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ThrillKillFan
11/18/18 12:30:36 AM
#102:


Posting people's personal information so people who think like you can harass and possibly even physically attack those people is NOT protected.

But if these people wanted to say "XYZ is an ABC and a blah blah blah blah" WITHOUT posting addresses, phones numbers and the like, then it should be protected.
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Bio1590
11/18/18 12:33:06 AM
#103:


ThrillKillFan posted...
Posting people's personal information so people who think like you can harass and possibly even physically attack those people is NOT protected.

But if these people wanted to say "XYZ is an ABC and a blah blah blah blah" WITHOUT posting addresses, phones numbers and the like, then it should be protected.

Your second example can easily slide into slander or libel territory.
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apocalyptic_4
11/18/18 12:34:46 AM
#104:


Will someone think of the nazis!?!
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shokan_warrior
11/18/18 12:49:56 AM
#105:


Kineth posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
Kineth posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
Uh, let me be clear, uh, don't get it twisted

1) Lauren Southern is NOT a nazi of any kind

2) I consider the "neo" position purely racist, crude, and filled with antisemitic conspiracy theories

I am not like that

I am not filled with hate and I am not obsessed with the JQ or any other nonsense

Hopefully that makes things clearer @ SchoolForAnts


Why choose to associate yourself with Nazis if you're saying you aren't one? Nazis and Neo-Nazis do not differ on their beliefs about race. Neo-Nazis just have prioritized that more than Nazis. If you're saying that you're a national socialist in the pure political sense, you shouldn't label yourself as a Nazi.

That said, when you sympathize with Neo-Nazis, Nazis and other white supremacist groups and individuals in general, it makes your words ring hollow.

Y'all labeled me a nazi and i rolled with it because nazi os short for nazi sozi and all that


That didn't answer why you choose to associate with them.

Yes it does
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Kineth
11/18/18 4:05:27 AM
#106:


shokan_warrior posted...
Kineth posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
Kineth posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
Uh, let me be clear, uh, don't get it twisted

1) Lauren Southern is NOT a nazi of any kind

2) I consider the "neo" position purely racist, crude, and filled with antisemitic conspiracy theories

I am not like that

I am not filled with hate and I am not obsessed with the JQ or any other nonsense

Hopefully that makes things clearer @ SchoolForAnts


Why choose to associate yourself with Nazis if you're saying you aren't one? Nazis and Neo-Nazis do not differ on their beliefs about race. Neo-Nazis just have prioritized that more than Nazis. If you're saying that you're a national socialist in the pure political sense, you shouldn't label yourself as a Nazi.

That said, when you sympathize with Neo-Nazis, Nazis and other white supremacist groups and individuals in general, it makes your words ring hollow.

Y'all labeled me a nazi and i rolled with it because nazi os short for nazi sozi and all that


That didn't answer why you choose to associate with them.

Yes it does


So you're saying that you got bullied into associating yourself with Nazis? Also, no it doesn't.
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shokan_warrior
11/18/18 6:15:13 AM
#107:


Kineth posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
Kineth posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
Kineth posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
Uh, let me be clear, uh, don't get it twisted

1) Lauren Southern is NOT a nazi of any kind

2) I consider the "neo" position purely racist, crude, and filled with antisemitic conspiracy theories

I am not like that

I am not filled with hate and I am not obsessed with the JQ or any other nonsense

Hopefully that makes things clearer @ SchoolForAnts


Why choose to associate yourself with Nazis if you're saying you aren't one? Nazis and Neo-Nazis do not differ on their beliefs about race. Neo-Nazis just have prioritized that more than Nazis. If you're saying that you're a national socialist in the pure political sense, you shouldn't label yourself as a Nazi.

That said, when you sympathize with Neo-Nazis, Nazis and other white supremacist groups and individuals in general, it makes your words ring hollow.

Y'all labeled me a nazi and i rolled with it because nazi os short for nazi sozi and all that


That didn't answer why you choose to associate with them.

Yes it does


So you're saying that you got bullied into associating yourself with Nazis? Also, no it doesn't.

