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Funkydog
11/14/18 4:18:00 PM
#51:


You make Faux News and Criminally Negligent News?

Who cares?
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King_Hellebuyck
11/14/18 4:18:41 PM
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Nomadic View posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Acosta will cry racism or some other nonsense,


lmao why do you keep repeating this?


Birds fly, lions roar, CNN calls everything racist.

So are you incapable of making sense or what?
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Ruvan22
11/14/18 4:19:38 PM
#53:


Nomadic View posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Acosta will cry racism or some other nonsense,


lmao why do you keep repeating this?


Birds fly, lions roar, CNN calls everything racist.


So if I watch CNN, all I will see will be everything being called racist? Like, NO other news articles?
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Houston
11/14/18 4:21:24 PM
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Trump has every right to revoke a pass. It's not limiting free press. Hes a disruptive "reporter"
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Maeiv
11/14/18 4:22:49 PM
#55:


From Tucker Carlson agreeing with Ocasio-Cortez to this, what a week for Fox News
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King_Hellebuyck
11/14/18 4:23:23 PM
#56:


Maeiv posted...
From Tucker Carlson agreeing with Ocasio-Cortez to this, what a week for Fox News

Oh boy I missed that one, what happened?
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Maeiv
11/14/18 4:25:15 PM
#57:


King_Hellebuyck posted...
Maeiv posted...
From Tucker Carlson agreeing with Ocasio-Cortez to this, what a week for Fox News

Oh boy I missed that one, what happened?


https://thehill.com/homenews/media/416588-tucker-carlson-backs-ocasio-cortez-on-criticism-of-amazon-hq2-incentives
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RickyTheBAWSE
11/14/18 4:25:51 PM
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Donald Trump about to be on Twitter like: "When I leave, come together like butt cheeks!"
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P4wn4g3
11/14/18 4:25:59 PM
#59:


Rekt

Dolan Trump VS Rupert Murdock Fight!!
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King_Hellebuyck
11/14/18 4:26:44 PM
#60:


Maeiv posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Maeiv posted...
From Tucker Carlson agreeing with Ocasio-Cortez to this, what a week for Fox News

Oh boy I missed that one, what happened?


https://thehill.com/homenews/media/416588-tucker-carlson-backs-ocasio-cortez-on-criticism-of-amazon-hq2-incentives

That makes sense, Im glad that progressives and conservatives are on the same page about Amazon not deserving shit.
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Ruvan22
11/14/18 4:33:37 PM
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Houston posted...
Trump has every right to revoke a pass. It's not limiting free press. Hes a disruptive "reporter"


Under what does he have the right?
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RickyTheBAWSE
11/14/18 4:38:07 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...
Houston posted...
Trump has every right to revoke a pass. It's not limiting free press. Hes a disruptive "reporter"


Under what does he have the right?


the right as Shadaloo's HNIC. the BAWSE. the One. the don. the head honcho. the nucleus of the White House terror cell.
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Houston
11/14/18 4:42:03 PM
#63:


Ruvan22 posted...
Houston posted...
Trump has every right to revoke a pass. It's not limiting free press. Hes a disruptive "reporter"


Under what does he have the right?


He's the president. Who else would get to decide? What if a reporter became intentionally and loudly disruptive every day? Yelling and screaming? They just get to stay forever?

And CNN can find another reporter. Access to information is in no way being limited.
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Bio1590
11/14/18 4:54:15 PM
#64:


Houston posted...
He's the president. Who else would get to decide?

Pretty sure it's the Secret Service.

King_Hellebuyck posted...
Maeiv posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Maeiv posted...
Oh boy I missed that one, what happened?


https://thehill.com/homenews/media/416588-tucker-carlson-backs-ocasio-cortez-on-criticism-of-amazon-hq2-incentives

That makes sense, Im glad that progressives and conservatives are on the same page about Amazon not deserving shit.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves - Tucker's only against Amazon because Trump is against Bezos.

