Current Events > Top Christian wedding magazine refused to put gays in it. It then shuts down.

Topic List
Page List: 1
Shopaholic163
11/19/18 8:21:12 PM
#1:


An Australian bridal magazine is shutting down after standing by a controversial decision not to feature same-sex couples.

https://wapo.st/2qUd4uR
---
Lotus - the flower that survives and thrives
... Copied to Clipboard!
DD Divine
11/19/18 8:22:30 PM
#2:


Whomp whomp
---
while driving yesterday I saw a banana peel in the road and I instinctively swerved to miss it, thanks a lot Mario Kart.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Shopaholic163
11/19/18 8:23:09 PM
#3:


The advertisers no longer wanted to work with embarrassing, archaic people.

The free market and capitalism ftw.
---
Lotus - the flower that survives and thrives
... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy
11/19/18 8:23:59 PM
#4:


Just for posterity, the magazine's name was "White".
---
Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera
https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png
... Copied to Clipboard!
Shopaholic163
11/19/18 8:24:49 PM
#5:


BLAKUboy posted...
Just for posterity, the magazine's name was "White".

Terrible name.
---
Lotus - the flower that survives and thrives
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212
11/19/18 8:25:06 PM
#6:


Good, free market at work
---
I don't know my gimmick
"Does that sound reasonable to you?"
... Copied to Clipboard!
HenryAllbright
11/19/18 8:26:22 PM
#7:


I'm surprised if any magazine can survive in this day and age, especially a magazine about weddings lol.

I also don't like the whole "if you're not with us, you're against us" mentality. Just because a company chooses to design their product for the straight people demographic doesn't mean that they're against gays.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Fate1021
11/19/18 8:26:49 PM
#8:


It's 2018 and they thought it would be a good idea to exclude gays? Stupid move.
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212
11/19/18 8:27:43 PM
#9:


HenryAllbright posted...


I also don't like the whole "if you're not with us, you're against us" mentality. Just because a company chooses to design their product for the straight people demographic doesn't mean that they're against gays.


This is true as well.
---
I don't know my gimmick
"Does that sound reasonable to you?"
... Copied to Clipboard!
HenryAllbright
11/19/18 8:29:05 PM
#10:


Fate1021 posted...
It's 2018 and they thought it would be a good idea to exclude gays? Stupid move.


Nothing wrong with having a specific demographic. And Im as pro gay rights and all that as you can get.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Fate1021
11/19/18 8:31:38 PM
#11:


HenryAllbright posted...
Fate1021 posted...
It's 2018 and they thought it would be a good idea to exclude gays? Stupid move.


Nothing wrong with having a specific demographic. And Im as pro gay rights and all that as you can get.

It's still a dumb move.

Did they really think that excluding a group of people would help them when other competing magazines chose to include every type of couple?

They set themselves up for failure.
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
Megaman50100
11/19/18 8:32:12 PM
#12:


Don't go woke, still go broke?
---
move all remaining groundhog mercenaries to the front lines. Have sheep troopers squadrons A and B flank the cows. They're using DC-17 hoof blasters.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212
11/19/18 8:35:34 PM
#13:


Fate1021 posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
Fate1021 posted...
It's 2018 and they thought it would be a good idea to exclude gays? Stupid move.


Nothing wrong with having a specific demographic. And Im as pro gay rights and all that as you can get.

It's still a dumb move.

Did they really think that excluding a group of people would help them when other competing magazines chose to include every type of couple?

They set themselves up for failure.


Gee I guess magazines that targets particular racial demographics should also fail on the basis it doesnt include every type of race.
---
I don't know my gimmick
"Does that sound reasonable to you?"
... Copied to Clipboard!
hotcegaI
11/19/18 8:36:15 PM
#14:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77214782

ollie89, ya already posted it on the EternalMelodies account :)
... Copied to Clipboard!
HenryAllbright
11/19/18 8:37:34 PM
#15:


Fate1021 posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
Fate1021 posted...
It's 2018 and they thought it would be a good idea to exclude gays? Stupid move.


Nothing wrong with having a specific demographic. And Im as pro gay rights and all that as you can get.

It's still a dumb move.

Did they really think that excluding a group of people would help them when other competing magazines chose to include every type of couple?

They set themselves up for failure.


Maybe they felt the gay wedding reading material market was already saturated. Maybe they felt they didn't have people on staff who knew enough about gay weddings to write articles and stuff. Maybe they thought the demographic was too niche.

