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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/22/hillary-clinton-europe-must-curb-immigration-stop-populists-trump-brexit

Europe must get a handle on immigration to combat a growing threat from rightwing populists, Hillary Clinton has said, calling on the continents leaders to send out a stronger signal showing they are not going to be able to continue provide refuge and support.

In an interview with the Guardian, the former Democratic presidential candidate praised the generosity shown by the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, but suggested immigration was inflaming voters and contributed to the election of Donald Trump and Britains vote to leave the EU.

I think Europe needs to get a handle on migration because that is what lit the flame, Clinton said, speaking as part of a series of interviews with senior centrist political figures about the rise of populists, particularly on the right, in Europe and the Americas.

I admire the very generous and compassionate approaches that were taken particularly by leaders like Angela Merkel, but I think it is fair to say Europe has done its part, and must send a very clear message we are not going to be able to continue provide refuge and support because if we dont deal with the migration issue it will continue to roil the body politic.

Clintons remarks are likely to prove controversial across Europe, which has struggled to form a unified position ever since more than 1 million migrants and refugees arrived in the EU in 2015.

While some countries who have borne the brunt, such as Germany, Italy and Greece, have argued for the burden to be shared more evenly, some, particularly in central and eastern Europe, have rejected demands to take in refugees.

Migration numbers have fallen sharply since 2015, while a series of initiatives have been tabled, from a 10,000-member European border and coastguard agency to an overhaul of EU asylum procedures.

Clinton was one of three heavyweights of the centre-left interviewed by the Guardian to better understand why their brand of politics appears to be failing. All three have seen their countries upended by political events that to some degree can be explained by the success of rightwing populism.

The other two interviewees, Tony Blair and Matteo Renzi, agreed that the migration issue had posed significant problems for centrist politics.

Youve got to deal with the legitimate grievances and answer them, which is why today in Europe you cannot possibly stand for election unless youve got a strong position on immigration because people are worried about it, Blair said. Youve got to answer those problems. If you dont answer them then you leave a large space into which the populists can march.

Clinton urged forces opposed to rightwing populism in Europe and the US not to neglect the concerns about race and identity issues that she says were behind her losing key votes in 2016. She accused Trump of exploiting the issue in the election contest and in office.

The use of immigrants as a political device and as a symbol of government gone wrong, of attacks on ones heritage, ones identity, ones national unity has been very much exploited by the current administration here, she said.

There are solutions to migration that do not require clamping down on the press, on your political opponents and trying to suborn the judiciary, or seeking financial and political help from Russia to support your political parties and movements.

Brexit, described by Clinton as the biggest act of national economic self-harm in modern history, was largely about immigration, she said.

Bad take, imo
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I do think Germany and Europe utterly bungled the refugee thing, but while Clinton and the others in the article make a few good points, this is kinda a bad take lol
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I mean they should curb immigration. I don't get why Europe has to take all these people in
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Well, yeah.
That's pretty obvious
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The problem is that the right wing is that they're crazy, so we assume everything they stand for is crazy (and it mostly is), but immigration is a far more complex issue than the holding-hands kumbaya side of the left wing give it credit, and the more moderate leftists just don't care one way or another.
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MakoReizei posted...

I mean they should curb immigration. I don't get why Europe has to take all these people in

Progress, of course.
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Attitudes like this are why people don't want Pelosi or Schumer.
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Uncle Choad posted...

MakoReizei posted...

I mean they should curb immigration. I don't get why Europe has to take all these people in

Progress, of course.

But both of you guys are right wingers and do not want it to be combated.
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Center left sells out ordinary people to big business

Right wing exploits this but lives big biz, obviously scapegoats immigrants

Center left can't admit this to themselves or others, also scapegoats immigrants but in gentler tones

See also; their reactions to Obama blowing up an American teenager vs trump supporting Saudi Arabia after their murder of american resident
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If anyone knows how to stop right wingers from getting into power it's Hillary. Her expertise really helped in 2016.
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tl;dr
"We agree, but want to blame the other side anyway"

Bump
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Balrog0 posted...

Center left sells out ordinary people to big business

Right wing exploits this but lives big biz, obviously scapegoats immigrants

Center left can't admit this to themselves or others, also scapegoats immigrants but in gentler tones

See also; their reactions to Obama blowing up an American teenager vs trump supporting Saudi Arabia after their murder of american resident

ITP - a Muslim nation killing a non-American Muslim radical must he met with the same derision as the President of the United States killing an American citizen with an illegal drone strike.
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Not what I said, also good job at 'non american Muslim radical' I can tell you're really unbiased here Mr. 'My wife divorced me cuz Obama Care'
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Balrog0 posted...

Not what I said, also good job at 'non american Muslim radical' I can tell you're really unbiased here Mr. 'My wife divorced me cuz Obama Care'

Was he an American citizen or no?

Did he defend radical Islam or no?
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Very besides the point, here.
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