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MrMallard
11/24/18 9:06:23 PM
#52:


It's a sad day when you can't talk shit about a gun-wielding racist who pulls a gun on a bunch of black teenagers without some asshole with a head full of moth balls trying to "both sides" this
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Kazi1212
11/24/18 9:08:14 PM
#53:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Im not sure what that has to do with anything I said, would you mind elaborating? Maybe Im just not getting your point, but thats why courts exist, even if the teens did nothing legally wrong, the man could have his original charge he was arrested with lowered if the witnesses in the incident(the employees) gives any reason for the courts to do so. But again, I may have missed your intent, definitely wouldnt mind a clarification on your point.

You're giving more weight to the testimony of the adults while ignoring that the racist adult was arrested and not the kids.

If the kids really brought this on themselves then why was the racist arrested days later and not the kids? Weird how the cops were able to find enough cause to arrest the racist, whereas the kids don't have a charge for disorderly conduct themselves. Why do you think that is?

What does baseless mean to you again,
I forgot.


Im giving weight to the testimony of the adults regarding the escalation of pulling out the gun. I havent said I didnt think the man didnt deserve to be arrested, I have already stated earlier this is clearly racist, a racist man harrassing teens for their race, I do believe that has to be some crime here for that. Im just saying its possible the man wont be charged with sort of crime that convicts him around the handling of his gun. But again, we have to see what the courts rule after hearing all the witnesses.

Having said that, if I were a cop, I would definitely find it more common sensical to arrest the guy with his gun out than bunchnof teens. Again, thats why the courts are there, if there was any error of the arresting officers in the moment then theyre there to correct that.

I just dont think Im being as unreasonable as you make me out to be is all.
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CapnMuffin
11/24/18 9:17:38 PM
#54:


Man defends his racism with a gun.
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Number090684
11/24/18 9:21:12 PM
#55:


ModLogic posted...
He told everybody to back up.

The next few moments were captured on the cellphone video. The video shows the man pointing at the group and yelling as he backs out of the restaurant.

After the man left the McDonalds, the video shows, a restaurant employee used expletives to tell the teenagers to leave the restaurant

Another employee, who was also recorded in a second video, told the group that the gun had been pulled for a reason.


something tells me we aren't getting the full story


Agreed. Chances are one or more of the group got upset at the guy early on in the exchange and decided they weren't just going to ignore him, and tried to intimidate the guy physically to instigate a fight, so they could have a excuse to hit him, but that's when shit hit the fan because he was armed. Not saying the old guy should be let off the hook as it seems he possibly started it, but I doubt the group of teens were completely innocent and he drew the gun unprovoked. The McDonald's employee who said the man had a reason to draw the gun should have spoken up to the police when they were investigating afterwards if he really saw something. Anyway, this is what happens when people with biases and / or mental issues decide to start shit and is why I can't stand most people in general.
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Kazi1212
11/24/18 9:22:32 PM
#56:


CapnMuffin posted...
Man defends his racism with a gun.


I mean, one can mock it all they want, but with with the kinda laws in the US around justifications for pulling out a gun, something which varies greatly by state, what I said is certainly possible. If hes in a gun law friendly state, the charge may very well be lowered, if hes not in a gun friendly state then hell likely face charges for how he handled his gun. Just the politics of the situation.
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A_Good_Boy
11/24/18 9:26:25 PM
#57:


Kazi1212 posted...
CapnMuffin posted...
Man defends his racism with a gun.


I mean, one can mock it all they want, but with with the kinda laws in the US around justifications for pulling out a gun, something which varies greatly by state, what I said is certainly possible. If hes in a gun law friendly state, the charge may very well be lowered, if hes not in a gun friendly state then hell likely face charges for how he handled his gun. Just the politics of the situation.

What's the legal justification for pulling out a gun for an altercation that you instigated in the first place? Is it none?
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Lost_All_Senses
11/24/18 9:26:49 PM
#58:


CapnMuffin posted...
Man defends his racism with a gun.