I present my views and people call me nazi

I'd prefer to be called national socialist as that kinda avoids the historical baggage or fascist as its likely more accurate but people get stuck on "nazi"
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ModLogic
11/18/18 7:14:24 AM
#108:


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The Great Muta 22
11/18/18 9:03:13 AM
#109:


ModLogic posted...
at least they aren't calling you a sjw

that's the worst insult


Why you're defending and downplaying literal neo nazis and their defenders is beyond me
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King_Hellebuyck
11/18/18 9:09:14 AM
#110:


Is it safe to assume this topic only got so many posts because certain posters are always upset when bad things happen to Neo Nazis?
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ThyCorndog
11/18/18 9:17:27 AM
#111:


guys, relax. he's one of the good nazis
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SchoolForAnts
11/18/18 9:34:08 AM
#112:


shokan_warrior posted...
Uh, let me be clear, uh, don't get it twisted

1) Lauren Southern is NOT a nazi of any kind

2) I consider the "neo" position purely racist, crude, and filled with antisemitic conspiracy theories

I am not like that

I am not filled with hate and I am not obsessed with the JQ or any other nonsense

Hopefully that makes things clearer @SchoolForAnts


1) who cares about southern? Why did you bring her up? Obsessed much?

2) ah yeah, as opposed to the not neo position, which was known for their not-racist positions huh? Lmao

Youre just digging a deeper hole. Funny how the mods let you run rampant here
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SchoolForAnts
11/18/18 9:34:46 AM
#113:


RebelElite791 posted...
Ah yes the "traditional non-hateful Nazis"


We like the colors and symbols and the salute, NOT the racism, guys!
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SchoolForAnts
11/18/18 9:36:04 AM
#114:


SchoolForAnts posted...
@RebelElite791 posted...
shokan has been suspended like 3 times in the past half a year for posting pro-Nazi shit, can't understand why he's not banned.

Then again we have a new mod who thinks the Nazis "weren't all bad at the start" so


The kicker isnt even that he was suspended 3 times in the last 6 months for posting Nazi stuff.

The kicker is he came back a 4th and 5th time and the mods resorted to locking his topics so they didnt have to suspend him again.

Glittering fairy LITERALLY posted a pro-Nazi slogan and got a NKL for it.

What does that tell us about the mods?


Bump for awareness
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ModLogic
11/18/18 10:20:26 AM
#115:


ThyCorndog posted...
guys, relax. he's one of the good nazis

like john rabe
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Bio1590
11/18/18 11:46:49 AM
#116:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
ModLogic posted...
at least they aren't calling you a sjw

that's the worst insult


Why you're defending and downplaying literal neo nazis and their defenders is beyond me

Modlogic ending up on the same side as Neo-Nazis again, colour me surprised.
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Zodd3224
11/18/18 12:03:15 PM
#117:


AssultTank posted...
I'm okay with this. Harassment should not be tolerated or protected under the first amendment.

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SchoolForAnts
11/18/18 12:13:39 PM
#118:


Bio1590 posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
ModLogic posted...
at least they aren't calling you a sjw

that's the worst insult


Why you're defending and downplaying literal neo nazis and their defenders is beyond me

Modlogic ending up on the same side as Neo-Nazis again, colour me surprised.
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literally52
11/18/18 12:18:15 PM
#119:


Nobody supports the punishing of the dirty radical liberals who dox?
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Zodd3224
11/18/18 12:19:38 PM
#120:


Modlogic is an anti-sjw gimmick, ignore him
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Dash_Harber
11/18/18 2:25:23 PM
#121:


shokan_warrior posted...

I present my views and people call me nazi


BECAUSE YOU SELF IDENTIFY AS A NAZI.

If I said, I believe in 'Flat Earth' and someone called me a Flat Earther, I don't get all huffy and go, "well, that's not what I am!".
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shokan_warrior
11/18/18 2:27:57 PM
#122:


Dash_Harber posted...
shokan_warrior posted...

I present my views and people call me nazi


BECAUSE YOU SELF IDENTIFY AS A NAZI.

