Board 8 > Danganronpa Mafia - CHAPTER 5: Part 2

(+) Yeah! (+)

let me put it this way. if neablis tells me that han has to be town, then i therefore trust neablis/han/igcd, and i trust you, sultan. that makes the team corrik/death/johnbobb. this isn't an impossible scenario.

but what keeps me from accepting han as town in that scenario, is han is corrik's biggest defender. the one who is keeping the "corrik must be town" narrative alive the most is han. han keeps saying "this is corrik's town game, it just is" and i just... struggle with it.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Corrik posted...

Likeliness of 2 scum left is negligible.

Well you 2 and 1 other person maybe

I mean, I guess it is possible but how am I getting my confirmable information then?
---

Or do you think my role is just scum?
---

Corrik posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Corrik posted...

Likeliness of 2 scum left is negligible.

Well you 2 and 1 other person maybe

I mean, I guess it is possible but how am I getting my confirmable information then?

Being scum and have another person on your team with some sort of power idk I'm still trying to work things out I'm throwing out scenarios
---

I guess what I'm feeling is, I don't want to vote Johnbobb today. I won't stop you from doing it if it's what you feel is right. But I don't feel right doing it. I can vote Corrik if we want to make that play, or I can vote death as a safe option, because it's not like any of my scenarios have death as town. What are you thinking?

Anyone have votals?
---

Look, the role stuff goes over my head, but I simplify things like this - Is it possible that scum has some sort of powerful watcher role that is designed to make them look like "confirmed" helpful town? Yeah, it's possible. I don't need to figure out the intricacies of it to know that this wouldn't be the first time some unique role turns out to be scum despite the person saying "oh but it's such a town role, how would i ever be scum with this" And if it's possible, that means corrik being scum isn't off the table, and if it's not off the table, then who cares.

Corrik is not the right vote, personally I think jb is the correct vote

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Okay so this is totally a double edged sword for me here huh... of I got with my one instance and honestly thinking more and more of it it might be the right call or the other safer route either way it needs to be the right decision or town loses tomorrow..

Here is the Thing HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU GUYS SAYING CORRIK IS CONFIRMED TOWN?

Only one saying Corrik is confirmed is corrik. Corrik is using his words and manipulation by keep saying he is town.. but nothing he has done has screamed town.. neab has done more to look town and corrik hasnt...

On the other hand John is the "safer option" johnbob has looked scummy at times the confusion of night 2 could boil down to John bob and if JB flips Scum it could possibly clear up my claim and show you I haven't been lying this whole time.

Also do you guys really think I'm clever enough to pull off the gambit you are saying i an pulling off beacuse honestly that sounds way to complicated for me to orcistare and figure out even more so as a replacement player.

The way Corrik played D1 doesn't line up with him as Scum. Town Corrik is free to bugger off all he wants. And he basically did that, D1. He even admitted to being distracted.

Scum Corrik takes his job more seriously. Scum Corrik is conniving and manipulative. Town Corrik is... "gimme the night actions and deaths and I'll figure it out from there".

And no Sultan, this is not about your cleverness. You replaced into an existing claim, and you would just have to read the Scumboard and do what they said.

Most likely, once they saw there was a Town role who could just visit people for no purpose, they realized there was an easy way to check you without that role losing anything, and then told you to claim you lost your ability.

IF you're Town, then that basically guarantees Dels as Scum with these roles.
---

Corrik thinks death is scum, I think death is scum, you think death is scum... alright so another question what is the likely hood of all 3 of us being town that would mean what...
---

Neablis posted...

Corrik is not the right vote, personally I think jb is the correct vote

Ergh... You may just know better than me, I won't deny it. Any chance you'd vote death? How many of your scenarios have death as town?

I agree Dels and sultans roles don't likely coexist.

Both can somewhat punish scum for shooting their spots.
---

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Corrik thinks death is scum, I think death is scum, you think death is scum... alright so another question what is the likely hood of all 3 of us being town that would mean what...

