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s0nicfan
11/23/18 2:01:40 PM
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46308586

Almost 3,000 Central American migrants have arrived in the Mexican border city of Tijuana after crossing Mexico and parts of Central America. More than 2,750 have sought refuge in a shelter set up by the mayor's office.

The town's mayor has said he expects the number of migrants in the city to reach 10,000 in the coming weeks.


I was under the impression that the vast majority of the caravan wouldn't make it through Mexico, but here we are. Regardless of whether you support the caravan or not, I can't foresee a future that doesn't lead to violence if we legitimately end up with thousands of people at the border demanding access at once in a town that already wants them gone.
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D-Lo_BrownTown
11/23/18 2:02:58 PM
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Remember when they weren't gonna reach the US until January?
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FLUFFYGERM
11/23/18 2:04:44 PM
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Remember when far-left CEmen swore that the caravan was just 500 people or w/e?
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King_Hellebuyck
11/23/18 2:05:13 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
Remember when far-left CEmen swore that the caravan was just 500 people or w/e?

No
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sktgamer_13dude
11/23/18 2:05:18 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
Remember when far-left CEmen swore that the caravan was just 500 people or w/e?

No because that never happened.
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ROBANN_88
11/23/18 2:06:18 PM
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we're about to see how you handle a small taste of what europe has been going through since atleast 2015.
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FLUFFYGERM
11/23/18 2:07:43 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Remember when far-left CEmen swore that the caravan was just 500 people or w/e?

No because that never happened.


I could've sworn @Doom_Art posted about how it's just 500 people or 700 people or something.
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sktgamer_13dude
11/23/18 2:08:15 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Remember when far-left CEmen swore that the caravan was just 500 people or w/e?

No because that never happened.


I could've sworn @Doom_Art posted about how it's just 500 people or 700 people or something.

Well youre wrong.
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s0nicfan
11/23/18 2:09:10 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
we're about to see how you handle a small taste of what europe has been going through since atleast 2015.


The US should just take every single migrant and transport them (at our expense) to the US-Canada border and help them all across. Clearly the US is more dangerous and less welcoming for these migrants than Canada, and as the superior country they shouldn't have any issues with us ignoring their sovereignty to help some migrants find a better life. Everyone wins: the migrants make it to a wealthy country, the US doesn't have to support them, and Canada gets to put their money where their mouth is with regard to how the US should be treating them.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/23/18 2:09:40 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Remember when far-left CEmen swore that the caravan was just 500 people or w/e?

No because that never happened.


I could've sworn Doom_Art posted about how it's just 500 people or 700 people or something.

I couldve sworn is Proudclad for Im making this up
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FLUFFYGERM
11/23/18 2:10:15 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
ROBANN_88 posted...
we're about to see how you handle a small taste of what europe has been going through since atleast 2015.


The US should just take every single migrant and transport them (at our expense) to the US-Canada border and help them all across. Clearly the US is more dangerous and less welcoming for these migrants than Canada, and as the superior country they shouldn't have any issues with us ignoring their sovereignty to help some migrants find a better life. Everyone wins: the migrants make it to a wealthy country, the US doesn't have to support them, and Canada gets to put their money where their mouth is with regard to how the US should be treating them.


Yeah, to be honest that makes a lot of sense. Canadians always say Canada is the better country, America is awful and expensive, Americans are hateful for not wanting an influx of refugees slamming into our southern border all at once, etc. Canada sounds like the right place for the caravan.
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The Great Muta 22
11/23/18 2:10:31 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
we're about to see how you handle a small taste of what europe has been going through since atleast 2015.


A small taste is even overstating it when you look at the actual numbers. To compare the two situations is entirely disingenuous.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
11/23/18 2:10:53 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Remember when far-left CEmen swore that the caravan was just 500 people or w/e?

No because that never happened.

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eggcorn
11/23/18 2:11:15 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
ROBANN_88 posted...
we're about to see how you handle a small taste of what europe has been going through since atleast 2015.


The US should just take every single migrant and transport them (at our expense) to the US-Canada border and help them all across. Clearly the US is more dangerous and less welcoming for these migrants than Canada, and as the superior country they shouldn't have any issues with us ignoring their sovereignty to help some migrants find a better life. Everyone wins: the migrants make it to a wealthy country, the US doesn't have to support them, and Canada gets to put their money where their mouth is with regard to how the US should be treating them.

not bad.
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AmericaTheBrave
11/23/18 2:11:31 PM
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Can I ask what's wrong with giving these migrants asylum?
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EscapeFromHell
11/23/18 2:11:35 PM
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Meh, let them in. If they can find a place to live and get jobs, they'll be adding to the economy. (Apparently there are plenty of jobs available and unemployment is super low, right? So what's the problem? Don't answer that; I don't care.)
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Bio1590
11/23/18 2:11:58 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
at once in a town that already wants them gone.

But do they?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/21/world/americas/mexican-caravan-tijuana-border-.html

In 2016 and 2017, thousands of Haitians arrived after traveling all the way from Brazil. At one point, the city placed 6,000 Haitians in 32 different shelters, Mr. Palencia said.