If I said, I believe in 'Flat Earth' and someone called me a Flat Earther, I don't get all huffy and go, "well, that's not what I am!".

Being a national socialist in a pretty literal sense doesn't make me a member of the NSDAP or any kind of neo nazi group
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Dash_Harber
11/18/18 2:29:24 PM
#123:


shokan_warrior posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
shokan_warrior posted...

I present my views and people call me nazi


BECAUSE YOU SELF IDENTIFY AS A NAZI.

If I said, I believe in 'Flat Earth' and someone called me a Flat Earther, I don't get all huffy and go, "well, that's not what I am!".

Being a national socialist in a pretty literal sense doesn't make me a member of the NSDAP or any kind of neo nazi group


You said before;
- Strasserism is a form of Nazism and therefore can't be discounted.
- You call yourself a Nazi because you think people will label you a Nazi so you just go with it.

So, there you go, slugger.
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RebelElite791
11/18/18 2:30:04 PM
#124:


Dash_Harber posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
shokan_warrior posted...

I present my views and people call me nazi


BECAUSE YOU SELF IDENTIFY AS A NAZI.

If I said, I believe in 'Flat Earth' and someone called me a Flat Earther, I don't get all huffy and go, "well, that's not what I am!".

Being a national socialist in a pretty literal sense doesn't make me a member of the NSDAP or any kind of neo nazi group


You said before;
- Strasserism is a form of Nazism and therefore can't be discounted.
- You call yourself a Nazi because you think people will label you a Nazi so you just go with it.

So, there you go, slugger.

Just the other day in a topic about Nazis he was also like we...uhh, I mean they ;)
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shokan_warrior
11/18/18 2:35:20 PM
#125:


RebelElite791 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
shokan_warrior posted...

I present my views and people call me nazi


BECAUSE YOU SELF IDENTIFY AS A NAZI.

If I said, I believe in 'Flat Earth' and someone called me a Flat Earther, I don't get all huffy and go, "well, that's not what I am!".

Being a national socialist in a pretty literal sense doesn't make me a member of the NSDAP or any kind of neo nazi group


You said before;
- Strasserism is a form of Nazism and therefore can't be discounted.
- You call yourself a Nazi because you think people will label you a Nazi so you just go with it.

So, there you go, slugger.

Just the other day in a topic about Nazis he was also like we...uhh, I mean they ;)

How do you not realize that its a joke about my reputation
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Dash_Harber
11/18/18 2:36:26 PM
#126:


shokan_warrior posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
shokan_warrior posted...

I present my views and people call me nazi


BECAUSE YOU SELF IDENTIFY AS A NAZI.

If I said, I believe in 'Flat Earth' and someone called me a Flat Earther, I don't get all huffy and go, "well, that's not what I am!".

Being a national socialist in a pretty literal sense doesn't make me a member of the NSDAP or any kind of neo nazi group


You said before;
- Strasserism is a form of Nazism and therefore can't be discounted.
- You call yourself a Nazi because you think people will label you a Nazi so you just go with it.

So, there you go, slugger.

Just the other day in a topic about Nazis he was also like we...uhh, I mean they ;)

How do you not realize that its a joke about my reputation

Probably because the rest of the time you are praising Nazis, defending their rights to threaten people, and self-identifying as a Nazi.
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shokan_warrior
11/18/18 2:38:21 PM
#127:


Dash_Harber posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
shokan_warrior posted...

I present my views and people call me nazi


BECAUSE YOU SELF IDENTIFY AS A NAZI.

If I said, I believe in 'Flat Earth' and someone called me a Flat Earther, I don't get all huffy and go, "well, that's not what I am!".

Being a national socialist in a pretty literal sense doesn't make me a member of the NSDAP or any kind of neo nazi group


You said before;
- Strasserism is a form of Nazism and therefore can't be discounted.
- You call yourself a Nazi because you think people will label you a Nazi so you just go with it.

So, there you go, slugger.

Just the other day in a topic about Nazis he was also like we...uhh, I mean they ;)

How do you not realize that its a joke about my reputation

Probably because the rest of the time you are praising Nazis, defending their rights to threaten people, and self-identifying as a Nazi.