Either way, the advertisers reacted as if this was suddenly an anti-gay company they are dealing with. Either their decision was too rash, or they were spot on knowing that people will make knee-jerk judgments about the magazine and boycott their product.
... Copied to Clipboard!
ImmatureContent
11/19/18 8:39:47 PM
#16:


There is something wrong with targeting a certain demographic if that demographic is based in bigotry. By appealing to it, you are essentially endorsing it. There is nothing fundamentally different between a gay wedding and a straight one. If the magazine was about something that appealed exclusively to straight people, fine. Weddings are not an example of such a thing.
---
NinjaMaster
... Copied to Clipboard!
HenryAllbright
11/19/18 8:49:08 PM
#17:


ImmatureContent posted...
There is something wrong with targeting a certain demographic if that demographic is based in bigotry. By appealing to it, you are essentially endorsing it. There is nothing fundamentally different between a gay wedding and a straight one. If the magazine was about something that appealed exclusively to straight people, fine. Weddings are not an example of such a thing.


Straight people are based in bigotry? Explain.
... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude
11/19/18 8:52:55 PM
#18:


Kazi1212 posted...
Fate1021 posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
Fate1021 posted...
It's 2018 and they thought it would be a good idea to exclude gays? Stupid move.


Nothing wrong with having a specific demographic. And Im as pro gay rights and all that as you can get.

It's still a dumb move.

Did they really think that excluding a group of people would help them when other competing magazines chose to include every type of couple?

They set themselves up for failure.


Gee I guess magazines that targets particular racial demographics should also fail on the basis it doesnt include every type of race.


you're trying to compare a bridal magazine to ebony? lmao
---
If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me
... Copied to Clipboard!
ImmatureContent
11/19/18 8:53:15 PM
#19:


HenryAllbright posted...
ImmatureContent posted...
There is something wrong with targeting a certain demographic if that demographic is based in bigotry. By appealing to it, you are essentially endorsing it. There is nothing fundamentally different between a gay wedding and a straight one. If the magazine was about something that appealed exclusively to straight people, fine. Weddings are not an example of such a thing.


Straight people are based in bigotry? Explain.

The sort of straight people that enjoy your magazine because it excludes gay couples is where the bigotry comes in. A straight person that has no problem with homosexuality should not have any reason to complain about a gay couple being in the magazine. A straight person can still get ideas for their wedding from a gay wedding. A straight person can still enjoy reading about a loving relationship between two people regardless of their sexual orientation. The only reason to exclude gay marriage is to appeal to the demographic that has a problem with homosexuality.
---
NinjaMaster
... Copied to Clipboard!
HenryAllbright
11/19/18 8:53:20 PM
#20:


There are magazines dedicated to gay people...are those bigoted against straight people? Or are we just gonna pretend that everything is a one way street?

The lesson society had to learn when it came to accepting gay people was that it's best to be tolerant and accepting of other people. We are straying from those lessons because we got so caught up in specific goals that we've forgotten what is really important and why. I hope we can improve.
... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy
11/19/18 8:55:15 PM
#21:


The magazine is free to decide who can and can't be featured within its pages and advertisers can choose who they will or won't allow to do business with. Everyone is getting exactly what they wanted.
---
Who is? I am!
... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude
11/19/18 8:55:46 PM
#22:


HenryAllbright posted...
There are magazines dedicated to gay people...are those bigoted against straight people? Or are we just gonna pretend that everything is a one way street?

The lesson society had to learn when it came to accepting gay people was that it's best to be tolerant and accepting of other people. We are straying from those lessons because we got so caught up in specific goals that we've forgotten what is really important and why. I hope we can improve.


"tolerate our intolerance"

yeah, no
---
If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me
... Copied to Clipboard!
HenryAllbright
11/19/18 8:55:58 PM
#23:


ImmatureContent posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
ImmatureContent posted...
There is something wrong with targeting a certain demographic if that demographic is based in bigotry. By appealing to it, you are essentially endorsing it. There is nothing fundamentally different between a gay wedding and a straight one. If the magazine was about something that appealed exclusively to straight people, fine. Weddings are not an example of such a thing.


Straight people are based in bigotry? Explain.

