon girl that looks exactly like his wife is sick now.

Im glad he never asked about her life being a demon girl just made for him.
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dave_is_slick
11/07/18 10:26:14 AM
#26:


VandorLee posted...
vocedelmorte posted...
You really should stop playing this game, cause you don't know whats going on in story and ignore people who telling you whats going on lol
There are a lot of guesses and assumptions to be made in this game and if you just want it to be real and simple, then you shouldn't play it or at least stop complaining


No, its just dumb. Im sorry your games dumb.

vocedelmorte posted...
Just play something easier, where you don't have to think

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VandorLee
11/07/18 10:27:28 AM
#27:


dave_is_slick posted...
VandorLee posted...
vocedelmorte posted...
You really should stop playing this game, cause you don't know whats going on in story and ignore people who telling you whats going on lol
There are a lot of guesses and assumptions to be made in this game and if you just want it to be real and simple, then you shouldn't play it or at least stop complaining


No, its just dumb. Im sorry your games dumb.

vocedelmorte posted...
Just play something easier, where you don't have to think


Just dont think to enjoy sh2. Sorry i wish it wasnt dumb.
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dave_is_slick
11/07/18 10:29:25 AM
#28:


VandorLee posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
VandorLee posted...
vocedelmorte posted...
You really should stop playing this game, cause you don't know whats going on in story and ignore people who telling you whats going on lol
There are a lot of guesses and assumptions to be made in this game and if you just want it to be real and simple, then you shouldn't play it or at least stop complaining


No, its just dumb. Im sorry your games dumb.

vocedelmorte posted...
Just play something easier, where you don't have to think


Just dont think to enjoy sh2. Sorry i wish it wasnt dumb.

It's no fun when trolls fold so easily. You could've kept this going.
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VandorLee
11/07/18 10:30:57 AM
#29:


dave_is_slick posted...
VandorLee posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
VandorLee posted...
vocedelmorte posted...
You really should stop playing this game, cause you don't know whats going on in story and ignore people who telling you whats going on lol
There are a lot of guesses and assumptions to be made in this game and if you just want it to be real and simple, then you shouldn't play it or at least stop complaining


No, its just dumb. Im sorry your games dumb.

vocedelmorte posted...
Just play something easier, where you don't have to think


Just dont think to enjoy sh2. Sorry i wish it wasnt dumb.

It's no fun when trolls fold so easily. You could've kept this going.


Theres enough dumb garbage to point out forever in SH2.
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vocedelmorte
11/07/18 10:31:09 AM
#30:


VandorLee posted...
vocedelmorte posted...
You really should stop playing this game, cause you don't know whats going on in story and ignore people who telling you whats going on lol
There are a lot of guesses and assumptions to be made in this game and if you just want it to be real and simple, then you shouldn't play it or at least stop complaining


No, its just dumb. Im sorry your games dumb.

A crazy person that went to a town cause a blank piece of paper told him to that murdered his wife is a bad father.

Or what, did he take the demon girl from the haunted city? And the demon girl that looks exactly like his wife is sick now.

Im glad he never asked about her life being a demon girl just made for him.

Everything you saying is dumb. Im amazed someone can be so stupid to interpret everything the way you do :/
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VandorLee
11/07/18 10:31:46 AM
#31:


vocedelmorte posted...
VandorLee posted...
vocedelmorte posted...
You really should stop playing this game, cause you don't know whats going on in story and ignore people who telling you whats going on lol
There are a lot of guesses and assumptions to be made in this game and if you just want it to be real and simple, then you shouldn't play it or at least stop complaining


No, its just dumb. Im sorry your games dumb.

A crazy person that went to a town cause a blank piece of paper told him to that murdered his wife is a bad father.

Or what, did he take the demon girl from the haunted city? And the demon girl that looks exactly like his wife is sick now.

Im glad he never asked about her life being a demon girl just made for him.

Everything you saying is dumb. Im amazed someone can be so stupid to interpret everything the way you do :/


There we go. I marked that.
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vocedelmorte
11/07/18 10:34:56 AM
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Hope it was worth your efforts
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VandorLee
11/07/18 10:35:49 AM
#33:


vocedelmorte posted...
Hope it was worth your efforts


Pointing out how dumb SH2 is will always be worth the effort.

But mah symbolism!
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CyricZ
11/07/18 10:36:15 AM
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Doesn't the letter vanish from inventory at some point, implying that there was never even a piece of paper?

Anyway, TC, if the game's not for you, then it's not for you, but there's no need to ridicule others who liked it just because you didn't want to make some concessions for the sake of the story.
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VandorLee
11/07/18 10:37:47 AM
#35:


CyricZ posted...
Doesn't the letter vanish from inventory at some point, implying that there was never even a piece of paper?

Anyway, TC, if the game's not for you, then it's not for you, but there's no need to ridicule others who liked it just because you didn't want to make some concessions for the sake of the story.