Since then, some 3,500 Haitians have settled in Tijuana, and migration officials have been quick to cite their integration as a model for the caravan.

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Silver Bearings
11/23/18 2:12:16 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
transport them (at our expense)

s0nicfan posted...
the US doesn't have to support them

Wut?
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AlephZero
11/23/18 2:12:24 PM
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i was told this news story would fade into obscurity after midterms because it was nothing more than an alt right talking point
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sktgamer_13dude
11/23/18 2:12:56 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
at once in a town that already wants them gone.

But do they?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/21/world/americas/mexican-caravan-tijuana-border-.html

In 2016 and 2017, thousands of Haitians arrived after traveling all the way from Brazil. At one point, the city placed 6,000 Haitians in 32 different shelters, Mr. Palencia said.

Since then, some 3,500 Haitians have settled in Tijuana, and migration officials have been quick to cite their integration as a model for the caravan.

Its sonicfan. Not surprised hes talking out of his ass.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
11/23/18 2:13:08 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
we're about to see how you handle a small taste of what europe has been going through since atleast 2015.


imo they should all be given housing in trump's properties and should be allowed to live in them rent free for the rest of their lives at the personal expense of trump himself.
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The Great Muta 22
11/23/18 2:14:03 PM
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AlephZero posted...
i was told this news story would fade into obscurity after midterms because it was nothing more than an alt right talking point


And it mostly has
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eggcorn
11/23/18 2:14:19 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
No because that never happened.

sktgamer_13dude posted...
Well youre wrong.

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Remember when far-left CEmen swore that the caravan was just 500 people or w/e?

No because that never happened.

Are you guys like a liberal hive mind or do you just track every single post? I mean how do you know it wasn't said?
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hockeybub89
11/23/18 2:15:12 PM
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ROBANN_88
11/23/18 2:17:58 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
ROBANN_88 posted...
we're about to see how you handle a small taste of what europe has been going through since atleast 2015.


imo they should all be given housing in trump's properties and should be allowed to live in them rent free for the rest of their lives at the personal expense of trump himself.


it would be more fitting that they'd live at the house of some pro-Open Borders activist.
let those who want them to come in take care of the bill.
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King_Hellebuyck
11/23/18 2:18:08 PM
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eggcorn posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
No because that never happened.

sktgamer_13dude posted...
Well youre wrong.

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Remember when far-left CEmen swore that the caravan was just 500 people or w/e?

No because that never happened.

Are you guys like a liberal hive mind or do you just track every single post? I mean how do you know it wasn't said?

Because Proudclad makes up shit like this all the time
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sktgamer_13dude
11/23/18 2:21:02 PM
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eggcorn posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
No because that never happened.

sktgamer_13dude posted...
Well youre wrong.

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Remember when far-left CEmen swore that the caravan was just 500 people or w/e?

No because that never happened.

Are you guys like a liberal hive mind or do you just track every single post? I mean how do you know it wasn't said?

Prove it then. Youre the one making the claim that it happened.
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Bio1590
11/23/18 2:21:37 PM
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eggcorn posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
No because that never happened.

sktgamer_13dude posted...
Well youre wrong.

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Remember when far-left CEmen swore that the caravan was just 500 people or w/e?

No because that never happened.

Are you guys like a liberal hive mind or do you just track every single post? I mean how do you know it wasn't said?

Because at no point has anyone pretended there weren't thousands of people? Like how stupid do you have to be to argue this?
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eggcorn
11/23/18 2:23:35 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
eggcorn posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
No because that never happened.

sktgamer_13dude posted...
Well youre wrong.

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Remember when far-left CEmen swore that the caravan was just 500 people or w/e?

No because that never happened.

Are you guys like a liberal hive mind or do you just track every single post? I mean how do you know it wasn't said?

Prove it then. Youre the one making the claim that it happened.

Well now we know for certain you can't read.
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hockeybub89
11/23/18 2:24:51 PM
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"People should enter the country legally!"

"No not like that!"
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hockeybub89
11/23/18 2:28:31 PM
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Spooking posted...
So they are camping out in Tijauna DEMANDING to be let into the US. What is going to change if they were let into the US? Expect us to give them a mansion, government services and a slice of turkey?

Is that what the typical immigrant or refugee demands? Or are you shitposting?
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Veggeta X
11/23/18 2:28:53 PM
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TC are you friends with sonicnash?
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ThePrinceFish
11/23/18 2:29:31 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
"People should enter the country legally!"

"No not like that!"

Who is saying the second thing?

I'm more than fine with them sitting on their asses in Tijuana for four months before being told that they have no claim to asylum. The problem occurs when they hop the border with "ASYLUM!!" in their back pocket for if and when they get caught illegally entering the country.
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Damn_Underscore
11/23/18 2:30:59 PM
#38:


hockeybub89 posted...
"People should enter the country legally!"

"No not like that!"


The US shouldn't have open borders. Immigrants should have skills that benefit the US.

