Current Events > Macron calls nationalism a 'betrayal of patriotism'

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Tmaster148
11/11/18 10:35:55 AM
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https://thehill.com/policy/international/416097-macron-during-armistice-day-remarks-nationalism-is-a-betrayal-of

French President Emmanuel Macron tore into nationalism in an apparent jab at President Trump during his Armistice Day remarks in Paris.

Speaking Sunday at the Arc de Triomphe beside Trump and other world leaders, Macron decried nationalism as a betrayal of patriotism.

Patriotism is the exact opposite of nationalism, Macron said. Nationalism is a betrayal of patriotism. By saying our interests first... we erase what a nation holds dearest, what gives it life, what gives it grace, and what is essential: its moral values."

Trump has faced criticism for referring to himself as a nationalist, comments that he doubled down on last week during a press conference.

When asked about his use of the phrase, which often has racist connotations due to the use of white nationalist, Trump said we have to straighten out our country first.

He then criticized the reporter, PBS NewsHours Yamiche Alcindor, saying her question itself was racist.

Macrons comments on Sunday came after the White House canceled Trumps planned visit to a U.S. military cemetery in northern France due to bad weather.

The move drew a steady stream of domestic and international criticism.

Upon landing in Paris days earlier, Trump also knocked Macron in a tweet, calling the French presidents suggestion of a true, European army to defend itself without relying on the U.S. very insulting."

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Bloodychess
11/11/18 10:37:28 AM
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Next he'll argue Genesis > SNES
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hotcegaI
11/11/18 10:38:14 AM
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i would hope every leader is a nationalist otherwise why are they leading the country i they don't put it first
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King_Hellebuyck
11/11/18 10:40:51 AM
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Upon landing in Paris days earlier, Trump also knocked Macron in a tweet, calling the French presidents suggestion of a true, European army to defend itself without relying on the U.S. very insulting."


Trump: the US shouldnt be paying to defend Europe
Also Trump: dont listen to my ideas or else Ill cry
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Coastal_elite
11/11/18 11:06:28 AM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
Upon landing in Paris days earlier, Trump also knocked Macron in a tweet, calling the French presidents suggestion of a true, European army to defend itself without relying on the U.S. very insulting."


Trump: the US shouldnt be paying to defend Europe
Also Trump: dont listen to my ideas or else Ill cry


yeah wtf
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PG_Era
11/11/18 11:10:46 AM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
Upon landing in Paris days earlier, Trump also knocked Macron in a tweet, calling the French presidents suggestion of a true, European army to defend itself without relying on the U.S. very insulting."


Trump: the US shouldnt be paying to defend Europe
Also Trump: dont listen to my ideas or else Ill cry


Why you find this insulting, this is what you wanted dumbass.
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jpenny2
11/11/18 11:11:19 AM
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Bloodychess posted...
Next he'll argue Mega Drive > SNES

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uwnim
11/11/18 11:12:59 AM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...

Trump: the US shouldnt be paying to defend Europe
Also Trump: dont listen to my ideas or else Ill cry

Clearly Europe is supposed to hire us for a nice amount of money so we profit from it. >_____>
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LastTomorrow
11/11/18 11:13:06 AM
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jpenny2 posted...
Bloodychess posted...
Next he'll argue Mega Drive > SNES

He he does seem more of a Sega person
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monkmith
11/11/18 11:15:33 AM
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he should have just gone and asked for the statue of liberty back since trump shits all over what it represents.
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soulunison2
11/11/18 11:16:29 AM
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monkmith posted...
he should have just gone and asked for the statue of liberty back since trump shits all over what it represents.


I imagine trump believes the statue was American made lol
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Tmaster148
11/11/18 11:20:50 AM
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CrimsonRage posted...
hotcegaI posted...
i would hope every leader is a nationalist otherwise why are they leading the country i they don't put it first


last time every leader was a nationalist, two world wars broke out.

how many times must we try nationalism before realising it's a bad idea


Also being a nationalist isn't the only way you can put your country first. There are many ways for an elected official to put the country they are incharge of first that don't involve completely ignoring every shitty thing it does.
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VictimComplex
11/11/18 11:21:43 AM
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Was it @Bio1590 or TC who has the screencap of Southcoast talking about wanting "global nationalism"?
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RoboLaserGandhi
11/11/18 11:22:31 AM
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That makes zero sense and his explanation was just as superfluous.
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Tmaster148
11/11/18 11:23:08 AM
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VictimComplex posted...
Was it @Bio1590 or TC who has the screencap of Southcoast talking about wanting "global nationalism"?


It's me.

https://imgur.com/a7iiAd8
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Solar_Crimson
11/11/18 11:24:08 AM
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CrimsonRage posted...
hotcegaI posted...
i would hope every leader is a nationalist otherwise why are they leading the country i they don't put it first


last time every leader was a nationalist, two world wars broke out.

how many times must we try nationalism before realising it's a bad idea

If current trends are anything to go by, we'll need a few more world wars before they get it in their head.
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VictimComplex
11/11/18 11:25:30 AM
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Tmaster148 posted...
VictimComplex posted...
Was it @Bio1590 or TC who has the screencap of Southcoast talking about wanting "global nationalism"?


It's me.

https://imgur.com/a7iiAd8

I laugh every time I see that, lmao. Truly a mark of someone entirely ignorant of politics and simply drunk on Trump's Kool-aid.
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Kineth
11/11/18 11:28:15 AM
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He's right.
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lesidesi
11/11/18 11:34:18 AM
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Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first. - Charles de Gaulle
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VictimComplex
11/11/18 11:35:07 AM
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Nationalism quotes by people far more intelligent than Donald J. Trump (not exactly a high bar)

Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.


Charles de Gaulle

Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind.


Albert Einstein

Nationalism is a tool increasingly used by leaders to bolster their authority, especially amid difficult economic and political conditions.


Richard N. Haass

Nationalism is a silly cock crowing on his own dunghill.


Richard Aldington

Patriotism can flourish only where racism and nationalism are given no quarter. We should never mistake patriotism for nationalism. A patriot is one who loves his homeland. A nationalist is one who scorns the homelands of others.


Johannes Rau

The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.


Sydney J. Harris
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