Nomadic View posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Acosta will cry racism or some other nonsense,


lmao why do you keep repeating this?


Birds fly, lions roar, CNN calls everything racist.

Like Trump calling that reporter's question a "racist question" last week or what?
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Ruvan22
11/14/18 4:56:55 PM
#65:


Houston posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Houston posted...
Trump has every right to revoke a pass. It's not limiting free press. Hes a disruptive "reporter"


Under what does he have the right?


He's the president. Who else would get to decide? What if a reporter became intentionally and loudly disruptive every day? Yelling and screaming? They just get to stay forever?

And CNN can find another reporter. Access to information is in no way being limited.


The courts? Being president doesn't mean you get to make up any rules you want...
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Houston
11/14/18 5:31:21 PM
#66:


Ruvan22 posted...
Houston posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Houston posted...
Trump has every right to revoke a pass. It's not limiting free press. Hes a disruptive "reporter"


Under what does he have the right?


He's the president. Who else would get to decide? What if a reporter became intentionally and loudly disruptive every day? Yelling and screaming? They just get to stay forever?

And CNN can find another reporter. Access to information is in no way being limited.


The courts? Being president doesn't mean you get to make up any rules you want...


Oh christ you people are something else. Do you really care that little turd got his pass revoked? Do you actually believe that is unfair?
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Ruvan22
11/14/18 5:34:41 PM
#67:


Houston posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Houston posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Houston posted...
Trump has every right to revoke a pass. It's not limiting free press. Hes a disruptive "reporter"


Under what does he have the right?


He's the president. Who else would get to decide? What if a reporter became intentionally and loudly disruptive every day? Yelling and screaming? They just get to stay forever?

And CNN can find another reporter. Access to information is in no way being limited.


The courts? Being president doesn't mean you get to make up any rules you want...


Oh christ you people are something else. Do you really care that little turd got his pass revoked? Do you actually believe that is unfair?


I thought your position was that Trump has the authority.. are you now changing your position to "it's not that big a deal"?
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RickyTheBAWSE
11/14/18 5:36:58 PM
#68:


Ruvan22 posted...
Houston posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Houston posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Houston posted...
Trump has every right to revoke a pass. It's not limiting free press. Hes a disruptive "reporter"


Under what does he have the right?


He's the president. Who else would get to decide? What if a reporter became intentionally and loudly disruptive every day? Yelling and screaming? They just get to stay forever?

And CNN can find another reporter. Access to information is in no way being limited.


The courts? Being president doesn't mean you get to make up any rules you want...


Oh christ you people are something else. Do you really care that little turd got his pass revoked? Do you actually believe that is unfair?


I thought your position was that Trump has the authority.. are you now changing your position to "it's not that big a deal"?


seems that way.
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P4wn4g3
11/14/18 5:39:25 PM
#69:


Fuck do you fucking care about fucking rights because Houston fucking don't God damnit
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Houston
11/14/18 5:44:31 PM
#70:


Bio1590 posted...
Pretty sure it's the Secret Service.


His credentials were taken by secret service, though. Lol
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Axiom
11/14/18 5:47:29 PM
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Lol are they really. I wonder if this will end Trump's love affair with them
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Houston
11/14/18 5:48:25 PM
#72:


Ruvan22 posted...
Houston posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Houston posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Houston posted...
Trump has every right to revoke a pass. It's not limiting free press. Hes a disruptive "reporter"


Under what does he have the right?


He's the president. Who else would get to decide? What if a reporter became intentionally and loudly disruptive every day? Yelling and screaming? They just get to stay forever?

And CNN can find another reporter. Access to information is in no way being limited.


The courts? Being president doesn't mean you get to make up any rules you want...


Oh christ you people are something else. Do you really care that little turd got his pass revoked? Do you actually believe that is unfair?


I thought your position was that Trump has the authority.. are you now changing your position to "it's not that big a deal"?


The justice department is arguing he does have that discretion for journalists.