The sort of straight people that enjoy your magazine because it excludes gay couples is where the bigotry comes in. A straight person that has no problem with homosexuality should not have any reason to complain about a gay couple being in the magazine. A straight person can still get ideas for their wedding from a gay wedding. A straight person can still enjoy reading about a loving relationship between two people regardless of their sexual orientation. The only reason to exclude gay marriage is to appeal to the demographic that has a problem with homosexuality.


Do you realize that by arguing that it doesn't matter if the weddings in a magazine are gay or straight you are diminishing any argument for why either or should be included in the first place?
... Copied to Clipboard!
ZannoL
11/19/18 8:56:06 PM
#24:


FrisbeeDude posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Fate1021 posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
Fate1021 posted...
It's 2018 and they thought it would be a good idea to exclude gays? Stupid move.


Nothing wrong with having a specific demographic. And Im as pro gay rights and all that as you can get.

It's still a dumb move.

Did they really think that excluding a group of people would help them when other competing magazines chose to include every type of couple?

They set themselves up for failure.


Gee I guess magazines that targets particular racial demographics should also fail on the basis it doesnt include every type of race.


you're trying to compare a bridal magazine to ebony? lmao
... Copied to Clipboard!
HenryAllbright
11/19/18 8:56:45 PM
#25:


FrisbeeDude posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
There are magazines dedicated to gay people...are those bigoted against straight people? Or are we just gonna pretend that everything is a one way street?

The lesson society had to learn when it came to accepting gay people was that it's best to be tolerant and accepting of other people. We are straying from those lessons because we got so caught up in specific goals that we've forgotten what is really important and why. I hope we can improve.


"tolerate our intolerance"

yeah, no


But it's not intolerance. You should learn what that word means.
... Copied to Clipboard!
ImmatureContent
11/19/18 9:00:41 PM
#26:


HenryAllbright posted...
There are magazines dedicated to gay people...are those bigoted against straight people? Or are we just gonna pretend that everything is a one way street?

The lesson society had to learn when it came to accepting gay people was that it's best to be tolerant and accepting of other people. We are straying from those lessons because we got so caught up in specific goals that we've forgotten what is really important and why. I hope we can improve.

There is a difference between focusing on a certain thing and excluding a particular thing. If someone makes a magazine about teenagers, it is not bigotry just because it doesn't talk about senior citizens. If someone makes a magazine about rap, but never mentions a white rapper, that would be different.
---
NinjaMaster
... Copied to Clipboard!
HenryAllbright
11/19/18 9:02:54 PM
#27:


ImmatureContent posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
There are magazines dedicated to gay people...are those bigoted against straight people? Or are we just gonna pretend that everything is a one way street?

The lesson society had to learn when it came to accepting gay people was that it's best to be tolerant and accepting of other people. We are straying from those lessons because we got so caught up in specific goals that we've forgotten what is really important and why. I hope we can improve.

There is a difference between focusing on a certain thing and excluding a particular thing. If someone makes a magazine about teenagers, it is not bigotry just because it doesn't talk about senior citizens. If someone makes a magazine about rap, but never mentions a white rapper, that would be different.


What if they make a magazine about being a gay teenager? By your definition, that's bigotry too. And again, I would disagree.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212
11/19/18 9:04:36 PM
#28:


ImmatureContent posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
There are magazines dedicated to gay people...are those bigoted against straight people? Or are we just gonna pretend that everything is a one way street?

The lesson society had to learn when it came to accepting gay people was that it's best to be tolerant and accepting of other people. We are straying from those lessons because we got so caught up in specific goals that we've forgotten what is really important and why. I hope we can improve.

There is a difference between focusing on a certain thing and excluding a particular thing. If someone makes a magazine about teenagers, it is not bigotry just because it doesn't talk about senior citizens. If someone makes a magazine about rap, but never mentions a white rapper, that would be different.


Unless it was specifically about minority rappers. This is a Christian oriented magazine, it doesnt seem absurd they would only present straight couples given their audience believes marriage is between a man and woman. So it doesnt seem unreasonable to me from that perspective
---
I don't know my gimmick
"Does that sound reasonable to you?"
... Copied to Clipboard!
KirbyMagicWand
11/19/18 9:05:56 PM
#29:


It's getting harder and harder for dumb-ass religious nuts to be avowed religious nuts.

I'm loving it :D
---
Black 2 FC: 3654-8394-0937
... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess
11/19/18 9:08:35 PM
#30:


Fate1021 posted...
It's 2018 and they thought it would be a good idea to exclude gays? Stupid move.

