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NeoShadowhen 11/08/18 2:27:57 PM #54:	So do you think you'll see abortion clinics right on the border between states that allow and don't? Like fireworks sellers? <cite>NeoShadowhen posted [p:912056233] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote>So do you think you'll see abortion clinics right on the border between states that allow and don't? Like fireworks sellers?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thatuser 11/08/18 2:29:02 PM #55:	Twin3Turbo posted... Thatuser posted... That's fine. Federal government, well, state too, has too much say in how other people choose to live as it is. Isnt federal government saying youre allowed to have abortions less restrictive than the potential state governments that will try to ban it? I included state as well as federal because I think both are obtrusive. If I were a woman I wouldn't let a government dictate what I can and can't do with my body. <cite>Thatuser posted [p:912056290] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote><cite>Twin3Turbo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Thatuser posted...</cite> <quote>That's fine. Federal government, well, state too, has too much say in how other people choose to live as it is.</quote> Isnt federal government saying youre allowed to have abortions less restrictive than the potential state governments that will try to ban it?</quote> I included state as well as federal because I think both are obtrusive. If I were a woman I wouldn't let a government dictate what I can and can't do with my body.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HypnoCoosh 11/08/18 2:34:52 PM #56:	Thatuser posted... I wouldn't let a government dictate what I can and can't do with my body. Like illegal drugs, illegal sexual activities, etc? --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis <cite>HypnoCoosh posted [p:912056632] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote><cite>Thatuser posted...</cite> <quote>I wouldn't let a government dictate what I can and can't do with my body.</quote> Like illegal drugs, illegal sexual activities, etc?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 11/08/18 2:35:17 PM #57:	The people who say that it's easy for them to travel. Lower income people need the extra help. --- Sarcasm is my basic function. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:912056657] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote>The people who say that it's easy for them to travel. Lower income people need the extra help.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thatuser 11/08/18 2:37:05 PM #58:	HypnoCoosh posted... Thatuser posted... I wouldn't let a government dictate what I can and can't do with my body. Like illegal drugs, illegal sexual activities, etc? This seems like you're trying to get me to endorse illegal activity. I'm simply saying an individual's body should not be the subject of restrictive laws. I am against that, yes. <cite>Thatuser posted [p:912056765] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote><cite>HypnoCoosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Thatuser posted...</cite> <quote>I wouldn't let a government dictate what I can and can't do with my body.</quote> Like illegal drugs, illegal sexual activities, etc?</quote> This seems like you're trying to get me to endorse illegal activity. I'm simply saying an individual's body should not be the subject of restrictive laws. I am against that, yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 11/08/18 3:24:03 PM #59:	I know what the Torah is. The Torah is special because it gives rules that were important in a nomadic tribal society (things like don't lie, steal, or kill, and also things like don't eat blood and what to do with mold). It's also where people people get these "rules" of modern Christianity, although this is the first time that I've heard it justifies abortion. I know you are being intentionally dishonest, or hypocritical at best, but other rules in the Torah include that homosexuality is wrong, don't to plant your field with different seeds, and don't wear clothing made of more than one material. In any case, none of this is Christianity. If you want to respond by saying that Jesus said whoever sets aside the least of these rules will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, I'll leave you with this For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:912059509] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote>I know what the Torah is. The Torah is special because it gives rules that were important in a nomadic tribal society (things like don't lie, steal, or kill, and also things like don't eat blood and what to do with mold). It's also where people people get these "rules" of modern Christianity, although this is the first time that I've heard it justifies abortion. I know you are being intentionally dishonest, or hypocritical at best, but other rules in the Torah include that homosexuality is wrong, don't to plant your field with different seeds, and don't wear clothing made of more than one material. In any case, none of this is Christianity. If you want to respond by saying that Jesus said whoever sets aside the least of these rules will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, I'll leave you with this <quote>For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TiamatLover 11/08/18 3:27:48 PM #60:	Overturning that ruling alone, would put it back to the states to decide. It would also open the doors to pass a federal law outright banning it. --- https://imgtc.com/i/0mboxsZ.png <-- Tiamat is best babe, if you disagree you're objectively wrong. https://tinyurl.com/dtlamulana2 <-- La-Mulana 2 LP <cite>TiamatLover posted [p:912059709] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote>Overturning that ruling alone, would put it back to the states to decide. It would also open the doors to pass a federal law outright banning it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 11/08/18 3:33:03 PM #61:	There has got to be ways to cut the abortion rate to the point that this discussion doesn't even happen. Birth control dispensers in schools, thorough sex education, people more willing to practice safe sex. Both ends of this debate are emotional responses. I personally can't even watch an abortion procedure without feeling a massive amount of sadness over take me. Hell, I can't watch children being horridly mistreated, but I don't have the means to help them. It's just unfortunate that some of these little lives aren't wanted. I wish it never got that point. I wish that people who don't want children simply do everything within their power to minimize the risks of a pregnancy. --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 25408 losses. <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:912059983] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote>There has got to be ways to cut the abortion rate to the point that this discussion doesn't even happen. Birth control dispensers in schools, thorough sex education, people more willing to practice safe sex. Both ends of this debate are emotional responses. I personally can't even watch an abortion procedure without feeling a massive amount of sadness over take me. Hell, I can't watch children being horridly mistreated, but I don't have the means to help them. It's just unfortunate that some of these little lives aren't wanted. I wish it never got that point. I wish that people who don't want children simply do everything within their power to minimize the risks of a pregnancy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alpha218 11/08/18 3:35:56 PM #62:	Thats not how it works though. If youre stuck in the middle of Texas what are you going to do? If youre too poor or cant take time off of work to travel to another state what are you going to do? If your family is actively trying to prevent you from getting an abortion and the nearest clinic is 8 hours away over in the next state, what are you going to do? --- I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite user on the Citadel. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1349-mario Now Playing: Magic the Gathering: Arena <cite>Alpha218 posted [p:912060138] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote>Thats not how it works though. If youre stuck in the middle of Texas what are you going to do? If youre too poor or cant take time off of work to travel to another state what are you going to do? If your family is actively trying to prevent you from getting an abortion and the nearest clinic is 8 hours away over in the next state, what are you going to do?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TiamatLover 11/08/18 3:48:07 PM #63:	Dyinglegacy posted... There has got to be ways to cut the abortion rate to the point that this discussion doesn't even happen. Birth control dispensers in schools, thorough sex education, people more willing to practice safe sex. The two aren't mutually exclusive. You can ban the abortions themself, while also improving access to (and education around) contraception and/or support for those who end up with a child but have legitimate difficulty supporting them. In fact, I'd say implementing the ban without taking those kind of steps as well, would be a really dumb move. --- https://imgtc.com/i/0mboxsZ.png <-- Tiamat is best babe, if you disagree you're objectively wrong. https://tinyurl.com/dtlamulana2 <-- La-Mulana 2 LP <cite>TiamatLover posted [p:912060769] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote>There has got to be ways to cut the abortion rate to the point that this discussion doesn't even happen. Birth control dispensers in schools, thorough sex education, people more willing to practice safe sex.</quote> The two aren't mutually exclusive. You can ban the abortions themself, while also improving access to (and education around) contraception and/or support for those who end up with a child but have legitimate difficulty supporting them. In fact, I'd say implementing the ban without taking those kind of steps as well, would be a really dumb move.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 11/08/18 3:49:37 PM #64:	Wealthy conservatives want to be able to go to other states to get abortions. The poor and working class will be the ones who suffer. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:912060845] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote>Wealthy conservatives want to be able to go to other states to get abortions. The poor and working class will be the ones who suffer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KILBOTz 11/08/18 3:52:50 PM #65:	0AbsoluteZero0 posted... Unfortunately it would be the poorest and most unable to bear the costs of travel who would be unable to have abortions thanks to this. Good thing the Republicans who deny them abortion are compassionate and will gladly help these poor people with their new children, right? Sounds like it would open up business opportunity for inter-state abortion buses. Go around pick up pregnant women that want abortions, go to a clinic, get paid! --- https://imgur.com/O3syCWD https://imgur.com/k3YiBdG <cite>KILBOTz posted [p:912061038] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote>Unfortunately it would be the poorest and most unable to bear the costs of travel who would be unable to have abortions thanks to this. Good thing the Republicans who deny them abortion are compassionate and will gladly help these poor people with their new children, right?</quote> Sounds like it would open up business opportunity for inter-state abortion buses. Go around pick up pregnant women that want abortions, go to a clinic, get paid!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 11/08/18 3:55:55 PM #66:	0AbsoluteZero0 posted... Unfortunately it would be the poorest and most unable to bear the costs of travel who would be unable to have abortions thanks to this. Good thing the Republicans who deny them abortion are compassionate and will gladly help these poor people with their new children, right? --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:912061207] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote><cite>0AbsoluteZero0 posted...</cite> <quote>Unfortunately it would be the poorest and most unable to bear the costs of travel who would be unable to have abortions thanks to this. Good thing the Republicans who deny them abortion are compassionate and will gladly help these poor people with their new children, right?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 11/08/18 3:56:22 PM #67:	iClockwork posted... Doesn't matter. We cannot allow our country to enact Federal laws that demand the murder of children. Let them go elsewhere and be judged by god for their sin. So, this all comes down to your feelings about God. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:912061229] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote>Doesn't matter. We cannot allow our country to enact Federal laws that demand the murder of children. Let them go elsewhere and be judged by god for their sin.</quote> So, this all comes down to your feelings about God.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FightingFefnir 11/08/18 3:56:57 PM #68:	I can't stop them from going to other states but at least then I'm not paying for it. <cite>FightingFefnir posted [p:912061273] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote>I can't stop them from going to other states but at least then I'm not paying for it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 11/08/18 3:57:58 PM #69:	@TiamatLover posted... Overturning that ruling alone, would put it back to the states to decide. It would also open the doors to pass a federal law outright banning it. Which will never, ever pass the newly democratic controlled house. --- No one triggers the Trumpanzees quite like you do - Bullet_Wing Conservatism is a plague on society. Formerly known as The_Great_Geno. <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:912061332] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote><cite>@TiamatLover posted...</cite> <quote>Overturning that ruling alone, would put it back to the states to decide. It would also open the doors to pass a federal law outright banning it.</quote> Which will never, ever pass the newly democratic controlled house.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TiamatLover 11/08/18 4:00:52 PM #70:	Genocet_10-325 posted... @TiamatLover posted... Overturning that ruling alone, would put it back to the states to decide. It would also open the doors to pass a federal law outright banning it. Which will never, ever pass the newly democratic controlled house. Step 1. Republicans publicly claim to support abortion. That's all. Democrats will now support the bill as a knee-jerk reaction just for the sake of disagreeing. By the time it gets to the Senate and Republicans have to reveal the plan, it's too late for Democrats to stop it. --- https://imgtc.com/i/0mboxsZ.png <-- Tiamat is best babe, if you disagree you're objectively wrong. https://tinyurl.com/dtlamulana2 <-- La-Mulana 2 LP <cite>TiamatLover posted [p:912061468] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@TiamatLover posted...</cite> <quote>Overturning that ruling alone, would put it back to the states to decide. It would also open the doors to pass a federal law outright banning it.</quote> Which will never, ever pass the newly democratic controlled house.</quote> Step 1. Republicans publicly claim to support abortion. That's all. Democrats will now support the bill as a knee-jerk reaction just for the sake of disagreeing. By the time it gets to the Senate and Republicans have to reveal the plan, it's too late for Democrats to stop it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 11/08/18 4:00:56 PM #71:	Roe vs Wade being overturned would emboldened more women to vote. --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:912061471] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote>Roe vs Wade being overturned would emboldened more women to vote.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Middle hope 11/08/18 4:02:13 PM #72:	If it does, will more women be smart about sex and hop on the pill or make their men wear condoms? --- \|)\|_ \|_\_/\|)\|_\|)\| - RE expert44 \|\\|__ \|__/\\| \|__\|\_\| This is RE expert44 (b^.