Michael Che had a joke that was something like.. the amendments were white guy perks and if amendment one is "I can say whatever the fuck I want" then the second has to be "And Im probably gonna need a gun too".
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Kazi1212
11/24/18 9:33:10 PM
#59:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
CapnMuffin posted...
Man defends his racism with a gun.


I mean, one can mock it all they want, but with with the kinda laws in the US around justifications for pulling out a gun, something which varies greatly by state, what I said is certainly possible. If hes in a gun law friendly state, the charge may very well be lowered, if hes not in a gun friendly state then hell likely face charges for how he handled his gun. Just the politics of the situation.

What's the legal justification for pulling out a gun for an altercation that you instigated in the first place? Is it none?


Did the man instigate the physical provocation or did he react to it, or if even there was any at all? What are the precedents in cases similar to this in the state hes in? Thats the thing, you guys always want to act as judge and jury the moment a story breaks, thanks god we have actual courts to do this for us and look at the incident with some actual depth. Maybe that makes me unreasonable, but thats what I think.
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A_Good_Boy
11/24/18 9:36:17 PM
#60:


Kazi1212 posted...
Did the man instigate the physical provocation or did he react to it,

You start calling a bunch of people racial slurs and think you're not provoking a response? Cause you're going on and on about how you love bird law, but states actually don't protect you when you're acting disordly with your speech. Cray cray, I know, but real life doesn't work like ES.
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Kazi1212
11/24/18 9:38:01 PM
#61:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
Did the man instigate the physical provocation or did he react to it,

You start calling a bunch of people racial slurs and think you're not provoking a response?


I dont disagree with you, Im saying I just dont know laws regarding that in the state hes in in conjunction with gun handling, let alone the fact I dont have the full witness testimonies. If you happen to be educated in that realm, good for you, Im just an average citizen.
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TrevorBlack79
11/24/18 10:36:56 PM
#62:


Lost_All_Senses posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
might of

Lost_All_Senses posted...
might of


Stop it.


Eh, I take pride in acknowledging that none of us have all the facts. Im not hardheaded and don't think I know everything that happened based of a video with little context. You however, seem to pick a side and not think outside the box you put yourself in.


JFC dude. How did that go so far over your head?

Hint: There's no such phrase as "might of."
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DarkTransient
11/24/18 10:39:49 PM
#63:


A_Good_Boy posted...
After the man left the McDonalds, the video shows, a restaurant employee used expletives to tell the teenagers to leave the restaurant, despite a bystanders pleas not to put the teenagers in more danger.

Another employee, who was also recorded in a second video, told the group that the gun had been pulled for a reason.


And they don't elaborate on this. Yeah, smells like another case of "withhold the details that damage our chances to blame this on racism".
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ModLogic
11/24/18 10:48:11 PM
#64:


A_Good_Boy posted...
ModLogic posted...
yea he's clearly walking "backwards" with his hoodie on "backwards"

Still not seeing how his walk way was blocked when he's moving freely without a hitch. You gonna have to give me a timestamp that demonstrates what you're talking about.

i dont have to give anything because you dont want to see whats there.

so tell me. did he have teleportation abilities when he pushed one of the gang since none of them were in the way?
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catboy0_0
11/24/18 10:54:42 PM
#65:


ModLogic posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
ModLogic posted...
yea he's clearly walking "backwards" with his hoodie on "backwards"

Still not seeing how his walk way was blocked when he's moving freely without a hitch. You gonna have to give me a timestamp that demonstrates what you're talking about.

i dont have to give anything because you dont want to see whats there.

so tell me. did he have teleportation abilities when he pushed one of the gang since none of them were in the way?

it's not there dude was a deranged racist
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A_Good_Boy
11/24/18 10:55:18 PM
#66:


ModLogic posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
ModLogic posted...
yea he's clearly walking "backwards" with his hoodie on "backwards"

Still not seeing how his walk way was blocked when he's moving freely without a hitch. You gonna have to give me a timestamp that demonstrates what you're talking about.

i dont have to give anything because you dont want to see whats there.

so tell me. did he have teleportation abilities when he pushed one of the gang since none of them were in the way?