The Muslim magazine counterpart "The Message" seems to be going strong. But we only care about burning the more tolerant of the two in todays society
---
To err is human
To arr is pirate
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212
11/19/18 9:09:56 PM
#31:


Bloodychess posted...
Fate1021 posted...
It's 2018 and they thought it would be a good idea to exclude gays? Stupid move.

The Muslim magazine counterpart "The Message" seems to be going strong. But we only care about burning the more tolerant of the two in todays society


Lol
---
I don't know my gimmick
"Does that sound reasonable to you?"
... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy
11/19/18 9:13:05 PM
#32:


Bloodychess posted...
Fate1021 posted...
It's 2018 and they thought it would be a good idea to exclude gays? Stupid move.

The Muslim magazine counterpart "The Message" seems to be going strong. But we only care about burning the more tolerant of the two in todays society

Not sure what that has to do with anything. Does White bill itself as a magazine for Christians? Because the article says that the magazine is about love and relationships. The couple isn't even quoted as using their religion as a reason for excluding homosexual relationships from their pages.
---
Who is? I am!
... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess
11/19/18 9:15:42 PM
#33:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Bloodychess posted...
Fate1021 posted...
It's 2018 and they thought it would be a good idea to exclude gays? Stupid move.

The Muslim magazine counterpart "The Message" seems to be going strong. But we only care about burning the more tolerant of the two in todays society

Not sure what that has to do with anything. Does White bill itself as a magazine for Christians? Because the article says that the magazine is about love and relationships. The couple isn't even quoted as using their religion as a reason for excluding homosexual relationships from their pages.

Looks like i fell for TCs fake news then
---
To err is human
To arr is pirate
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212
11/19/18 9:17:47 PM
#34:


Bloodychess posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Bloodychess posted...
Fate1021 posted...
It's 2018 and they thought it would be a good idea to exclude gays? Stupid move.

The Muslim magazine counterpart "The Message" seems to be going strong. But we only care about burning the more tolerant of the two in todays society

Not sure what that has to do with anything. Does White bill itself as a magazine for Christians? Because the article says that the magazine is about love and relationships. The couple isn't even quoted as using their religion as a reason for excluding homosexual relationships from their pages.

Looks like i fell for TCs fake news then


Welp, at least we know what user failed at reading comprehension here
---
I don't know my gimmick
"Does that sound reasonable to you?"
... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess
11/19/18 9:21:36 PM
#35:


Kazi1212 posted...
Bloodychess posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Bloodychess posted...
Fate1021 posted...
It's 2018 and they thought it would be a good idea to exclude gays? Stupid move.

The Muslim magazine counterpart "The Message" seems to be going strong. But we only care about burning the more tolerant of the two in todays society

Not sure what that has to do with anything. Does White bill itself as a magazine for Christians? Because the article says that the magazine is about love and relationships. The couple isn't even quoted as using their religion as a reason for excluding homosexual relationships from their pages.

Looks like i fell for TCs fake news then


Welp, at least we know what user failed at reading comprehension here

There is certain delicious irony when you are accused of not having reading comprehension for admitting you only read the OP

Project less, its a bad look

---
To err is human
To arr is pirate
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212
11/19/18 9:24:50 PM
#36:


Bloodychess posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Bloodychess posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Bloodychess posted...
Fate1021 posted...
It's 2018 and they thought it would be a good idea to exclude gays? Stupid move.

The Muslim magazine counterpart "The Message" seems to be going strong. But we only care about burning the more tolerant of the two in todays society

Not sure what that has to do with anything. Does White bill itself as a magazine for Christians? Because the article says that the magazine is about love and relationships. The couple isn't even quoted as using their religion as a reason for excluding homosexual relationships from their pages.

Looks like i fell for TCs fake news then


Welp, at least we know what user failed at reading comprehension here

There is certain delicious irony when you are accused of not having reading comprehension for admitting you only read the OP

Project less, its a bad look


I was meaning good boy... it literally says in the topic title its a Christian magazine
---
I don't know my gimmick
"Does that sound reasonable to you?"
... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess
11/19/18 9:29:05 PM
#37:


Imma take this L and walk away
---
To err is human
To arr is pirate
... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy
11/19/18 10:06:30 PM
#38:


Kazi1212 posted...
Bloodychess posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Bloodychess posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Bloodychess posted...
Fate1021 posted...
It's 2018 and they thought it would be a good idea to exclude gays? Stupid move.