It doesn't seem outlandish, either. Acosta was a trouble maker. He routinely disobeyed and was disrespectful. He was a disrupter.

This isn't some shocking thing. Some of you act like Trump just banned all networks permenantly
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Bio1590
11/14/18 5:51:24 PM
#73:


Houston posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Pretty sure it's the Secret Service.


His credentials were taken by secret service, though. Lol

...yes? You asked "Who else would get to decide?" and I answered your dumbass question, which clearly wasn't enough because you gave a dumbass response.
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Bio1590
11/14/18 5:52:20 PM
#74:


Houston posted...

The justice department is arguing he does have that discretion for journalists.

The "Justice Department" hasn't argued anything yet.
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Bio1590
11/14/18 5:54:12 PM
#75:


Like regardless of what you want to argue, based on precedence this is open and shut not in Trump's favour.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/11/jim-acosta-cnn-white-house-first-amendment.html

Trump also admitted on Friday that Acostas press pass was pulled because he does not treat the presidency with respect and threatened to withdraw passes from other journalists he considers belligerent questioners. He went on to hurl insults at another reporter, April Ryan, a respected veteran White House reporter who is black and whom he had refused to allow even to pose a question during Wednesdays press conference. On Friday, Trump also verbally abused another black journalist, Abby Phillip (also of CNN), calling her entirely reasonable question about the new acting attorney general and the Mueller investigation stupid.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit concluded nearly 41 years ago that the Secret Service cannot deny a journalist White House press credentials absent a compelling purposeand certainly cannot do so because the president is not a fan of a journalists reporting. As Scott Nover reported, the appellate decision concerned Robert Sherrill, a reporter for the Nation magazine who was notorious for challenging both Republican and Democratic politicians, including and especially regarding the Vietnam War. When Sherrill applied for a White House press pass in 1966 (during the Johnson presidency) the Secret Service denied his request, and also denied his renewed application in 1972 during the Nixon administration. When pressed, the government vaguely asserted that he posed a security risk (presumably relying upon some physical altercations and charges in Merrills past). The American Civil Liberties Union ultimately brought suit on Sherrills behalf, and he prevailed before the appellate court in 1977.

The D.C. Circuit reasoned that the White Houses press facilities have long been made publicly available to journalists as a source of information for newsmen, and stated that such access is essential to press coverage of the White House and the president. Accordingly, the appellate court reasoned that the First Amendments protection of freedom of the press bars the denial of a White House press pass to an individual journalist arbitrarily or for less than compelling reasons. Other courts have reached the same conclusion regarding similar governmental attempts to selectively exclude the press, reasoning that the [e]xclusion of an individual reporter carries with it the danger that granting favorable treatment to certain members of the media allows the government to influence the type of substantive media coverage that public events will receive, which effectively harms the public. Furthermore, viewpoint-based exclusions of reporters, as Acosta experienced, have repeatedly been rejected as almost categorically unconstitutional because they strike at the heart of the First Amendment.

The Sherrill decision concluded that constitutional due process standards require the Secret Service to explain the standards for press pass denials, give a journalist facing a denial the right to respond, and, if the government stands on its denial decision, mandate that it state the final reasons in writing. The government failed to follow those mandatory procedures before pulling Acostas credentials. Even if this procedural misconduct is remedied, it is difficult to imagine the Secret Service successfully defending Trumps pulling of Acostas credentials given both the presidents admission of his improper purpose and the White Houses reliance on manipulated evidence in support of its ex post facto rationalization.

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Houston
11/14/18 5:55:48 PM
#76:


Bio1590 posted...
Houston posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Pretty sure it's the Secret Service.


His credentials were taken by secret service, though. Lol

...yes? You asked "Who else would get to decide?" and I answered your dumbass question, which clearly wasn't enough because you gave a dumbass response.