When have I ever done those things except the last one which we've gone over?
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ModLogic
11/18/18 2:39:43 PM
#128:


Dash_Harber posted...
shokan_warrior posted...

I present my views and people call me nazi


BECAUSE YOU SELF IDENTIFY AS A NAZI.

If I said, I believe in 'Flat Earth' and someone called me a Flat Earther, I don't get all huffy and go, "well, that's not what I am!".

tbf everyone not sjwing on gamefaqs is called a nazi.
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Dash_Harber
11/18/18 2:42:45 PM
#129:


shokan_warrior posted...
When have I ever done those things except the last one which we've gone over?

In the last topic, about the guy running a harassment campaign, that they should really define what 'harassment' meant.

Also, for the last one, you have said contradictory things; first you said that Strasserism was a valid form of Nazism, then you said, "I'm not a Nazi, but I follow Strasserism". You also said it wasn't anti-Semitic (blatantly untrue). Oh, and you keep saying the Nazis were socialists, which they aren't.

I'm like 90% sure you are either a troll or you are some young person with a very cursory understanding of that time period who just arbitrarily picked a branch of Nazism to be controversial and get attention.
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Dash_Harber
11/18/18 2:43:34 PM
#130:


ModLogic posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
shokan_warrior posted...

I present my views and people call me nazi


BECAUSE YOU SELF IDENTIFY AS A NAZI.

If I said, I believe in 'Flat Earth' and someone called me a Flat Earther, I don't get all huffy and go, "well, that's not what I am!".

tbf everyone not sjwing on gamefaqs is called a nazi.

TBF, I've never called anyone a Nazi except for people who identify as Nazis or blatantly espouse Nazi beliefs, so you can fuck off with that generalization to justify the argument bullshit.
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ModLogic
11/18/18 2:44:24 PM
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Dash_Harber
11/18/18 2:45:34 PM
#132:


ModLogic posted...
tbf you aren't the majority of sjw gamefaqs

Well then your comment has sweet fuck all to do with our discussion and interjecting it looks like you are just trying to generalize to defend someone who self-identifies as a Nazi.
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Bio1590
11/18/18 2:46:21 PM
#133:


Dash_Harber posted...
ModLogic posted...
tbf you aren't the majority of sjw gamefaqs

Well then your comment has sweet fuck all to do with our discussion and interjecting it looks like you are just trying to generalize to defend someone who self-identifies as a Nazi.

Bio1590 posted...
Modlogic ending up on the same side as Neo-Nazis again, colour me surprised.

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shokan_warrior
11/18/18 2:48:39 PM
#134:


Dash_Harber posted...
shokan_warrior posted...
When have I ever done those things except the last one which we've gone over?

In the last topic, about the guy running a harassment campaign, that they should really define what 'harassment' meant.

Also, for the last one, you have said contradictory things; first you said that Strasserism was a valid form of Nazism, then you said, "I'm not a Nazi, but I follow Strasserism". You also said it wasn't anti-Semitic (blatantly untrue). Oh, and you keep saying the Nazis were socialists, which they aren't.

I'm like 90% sure you are either a troll or you are some young person with a very cursory understanding of that time period who just arbitrarily picked a branch of Nazism to be controversial and get attention.

I thought I've been clear

In one of my posts I explained that I'm half trolling with the winking and stuff, still

I DO believe in some of the ideas but not all of them

I AM partial towards the fascist side of things but won't completely place all my eggs there because I love the constitution and generally favor capitalism

The whole Strasserism thing is to highlight the SOCIALIST element of national socialism

It it well known that before the purges the nazis had left leaning members and that hitler turned it into a monolithic system that favor him and his cronies
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UnfairRepresent
11/18/18 2:50:44 PM
#135:


This has nothing to do with free speech

Organized harrasment and threats is not free speech
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ModLogic
11/18/18 2:51:04 PM
#136:


Dash_Harber posted...
ModLogic posted...
tbf you aren't the majority of sjw gamefaqs

Well then your comment has sweet fuck all to do with our discussion and interjecting it looks like you are just trying to generalize to defend someone who self-identifies as a Nazi.

ao because i dont attack the same people you lot do i must be defending them? its impossible that im attacking sjws right?
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Dash_Harber
11/18/18 2:52:20 PM
#137:


shokan_warrior posted...
DO believe in some of the ideas but not all of them


Which ones?

shokan_warrior posted...

