Poll of the Day > Bigotry expressed through video games is still bigotry.

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LinkPizza 11/10/18 11:19:52 AM #52:	ComradeSeraphim posted... Revelation34 posted... ComradeSeraphim posted... I take it you haven't heard about the recent controversy with a prominent YouTuber getting banned (and then later unbanned) for killing feminist NPCs in RDR2. Prove that they would actually do that in real life then. That's not the point. Even if they wouldn't do it in real life, the fact that they expressed such bigotry in a game proves they have bigotted viewpoints, and that's the problem. No it doesnt. He was probably just doing it to be funny for his viewers. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:912158693] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote>I take it you haven't heard about the recent controversy with a prominent YouTuber getting banned (and then later unbanned) for killing feminist NPCs in RDR2.</quote> Prove that they would actually do that in real life then.</quote> That's not the point. Even if they wouldn't do it in real life, the fact that they expressed such bigotry in a game proves they have bigotted viewpoints, and that's the problem.</quote> No it doesnt. He was probably just doing it to be funny for his viewers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 11/10/18 11:20:02 AM #53:	ComradeSeraphim posted... BlackScythe0 posted... Are you trying to argue that the people who made red dead redemption 2 are misogynists because of what a player did in their game? No, I'm saying that the player is a misogynist. There were people who tried to defend his actions on the grounds that "it's just a game." What did it say about me when after beating morrowwind I decided to go around and kill all the guards and townspeople? <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:912158701] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>Are you trying to argue that the people who made red dead redemption 2 are misogynists because of what a player did in their game?</quote> No, I'm saying that the player is a misogynist. There were people who tried to defend his actions on the grounds that "it's just a game."</quote> What did it say about me when after beating morrowwind I decided to go around and kill all the guards and townspeople?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 11:22:15 AM #54:	LinkPizza posted... ComradeSeraphim posted... Stop being dense, both of you. If he expressed those opinions, that means he has those views. The fact that he chose a video game as his medium of expression doesn't change that. No it doesnt. Or do you have proof? You want me to prove that expressions of bigotry are indicitave of bigotted views? Really? --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912158801] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote>Stop being dense, both of you. If he expressed those opinions, that means he has those views. The fact that he chose a video game as his medium of expression doesn't change that.</quote> No it doesnt. Or do you have proof?</quote> You want me to prove that expressions of bigotry are indicitave of bigotted views? Really?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/10/18 11:23:09 AM #55:	ComradeSeraphim posted... LinkPizza posted... ComradeSeraphim posted... Stop being dense, both of you. If he expressed those opinions, that means he has those views. The fact that he chose a video game as his medium of expression doesn't change that. No it doesnt. Or do you have proof? You want me to prove that expressions of bigotry are indicitave of bigotted views? Really? I want you to prove he has those views. Youre just assuming he does because of something he did in a video game. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:912158842] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote>Stop being dense, both of you. If he expressed those opinions, that means he has those views. The fact that he chose a video game as his medium of expression doesn't change that.</quote> No it doesnt. Or do you have proof?</quote> You want me to prove that expressions of bigotry are indicitave of bigotted views? Really?</quote> I want you to prove he has those views. Youre just assuming he does because of something he did in a video game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 11:23:20 AM #56:	BlackScythe0 posted... What did it say about me when after beating morrowwind I decided to go around and kill all the guards and townspeople? Nothing, because there's no political statement to be drawn from that. --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912158850] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>What did it say about me when after beating morrowwind I decided to go around and kill all the guards and townspeople?</quote> Nothing, because there's no political statement to be drawn from that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanglyKhan 11/10/18 11:25:11 AM #57:	ComradeSeraphim posted... BlackScythe0 posted... What did it say about me when after beating morrowwind I decided to go around and kill all the guards and townspeople? Nothing, because there's no political statement to be drawn from that. Except bigotry and political statements aren't mutually exclusive items. This also now means that you possibly believe some lives to have more importance than others. --- Now Playing: KHII, The Binding of Isaac, MHGU SFV: Ed \| Kolin SCVI: Groh \| Mitsurugi <cite>GanglyKhan posted [p:912158938] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>What did it say about me when after beating morrowwind I decided to go around and kill all the guards and townspeople?</quote> Nothing, because there's no political statement to be drawn from that.</quote> Except bigotry and political statements aren't mutually exclusive items. This also now means that you possibly believe some lives to have more importance than others.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 11:26:14 AM #58:	LinkPizza posted... I want you to prove he has those views. Youre just assuming he does because of something he did in a video game. Uh... His actions in the game are the proof. A person who supported equal rights wouldn't have made such videos. --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912158993] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>I want you to prove he has those views. Youre just assuming he does because of something he did in a video game.</quote> Uh... His actions in the game are the proof. A person who supported equal rights wouldn't have made such videos.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 11:27:56 AM #59:	GanglyKhan posted... Except bigotry and political statements aren't mutually exclusive items. This also now means that you possibly believe some lives to have more importance than others. I never said they were mutually exclusive, and no it doesn't. --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912159066] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>GanglyKhan posted...</cite> <quote>Except bigotry and political statements aren't mutually exclusive items. This also now means that you possibly believe some lives to have more importance than others.</quote> I never said they were mutually exclusive, and no it doesn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanglyKhan 11/10/18 11:29:01 AM #60:	ComradeSeraphim posted... LinkPizza posted... I want you to prove he has those views. Youre just assuming he does because of something he did in a video game. Uh... His actions in the game are the proof. A person who supported equal rights wouldn't have made such videos. So is it that he made a video showcasing it or that he killed the character to begin with? Or something else? Because those are two entirely different things. If I end up having to do something that one could view as being bigoted, but only for the sake of say, getting a trophy, or unlocking a new ending, is that still bigoted? Am I to suspend my want for playing the game fully because of that? --- Now Playing: Tetris Effect, Undertale, A Hat in Time SFV: Ed \| Kolin SCVI: Groh \| Taki <cite>GanglyKhan posted [p:912159116] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>I want you to prove he has those views. Youre just assuming he does because of something he did in a video game.