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Tmaster148
11/12/18 11:42:29 AM
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https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a24937408/kellyanne-conway-jim-acosta-video-doctored/

Kellyanne Conway admitted to Fox Newss Chris Wallace Sunday that the Jim Acosta video tweeted by White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders was, in fact, doctored. And in doing, so she coined another phrase that, though not as catchy as "alternative facts," is just as Orwellian.

"Thats not altered, thats sped up," said Conway of the video, "They do it all the time in sports to see if theres a first down or a touchdown. I have to disagree with, I think, the overwrought description of this video being doctored."

The interview came in the aftermath of the White Houses suspension of Acosta for "placing his hands" on an intern who was trying to take away his microphone. Suspending a journalists White House credentials is a nearly unprecedented move, one that prompted outrage from reporters and supporters of a free press. To justify the suspension, Huckabee Sanders tweeted a video originally posted to Infowars, one that experts say was both sped up and slowed down to suggest that Acosta made aggressive contact with the aide.

Conway's statement is mind-boggling on a couple of counts. For one, speeding something up almost certainly falls under the definition of altering it. And sports analysts dont usually speed up the action to get a clearer look at itslowing things down tends to offer a more detailed look.

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Mr_Biscuit
11/12/18 11:43:45 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex
11/12/18 11:45:15 AM
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No one cares, and the party of "self defense" pretending to care about brushing away someones arm from grabbing something from their personal space, is the least credibly trolling coming from the Right in recent memory.
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UnfairRepresent
11/12/18 11:45:26 AM
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"It wasn't doctored, we just changed it."
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Tmaster148
11/12/18 11:45:59 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
No one cares, and the party of "self defense" pretending to care about brushing away someones arm from grabbing something from their personal space, is the least credibly trolling coming from the Right in recent memory.


You really got triggered by this didn't you. Cuz that's quite the meltdown.
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11/12/18 11:47:00 AM
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jpenny2
11/12/18 11:47:19 AM
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Trump's mental state isn't altered; it's sped up.
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spudger
11/12/18 11:49:48 AM
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Shes a piece of shit liar
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Tmaster148
11/12/18 11:50:17 AM
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spudger posted...
Shes a piece of shit liar


She only speaks in alternative facts.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
11/12/18 11:50:56 AM
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Sarah cuckabee should be charged with treason for this
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Damn_Underscore
11/12/18 11:52:04 AM
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lol at "just as Orwellian"

I don't know how "Thats not altered, thats sped up" can be read as anything but ignorance. This article is just another example of "TRUMP IS LITERALLY HITLER!!" when even George W. Bush was more dangerous to the American way of life than Trump is.
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Tmaster148
11/12/18 11:54:11 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
lol at "just as Orwellian"

I don't know how "Thats not altered, thats sped up" can be read as anything but ignorance. This article is just another example of "TRUMP IS LITERALLY HITLER!!" when even George W. Bush was more dangerous to the American way of life than Trump is.


Oh look another triggered trump supporter.
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Damn_Underscore
11/12/18 11:55:36 AM
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Tmaster148 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
lol at "just as Orwellian"

I don't know how "Thats not altered, thats sped up" can be read as anything but ignorance. This article is just another example of "TRUMP IS LITERALLY HITLER!!" when even George W. Bush was more dangerous to the American way of life than Trump is.


Oh look another triggered trump supporter.


Care to refute anything I said or do you just have more generalization to throw out?
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Tmaster148
11/12/18 11:56:16 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
lol at "just as Orwellian"

I don't know how "Thats not altered, thats sped up" can be read as anything but ignorance. This article is just another example of "TRUMP IS LITERALLY HITLER!!" when even George W. Bush was more dangerous to the American way of life than Trump is.


Oh look another triggered trump supporter.


Care to refute anything I said or do you just have more generalization to throw out?


The article says nothing about Trump being Hitler. You had to make up a strawman to defend it.
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DanHarenChamp
11/12/18 11:57:09 AM
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no one speeds up video to see if its a touchdown or first down, they slow it down.
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pikachupwnage
11/12/18 11:57:32 AM
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Superlinkbro
11/12/18 11:58:02 AM
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We need to dump the Trump already.
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Damn_Underscore
11/12/18 11:58:18 AM
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And in doing, so she coined another phrase that, though not as catchy as "alternative facts," is just as Orwellian.