^b)Have a nice day... <cite>Middle hope posted [p:912061549] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote>If it does, will more women be smart about sex and hop on the pill or make their men wear condoms?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TiamatLover 11/08/18 4:03:00 PM #73:	Middle hope posted... If it does, will more women be smart about sex and hop on the pill or make their men wear condoms? Availability of these things is a huge problem in some places; doubly so for those who are underage. (You can argue all you like that "well they shouldn't be having sex then!", but that doesn't change that they're going to do so anyway. Best thing that can be done is make sure they've got access to contraception.) --- https://imgtc.com/i/0mboxsZ.png <-- Tiamat is best babe, if you disagree you're objectively wrong. https://tinyurl.com/dtlamulana2 <-- La-Mulana 2 LP <cite>TiamatLover posted [p:912061598] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote><cite>Middle hope posted...</cite> <quote>If it does, will more women be smart about sex and hop on the pill or make their men wear condoms?</quote> Availability of these things is a huge problem in some places; doubly so for those who are underage. (You can argue all you like that "well they shouldn't be having sex then!", but that doesn't change that they're going to do so anyway. Best thing that can be done is make sure they've got access to contraception.)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 11/08/18 4:03:20 PM #74:	TiamatLover posted... Genocet_10-325 posted... @TiamatLover posted... Overturning that ruling alone, would put it back to the states to decide. It would also open the doors to pass a federal law outright banning it. Which will never, ever pass the newly democratic controlled house. Step 1. Republicans publicly claim to support abortion. That's all. Democrats will now support the bill as a knee-jerk reaction just for the sake of disagreeing. By the time it gets to the Senate and Republicans have to reveal the plan, it's too late for Democrats to stop it. This is a doozy of a stupid post. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://imgur.com/6ezFwG1 <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:912061622] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote><cite>TiamatLover posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@TiamatLover posted...</cite> <quote>Overturning that ruling alone, would put it back to the states to decide. It would also open the doors to pass a federal law outright banning it.</quote> Which will never, ever pass the newly democratic controlled house.</quote> Step 1. Republicans publicly claim to support abortion. That's all. Democrats will now support the bill as a knee-jerk reaction just for the sake of disagreeing. By the time it gets to the Senate and Republicans have to reveal the plan, it's too late for Democrats to stop it.</quote> This is a doozy of a stupid post.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MorbidFaithless 11/08/18 4:05:12 PM #75:	Middle hope posted... If it does, will more women be smart about sex and hop on the pill or make their men wear condoms? Yes because as we all know, it's often the women who insist on not using condoms. Men never play a role in birth control. --- walk like thunder <cite>MorbidFaithless posted [p:912061733] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote><cite>Middle hope posted...</cite> <quote>If it does, will more women be smart about sex and hop on the pill or make their men wear condoms?</quote> Yes because as we all know, it's often the women who insist on not using condoms. Men never play a role in birth control.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Middle hope 11/08/18 4:09:23 PM #76:	TiamatLover posted... Middle hope posted... If it does, will more women be smart about sex and hop on the pill or make their men wear condoms? Availability of these things is a huge problem in some places; doubly so for those who are underage. (You can argue all you like that "well they shouldn't be having sex then!", but that doesn't change that they're going to do so anyway. Best thing that can be done is make sure they've got access to contraception.) If they don't have access to condoms and shit then they dont have easy access to abortions either. Planned parenthood will hook you up if you just ask. Underage or not. --- \|)\|_ \|_\_/\|)\|_\|)\| - RE expert44 \|\\|__ \|__/\\| \|__\|\_\| This is RE expert44 (b^.^b)Have a nice day... <cite>Middle hope posted [p:912061955] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote><cite>TiamatLover posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Middle hope posted...</cite> <quote>If it does, will more women be smart about sex and hop on the pill or make their men wear condoms?</quote> Availability of these things is a huge problem in some places; doubly so for those who are underage. (You can argue all you like that "well they shouldn't be having sex then!", but that doesn't change that they're going to do so anyway. Best thing that can be done is make sure they've got access to contraception.)