Its ok to like shitty games. I love a lot of em. Like how shit this story is is very enjoyable. Navigating silent hill can be hard because of all the plot holes though.
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Zodd3224
11/07/18 10:40:15 AM
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TC this is your worst thread yet
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VandorLee
11/07/18 10:41:01 AM
#37:


Zodd3224 posted...
TC this is your worst thread yet


Lol. Doubtful.
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dave_is_slick
11/07/18 10:41:23 AM
#38:


VandorLee posted...
vocedelmorte posted...
VandorLee posted...
vocedelmorte posted...
You really should stop playing this game, cause you don't know whats going on in story and ignore people who telling you whats going on lol
There are a lot of guesses and assumptions to be made in this game and if you just want it to be real and simple, then you shouldn't play it or at least stop complaining


No, its just dumb. Im sorry your games dumb.

A crazy person that went to a town cause a blank piece of paper told him to that murdered his wife is a bad father.

Or what, did he take the demon girl from the haunted city? And the demon girl that looks exactly like his wife is sick now.

Im glad he never asked about her life being a demon girl just made for him.

Everything you saying is dumb. Im amazed someone can be so stupid to interpret everything the way you do :/


There we go. I marked that.

Don't be mad he called it like it is.

Also, marked for trolling. Not to smart to admit to it.
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Tsuyoi3
11/07/18 10:49:47 AM
#39:


dave_is_slick posted...
Tsuyoi3 posted...
There is 2 other versions.

There are three. The normal town, the fog world, and the otherworld.

I know. I said 2 other besides the fog, making 3 total.

Also, what's this "blank paper" stuff? Was it ever revealed the paper was blank?
It's not the first time the town has created stuff in the normal world, like SH4s door.
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Tyranthraxus
11/07/18 10:53:37 AM
#40:


Tsuyoi3 posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
Tsuyoi3 posted...
There is 2 other versions.

There are three. The normal town, the fog world, and the otherworld.

I know. I said 2 other besides the fog, making 3 total.

Also, what's this "blank paper" stuff? Was it ever revealed the paper was blank?
It's not the first time the town has created stuff in the normal world, like SH4s door.


The blank paper isn't blank, it just fills out differently depending on what you do during the game.
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VandorLee
11/07/18 11:03:51 AM
#41:


Oh so its a magical letter! Wow, pretty fucking stupid.
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Tyranthraxus
11/07/18 11:17:37 AM
#42:


VandorLee posted...
Oh so its a magical letter! Wow, pretty fucking stupid.

No it's not a magical letter. It always had text, but because the game is lying to you, James says that it's blank even though it's really not.
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Zodd3224
11/07/18 11:22:01 AM
#43:


TC is clearly trolling
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PlsGodDontBanMe
11/07/18 11:23:13 AM
#44:


TC is correct in every point he has made in this topic
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Menardii
11/07/18 11:24:45 AM
#45:


Silent Hill is just the poor man's Resident Evil.
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The-19th-Sparta
11/07/18 11:27:56 AM
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This topic is low quality troll bait. I'm just surprised he's targeting SH fans instead of something with more diehard/obsessed fans like NIER: Automata.
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VandorLee
11/07/18 11:32:39 AM
#47:


Tyranthraxus posted...
VandorLee posted...
Oh so its a magical letter! Wow, pretty fucking stupid.

No it's not a magical letter. It always had text, but because the game is lying to you, James says that it's blank even though it's really not.


Not better. Magical would be less dumb.
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VandorLee
11/07/18 11:33:16 AM
#48:


Zodd3224 posted...
TC is clearly trolling


Silent Hill trolls you. Callin it for what it is.
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VandorLee
11/07/18 11:34:01 AM
#49:


The-19th-Sparta posted...
This topic is low quality troll bait. I'm just surprised he's targeting SH fans instead of something with more diehard/obsessed fans like NIER: Automata.


Because pointing out clear garbage in SH2 is considered trolling to fans...
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Tsuyoi3
11/07/18 12:02:51 PM
#50:


I take it TC prefers completely realistic games then, as the notion of a town that reaches into your mind and creates stuff is apparently "dumb"
That and the trolling thing.

Tyranthraxus posted...
Tsuyoi3 posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
Tsuyoi3 posted...
There is 2 other versions.

There are three. The normal town, the fog world, and the otherworld.

I know. I said 2 other besides the fog, making 3 total.

Also, what's this "blank paper" stuff? Was it ever revealed the paper was blank?
It's not the first time the town has created stuff in the normal world, like SH4s door.


The blank paper isn't blank, it just fills out differently depending on what you do during the game.

Ah.

Seems Laura ran away from an orphanage, and is likely to have gotten a ride from Eddie, according to the introductory video.
So there's an explanation for why she's there, the letters existence and non-blankness, and the possibility of adoption (in one ending), as well as why James could get away.

So literally everything TC complained about has a decent explanation.
Unless of course fantasy elements like the town itself are automatically no-no's.
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