</quote> Uh... His actions in the game are the proof. A person who supported equal rights wouldn't have made such videos.</quote> So is it that he made a video showcasing it or that he killed the character to begin with? Or something else? Because those are two entirely different things. If I end up having to do something that one could view as being bigoted, but only for the sake of say, getting a trophy, or unlocking a new ending, is that still bigoted? Am I to suspend my want for playing the game fully because of that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/10/18 11:29:44 AM #61:	ComradeSeraphim posted... LinkPizza posted... I want you to prove he has those views. Youre just assuming he does because of something he did in a video game. Uh... His actions in the game are the proof. A person who supported equal rights wouldn't have made such videos. Wrong. People just do whatever gets them more views on their videos. And they know their viewers better than anyone else. And what their viewers would find funny. What you do in a video game doesnt reflect how you would act in the real world. Youre just assuming to know other people or how they think because of a video game. And that in itself is wrong. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:912159146] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>I want you to prove he has those views. Youre just assuming he does because of something he did in a video game.</quote> Uh... His actions in the game are the proof. A person who supported equal rights wouldn't have made such videos.</quote> Wrong. People just do whatever gets them more views on their videos. And they know their viewers better than anyone else. And what their viewers would find funny. What you do in a video game doesnt reflect how you would act in the real world. Youre just assuming to know other people or how they think because of a video game. And that in itself is wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanglyKhan 11/10/18 11:31:24 AM #62:	ComradeSeraphim posted... I never said they were mutually exclusive, and no it doesn't. And I never said you had said that either. Please address the argument. Why is it okay to kill civilians and guards in a game but not a feminist? --- Now Playing: Tetris Effect, Undertale, A Hat in Time SFV: Ed \| Kolin SCVI: Groh \| Taki <cite>GanglyKhan posted [p:912159205] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote>I never said they were mutually exclusive, and no it doesn't.</quote> And I never said you had said that either. Please address the argument. Why is it okay to kill civilians and guards in a game but not a feminist?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 11:36:50 AM #63:	GanglyKhan posted... So is it that he made a video showcasing it or that he killed the character to begin with? Or something else? Because those are two entirely different things. If I end up having to do something that one could view as being bigoted, but only for the sake of say, getting a trophy, or unlocking a new ending, is that still bigoted? Am I to suspend my want for playing the game fully because of that? It's the fact that he killed the character for no other reason than because the character expressed feminist viewpoints. If he had done the same thing but not uploaded the video, he still would have been a sexist bigot, but nobody would have known about it. And if you have to commit bigotted actions to unlock content in the game (which isn't the case here), then the responsibility for the bigotry there would fall on the developer rather than the player. --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912159416] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>GanglyKhan posted...</cite> <quote>So is it that he made a video showcasing it or that he killed the character to begin with? Or something else? Because those are two entirely different things. If I end up having to do something that one could view as being bigoted, but only for the sake of say, getting a trophy, or unlocking a new ending, is that still bigoted? Am I to suspend my want for playing the game fully because of that?</quote> It's the fact that he killed the character for no other reason than because the character expressed feminist viewpoints. If he had done the same thing but not uploaded the video, he still would have been a sexist bigot, but nobody would have known about it. And if you have to commit bigotted actions to unlock content in the game (which isn't the case here), then the responsibility for the bigotry there would fall on the developer rather than the player.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanglyKhan 11/10/18 11:38:55 AM #64:	ComradeSeraphim posted... It's the fact that he killed the character for no other reason than because the character expressed feminist viewpoints. If he had done the same thing but not uploaded the video, he still would have been a sexist bigot, but nobody would have known about it. While I'm undecided on how I feel about the person in question, I have to say that I see your point now after a few clarifications, so thanks for taking the time to do that. I feel that you've made a good point with that post. ComradeSeraphim posted... And if you have to commit bigotted actions to unlock content in the game (which isn't the case here), then the responsibility for the bigotry there would fall on the developer rather than the player. But this part I'm not really tracking on. Mostly because that then limits how people are allowed to play a game and I don't think devs should be taking away options, regardless of how people feel about them, for the sake of trying to avoid potential controversy. I think you have to look at the motive behind it. Having a first wave feminist in the late 19th century makes sense here. It's also a game where you're given the option to do what you will with someone's life with a system in place to tell you that you're on the wrong side of the law. I find that to be different from a piece of media where a character would explicitly state "women are awful, they deserve to die because of how they think" and then kills them. You're (general) given the option and the justification for why you (also general) did it. --- Now Playing: Tetris Effect, Undertale, A Hat in Time SFV: Ed \| Kolin SCVI: Groh \| Taki <cite>GanglyKhan posted [p:912159511] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote>It's the fact that he killed the character for no other reason than because the character expressed feminist viewpoints. If he had done the same thing but not uploaded the video, he still would have been a sexist bigot, but nobody would have known about it.</quote> While I'm undecided on how I feel about the person in question, I have to say that I see your point now after a few clarifications, so thanks for taking the time to do that. I feel that you've made a good point with that post. <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote>And if you have to commit bigotted actions to unlock content in the game (which isn't the case here), then the responsibility for the bigotry there would fall on the developer rather than the player. </quote> But this part I'm not really tracking on. Mostly because that then limits how people are allowed to play a game and I don't think devs should be taking away options, regardless of how people feel about them, for the sake of trying to avoid potential controversy. I think you have to look at the motive behind it. Having a first wave feminist in the late 19th century makes sense here. It's also a game where you're given the option to do what you will with someone's life with a system in place to tell you that you're on the wrong side of the law. I find that to be different from a piece of media where a character would explicitly state "women are awful, they deserve to die because of how they think" and then kills them. You're (general) given the option and the justification for why you (also general) did it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 11:41:56 AM #65:	GanglyKhan posted... Why is it okay to kill civilians and guards in a game but not a feminist? It's not that he killed a feminist NPC that's the issue. The issue is that he killed the NPC because she was feminist, which means he was making a political statement against feminism, and that's a no-go. --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912159640] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>GanglyKhan posted...