Yeah, it's tricky. If death is scum, someone is bussing him I'd imagine. I mean, no one has really stood up for him. Now, my conspiracy theory is han and corrik are together, so they defend each other but bus death. But if it's johnbobb, then... well johnbobb got into that big fight with death about the doublevote earlier. they don't seem aligned to me. Neablis hasn't talked about death either? If it really is as simple as neablis killed someone n2 and is scum, so is johnbobb, so is death, then... maybe? But ehhhhh.

Han that is a good point..
---

[2] Johnbobb - Neablis, (Death), Death, (IGCD)
[1] Death - (Corrik), Johnbobb
[1] Dels - (Corrik), Han
[0] Neablis - (Corrik), (Johnbobb)
[0] Corrik - (Sultan), (IGCD)

15 minutes remain in the day
---

MY BRAIN HURTS lol god I love this game even if I'm not the best at it!
---

##vote: Dels
---

I won't turn against you no matter how much they say our roles can't co-exist, sultan. =P

and han, i just reject your argument about corrik's behaviour. idk his town behaviour that well but i've seen his scum behaviour recently and it was exactly the same as this. this thing about how he does his own thing vs analyzing data just feels really easily to manipulate. he's not that easy to read, hell, doesn't he win every time he's scum?

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

MY BRAIN HURTS lol god I love this game even if I'm not the best at it!

geez dude

also hi
---

alright, so what've we got

corrik and han are staunchly against dels

neablis and death both want johnbobb gone

johnbobb wants death.

sultan, you and I could join johnbobb on death.

or any of you can just vote me or we can vote johnbobb. but i'm not gonna vote johnbobb.

OR we can all turn against corrik.

who wants to do what?

sultan

between me/corrik/dels/death

who is most scum and most town
---

Dels trying to woo people again. Lol. I will never turn against you. Lol
---

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

MY BRAIN HURTS lol god I love this game even if I'm not the best at it!

just don't let people intimidate you into doing anything you don't want to do.

you can trust me if you want to. you don't have to listen to corrik and han.

do what you want to do, and don't feel ashamed about it.

Well johnbob you might be shocked to hear this but actually you are...
---

Corrik posted...

Dels trying to woo people again. Lol. I will never turn against you. Lol

yeah man, i'm a loyal person. you and han both said at the same time that sultan and i can't co-exist. i reject that. i trust sultan and i hope he trusts me.

I will admit Dels is good at wooing

it's why I always like playing with Dels
---

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Well johnbob you might be shocked to hear this but actually you are...

I'm most scum and most town?

sweet
---

Corrik posted...

Dels trying to woo people again. Lol. I will never turn against you. Lol

but corrik, you know that's how i play when i'm town, so why is it a problem

Dels posted...

Corrik posted...

Dels trying to woo people again. Lol. I will never turn against you. Lol

yeah man, i'm a loyal person. you and han both said at the same time that sultan and i can't co-exist. i reject that. i trust sultan and i hope he trusts me.

Both your roles somewhat punish scum for shooting your spots potentially

Sultans roleblocks it if not went to beforehand

Yours keeps your town voice in the game and could potentially hijack a scum vote if scum is chosen to hydra with.
---

Sorry I meant most town.
---

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Sorry I meant most town.

more sweet
---

sultan, come on, what are your thoughts on death? did you give an answer and i missed it? death is on the table here. i get that you prefer johnbobb, are you set on going that direction?

Dels posted...

Corrik posted...

Dels trying to woo people again. Lol. I will never turn against you. Lol

but corrik, you know that's how i play when i'm town, so why is it a problem

You keep saying you want them to do what they think while trying to influence them to do what you want through slippery talk.
---

also I still really kind of want to stay on Death

he's already guaranteeing himself that doublevote tomorrow if we don't lose today, which still just feels scummy
---

I'd be good with the death lynch
---

[2] Johnbobb - Neablis, (Death), Death, (IGCD)
[2] Dels - (Corrik), Han, Corrik
[1] Death - (Corrik), Johnbobb
[0] Neablis - (Corrik), (Johnbobb)
[0] Corrik - (Sultan), (IGCD)

10 minutes
---

Corrik posted...