The Muslim magazine counterpart "The Message" seems to be going strong. But we only care about burning the more tolerant of the two in todays society

Not sure what that has to do with anything. Does White bill itself as a magazine for Christians? Because the article says that the magazine is about love and relationships. The couple isn't even quoted as using their religion as a reason for excluding homosexual relationships from their pages.

Looks like i fell for TCs fake news then


Welp, at least we know what user failed at reading comprehension here

There is certain delicious irony when you are accused of not having reading comprehension for admitting you only read the OP

Project less, its a bad look


I was meaning good boy... it literally says in the topic title its a Christian magazine

Topic titles don't override content. There's nothing in the supporting text that says its a Christian magazine, other than the topic title.
---
Who is? I am!
... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2
11/19/18 10:08:01 PM
#39:


HenryAllbright posted...
I'm surprised if any magazine can survive in this day and age, especially a magazine about weddings lol.

I also don't like the whole "if you're not with us, you're against us" mentality. Just because a company chooses to design their product for the straight people demographic doesn't mean that they're against gays.


it's not like gay people have completely different weddings than straight people. all they have to do is change the shit on the cake
---
I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen...
... Copied to Clipboard!
dreamvoid
11/19/18 10:12:52 PM
#40:


Kazi1212 posted...
Bloodychess posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Bloodychess posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Bloodychess posted...
Fate1021 posted...
It's 2018 and they thought it would be a good idea to exclude gays? Stupid move.

The Muslim magazine counterpart "The Message" seems to be going strong. But we only care about burning the more tolerant of the two in todays society

Not sure what that has to do with anything. Does White bill itself as a magazine for Christians? Because the article says that the magazine is about love and relationships. The couple isn't even quoted as using their religion as a reason for excluding homosexual relationships from their pages.

Looks like i fell for TCs fake news then


Welp, at least we know what user failed at reading comprehension here

There is certain delicious irony when you are accused of not having reading comprehension for admitting you only read the OP

Project less, its a bad look


I was meaning good boy... it literally says in the topic title its a Christian magazine

his post had nothing to do with the title. it looks like the failure is on your part.
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
LinksLiege
11/19/18 10:32:13 PM
#41:


Iunno why I'm irritated by the magazine creators' weak-ass arguments for excluding gays so much.

They're not fooling anybody - they're pieces of shit, but their piddling excuses make them spineless wimps on top of that. At least being honest about their feelings toward gay people would mean a conversation can happen - they'd still be pieces of shit, but they're not hiding away from it.
---
This is LinksLiege's signature. It is fantastic.
... Copied to Clipboard!
HenryAllbright
11/19/18 10:38:03 PM
#42:


thronedfire2 posted...
HenryAllbright posted...
I'm surprised if any magazine can survive in this day and age, especially a magazine about weddings lol.

I also don't like the whole "if you're not with us, you're against us" mentality. Just because a company chooses to design their product for the straight people demographic doesn't mean that they're against gays.


it's not like gay people have completely different weddings than straight people. all they have to do is change the shit on the cake


So then there's no problem with them not featuring gay couples in their magazine? Sounds like gay people should still be able to enjoy reading and get wedding ideas from this magazine even if all the pictures and stories are from straight couples based on what you're saying.

I am not saying you are wrong, just pointing out that these arguments have to go both ways.
... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent
11/21/18 4:17:16 PM
#43:


I don't get how people can side with the magazine on this one.

Advertisers pulled out because they don't want to be connected to what's seen as bigotry.

That's free market, who opposes that?
---
^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg
... Copied to Clipboard!
GunmaN1905
11/21/18 4:19:11 PM
#44:


Christianity doesn't support homosexual interaction.
I don't get what's the issue here?
Why do gay people even want to be in a Christian magazine if Christianity sees homosexuality as mental illness?
... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo
11/21/18 4:21:20 PM
#45:


Megaman50100 posted...
Don't go woke, still go broke?

Ugh Clay Travis is such a loser
... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY
11/21/18 4:23:10 PM
#46:


I believe that some christianity groups are still against gay men and lesbian women, sounds like this magazine was one of those bigoted groups.
---
doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List
Page List: 1