</cite> <quote>Why is it okay to kill civilians and guards in a game but not a feminist?</quote> It's not that he killed a feminist NPC that's the issue. The issue is that he killed the NPC because she was feminist, which means he was making a political statement against feminism, and that's a no-go.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/10/18 11:54:53 AM #66:	So, anyone who unlocked the Dastardly Trophy is RDR is sexist, apparently... Also, why do you keep trying to make this political? --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:912160211] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote>So, anyone who unlocked the Dastardly Trophy is RDR is sexist, apparently... Also, why do you keep trying to make this political?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 11:57:57 AM #67:	LinkPizza posted... Wrong. People just do whatever gets them more views on their videos. And they know their viewers better than anyone else. And what their viewers would find funny. What you do in a video game doesnt reflect how you would act in the real world. Youre just assuming to know other people or how they think because of a video game. And that in itself is wrong. It might not necessarily correlate directly to his behavior in the real world, but it's still indicative of his mindset. In other words, I don't believe this YouTuber would ever go out and actually kill feminists in real life simply because he kept killing them in a video game, but the fact that he did it the video game proves that he is opposed to the feminist viewpoint, and opposition to equal rights is inherently problematic. The fact that there are other sexist bigots online who find such things to be funny is no excuse. --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912160338] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Wrong. People just do whatever gets them more views on their videos. And they know their viewers better than anyone else. And what their viewers would find funny. What you do in a video game doesnt reflect how you would act in the real world. Youre just assuming to know other people or how they think because of a video game. And that in itself is wrong.</quote> It might not necessarily correlate directly to his behavior in the real world, but it's still indicative of his mindset. In other words, I don't believe this YouTuber would ever go out and actually kill feminists in real life simply because he kept killing them in a video game, but the fact that he did it the video game proves that he is opposed to the feminist viewpoint, and opposition to equal rights is inherently problematic. The fact that there are other sexist bigots online who find such things to be funny is no excuse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 12:05:20 PM #68:	LinkPizza posted... So, anyone who unlocked the Dastardly Trophy is RDR is sexist, apparently... Also, why do you keep trying to make this political? That achievement doesn't specify a feminist. It just says any woman. It's clearly just an homage to those old-time black and white short films, with no political baggage attached. And I'm not making it political. It was already political from the start. The YouTuber who created the series of videos made a political statement by attacking NPCs for their political viewpoints. --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912160647] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>So, anyone who unlocked the Dastardly Trophy is RDR is sexist, apparently... Also, why do you keep trying to make this political?</quote> That achievement doesn't specify a feminist. It just says any woman. It's clearly just an homage to those old-time black and white short films, with no political baggage attached. And I'm not making it political. It was already political from the start. The YouTuber who created the series of videos made a political statement by attacking NPCs for their political viewpoints.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/10/18 12:05:49 PM #69:	ComradeSeraphim posted... LinkPizza posted... Wrong. People just do whatever gets them more views on their videos. And they know their viewers better than anyone else. And what their viewers would find funny. What you do in a video game doesnt reflect how you would act in the real world. Youre just assuming to know other people or how they think because of a video game. And that in itself is wrong. It might not necessarily correlate directly to his behavior in the real world, but it's still indicative of his mindset. In other words, I don't believe this YouTuber would ever go out and actually kill feminists in real life simply because he kept killing them in a video game, but the fact that he did it the video game proves that he is opposed to the feminist viewpoint, and opposition to equal rights is inherently problematic. The fact that there are other sexist bigots online who find such things to be funny is no excuse. I guess well have to agree to disagree. I separate video games from the real world and wont label this guy as something because of what he does in a video game. If thats how you want to label people, go right ahead. I would rather get to know a person in reality first. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:912160673] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Wrong. People just do whatever gets them more views on their videos. And they know their viewers better than anyone else. And what their viewers would find funny. What you do in a video game doesnt reflect how you would act in the real world. Youre just assuming to know other people or how they think because of a video game. And that in itself is wrong.</quote> It might not necessarily correlate directly to his behavior in the real world, but it's still indicative of his mindset. In other words, I don't believe this YouTuber would ever go out and actually kill feminists in real life simply because he kept killing them in a video game, but the fact that he did it the video game proves that he is opposed to the feminist viewpoint, and opposition to equal rights is inherently problematic. The fact that there are other sexist bigots online who find such things to be funny is no excuse.</quote> I guess well have to agree to disagree. I separate video games from the real world and wont label this guy as something because of what he does in a video game. If thats how you want to label people, go right ahead. I would rather get to know a person in reality first.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/10/18 12:07:20 PM #70:	ComradeSeraphim posted... LinkPizza posted... So, anyone who unlocked the Dastardly Trophy is RDR is sexist, apparently... Also, why do you keep trying to make this political? That achievement doesn't specify a feminist. It just says any woman. It's clearly just an homage to those old-time black and white short films, with no political baggage attached. And I'm not making it political. It was already political from the start. The YouTuber who created the series of videos made a political statement by attacking NPCs for their political viewpoints. He didnt make it political by attacking them. You made it political by assuming he was making a political statement. And it still specifies killing any woman. Which should mean theyre sexist in your eyes, according to what youre saying... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:912160735] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>So, anyone who unlocked the Dastardly Trophy is RDR is sexist, apparently... Also, why do you keep trying to make this political?</quote> That achievement doesn't specify a feminist. It just says any woman. It's clearly just an homage to those old-time black and white short films, with no political baggage attached. And I'm not making it political. It was already political from the start. The YouTuber who created the series of videos made a political statement by attacking NPCs for their political viewpoints.</quote> He didnt make it political by attacking them. You made it political by assuming he was making a political statement. And it still specifies killing any woman. Which should mean theyre sexist in your eyes, according to what youre saying...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 11/10/18 12:09:50 PM #71:	ComradeSeraphim posted... BlackScythe0 posted... What did it say about me when after beating morrowwind I decided to go around and kill all the guards and townspeople? Nothing, because there's no political statement to be drawn from that. Then what could be drawn from that youtube link you gave that also shows dude killing the KKK? <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:912160846] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>What did it say about me when after beating morrowwind I decided to go around and kill all the guards and townspeople?</quote> Nothing, because there's no political statement to be drawn from that.</quote> Then what could be drawn from that youtube link you gave that also shows dude killing the KKK?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeetCheet 11/10/18 12:11:01 PM #72:	Who gives a shit about non-issues like this when we have much much more pressing issues like global warming that threatens our very existence. Do you want to survive? I sure as hell want to and I assume you want as well. I mean, what's more important: our planet(and our own survival) or shit some guy did in a videogame? What should we prioritize on, in your opinion? --- https://imgur.com/eQrRxik https://imgur.com/NC8itow <cite>LeetCheet posted [p:912160886] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote>Who gives a shit about non-issues like this when we have much much more pressing issues like global warming that threatens our very existence. Do you want to survive? I sure as hell want to and I assume you want as well. I mean, what's more important: our planet(and our own survival) or shit some guy did in a videogame? What should we prioritize on, in your opinion?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 12:11:17 PM #73:	LinkPizza posted... He didnt make it political by attacking them. You made it political by assuming he was making a political statement. Nope. He was clearly making a political statement. It's not hard to see. Stop being dense. --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912160895] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>He didnt make it political by attacking them. You made it political by assuming he was making a political statement.</quote> Nope. He was clearly making a political statement. It's not hard to see. Stop being dense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 12:13:02 PM #74:	BlackScythe0 posted... Then what could be drawn from that youtube link you gave that also shows dude killing the KKK? That's also a political statement, but it's a good one. ;) --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912160964] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>Then what could be drawn from that youtube link you gave that also shows dude killing the KKK?</quote> That's also a political statement, but it's a good one. ;)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/10/18 12:13:38 PM #75:	ComradeSeraphim posted... LinkPizza posted... He didnt make it political by attacking them. You made it political by assuming he was making a political statement. Nope. He was clearly making a political statement. It's not hard to see. Stop being dense. Youre being dense by basing a persons belief on what they do in a video game. Also, dont get me wrong about this. Im not saying hes not bigoted. Im saying that Im not going to based whether he is or isnt on a video game. Thats what Im saying. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:912160997] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>He didnt make it political by attacking them. You made it political by assuming he was making a political statement.</quote> Nope. He was clearly making a political statement. It's not hard to see. Stop being dense.</quote> Youre being dense by basing a persons belief on what they do in a video game. Also, dont get me wrong about this. Im not saying hes not bigoted. Im saying that Im not going to based whether he is or isnt on a video game. Thats what Im saying.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 11/10/18 12:14:01 PM #76:	ComradeSeraphim posted... BlackScythe0 posted... Then what could be drawn from that youtube link you gave that also shows dude killing the KKK? That's also a political statement, but it's a good one. ;) Is it not bigotry against white people? <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:912161017] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>Then what could be drawn from that youtube link you gave that also shows dude killing the KKK?</quote> That's also a political statement, but it's a good one. ;)</quote> Is it not bigotry against white people?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 12:16:21 PM #77:	BlackScythe0 posted... Is it not bigotry against white people? Nope, because he didn't kill those NPCs for being white, he killed them for being members of the KKK. --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912161113] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>Is it not bigotry against white people?</quote> Nope, because he didn't kill those NPCs for being white, he killed them for being members of the KKK.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 12:17:28 PM #78:	LeetCheet posted... Who gives a shit about non-issues like this when we have much much more pressing issues like global warming that threatens our very existence. Do you want to survive? I sure as hell want to and I assume you want as well. I mean, what's more important: our planet(and our own survival) or shit some guy did in a videogame? What should we prioritize on, in your opinion? We can do both. --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912161159] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>LeetCheet posted...</cite> <quote>Who gives a shit about non-issues like this when we have much much more pressing issues like global warming that threatens our very existence. Do you want to survive? I sure as hell want to and I assume you want as well. I mean, what's more important: our planet(and our own survival) or shit some guy did in a videogame? What should we prioritize on, in your opinion?</quote> We can do both.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 11/10/18 12:20:31 PM #79:	ComradeSeraphim posted... Krazy_Kirby posted... are people who kill in video games also murderers? are people who steal in video games thiefs? Obviously not. Those things are completely different from being sexist in a video game. ok, so you are a troll. thanks for confirming it --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:912161293] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Krazy_Kirby posted...</cite> <quote>are people who kill in video games also murderers? are people who steal in video games thiefs?</quote> Obviously not. Those things are completely different from being sexist in a video game.