</quote> If they don't have access to condoms and shit then they dont have easy access to abortions either. Planned parenthood will hook you up if you just ask. Underage or not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TiamatLover 11/08/18 4:10:41 PM #77:	Middle hope posted... TiamatLover posted... Middle hope posted... If it does, will more women be smart about sex and hop on the pill or make their men wear condoms? Availability of these things is a huge problem in some places; doubly so for those who are underage. (You can argue all you like that "well they shouldn't be having sex then!", but that doesn't change that they're going to do so anyway. Best thing that can be done is make sure they've got access to contraception.) If they don't have access to condoms and shit then they dont have easy access to abortions either. Planned parenthood will hook you up if you just ask. Underage or not. Are parents of an underage girl more likely to take her to an appointment to get contraception before she's pregnant, or to take her to one to get an abortion when she already is? You'd hope the answer would be the former, but sadly, it isn't. Something like being able to get contraception anonymously (or at least, discreetly and without it being disclosed to parents / etc) through schools could go a long way to helping here. --- https://imgtc.com/i/0mboxsZ.png <-- Tiamat is best babe, if you disagree you're objectively wrong. https://tinyurl.com/dtlamulana2 <-- La-Mulana 2 LP <cite>TiamatLover posted [p:912062025] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote><cite>Middle hope posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TiamatLover posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Middle hope posted...</cite> <quote>If it does, will more women be smart about sex and hop on the pill or make their men wear condoms?</quote> Availability of these things is a huge problem in some places; doubly so for those who are underage. (You can argue all you like that "well they shouldn't be having sex then!", but that doesn't change that they're going to do so anyway. Best thing that can be done is make sure they've got access to contraception.)</quote> If they don't have access to condoms and shit then they dont have easy access to abortions either. Planned parenthood will hook you up if you just ask. Underage or not.</quote> Are parents of an underage girl more likely to take her to an appointment to get contraception before she's pregnant, or to take her to one to get an abortion when she already is? You'd hope the answer would be the former, but sadly, it isn't. Something like being able to get contraception anonymously (or at least, discreetly and without it being disclosed to parents / etc) through schools could go a long way to helping here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 11/08/18 4:11:24 PM #78:	DrizztLink posted... TiamatLover posted... Genocet_10-325 posted... @TiamatLover posted... Overturning that ruling alone, would put it back to the states to decide. It would also open the doors to pass a federal law outright banning it. Which will never, ever pass the newly democratic controlled house. Step 1. Republicans publicly claim to support abortion. That's all. Democrats will now support the bill as a knee-jerk reaction just for the sake of disagreeing. By the time it gets to the Senate and Republicans have to reveal the plan, it's too late for Democrats to stop it. This is a doozy of a stupid post. Yeah it takes effort to make a post that dumb --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:912062064] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote><cite>DrizztLink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TiamatLover posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@TiamatLover posted...</cite> <quote>Overturning that ruling alone, would put it back to the states to decide. It would also open the doors to pass a federal law outright banning it.</quote> Which will never, ever pass the newly democratic controlled house.</quote> Step 1. Republicans publicly claim to support abortion. That's all. Democrats will now support the bill as a knee-jerk reaction just for the sake of disagreeing. By the time it gets to the Senate and Republicans have to reveal the plan, it's too late for Democrats to stop it.</quote> This is a doozy of a stupid post.</quote> Yeah it takes effort to make a post that dumb</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 11/08/18 4:28:56 PM #79:	MorbidFaithless posted... Middle hope posted... If it does, will more women be smart about sex and hop on the pill or make their men wear condoms? Yes because as we all know, it's often the women who insist on not using condoms. Men never play a role in birth control. My ex of three years hated condoms and couldn't use birth control due to a medical condition, as a result I got her pregnant 3 times during that relationship. Thankfully she hates children and got 3 abortions. --- No one triggers the Trumpanzees quite like you do - Bullet_Wing Conservatism is a plague on society. Formerly known as The_Great_Geno. <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:912063079] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote><cite>MorbidFaithless posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Middle hope posted...</cite> <quote>If it does, will more women be smart about sex and hop on the pill or make their men wear condoms?</quote> Yes because as we all know, it's often the women who insist on not using condoms. Men never play a role in birth control.