What is this caravan going to do once they enter the US?
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KStateKing17
11/23/18 2:31:35 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
AlephZero posted...
i was told this news story would fade into obscurity after midterms because it was nothing more than an alt right talking point


because it is. migrants apply for asylum all the time, but this caravan was useful in stoking fears of "scary brown people."

this migrant caravan shouldn't be a story. no, scratch that, it should be in the frame of what are these migrants running from. but nobody wants to talk about that.

I've been wanting to know this for awhile. What country or countries are they coming from, and how come their thousands of migrants can't overpower whatever they're trying to get away from?
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s0nicfan
11/23/18 2:31:35 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Bio1590 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
at once in a town that already wants them gone.

But do they?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/21/world/americas/mexican-caravan-tijuana-border-.html

In 2016 and 2017, thousands of Haitians arrived after traveling all the way from Brazil. At one point, the city placed 6,000 Haitians in 32 different shelters, Mr. Palencia said.

Since then, some 3,500 Haitians have settled in Tijuana, and migration officials have been quick to cite their integration as a model for the caravan.

Its sonicfan. Not surprised hes talking out of his ass.


It's literally in the article. Try reading:
Hundreds of Tijuana residents have protested against the migrants' presence and urged them to leave

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-46256878
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ROBANN_88
11/23/18 2:32:21 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Spooking posted...
So they are camping out in Tijauna DEMANDING to be let into the US. What is going to change if they were let into the US? Expect us to give them a mansion, government services and a slice of turkey?

Is that what the typical immigrant or refugee demands? Or are you shitposting?


again, judging by how this has played out in Europe: yeah, kind of
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FLUFFYGERM
11/23/18 2:32:45 PM
#42:


Damn_Underscore posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
"People should enter the country legally!"

"No not like that!"


The US shouldn't have open borders. Immigrants should have skills that benefit the US.

What is this caravan going to do once they enter the US?


Probably go on welfare.
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Bio1590
11/23/18 2:33:59 PM
#43:


ThePrinceFish posted...
The problem occurs when they hop the border with "ASYLUM!!" in their back pocket for if and when they get caught illegally entering the country.

Which, funny enough, is actually a valid method of claiming asylum.
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s0nicfan
11/23/18 2:34:33 PM
#44:


CrimsonRage posted...
this migrant caravan shouldn't be a story. no, scratch that, it should be in the frame of what are these migrants running from. but nobody wants to talk about that.


Also in the article:
The migrants say they are leaving their respective countries in the hope of building a better future for themselves and their families.

Some say they have been threatened or mistreated by criminal gangs operating in their home towns. Many are travelling with their children whom they say they do not want to fall prey to the gangs.

Others hope to get jobs abroad which will pay enough for them to send money to their relatives who stayed behind.

Many say their dream is to reach the US. Some of them have relatives there already whom they hope to join; others have chosen it as their destination because they think they will earn higher salaries there than in Latin America.


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Lordgold666
11/23/18 2:34:35 PM
#45:


ROBANN_88 posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
ROBANN_88 posted...
we're about to see how you handle a small taste of what europe has been going through since atleast 2015.


imo they should all be given housing in trump's properties and should be allowed to live in them rent free for the rest of their lives at the personal expense of trump himself.


it would be more fitting that they'd live at the house of some pro-Open Borders activist.
let those who want them to come in take care of the bill.

^^^^
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Bio1590
11/23/18 2:34:50 PM
#46:


KStateKing17 posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
AlephZero posted...
i was told this news story would fade into obscurity after midterms because it was nothing more than an alt right talking point


because it is. migrants apply for asylum all the time, but this caravan was useful in stoking fears of "scary brown people."

this migrant caravan shouldn't be a story. no, scratch that, it should be in the frame of what are these migrants running from. but nobody wants to talk about that.

I've been wanting to know this for awhile. What country or countries are they coming from, and how come their thousands of migrants can't overpower whatever they're trying to get away from?

There's literally another topic on this board right now about military violence in Honduras.
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Unsugarized_Foo
11/23/18 2:35:03 PM
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Gonna be 9993 really disappointed people
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HiddenLurker
11/23/18 2:36:30 PM
#49:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
ROBANN_88 posted...
we're about to see how you handle a small taste of what europe has been going through since atleast 2015.


imo they should all be given housing in trump's properties and should be allowed to live in them rent free for the rest of their lives at the personal expense of trump himself.

Funny how the open boarders people never want to have to bear any cost of allowing them in.
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FLUFFYGERM
11/23/18 2:37:51 PM
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HiddenLurker posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
ROBANN_88 posted...
we're about to see how you handle a small taste of what europe has been going through since atleast 2015.


imo they should all be given housing in trump's properties and should be allowed to live in them rent free for the rest of their lives at the personal expense of trump himself.

Funny how the open boarders people never want to have to bear any cost of allowing them in.


They don't actually care about the refugees or having open borders. They just know that the southern border is mostly conservative countryside and they want to force the cost burden onto those taxpayers by straining their local infrastructure and systems.
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