</quote> ok, so you are a troll. thanks for confirming it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanglyKhan 11/10/18 12:31:36 PM #80:	LeetCheet posted... Who gives a shit about non-issues like this when we have much much more pressing issues like global warming that threatens our very existence. Do you want to survive? I sure as hell want to and I assume you want as well. I mean, what's more important: our planet(and our own survival) or shit some guy did in a videogame? What should we prioritize on, in your opinion? That was incredibly sobering and humbling. Being dead honest when I say that. --- Now Playing: Tetris Effect, Undertale, A Hat in Time SFV: Ed \| Kolin SCVI: Groh \| Taki <cite>GanglyKhan posted [p:912161730] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>LeetCheet posted...</cite> <quote>Who gives a shit about non-issues like this when we have much much more pressing issues like global warming that threatens our very existence. Do you want to survive? I sure as hell want to and I assume you want as well. I mean, what's more important: our planet(and our own survival) or shit some guy did in a videogame? What should we prioritize on, in your opinion?</quote> That was incredibly sobering and humbling. Being dead honest when I say that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 11/10/18 12:50:53 PM #81:	ComradeSeraphim posted... Stop being dense, both of you. If he expressed those opinions, that means he has those views. The fact that he chose a video game as his medium of expression doesn't change that. Oh the irony. ComradeSeraphim posted... That's not the point. Even if they wouldn't do it in real life, the fact that they expressed such bigotry in a game proves they have bigotted viewpoints, and that's the problem. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIgfiSzCy1o" data-time=" ComradeSeraphim posted... Uh... His actions in the game are the proof. A person who supported equal rights wouldn't have made such videos. Killing a prostitute in GTA to get your money back means you will do it in real life. GanglyKhan posted... While I'm undecided on how I feel about the person in question, I have to say that I see your point now after a few clarifications, so thanks for taking the time to do that. I feel that you've made a good point with that post. I refuse to believe you actually think he has a good point. ComradeSeraphim posted... I don't believe this YouTuber would ever go out and actually kill feminists in real life simply because he kept killing them in a video game Well that would be hard to do since real feminists are hard to find now. LeetCheet posted... Who gives a shit about non-issues like this when we have much much more pressing issues like global warming that threatens our very existence. Do you want to survive? I sure as hell want to and I assume you want as well. I mean, what's more important: our planet(and our own survival) or shit some guy did in a videogame? What should we prioritize on, in your opinion? Did you know that a person can't support animal rights while there are starving children in Africa? --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:912162551] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote>Stop being dense, both of you. If he expressed those opinions, that means he has those views. The fact that he chose a video game as his medium of expression doesn't change that.</quote> Oh the irony. <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote>That's not the point. Even if they wouldn't do it in real life, the fact that they expressed such bigotry in a game proves they have bigotted viewpoints, and that's the problem.</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIgfiSzCy1o" data-time=" <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote>Uh... His actions in the game are the proof. A person who supported equal rights wouldn't have made such videos.</quote> Killing a prostitute in GTA to get your money back means you will do it in real life. <cite>GanglyKhan posted...</cite> <quote> While I'm undecided on how I feel about the person in question, I have to say that I see your point now after a few clarifications, so thanks for taking the time to do that. I feel that you've made a good point with that post.</quote> I refuse to believe you actually think he has a good point. <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote>I don't believe this YouTuber would ever go out and actually kill feminists in real life simply because he kept killing them in a video game</quote> Well that would be hard to do since real feminists are hard to find now. <cite>LeetCheet posted...</cite> <quote>Who gives a shit about non-issues like this when we have much much more pressing issues like global warming that threatens our very existence. Do you want to survive? I sure as hell want to and I assume you want as well. I mean, what's more important: our planet(and our own survival) or shit some guy did in a videogame? What should we prioritize on, in your opinion?</quote> Did you know that a person can't support animal rights while there are starving children in Africa?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unbridled9 11/10/18 3:09:43 PM #82:	Why is this still going? TC can't distinguish between reality and fantasy. I doubt he's suddenly going to be able to do so now no matter how well you explain it. --- I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage <cite>Unbridled9 posted [p:912168991] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote>Why is this still going? TC can't distinguish between reality and fantasy. I doubt he's suddenly going to be able to do so now no matter how well you explain it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeetCheet 11/10/18 4:35:22 PM #83:	ComradeSeraphim posted... LeetCheet posted... Who gives a shit about non-issues like this when we have much much more pressing issues like global warming that threatens our very existence. Do you want to survive? I sure as hell want to and I assume you want as well. I mean, what's more important: our planet(and our own survival) or shit some guy did in a videogame? What should we prioritize on, in your opinion? We can do both. I just wonder why we aren't focusing more time and resources on saving our planet instead of all this bickering about certain content in videogames. I mean, what do we even accomplish in the long run by arguing about shit such as one of Mr Game & Watch's attacks in Super Smash Bros Ultimate supposedly being racist? The worst part is global warming is unpreventable at this point, all we can do now is damage-control. Most people seem to fail to realize this fact, that's why so many people still pollute and don't even bother doing simple stuff like throwing crap in the trash. --- https://imgur.com/eQrRxik https://imgur.com/NC8itow <cite>LeetCheet posted [p:912172771] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LeetCheet posted...</cite> <quote> Who gives a shit about non-issues like this when we have much much more pressing issues like global warming that threatens our very existence. Do you want to survive? I sure as hell want to and I assume you want as well. I mean, what's more important: our planet(and our own survival) or shit some guy did in a videogame? What should we prioritize on, in your opinion?</quote> We can do both.</quote> I just wonder why we aren't focusing more time and resources on saving our planet instead of all this bickering about certain content in videogames. I mean, what do we even accomplish in the long run by arguing about shit such as one of Mr Game & Watch's attacks in Super Smash Bros Ultimate supposedly being racist? The worst part is global warming is unpreventable at this point, all we can do now is damage-control. Most people seem to fail to realize this fact, that's why so many people still pollute and don't even bother doing simple stuff like throwing crap in the trash.