Current Events > FBI now classifies the Proud Boys as an 'Extremist Group'

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Bio1590
11/19/18 4:25:05 PM
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/19/proud-boys-fbi-classification-extremist-group-white-nationalism-report

The FBI now classifies the far-right Proud Boys as an extremist group with ties to white nationalism, according to a document produced by Washington state law enforcement.

The FBIs 2018 designation of the self-confessed western chauvinist group as extremist has not been previously made public.

The Proud Boys was founded by the Vice Media co-founder Gavin McInnes. McInnes has insisted that his group is not white nationalist or alt-right but the Proud Boys have a history of misogyny and glorifying violence. The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) lists them as a hate group.

The document also says: The FBI has warned local law enforcement agencies that the Proud Boys are actively recruiting in the Pacific north-west, and: Proud Boys members have contributed to the recent escalation of violence at political rallies held on college campuses, and in cities like Charlottesville, Virginia, Portland, Oregon, and Seattle, Washington.

The report, and the FBIs warning to south-west Washington police agencies about the Proud Boys role in escalating violence at these events came in August, two months before the group was involved in an infamous weekend of street violence in New York City and Portland, and not long after they participated in street violence in downtown Portland on 30 June.

The document, provided to the Guardian by the government transparency non-profit Property of the People, was part of an internal affairs investigation into a probationary deputy in the Clark county sheriffs department.

The former clark county deputy, Erin Willey, was fired last July after a photo of her wearing a Proud Boys Girls sweatshirt was published by the Vancouver, Washington newspaper the Columbian. The Proud Boys Girls is the female auxiliary of the men-only group founded by McInnes in 2016.

The author of the document, headquarters commander Michael McCabe, is in charge of internal affairs, training, background investigation and courthouse security in the Clark county sheriffs department.

After confirming the authenticity of the document, he told the Guardian in a telephone interview that the FBIs classification of the Proud Boys as an extremist group was revealed to him in a briefing we were given by the FBI on 2 August, at Clark countys west precinct.

The briefing included agency heads from local law enforcement, and in it the FBI said that they have been warning [local law enforcement] for a while about the Proud Boys, not just in Washington but around the nation.

The briefing including the Proud Boys was delivered by an FBI analyst, according to information forwarded to the Guardian by McCabe.

It touched on topics including How the FBI tracks hate/extremist groups, Brief history of these groups in the Pacific NW, A description of currently active groups with a focus on the Portland/Vancouver area, and Current trends or concerns over law enforcement officers/employees involvement with these groups.

The document says that Willey was an active Proud Boys Girls member between November 2016 and October 2017, and in February 2017 she actively participated in the manufacturing, advertising and selling of Proud Boys Girls merchandise on a website.

The document concludes that membership in the Proud Boys may constitute a violation of the Clark county sheriffs department oath to support and protect the laws of the United States, since Proud Boys members have been documented as having called for the closure of all prisons, the issuing of firearms to everyone, the legalization of all drugs, the deportation of all illegal immigrants and the shutdown of the government.

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Bio1590
11/19/18 4:25:37 PM
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Another concern expressed in the document produced by McCabe which was handed to the sheriff, Chuck E Atkins, so he could make a decision on Willeys future in the department was the possibility that the deputys membership in the group would constitute a so-called Brady violation.

The Brady doctrine requires prosecutors to disclose any potentially exculpatory evidence to defenses in the discovery phase of criminal trials.

Membership in the Proud Boys, the document says, may constitute evidence that a deputy is biased or has some motive to lie which could constitute a prosecutorial risk.

According to the report, Willey was placed on administrative leave after the Columbian contacted the sheriffs department on 2 July. She was fired on 17 July, before the report was completed, and just before the Columbian published its story.

The report also states Willeys belief that the photo of her in a Proud Boys sweatshirt was given to the Columbian by her former boyfriend, and active Proud Boy member, Graham Jorgensen.

Jorgensen has been a regular participant in rallies organized by the Clark county-based Patriot Prayer group, whose events have included Proud Boys, and which have frequently culminated in violence.

Other law enforcement agencies have discovered Proud Boys in their midst and responded in a similar manner. A month after Willey was fired, Brian Green, a patrol deputy in Louisiana, was also let go after social media posts revealed his allegiance to the group.

Willey and Jorgensen could not be reached for comment.

In Clark county, Proud Boys have been integral to the Patriot Prayer movement, which organizes rightwing street marches and rallies in Portland, Seattle, Vancouver and other cities in the Pacific north-west.

Asked about the apparent high level of Proud Boy activity and rightwing organizing in Clark county, McCabe said: I think both as an agency and me, personally, we worry about that.

Anybody who has watched the news recently can see that the United States appears divided. Any time you are dealing with groups who are espousing hate, its certainly a concern for law enforcement, he added.

McCabe pointed to a joint statement by Atkins and the Clark county prosecuting attorney Tony Golik in the wake of reporting on Willeys firing.

In that statement, the men said in part: We reject hate, bigotry, harassment, violence or the inciting of violence, and all actions intended to harm or intimidate others.