This line does in fact compare the Trump administration to Hitler (or Stalin or whatever dictator you want to use).
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user78
11/12/18 11:58:18 AM
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So now Youtube will be flooded by sped up Trump videos?
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spudger
11/12/18 11:59:04 AM
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Tmaster148 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
lol at "just as Orwellian"

I don't know how "Thats not altered, thats sped up" can be read as anything but ignorance. This article is just another example of "TRUMP IS LITERALLY HITLER!!" when even George W. Bush was more dangerous to the American way of life than Trump is.


Oh look another triggered trump supporter.


Care to refute anything I said or do you just have more generalization to throw out?


The article says nothing about Trump being Hitler. You had to make up a strawman to defend it.

got eem

too bad its a gimmick
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Tmaster148
11/12/18 11:59:04 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
And in doing, so she coined another phrase that, though not as catchy as "alternative facts," is just as Orwellian.


This line does in fact compare the Trump administration to Hitler (or Stalin or whatever dictator you want to use).


It does not. It compares it to a book that talks about authorian practices.
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Pogo_Marimo
11/12/18 11:59:54 AM
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DanHarenChamp posted...
no one speeds up video to see if its a touchdown or first down, they slow it down.

IT'S SPED UP, JUST LIKE SPORT. YOU LIKE SPORT. SPORT IS FAMILIAR. THEREFORE, THIS IS FAMILIAR. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH SPEEDING IT UP JUST LIKE SPORT.
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Damn_Underscore
11/12/18 12:01:10 PM
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A book which is in fact an allegory to the Soviet Union under Stalin.
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Tmaster148
11/12/18 12:05:33 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
A book which is in fact an allegory to the Soviet Union under Stalin.


Still not Hitler.
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Damn_Underscore
11/12/18 12:08:56 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
A book which is in fact an allegory to the Soviet Union under Stalin.


Still not Hitler.


No one ever said "Trump is literally Stalin", although there's not much of a difference between Hitler and Stalin.

Fine, here's my new version of what I posted:

" This article is just another example of "Trump is a dangerous dictator" when even George W. Bush was more dangerous to the American way of life than Trump is."

There, no strawmen at all. Please refute that.
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Tmaster148
11/12/18 12:11:13 PM
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The article says nothing about Trump. It only talks about Kelly's statement.

Also the Orwellian part is describing her term "Alternative Facts"
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Damn_Underscore
11/12/18 12:12:46 PM
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It's talking about the Trump Administration.

No one in this topic is discussing Kellyanne Conway by herself without discussing the Trump Administration (or Trump himself).
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Tmaster148
11/12/18 12:13:21 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
It's talking about the Trump Administration.

No one in this topic is discussing Kellyanne Conway by herself without discussing the Trump Administration (or Trump himself).


Just because you want to deflect to Trump doesn't mean everyone is.
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ultimate reaver
11/12/18 12:16:00 PM
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Damn_underscore is like the worse, less fun version of Differential_Equation that no one could ever like
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Damn_Underscore
11/12/18 12:20:00 PM
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https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a52453/alternative-facts/

This is the article about "alternative facts", cited in this article about the Jim Acost video

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a52453/alternative-facts/

I am not the first to deflect to Trump, as you say.

Also, why are you even arguing this? It's pretty obvious that this article is implying that there are much worse problems with the Trump Administration than Kellyanne Conway.
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spudger
11/12/18 12:21:30 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
Damn_underscore is like the worse, less fun version of Differential_Equation that no one could ever like

I thought it was de alt
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Tmaster148
11/12/18 12:21:38 PM
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The only one who thinks the article is implying Trump is Hitler is you.
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NibeIungsnarf
11/12/18 12:25:33 PM
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So what's not Orwellian about lying through gritted teeth and claiming its just alternative facts or that you haven't altered anything, you've just sped it up?
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MC_BatCommander
11/12/18 12:26:34 PM
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lmao

this really is something
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Damn_Underscore
11/12/18 12:28:22 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
The only one who thinks the article is implying Trump is Hitler is you.


Using only words from the article, it's implying Trump's Administration is "Orwellian", which is such a joke because Trump is literally a celebrity businessman as President. His inner personality is the exact same as his outer personality, which is different from most politicians. That is why Trump's tweets are so shocking and "not presidential", because no other politician would even think of saying things like that in public, even if they agree with them.

Trump is harmless. He would be much more dangerous if he thought the exact same way as he does now, but his outer personality was a lovable guy.
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ninjarobot_22
11/12/18 12:29:00 PM
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Well if you're going to speed it up, at least add the Benny Hill theme. Shesh.