</quote> My ex of three years hated condoms and couldn't use birth control due to a medical condition, as a result I got her pregnant 3 times during that relationship. Thankfully she hates children and got 3 abortions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Middle hope 11/08/18 4:30:49 PM #80:	TiamatLover posted... Middle hope posted... TiamatLover posted... Middle hope posted... If it does, will more women be smart about sex and hop on the pill or make their men wear condoms? Availability of these things is a huge problem in some places; doubly so for those who are underage. (You can argue all you like that "well they shouldn't be having sex then!", but that doesn't change that they're going to do so anyway. Best thing that can be done is make sure they've got access to contraception.) If they don't have access to condoms and shit then they dont have easy access to abortions either. Planned parenthood will hook you up if you just ask. Underage or not. Are parents of an underage girl more likely to take her to an appointment to get contraception before she's pregnant, or to take her to one to get an abortion when she already is? You'd hope the answer would be the former, but sadly, it isn't. Something like being able to get contraception anonymously (or at least, discreetly and without it being disclosed to parents / etc) through schools could go a long way to helping here. Does CVS not sell to minors? --- \|)\|_ \|_\_/\|)\|_\|)\| - RE expert44 \|\\|__ \|__/\\| \|__\|\_\| This is RE expert44 (b^.^b)Have a nice day... <cite>Middle hope posted [p:912063214] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote><cite>TiamatLover posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Middle hope posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TiamatLover posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Middle hope posted...</cite> <quote>If it does, will more women be smart about sex and hop on the pill or make their men wear condoms?</quote> Availability of these things is a huge problem in some places; doubly so for those who are underage. (You can argue all you like that "well they shouldn't be having sex then!", but that doesn't change that they're going to do so anyway. Best thing that can be done is make sure they've got access to contraception.)</quote> If they don't have access to condoms and shit then they dont have easy access to abortions either. Planned parenthood will hook you up if you just ask. Underage or not.</quote> Are parents of an underage girl more likely to take her to an appointment to get contraception before she's pregnant, or to take her to one to get an abortion when she already is? You'd hope the answer would be the former, but sadly, it isn't. Something like being able to get contraception anonymously (or at least, discreetly and without it being disclosed to parents / etc) through schools could go a long way to helping here.</quote> Does CVS not sell to minors?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Genocet_10-325 11/08/18 4:31:25 PM #81:	Middle hope posted... TiamatLover posted... Middle hope posted... TiamatLover posted... Middle hope posted... If it does, will more women be smart about sex and hop on the pill or make their men wear condoms? Availability of these things is a huge problem in some places; doubly so for those who are underage. (You can argue all you like that "well they shouldn't be having sex then!", but that doesn't change that they're going to do so anyway. Best thing that can be done is make sure they've got access to contraception.) If they don't have access to condoms and shit then they dont have easy access to abortions either. Planned parenthood will hook you up if you just ask. Underage or not. Are parents of an underage girl more likely to take her to an appointment to get contraception before she's pregnant, or to take her to one to get an abortion when she already is? You'd hope the answer would be the former, but sadly, it isn't. Something like being able to get contraception anonymously (or at least, discreetly and without it being disclosed to parents / etc) through schools could go a long way to helping here. Does CVS not sell to minors? Condoms? I never had a problem buying them there even when I was 14 --- No one triggers the Trumpanzees quite like you do - Bullet_Wing Conservatism is a plague on society. Formerly known as The_Great_Geno. <cite>Genocet_10-325 posted [p:912063255] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote><cite>Middle hope posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TiamatLover posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Middle hope posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TiamatLover posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Middle hope posted...</cite> <quote>If it does, will more women be smart about sex and hop on the pill or make their men wear condoms?</quote> Availability of these things is a huge problem in some places; doubly so for those who are underage. (You can argue all you like that "well they shouldn't be having sex then!", but that doesn't change that they're going to do so anyway. Best thing that can be done is make sure they've got access to contraception.)</quote> If they don't have access to condoms and shit then they dont have easy access to abortions either. Planned parenthood will hook you up if you just ask. Underage or not.