Both your roles somewhat punish scum for shooting your spots potentially

Sultans roleblocks it if not went to beforehand

Yours keeps your town voice in the game and could potentially hijack a scum vote if scum is chosen to hydra with.

i mean, sure, but the roles are still pretty different, aren't they? like yeah you can point out that they're similar, but they can co-exist, right?

(full disclosure: i have no idea what sultan's role is lol)

Okay. I'll go for death. I feel okay about that.

Any chance the three of us vote Corrik? Or you guys want to play it safe? I follow your lead.

also where is neab

why did both of them just sit on me and then leave
---

Here is the thing about Corrik I believe with all of the actions that we have N2 it is relatively speaking impossible to be involved in it.

First actions: We know that he saw two people visited FD. This has been claimed by Myself and DYL as happening.

We also know that a rb went to han.

A action went to sultan

A kill went to FD by a ninja (or corrik is lying about amounts but meh?)

We have doop gladiator

We have sbell godfather

Therefore corrik could not of known how many went to fd if he is scum and sultans power pop at the same time imo.

It points to corrik being town

Johnbobb posted...

also I still really kind of want to stay on Death

he's already guaranteeing himself that doublevote tomorrow if we don't lose today, which still just feels scummy

Gotta get over that. Not saying voting death is wrong, but the reasoning isn't good itself. Seems like you are just pissed about it and voting him because ur pissed.
---

Tbh my role is nilla now and was kind of weak to begin with
---

##vote:death

I kind of like the johnbob though on that bible vote
---

Neablis posted...

Here is the thing about Corrik I believe with all of the actions that we have N2 it is relatively speaking impossible to be involved in it.

First actions: We know that he saw two people visited FD. This has been claimed by Myself and DYL as happening.

We also know that a rb went to han.

A action went to sultan

A kill went to FD by a ninja (or corrik is lying about amounts but meh?)

We have doop gladiator

We have sbell godfather

Therefore corrik could not of known how many went to fd if he is scum and sultans power pop at the same time imo.

It points to corrik being town

I'm sorry, it's still too hard for me to understand, but, question: isn't it possible corrik has exactly the role he says he does, but it's just a scum role?

Dels posted...

Corrik posted...

Both your roles somewhat punish scum for shooting your spots potentially

Sultans roleblocks it if not went to beforehand

Yours keeps your town voice in the game and could potentially hijack a scum vote if scum is chosen to hydra with.

i mean, sure, but the roles are still pretty different, aren't they? like yeah you can point out that they're similar, but they can co-exist, right?

(full disclosure: i have no idea what sultan's role is lol)

Said he felt good sultan was town because of the claim and initial post. Then says he doesn't even know his role.

Just lol
---

Double... how didnt double turn to bible fucking phone
---

[2] Johnbobb - Neablis, (Death), Death, (IGCD)
[2] Dels - (Corrik), Han, Corrik
[2] Death - (Corrik), Johnbobb, Sultan
[0] Neablis - (Corrik), (Johnbobb)
[0] Corrik - (Sultan), (IGCD)
---

Corrik posted...

Said he felt good sultan was town because of the claim and initial post. Then says he doesn't even know his role.

Just lol

because of ffnut's claim!

I didn't really focus on what the claim was, just the fact that he claimed it so early and openly and bodly!

Dels posted...

Neablis posted...

Here is the thing about Corrik I believe with all of the actions that we have N2 it is relatively speaking impossible to be involved in it.

First actions: We know that he saw two people visited FD. This has been claimed by Myself and DYL as happening.

We also know that a rb went to han.

A action went to sultan

A kill went to FD by a ninja (or corrik is lying about amounts but meh?)

We have doop gladiator

We have sbell godfather

Therefore corrik could not of known how many went to fd if he is scum and sultans power pop at the same time imo.

It points to corrik being town

I'm sorry, it's still too hard for me to understand, but, question: isn't it possible corrik has exactly the role he says he does, but it's just a scum role?

Scum would have to many powers n2 to account for unless the team is corrik/sultan +1

Dels posted...

Corrik posted...

Said he felt good sultan was town because of the claim and initial post. Then says he doesn't even know his role.

Just lol

because of ffnut's claim!

I didn't really focus on what the claim was, just the fact that he claimed it so early and openly and bodly!

You are all over the place
---