He must have teleportation abilities, cause the dude he pushed was standing in front of him (ie. Not in front of the exit).

Go get those eyes checked bro.
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ModLogic
11/25/18 12:43:02 AM
#67:


A_Good_Boy posted...
ModLogic posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
ModLogic posted...
yea he's clearly walking "backwards" with his hoodie on "backwards"

Still not seeing how his walk way was blocked when he's moving freely without a hitch. You gonna have to give me a timestamp that demonstrates what you're talking about.

i dont have to give anything because you dont want to see whats there.

so tell me. did he have teleportation abilities when he pushed one of the gang since none of them were in the way?

He must have teleportation abilities, cause the dude he pushed was standing in front of him (ie. Not in front of the exit).

Go get those eyes checked bro.

7ugRF3P
yea clearly the gang isnt in between thr man and the exit

i think you need to put what those eyes of yours are connected to in for a service
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catboy0_0
11/25/18 12:44:06 AM
#68:


you're being delusional in this instance, modlogic
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kayoticdreamz
11/25/18 1:05:39 AM
#69:


if this was a black man flashing the gun....liberals would be saying "What does the man's race have to do with anything?"

So I'll be the liberal for today and ask....what does the man's race have to do with anything?
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Kazi1212
11/25/18 1:08:11 AM
#70:


kayoticdreamz posted...
if this was a black man flashing the gun....liberals would be saying "What does the man's race have to do with anything?"

So I'll be the liberal for today and ask....what does the man's race have to do with anything?


But that would have ended this clearly well intentioned bait topic much earlier.
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Bishop9800
11/25/18 10:49:28 AM
#71:


Wow. So far, three or four people are defending this piece of shit. And as usual, it's the same suspects.

A typical day on CE.
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A_Good_Boy
11/25/18 12:43:37 PM
#72:


Kazi1212 posted...
kayoticdreamz posted...
if this was a black man flashing the gun....liberals would be saying "What does the man's race have to do with anything?"

So I'll be the liberal for today and ask....what does the man's race have to do with anything?


But that would have ended this clearly well intentioned bait topic much earlier.

So you'd reverse course and would no longer require extra evidence before casting judgment if the dude with the gun was black?
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A_Good_Boy
11/25/18 12:46:41 PM
#73:


ModLogic posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
ModLogic posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
ModLogic posted...
yea he's clearly walking "backwards" with his hoodie on "backwards"

Still not seeing how his walk way was blocked when he's moving freely without a hitch. You gonna have to give me a timestamp that demonstrates what you're talking about.

i dont have to give anything because you dont want to see whats there.

so tell me. did he have teleportation abilities when he pushed one of the gang since none of them were in the way?

He must have teleportation abilities, cause the dude he pushed was standing in front of him (ie. Not in front of the exit).

Go get those eyes checked bro.

7ugRF3P
yea clearly the gang isnt in between thr man and the exit

i think you need to put what those eyes of yours are connected to in for a service

The original claim was that his exit was blocked, not that there were people standing behind him. Nice goal post shift bro. You can't pull out a gun on people in a fast food restaurant just because there are people standing behind you. People standing behind you is how McDonald's works in the first place.

Nice try bro, see you next topic where you're defending yet another racist hate crime against black people. Maybe then you'll have a better leg to stand on.
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ultimate reaver
11/25/18 12:53:11 PM
#74:


Bishop9800 posted...
Wow. So far, three or four people are defending this piece of shit. And as usual, it's the same suspects.