You responded like you didn't know they were the ones who revoked the pass. Because if you think they should decide... and they're the ones who took the pass.. why are you in this topic upset at the outcome?
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The Ayatollah C
11/14/18 5:58:19 PM
#77:


Bio1590 posted...
Houston posted...
He's the president. Who else would get to decide?

Pretty sure it's the Secret Service.

King_Hellebuyck posted...
Maeiv posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Maeiv posted...
Oh boy I missed that one, what happened?


https://thehill.com/homenews/media/416588-tucker-carlson-backs-ocasio-cortez-on-criticism-of-amazon-hq2-incentives

That makes sense, Im glad that progressives and conservatives are on the same page about Amazon not deserving shit.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves - Tucker's only against Amazon because Trump is against Bezos.



And Trump is only against Bezos because he's jealous of him
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Bio1590
11/14/18 5:58:39 PM
#78:


Houston posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Houston posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Pretty sure it's the Secret Service.


His credentials were taken by secret service, though. Lol

...yes? You asked "Who else would get to decide?" and I answered your dumbass question, which clearly wasn't enough because you gave a dumbass response.


You responded like you didn't know they were the ones who revoked the pass. Because if you think they should decide... and they're the ones who took the pass.. why are you in this topic upset at the outcome?

No, your dumbass post was phrased as it was only Trump who had the right because "he's the President". You don't get to ask "Who else would decide" and then pretend you didn't really mean it.
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Prestoff
11/14/18 6:06:22 PM
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Im pretty sure Fox News is with then on this because this can lead to a dangerous precedent.
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DemonBuffet
11/14/18 6:08:40 PM
#80:


Fox News is now in the FAKE NEWZ! Category
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sktgamer_13dude
11/14/18 8:12:48 PM
#81:


As I said earlier, you cant just take away press passes because your feelings got hurt. Especially when you use a doctored video (that your own admin admitted was doctored) as your evidence on why you want to ban a person.

This isnt the Apprentice.
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Ruvan22
11/14/18 11:51:28 PM
#82:


Houston posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Houston posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Houston posted...
Ruvan22 posted...
Houston posted...
Trump has every right to revoke a pass. It's not limiting free press. Hes a disruptive "reporter"


Under what does he have the right?


He's the president. Who else would get to decide? What if a reporter became intentionally and loudly disruptive every day? Yelling and screaming? They just get to stay forever?

And CNN can find another reporter. Access to information is in no way being limited.


The courts? Being president doesn't mean you get to make up any rules you want...


Oh christ you people are something else. Do you really care that little turd got his pass revoked? Do you actually believe that is unfair?


I thought your position was that Trump has the authority.. are you now changing your position to "it's not that big a deal"?


The justice department is arguing he does have that discretion for journalists.

It doesn't seem outlandish, either. Acosta was a trouble maker. He routinely disobeyed and was disrespectful. He was a disrupter.

This isn't some shocking thing. Some of you act like Trump just banned all networks permenantly


Well so far the justice dept would seem to be going against precedent, so your original position of "As the president he has the authority" is wrong. Also, Trump has frequently talked about banning networks/pulling "credentials", and more recently about excluding other reporters that "don't respect etc".
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southcoast09
11/14/18 11:59:38 PM
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I think that the public humiliation and having the stigma added to his name for life is punishment enough. Hes already going to be the laughingstock or the press pool, so making him go back would further embarrass him.
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Funkydog
11/15/18 12:53:40 AM
#84:


southcoast09 posted...
I think that the public humiliation and having the stigma added to his name for life is punishment enough. Hes already going to be the laughingstock or the press pool, so making him go back would further embarrass him.

Come on, I am sure it won't be THAT bad for Trump.
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RickyTheBAWSE
11/15/18 5:19:23 PM
#85:


southcoast09 posted...
I think that the public humiliation and having the stigma added to his name for life is punishment enough. Hes already going to be the laughingstock or the press pool, so making him go back would further embarrass him.


one deserves the treatment they've given/attempted to give to others. whatever energy you put out is the energy you deserve in return.
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