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Damn_Underscore
11/12/18 12:29:54 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
So what's not Orwellian about lying through gritted teeth and claiming its just alternative facts or that you haven't altered anything, you've just sped it up?


I really do think that is ignorance on her part. As someone said in this topic, they don't speed up video to show touchdowns, they slow it down.

Basically she doesn't know what she's talking about.
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Tmaster148
11/12/18 12:30:09 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
The only one who thinks the article is implying Trump is Hitler is you.


Using only words from the article, it's implying Trump is "Orwellian", which is such a joke because Trump is literally a celebrity businessman as President. His inner personality is the exact same as his outer personality, which is different from most politicians. That is why Trump's tweets are so shocking and "not presidential", because no other politician would even think of saying things like that in public, even if they agree with them.

Trump is harmless. He would be much more dangerous if he thought the exact same way as he does now, but his outer personality was a lovable guy.


The article literally states alternative facts is "Orwellian".

Sounds like the issue here is you have poor reading skills.
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NibeIungsnarf
11/12/18 12:30:31 PM
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Implying that doing Orwellian things is Orwellian is a joke because Trump is a spastic orange sea slug.

Logic!
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LightHawKnight
11/12/18 12:30:43 PM
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The23rdMagus posted...
It's not altered, but it's altered.


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Damn_Underscore
11/12/18 12:32:04 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
The only one who thinks the article is implying Trump is Hitler is you.


Using only words from the article, it's implying Trump is "Orwellian", which is such a joke because Trump is literally a celebrity businessman as President. His inner personality is the exact same as his outer personality, which is different from most politicians. That is why Trump's tweets are so shocking and "not presidential", because no other politician would even think of saying things like that in public, even if they agree with them.

Trump is harmless. He would be much more dangerous if he thought the exact same way as he does now, but his outer personality was a lovable guy.


The article literally states alternative facts is "Orwellian".

Sounds like the issue here is you have poor reading skills.


Alternative facts and this new quote about doctored video. If you read their article about alternative facts

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a52453/alternative-facts/

It very explicitly refers to the Trump Administration.
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Tmaster148
11/12/18 12:33:02 PM
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You are now talking about a different article. You really want to defend her statements.
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NibeIungsnarf
11/12/18 12:35:35 PM
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Is Dumbo Underscore implying Kellyann Connway is not part of the Trump administration?

Because uh... she is.
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Damn_Underscore
11/12/18 12:36:38 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
You are now talking about a different article. You really want to defend her statements.


What are you talking about?

Both of her statements are dumb. But to say they are Orwellian (and therefore implying totalitarianism) is just as dumb.
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Tmaster148
11/12/18 12:36:53 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Is Dumbo Underscore implying Kellyann Connway is not part of the Trump administration?

Because uh... she is.

He's trying to claim this article is calling Trump Hitler because it mentions Orwellian and not understand that it's referring to "Alternative Facts" and not Trump.
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Damn_Underscore
11/12/18 12:40:08 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Is Dumbo Underscore implying Kellyann Connway is not part of the Trump administration?

Because uh... she is.


What?

TC is saying that the article is not talking about the Trump Administration

"The article says nothing about Trump. It only talks about Kelly's statement. '
"Just because you want to deflect to Trump doesn't mean everyone is."

I am saying that this article is treating her as a representative of the Trump Administration.

"It's talking about the Trump Administration.

No one in this topic is discussing Kellyanne Conway by herself without discussing the Trump Administration (or Trump himself)."
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NibeIungsnarf
11/12/18 12:40:22 PM
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Okay, I don't get it. Trump is Orwellian. The article might be referring specifically to the phrase and Dumbo too dumbo to understand that, but he is.

But even so, that's not in any way shape or form the same as calling him Hitler. That's the most dumbo claim of all.
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Tmaster148
11/12/18 12:41:47 PM
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Maybe Damn_Underscore could read he would realize that I've only said the article does not mention Trump. Said nothing about his admin.
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Damn_Underscore
11/12/18 12:42:36 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Is Dumbo Underscore implying Kellyann Connway is not part of the Trump administration?

Because uh... she is.

He's trying to claim this article is calling Trump Hitler because it mentions Orwellian and not understand that it's referring to "Alternative Facts" and not Trump.


You're right. The article is not calling Trump Hitler. It's calling Trump Stalin.

Once again, read their Alternative Facts article. If this article is about Alternative Facts, then it is also about the Trump Administration.
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Tmaster148
11/12/18 12:43:33 PM
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The article only briefing mentions alternative facts. It has nothing to do with alternative facts.
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