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 11/10/18 4:59:07 PM #84:	Everyone's seen me posting as a pretty hard railing "social justice warrior" or whatever, but when it comes to this, I'll compare books to video games, or comedy. Offensive examples of all of these all exist, but it depends on the nuance of delivery within the plot and morals of the novel/book/games at hand, for me. Are we talking about a game like Red Dead Redemption 2 in particular? I think it's fine to have a game like it. It'd be cool if there was even more representation within video games, which is worth fighting for, and as of such, worth criticizing current games for. That's the way it is, so I think discussing things is fine, but banning games with violent/sexist/racist content isn't that great. That being said, I agree with that school shooting video game not being released. I do think that games should perhaps be made to be held more accountable. A bit more anti-war rhetoric in CoD games would be nice :p --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:912173981] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote>Everyone's seen me posting as a pretty hard railing "social justice warrior" or whatever, but when it comes to this, I'll compare books to video games, or comedy. Offensive examples of all of these all exist, but it depends on the nuance of delivery within the plot and morals of the novel/book/games at hand, for me. Are we talking about a game like Red Dead Redemption 2 in particular? I think it's fine to have a game like it. It'd be cool if there was even more representation within video games, which is worth fighting for, and as of such, worth criticizing current games for. That's the way it is, so I think discussing things is fine, but banning games with violent/sexist/racist content isn't that great. That being said, I agree with that school shooting video game not being released. I do think that games should perhaps be made to be held more accountable. A bit more anti-war rhetoric in CoD games would be nice :p</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 11/10/18 5:01:19 PM #85:	It's like how there are anti-semetic comments in the first few chapters of LA noire. I'm not anti-semetic, but I'm sure lots of movies like Goodfellas contain similar material. It's a fictional story based on reality. I do agree with more representation in movies and games though. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:912174096] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote>It's like how there are anti-semetic comments in the first few chapters of LA noire. I'm not anti-semetic, but I'm sure lots of movies like Goodfellas contain similar material. It's a fictional story based on reality. I do agree with more representation in movies and games though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 11/10/18 5:01:59 PM #86:	But yes, if someone films themselves performing bigoted acts within a video games reveling in it, then yes, they are a bigoted person, I'd assume. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:912174130] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote>But yes, if someone films themselves performing bigoted acts within a video games reveling in it, then yes, they are a bigoted person, I'd assume.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blorfenburger 11/10/18 6:01:09 PM #87:	I am a homosexual nazi that is pro choice and I hate womens suffrage --- I use inverted controls. Also I hate fandoms. I'm the Assman. Come on boy you know what I'm all about. <cite>Blorfenburger posted [p:912177358] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote>I am a homosexual nazi that is pro choice and I hate womens suffrage</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 11/10/18 6:12:21 PM #88:	Bigotry "expressed" in video games is still bigotry??? "Expressed" is the key word here, and it can be vague as hell. I can't think of a single video game that actually PROMOTES racism in any way. They just might have some racist aspects, but those are usually part of the story. Orcs hating elves. Blacks hating whites. Nazis hating everyone. Mushrooms hating turtles. If you are playing a video game with a lot of freedom of movement and decision-making....and YOU, as the player, choose to only kill minority characters......YOU, as a person, probably have some racist tendencies. But even that is still reaching, because maybe you are just doing it for dark, sarcastic, edgy humor to make your friends in the room gasp. You would never actually (in real life) behave in such a way. Why is everyone so god damned obsessed with identity politics in 2018 anyway??? If you aren't racist, you'll have a legion of Liberals knocking on your door to try and convince you otherwise. "Oh, trust me boy! YOU RACIST!!!! You just don't know it yet! Allow me to educate you!!!!" Christ. And every video game or movie you enjoy, they find some way to twist it around and make it all about sexism or racism. People can't enjoy anything. Buncha triggered snowflakes. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:912178023] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote>Bigotry "expressed" in video games is still bigotry??? "Expressed" is the key word here, and it can be vague as hell. I can't think of a single video game that actually PROMOTES racism in any way. They just might have some racist aspects, but those are usually part of the story. Orcs hating elves. Blacks hating whites. Nazis hating everyone. Mushrooms hating turtles. If you are playing a video game with a lot of freedom of movement and decision-making....and YOU, as the player, choose to only kill minority characters......YOU, as a person, probably have some racist tendencies. But even that is still reaching, because maybe you are just doing it for dark, sarcastic, edgy humor to make your friends in the room gasp. You would never actually (in real life) behave in such a way. Why is everyone so god damned obsessed with identity politics in 2018 anyway??? If you aren't racist, you'll have a legion of Liberals knocking on your door to try and convince you otherwise. "Oh, trust me boy! YOU RACIST!!!! You just don't know it yet! Allow me to educate you!!!!" Christ. And every video game or movie you enjoy, they find some way to twist it around and make it all about sexism or racism. People can't enjoy anything. Buncha triggered snowflakes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
reruns_revenge 11/10/18 6:32:59 PM #89:	Blorfenburger posted... I am a homosexual nazi that is pro choice and I hate womens suffrage You're Ernst Rohm? <cite>reruns_revenge posted [p:912179119] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blorfenburger posted...</cite> <quote>I am a homosexual nazi that is pro choice and I hate womens suffrage</quote> You're Ernst Rohm?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dioxxys 11/10/18 8:14:55 PM #90:	@ComradeSeraphim posted... It's the fact that he killed the character for no other reason than because the character expressed feminist viewpoints. If he had done the same thing but not uploaded the video, he still would have been a sexist bigot, but nobody would have known about it. Actually no wrong if you cared more about anything then being wrong then you would know that he disclosed the reason is that he was trying to enjoy peace and quiet and buy something from a vendor at the time and the woman was being annoying and loud <cite>dioxxys posted [p:912184235] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>@ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote>It's the fact that he killed the character for no other reason than because the character expressed feminist viewpoints. If he had done the same thing but not uploaded the video, he still would have been a sexist bigot, but nobody would have known about it.