</quote> Are parents of an underage girl more likely to take her to an appointment to get contraception before she's pregnant, or to take her to one to get an abortion when she already is? You'd hope the answer would be the former, but sadly, it isn't. Something like being able to get contraception anonymously (or at least, discreetly and without it being disclosed to parents / etc) through schools could go a long way to helping here.</quote> Does CVS not sell to minors?</quote> Condoms? I never had a problem buying them there even when I was 14</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iClockwork 11/09/18 6:03:38 AM #82:	Solar_Crimson posted... So, this all comes down to your feelings about God. No God's word isn't based on how his children feel. It's about what IS morally correct. <cite>iClockwork posted [p:912095837] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote>So, this all comes down to your feelings about God. </quote> No God's word isn't based on how his children feel. It's about what IS morally correct.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 11/09/18 7:00:08 AM #83:	It's more moral to allow abortions. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:912096919] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote>It's more moral to allow abortions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 11/09/18 7:25:40 AM #84:	Rad_Chad posted... I wish they cared as much after it was born First degree murder is already illegal and everyone agrees that is a good position. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:912097404] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rad_Chad posted...</cite> <quote>I wish they cared as much after it was born</quote> First degree murder is already illegal and everyone agrees that is a good position.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 11/09/18 7:41:23 AM #85:	If Republicans get rid of RvW, then what will they use to pull in single issue voters and the religious? They'll try, fail, then blame Democrats to get sympathy and support for their party against those evil, vile, baby killing liberals!!!!! What do conservatives want anyway, abortion to be banned or more babies "moochin off mah tax dollars!"? --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:912097733] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote>If Republicans get rid of RvW, then what will they use to pull in single issue voters and the religious? They'll try, fail, then blame Democrats to get sympathy and support for their party against those evil, vile, baby killing liberals!!!!! What do conservatives want anyway, abortion to be banned or more babies "moochin off mah tax dollars!"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FightingFefnir 11/09/18 7:49:50 AM #86:	Southernfatman posted... If Republicans get rid of RvW, then what will they use to pull in single issue voters and the religious? I mean when the Democratic party is being overran by socialists and sjws so it's really not hard to see why people would be grossly opposed to them. <cite>FightingFefnir posted [p:912097929] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote><cite>Southernfatman posted...</cite> <quote>If Republicans get rid of RvW, then what will they use to pull in single issue voters and the religious? </quote> I mean when the Democratic party is being overran by socialists and sjws so it's really not hard to see why people would be grossly opposed to them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iClockwork 11/09/18 7:51:03 AM #87:	Dragonblade01 posted... It's more moral to allow abortions. Killing children because having them is inconvenient isn't moral. <cite>iClockwork posted [p:912097956] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>It's more moral to allow abortions. </quote> Killing children because having them is inconvenient isn't moral.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezDroppedFreak 11/09/18 7:51:41 AM #88:	iClockwork posted... Genocet_10-325 posted... iClockwork posted... Doesn't matter. We cannot allow our country to enact Federal laws that demand the murder of children. Let them go elsewhere and be judged by god for their sin. Nobody cares what your magic sky monster thinks. The supreme court does :) Which is pretty fucked yeah Also Its a violation of GOD and JESUS Ok so lets help these kids when theyre out of the womb NO. Bunch of FREELOADING infants! Also Want to lower abortion rates? Maybe actually teach safe sex practices in abstinence-only states, which, shockingly, are comprised of mostly bible thumpers yet have the highest teen pregnancy rates. --- Beep bep <.< >.> <.< Hotness: https://imgtc.com/i/6SC3Wu5.jpg <cite>DezDroppedFreak posted [p:912097970] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote>Doesn't matter. We cannot allow our country to enact Federal laws that demand the murder of children. Let them go elsewhere and be judged by god for their sin.</quote> Nobody cares what your magic sky monster thinks.</quote> The supreme court does :)</quote> Which is pretty fucked yeah Also Its a violation of GOD and JESUS Ok so lets help these kids when theyre out of the womb NO. Bunch of FREELOADING infants! Also Want to lower abortion rates? Maybe actually teach safe sex practices in abstinence-only states, which, shockingly, are comprised of mostly bible thumpers yet have the highest teen pregnancy rates.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