A typical day on CE.


its very odd that the same group of people will always side against black folk in these threads regardless of what is going on. almost like everyone doing it has something in common
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ModLogic
11/25/18 2:25:32 PM
#75:


A_Good_Boy posted...
ModLogic posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
ModLogic posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
ModLogic posted...
yea he's clearly walking "backwards" with his hoodie on "backwards"

Still not seeing how his walk way was blocked when he's moving freely without a hitch. You gonna have to give me a timestamp that demonstrates what you're talking about.

i dont have to give anything because you dont want to see whats there.

so tell me. did he have teleportation abilities when he pushed one of the gang since none of them were in the way?

He must have teleportation abilities, cause the dude he pushed was standing in front of him (ie. Not in front of the exit).

Go get those eyes checked bro.

7ugRF3P
yea clearly the gang isnt in between thr man and the exit

i think you need to put what those eyes of yours are connected to in for a service

The original claim was that his exit was blocked, not that there were people standing behind him. Nice goal post shift bro. You can't pull out a gun on people in a fast food restaurant just because there are people standing behind you. People standing behind you is how McDonald's works in the first place.

Nice try bro, see you next topic where you're defending yet another racist hate crime against black people. Maybe then you'll have a better leg to stand on.

yea nice mental gymnastics there. people standing between you and where you want to go isnt blocking your way.
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A_Good_Boy
11/25/18 2:29:29 PM
#76:


ModLogic posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
ModLogic posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
ModLogic posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
ModLogic posted...
yea he's clearly walking "backwards" with his hoodie on "backwards"

Still not seeing how his walk way was blocked when he's moving freely without a hitch. You gonna have to give me a timestamp that demonstrates what you're talking about.

i dont have to give anything because you dont want to see whats there.

so tell me. did he have teleportation abilities when he pushed one of the gang since none of them were in the way?

He must have teleportation abilities, cause the dude he pushed was standing in front of him (ie. Not in front of the exit).

Go get those eyes checked bro.

7ugRF3P
yea clearly the gang isnt in between thr man and the exit

i think you need to put what those eyes of yours are connected to in for a service

The original claim was that his exit was blocked, not that there were people standing behind him. Nice goal post shift bro. You can't pull out a gun on people in a fast food restaurant just because there are people standing behind you. People standing behind you is how McDonald's works in the first place.

Nice try bro, see you next topic where you're defending yet another racist hate crime against black people. Maybe then you'll have a better leg to stand on.

yea nice mental gymnastics there. people standing between you and where you want to go isnt blocking your way.

If they move out of your way when you step in their direction, then yes, that's exactly what that means. People standing in a line behind you aren't barring your path anymore than the people standing behind the racist gentleman in this video.

Glad we're on the same page.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
11/25/18 2:50:16 PM
#77:


TrevorBlack79 posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
might of

Lost_All_Senses posted...
might of


Stop it.


Eh, I take pride in acknowledging that none of us have all the facts. Im not hardheaded and don't think I know everything that happened based of a video with little context. You however, seem to pick a side and not think outside the box you put yourself in.


JFC dude. How did that go so far over your head?

Hint: There's no such phrase as "might of."


This took way too long lmao
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ModLogic
11/25/18 2:58:33 PM
#78:


A_Good_Boy posted...
If they move out of your way when you step in their direction, then yes, that's exactly what that means. People standing in a line behind you aren't barring your path anymore than the people standing behind the racist gentleman in this video.

yea they just moved out of his way. thats why he had to push them. thats why a mcdonald worker had to try and hold one back. thats why a gun had to be drawn.

why are they in a line behind him when they were the ones who ordered first. since thier inability to pay was what started the mess.
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Lost_All_Senses
11/25/18 3:04:32 PM
#79:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
might of

Lost_All_Senses posted...
might of


Stop it.


Eh, I take pride in acknowledging that none of us have all the facts. Im not hardheaded and don't think I know everything that happened based of a video with little context. You however, seem to pick a side and not think outside the box you put yourself in.


JFC dude. How did that go so far over your head?

Hint: There's no such phrase as "might of."