</quote> Actually no wrong if you cared more about anything then being wrong then you would know that he disclosed the reason is that he was trying to enjoy peace and quiet and buy something from a vendor at the time and the woman was being annoying and loud</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/10/18 9:45:59 PM #91:	dioxxys posted... @ComradeSeraphim posted... It's the fact that he killed the character for no other reason than because the character expressed feminist viewpoints. If he had done the same thing but not uploaded the video, he still would have been a sexist bigot, but nobody would have known about it. Actually no wrong if you cared more about anything then being wrong then you would know that he disclosed the reason is that he was trying to enjoy peace and quiet and buy something from a vendor at the time and the woman was being annoying and loud You know, I was wondering about this. I was going to watch the video when I got home, but I was wondering if it was because they were doing something like that... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:912188642] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>dioxxys posted...</cite> <quote><cite>@ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote>It's the fact that he killed the character for no other reason than because the character expressed feminist viewpoints. If he had done the same thing but not uploaded the video, he still would have been a sexist bigot, but nobody would have known about it.</quote> Actually no wrong if you cared more about anything then being wrong then you would know that he disclosed the reason is that he was trying to enjoy peace and quiet and buy something from a vendor at the time and the woman was being annoying and loud</quote> You know, I was wondering about this. I was going to watch the video when I got home, but I was wondering if it was because they were doing something like that...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 10:37:24 PM #92:	Revelation34 posted... Killing a prostitute in GTA to get your money back means you will do it in real life. That's different because there's a mechanical gameplay advantage to doing that: you get your health restored and you get to keep your money. Therefore it can be argued that someone who kills prostitutes after having sex with them in GTA is not attempting to make any kind of political statement, but rather is just trying to maximize their in-game utility. There is no mechanical gamplay advantage to killing feminists in RDR2. In fact, there's actually a disadvantage because killing feminists lowers your honor meter in the game. --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912190895] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>Killing a prostitute in GTA to get your money back means you will do it in real life. </quote> That's different because there's a mechanical gameplay advantage to doing that: you get your health restored and you get to keep your money. Therefore it can be argued that someone who kills prostitutes after having sex with them in GTA is not attempting to make any kind of political statement, but rather is just trying to maximize their in-game utility. There is no mechanical gamplay advantage to killing feminists in RDR2. In fact, there's actually a disadvantage because killing feminists lowers your honor meter in the game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 10:38:49 PM #93:	GreenKnight127 posted... maybe you are just doing it for dark, sarcastic, edgy humor to make your friends in the room gasp. Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and say that's not okay either, and that would still qualify as bigotry. --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912190966] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>maybe you are just doing it for dark, sarcastic, edgy humor to make your friends in the room gasp.</quote>Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and say that's not okay either, and that would still qualify as bigotry.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/10/18 10:43:36 PM #94:	ComradeSeraphim posted... Revelation34 posted... Killing a prostitute in GTA to get your money back means you will do it in real life. That's different because there's a mechanical gameplay advantage to doing that: you get your health restored and you get to keep your money. Therefore it can be argued that someone who kills prostitutes after having sex with them in GTA is not attempting to make any kind of political statement, but rather is just trying to maximize their in-game utility. There is no mechanical gamplay advantage to killing feminists in RDR2. In fact, there's actually a disadvantage because killing feminists lowers your honor meter in the game. But youre assuming. Youre assuming they arent trying to make a political statement. And you're assuming he is. You donf Know for sure. Youre are literally assuming... ComradeSeraphim posted... GreenKnight127 posted... maybe you are just doing it for dark, sarcastic, edgy humor to make your friends in the room gasp. Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and say that's not okay either, and that would still qualify as bigotry. I dont see why. But you apparently somehow think that... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:912191186] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>Killing a prostitute in GTA to get your money back means you will do it in real life. </quote> That's different because there's a mechanical gameplay advantage to doing that: you get your health restored and you get to keep your money. Therefore it can be argued that someone who kills prostitutes after having sex with them in GTA is not attempting to make any kind of political statement, but rather is just trying to maximize their in-game utility. There is no mechanical gamplay advantage to killing feminists in RDR2. In fact, there's actually a disadvantage because killing feminists lowers your honor meter in the game.</quote> But youre assuming. Youre assuming they arent trying to make a political statement. And you're assuming he is. You donf Know for sure. Youre are literally assuming... <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>maybe you are just doing it for dark, sarcastic, edgy humor to make your friends in the room gasp.</quote>Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and say that's not okay either, and that would still qualify as bigotry.</quote> I dont see why. But you apparently somehow think that...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 11:00:35 PM #95:	dioxxys posted... Actually no wrong if you cared more about anything then being wrong then you would know that he disclosed the reason is that he was trying to enjoy peace and quiet and buy something from a vendor at the time and the woman was being annoying and loud That sounds to me like he's just lying to cover his ass after all the public criticism he received. If he was truly just trying to silence an NPC for being loud and obnoxious in his vicinity when he was trying to focus on something else, then he would have just shot the NPC then and there and be done with it. Instead, he goes out of his way to kill the NPCs in very brutal and time-consuming ways that would only inconvenience him even more (throwing them off cliffs, feeding them to alligators, etc.). Also, in some of the videos (yes, there's more than one), he's clearly just running around not doing anything else, and then approaches the feminist NPCs deliberately. In some cases he wasn't even within audible range of the NPC before he approached her and started attacking her, so his claim that the NPCs were just annoying him by creating distracting noise is a load of horseshit. Here's just one example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYHr2FSgwSQ" data-time=" As you can clearly see, there's no way that NPC could have possibly been distracting him from anything. So he's a bigot and a liar. LinkPizza posted... You know, I was wondering about this. I was going to watch the video when I got home, but I was wondering if it was because they were doing something like that... There were actually multiple videos of him killing feminists in the game. It wasn't just one time. See my response to dioxxys above. --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912191952] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>dioxxys posted...