furb 11/09/18 7:52:45 AM #89:	If Poll Taxes and reading tests existed. People would just go to other states to vote. --- You know how fads are. Today it's brains, tomorrow, pierced tongues. Then the next day, pierced brains. -Jane Lane <cite>furb posted [p:912097996] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote>If Poll Taxes and reading tests existed. People would just go to other states to vote.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaBreakfast 11/09/18 7:55:00 AM #90:	It is still empirically bad that people be forced into going to other states and incurring additional expense to access abortion services --- https://imgur.com/nGZeEqw Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:912098056] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote>It is still empirically bad that people be forced into going to other states and incurring additional expense to access abortion services</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 11/09/18 8:08:17 AM #91:	iClockwork posted... Dragonblade01 posted... It's more moral to allow abortions. Killing children because having them is inconvenient isn't moral. Forcing someone to offer their body to someone else against their will isn't moral. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:912098393] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>It's more moral to allow abortions. </quote> Killing children because having them is inconvenient isn't moral.</quote> Forcing someone to offer their body to someone else against their will isn't moral.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 11/09/18 9:11:35 AM #92:	Genocet_10-325 posted... MorbidFaithless posted... Middle hope posted... If it does, will more women be smart about sex and hop on the pill or make their men wear condoms? Yes because as we all know, it's often the women who insist on not using condoms. Men never play a role in birth control. My ex of three years hated condoms and couldn't use birth control due to a medical condition, as a result I got her pregnant 3 times during that relationship. Thankfully she hates children and got 3 abortions. Pullout game not strong? --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 25408 losses. <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:912100169] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MorbidFaithless posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Middle hope posted...</cite> <quote>If it does, will more women be smart about sex and hop on the pill or make their men wear condoms?</quote> Yes because as we all know, it's often the women who insist on not using condoms. Men never play a role in birth control.</quote> My ex of three years hated condoms and couldn't use birth control due to a medical condition, as a result I got her pregnant 3 times during that relationship. Thankfully she hates children and got 3 abortions.</quote> Pullout game not strong?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 11/09/18 9:12:21 AM #93:	Dyinglegacy posted... Genocet_10-325 posted... MorbidFaithless posted... Middle hope posted... If it does, will more women be smart about sex and hop on the pill or make their men wear condoms? Yes because as we all know, it's often the women who insist on not using condoms. Men never play a role in birth control. My ex of three years hated condoms and couldn't use birth control due to a medical condition, as a result I got her pregnant 3 times during that relationship. Thankfully she hates children and got 3 abortions. Pullout game not strong? Its just a story he made up to troll about abortions. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:912100194] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Genocet_10-325 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MorbidFaithless posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Middle hope posted...</cite> <quote>If it does, will more women be smart about sex and hop on the pill or make their men wear condoms?</quote> Yes because as we all know, it's often the women who insist on not using condoms. Men never play a role in birth control.</quote> My ex of three years hated condoms and couldn't use birth control due to a medical condition, as a result I got her pregnant 3 times during that relationship. Thankfully she hates children and got 3 abortions.</quote> Pullout game not strong?</quote> Its just a story he made up to troll about abortions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 11/09/18 9:18:07 AM #94:	I get it, if it's true. I don't like condoms, and birth control has negative affects on my wife, but I pulled out and just sprayed on her belly. We didn't get pregnant until we were ready. I can't understand pride in abortions, tho. It feels, to me, that people who are so nonchalant about it are just a little bit morally bankrupt. But what the hell do I know? Not much, I guess. --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 25408 losses. <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:912100366] in If Roe v W... [t:77183514]...</cite> <quote>I get it, if it's true. I don't like condoms, and birth control has negative affects on my wife, but I pulled out and just sprayed on her belly. We didn't get pregnant until we were ready. I can't understand pride in abortions, tho. It feels, to me, that people who are so nonchalant about it are just a little bit morally bankrupt. But what the hell do I know? Not much, I guess.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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