I AM partial towards the fascist side of things but won't completely place all my eggs there because I love the constitution and generally favor capitalism

The whole Strasserism thing is to highlight the SOCIALIST element of national socialism

It it well known that before the purges the nazis had left leaning members and that hitler turned it into a monolithic system that favor him and his cronies


What you don't seem to understand is that those people were purged by the Nazis. The Nazis brought in left leaning individuals to get a majority, then killed them when their power was secure. Nothing about their ideology has anything to do with socialism. The socialists among them were patsies.
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Space_Man
11/18/18 2:53:08 PM
#138:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
campaigns of hate, threats, and intimidation have no place in a civil society

Does this mean that those masked avengers chanting gems like "pigs in a blanket, fry em like bacon" or showing up unannounced on the lawns of news reporters in hopes of intimidating are no longer protected?
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Dash_Harber
11/18/18 2:54:09 PM
#139:


ModLogic posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
ModLogic posted...
tbf you aren't the majority of sjw gamefaqs

Well then your comment has sweet fuck all to do with our discussion and interjecting it looks like you are just trying to generalize to defend someone who self-identifies as a Nazi.

ao because i dont attack the same people you lot do i must be defending them? its impossible that im attacking sjws right?

You are trying to derail the topic by making it about something else. I don't know why you'd do that, but the fact that we are discussing Nazis makes it look like you are just trying to defend them, especially since not a single person mentioned SJWs except for you. If you can't see why we might think that, then I can't help you.
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ModLogic
11/18/18 2:57:27 PM
#140:


so you are labelling someone a nazi defender becauae they didnt feel the need to jump on the sjw bandwagon and attack the same individuals you are hmmmmm...
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Dash_Harber
11/18/18 2:58:47 PM
#141:


ModLogic posted...
so you are labelling someone a nazi defender becauae they didnt feel the need to jump on the sjw bandwagon and attack the same individuals you are hmmmmm...

No, because they said they were a Nazi multiple times in other topics.
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ModLogic
11/18/18 3:00:44 PM
#142:


but i dont care what they said as my target isnt them. doesn't mean im defending them.
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Bio1590
11/18/18 3:01:18 PM
#143:


ModLogic posted...
so you are labelling someone a nazi defender becauae they didnt feel the need to jump on the sjw bandwagon and attack the same individuals you are hmmmmm...

I'm beginning to believe you may in fact be as stupid as you act.
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Dash_Harber
11/18/18 3:02:28 PM
#144:


ModLogic posted...
but i dont care what they said as my target isnt them. doesn't mean im defending them.

I didn't say you were. I said it looks like you are because no one was talking about SJWs but you directly butted into our conversation to complain about them. I have no idea what you are actually trying to do, I'm only saying that going off topic to try and attack some other "group" when we are talking about Nazism is really odd.
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ModLogic
11/18/18 3:03:19 PM
#146:


believe whatever you want. as long as im not labeled a sjw. its all good.
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LightningAce11
11/18/18 3:07:21 PM
#149:


Why is it only one type of people who are so adamant about defending nazis?
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Bio1590
11/18/18 3:07:50 PM
#150:


How sad is this guy's life that he actually runs multiple gimmicks from a single account? One of which he's done for almost 14 years.
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shokan_warrior
11/18/18 3:08:42 PM
#151:


@ModLogic Normally I'd take whatever help I can get but in support of @Dash_Harber who's been very accommodating imma have to ignore your efforts
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ModLogic
11/18/18 3:10:24 PM
#152:


Bio1590 posted...
How sad is this guy's life that he actually runs multiple gimmicks from a single account? One of which he's done for almost 14 years.

"if you dont sjw with us you sad"
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