</cite> <quote>Actually no wrong if you cared more about anything then being wrong then you would know that he disclosed the reason is that he was trying to enjoy peace and quiet and buy something from a vendor at the time and the woman was being annoying and loud</quote> That sounds to me like he's just lying to cover his ass after all the public criticism he received. If he was truly just trying to silence an NPC for being loud and obnoxious in his vicinity when he was trying to focus on something else, then he would have just shot the NPC then and there and be done with it. Instead, he goes out of his way to kill the NPCs in very brutal and time-consuming ways that would only inconvenience him even more (throwing them off cliffs, feeding them to alligators, etc.). Also, in some of the videos (yes, there's more than one), he's clearly just running around not doing anything else, and then approaches the feminist NPCs deliberately. In some cases he wasn't even within audible range of the NPC before he approached her and started attacking her, so his claim that the NPCs were just annoying him by creating distracting noise is a load of horseshit. Here's just one example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYHr2FSgwSQ" data-time=" As you can clearly see, there's no way that NPC could have possibly been distracting him from anything. So he's a bigot and a liar. <cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>You know, I was wondering about this. I was going to watch the video when I got home, but I was wondering if it was because they were doing something like that...</quote> There were actually multiple videos of him killing feminists in the game. It wasn't just one time. See my response to dioxxys above.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 11:06:48 PM #96:	LinkPizza posted... But youre assuming. Youre assuming they arent trying to make a political statement. And you're assuming he is. You donf Know for sure. Youre are literally assuming... I'm not assuming, I'm using abductive reasoning. It's not hard to do if you understand how formal logic works. --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912192262] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>But youre assuming. Youre assuming they arent trying to make a political statement. And you're assuming he is. You donf Know for sure. Youre are literally assuming...</quote> I'm not assuming, I'm using abductive reasoning. It's not hard to do if you understand how formal logic works.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/10/18 11:19:38 PM #97:	ComradeSeraphim posted... LinkPizza posted... But youre assuming. Youre assuming they arent trying to make a political statement. And you're assuming he is. You donf Know for sure. Youre are literally assuming... I'm not assuming, I'm using abductive reasoning. It's not hard to do if you understand how formal logic works. One part of the definition of abductive reasoning says, This process, unlike deductive reasoning, yields a plausible conclusion but does not positively verify it. So, assuming basically... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:912192867] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>But youre assuming. Youre assuming they arent trying to make a political statement. And you're assuming he is. You donf Know for sure. Youre are literally assuming...</quote> I'm not assuming, I'm using abductive reasoning. It's not hard to do if you understand how formal logic works.</quote> One part of the definition of abductive reasoning says, This process, unlike deductive reasoning, yields a plausible conclusion but does not positively verify it. So, assuming basically...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 11/10/18 11:29:41 PM #98:	Is someone sexist if they beat up a fictional AND virtual NPC female character? The answer is "no". Anyone who honestly thinks it is, has a mental condition. No distinction between reality and fiction, and no understanding towards context or the joys of shock humor. Do you also think people who watch violent/horror movies are all sadists? --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:912193353] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote>Is someone sexist if they beat up a fictional AND virtual NPC female character? The answer is "no". Anyone who honestly thinks it is, has a mental condition. No distinction between reality and fiction, and no understanding towards context or the joys of shock humor. Do you also think people who watch violent/horror movies are all sadists?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 11:39:48 PM #99:	LinkPizza posted... One part of the definition of abductive reasoning says, This process, unlike deductive reasoning, yields a plausible conclusion but does not positively verify it. So, assuming basically... Yeah, technically, but come on. There's more than enough evidence in this case to draw a definitive conclusion. --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912193819] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>One part of the definition of abductive reasoning says, This process, unlike deductive reasoning, yields a plausible conclusion but does not positively verify it. So, assuming basically...</quote> Yeah, technically, but come on. There's more than enough evidence in this case to draw a definitive conclusion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ComradeSeraphim 11/10/18 11:41:27 PM #100:	ReturnOfFa posted... But yes, if someone films themselves performing bigoted acts within video games and reveling in it, then yes, they are a bigoted person, I'd assume. Yes, this topic is primarily about the actions of a player, not a developer. And thank you. At least someone here gets it. --- [Insert witty sig here.] <cite>ComradeSeraphim posted [p:912193913] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ReturnOfFa posted...</cite> <quote>But yes, if someone films themselves performing bigoted acts within video games and reveling in it, then yes, they are a bigoted person, I'd assume.</quote> Yes, this topic is primarily about the actions of a player, not a developer. And thank you. At least someone here gets it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 11/10/18 11:50:51 PM #101:	ComradeSeraphim posted... LinkPizza posted... One part of the definition of abductive reasoning says, This process, unlike deductive reasoning, yields a plausible conclusion but does not positively verify it. So, assuming basically... Yeah, technically, but come on. There's more than enough evidence in this case to draw a definitive conclusion. No there's not. There's you saying he's bigoted with one person agreeing, while everyone else is explaining how reality and video games are different. The evidence is being assumed by you, and we haven't reached a definitive conclusion for either side. But if you think a definitive conclusion has been reached, it would have to be against what you said since it seems like more people are on that side. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:912194329] in Bigotry ex... [t:77188263]...</cite> <quote><cite>ComradeSeraphim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>One part of the definition of abductive reasoning says, This process, unlike deductive reasoning, yields a plausible conclusion but does not positively verify it. So, assuming basically...</quote> Yeah, technically, but come on. There's more than enough evidence in this case to draw a definitive conclusion.</quote> No there's not. There's you saying he's bigoted with one person agreeing, while everyone else is explaining how reality and video games are different. The evidence is being assumed by you, and we haven't reached a definitive conclusion for either side. But if you think a definitive conclusion has been reached, it would have to be against what you said since it seems like more people are on that side.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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