The FBI did not directly address the designation or the briefing in response to specific email questions, but did say that while the FBI does not and will not police ideology, the agency regularly assesses intelligence regarding possible threats and works closely to share that information with our federal, state and local law enforcement partners.


Wonder if this makes actual grounds for getting McInnes deported.
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FBl
11/19/18 4:25:37 PM
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Yes, yes we do.
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Doom_Art
11/19/18 4:26:01 PM
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Good
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VipaGTS
11/19/18 4:26:43 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Good

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Ray_Dorset
11/19/18 4:27:10 PM
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Stewman_Magoo
11/19/18 4:28:19 PM
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Canada doesn't want McInnes. Just send him to Guantanamo whenever a PB kills somebody.
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Phantom_Nook
11/19/18 4:30:57 PM
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This will make republicans very upset.
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LightningAce11
11/19/18 4:31:24 PM
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inb4antifadeflection.
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ultimate reaver
11/19/18 4:31:50 PM
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get rid of em
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Zikten
11/19/18 4:32:24 PM
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good

lock all proud boys and antifa up
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FursonaNonGrata
11/19/18 4:32:46 PM
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Not that cops will actually do anything about this new classification. Most of them probably support the proud boys.
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RickyTheBAWSE
11/19/18 4:41:45 PM
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Proud Boys?

moar liek "Shameful Cucks"
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D-Lo_BrownTown
11/19/18 4:43:18 PM
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This is a good thing but the usual suspects are still going to complain for some reason.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
11/19/18 4:43:54 PM
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@Jorep

Womp womp...
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Bio1590
11/19/18 4:44:34 PM
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Stewman_Magoo posted...
Canada doesn't want McInnes. Just send him to Guantanamo whenever a PB kills somebody.

Yeah, personally I wouldn't want him here unless it meant he was going to prison

But I do think if there's legal grounds to deport him then they should.
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BLAKUboy
11/19/18 4:45:00 PM
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Just fucking say "terrorists" and be done with it.
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RiderofHogs
11/19/18 4:46:01 PM
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
This is a good thing but the usual suspects are still going to complain for some reason.

Because the violent ones on the other side get the usual free pass.
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Rika_Furude
11/19/18 4:46:35 PM
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Never heard of them, what have they done
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Lordgold666
11/19/18 4:52:08 PM
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Zikten posted...
good

lock all proud boys and antifa up

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Zikten
11/19/18 4:54:13 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Never heard of them, what have they done

they are white supremacists that go around beating people up

basically the far right version of Antifa
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Bio1590
11/19/18 4:59:38 PM
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Goats posted...
Weren't these the guys that were setting up sniper's nests the night before legitimate protest slowpoke?

Yes

E: No wait that might have been Patriot Prayer.

RiderofHogs posted...
D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
This is a good thing but the usual suspects are still going to complain for some reason.

Because the violent ones on the other side get the usual free pass.

Antifa has already been classified by the FBI.

Try again.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/19/18 5:53:47 PM
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Ray_Dorset posted...
VipaGTS posted...
Doom_Art posted...
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SchoolForAnts
11/19/18 5:55:57 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
Goats posted...
Weren't these the guys that were setting up sniper's nests the night before legitimate protest slowpoke?

Yes

E: No wait that might have been Patriot Prayer.

RiderofHogs posted...
D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
This is a good thing but the usual suspects are still going to complain for some reason.

Because the violent ones on the other side get the usual free pass.

Antifa has already been classified by the FBI.

Try again.


Patriot prayer... proud boys... same shit, different name. The latter are the enforcers of the former
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DarkTransient
11/19/18 5:58:04 PM
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RiderofHogs posted...
D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
This is a good thing but the usual suspects are still going to complain for some reason.

Because the violent ones on the other side get the usual free pass.


How enforcement will go remains to be seen, but Antifa have been declared a domestic terrorist group too.
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__Cam__
11/19/18 6:00:17 PM
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It amazes me how these extreme far-right groups lack any sense of self awareness.
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Villain
11/19/18 6:12:23 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
@Jorep

Womp womp...

Does that guy shit up this place too?
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Proto_Spark
11/19/18 6:17:09 PM
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So, pretty Out of the loop, whats the Proud Boys? Some kinda Trump-crap?

I haven't heard of McInnes since he was with the Rebel
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ImTheMacheteGuy
11/19/18 6:28:52 PM
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Villain posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Jorep

Womp womp...

Does that guy shit up this place too?


He had been for a little bit but was suspended a while back. I knew him on another board like a year or more before I saw him here and I never would have expected him to have views as extreme as he has expressed here. It's unfortunate. Seeing his posts being so contrasting to how chill he was on the other board and on discord was pretty jarring. Like interacting with 2 different people.
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spudger
11/19/18 6:29:51 PM
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Ray_Dorset posted...
VipaGTS posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Good

This

Remember all the trumpeters on CE crying in support of these guys just a week ago?
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Ozai_Was_Right
11/19/18 6:37:07 PM
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sondast
11/19/18 6:57:37 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Never heard of them, what have they done

Their leader shoved a dildo up his ass on live tv.
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