This took way too long lmao


Eh, Im not that kind of smart. I've come to terms with that. Id rather be dumb than the jackass who makes fun of the guy being dumb instead of actually educating him. Actually, I do both. Might've looks stupid and doesn't deserve to be a word anyway.
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A_Good_Boy
11/25/18 3:10:26 PM
#80:


ModLogic posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
If they move out of your way when you step in their direction, then yes, that's exactly what that means. People standing in a line behind you aren't barring your path anymore than the people standing behind the racist gentleman in this video.

yea they just moved out of his way. thats why he had to push them. thats why a mcdonald worker had to try and hold one back. thats why a gun had to be drawn.

why are they in a line behind him when they were the ones who ordered first. since thier inability to pay was what started the mess.

Now you're just repeating yourself. Damn near everything in this post is something that's already been touched on.

Shoo fly, you're done.
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TrevorBlack79
11/25/18 3:12:08 PM
#81:


Lost_All_Senses posted...
Might've looks stupid and doesn't deserve to be a word anyway.


It's "might have."
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Rika_Furude
11/25/18 3:17:07 PM
#82:


So... is this just another michael brown incident?
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A_Good_Boy
11/25/18 3:18:46 PM
#83:


Rika_Furude posted...
So... is this just another michael brown incident?

Where the person that's attacking other people isn't an innocent snowflake? Yup! Sure does seem just like that.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
11/25/18 3:19:30 PM
#84:


Lost_All_Senses posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
TrevorBlack79 posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
might of

Lost_All_Senses posted...
might of


Stop it.


Eh, I take pride in acknowledging that none of us have all the facts. Im not hardheaded and don't think I know everything that happened based of a video with little context. You however, seem to pick a side and not think outside the box you put yourself in.


JFC dude. How did that go so far over your head?

Hint: There's no such phrase as "might of."


This took way too long lmao


Eh, Im not that kind of smart. I've come to terms with that. Id rather be dumb than the jackass who makes fun of the guy being dumb instead of actually educating him. Actually, I do both. Might've looks stupid and doesn't deserve to be a word anyway.


Okay. So to educate you, "might of" is not a thing. Correct way to do it is might've or might have. Could, should, would, etc. also work that way.
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Lost_All_Senses
11/25/18 3:21:55 PM
#85:


TrevorBlack79 posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
Might've looks stupid and doesn't deserve to be a word anyway.


It's "might have."


Might've pops up in my auto correct >_>. But see, this is the conversation I can have. Because it's an actual conversation, it's not putting me on display like "look at this idiot". Im comfortable with my short comings, so just talk to me.
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GaryGaryGary
11/25/18 3:22:05 PM
#86:


Firstly, I can't even see the gun.

Secondly, I thought guns were legal in the USA.
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TrevorBlack79
11/25/18 3:23:24 PM
#87:


Might've is the correct contraction for might have, but I agree it looks stupid.
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ModLogic
11/25/18 3:23:59 PM
#88:


A_Good_Boy posted...
ModLogic posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
If they move out of your way when you step in their direction, then yes, that's exactly what that means. People standing in a line behind you aren't barring your path anymore than the people standing behind the racist gentleman in this video.

yea they just moved out of his way. thats why he had to push them. thats why a mcdonald worker had to try and hold one back. thats why a gun had to be drawn.

why are they in a line behind him when they were the ones who ordered first. since thier inability to pay was what started the mess.

Now you're just repeating yourself. Damn near everything in this post is something that's already been touched on.

Shoo fly, you're done.

better a fly than some permanent victim wanting to be oppressed.
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Lost_All_Senses
11/25/18 3:24:05 PM
#89:


GaryGaryGary posted...
Secondly, I thought guns were legal in the USA.


So, because something is legal it means you can use it however you want?...what kind of dumb logic.
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Kitt
11/25/18 3:27:27 PM
#90:


ultimate reaver posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
Wow. So far, three or four people are defending this piece of shit. And as usual, it's the same suspects.

A typical day on CE.


its very odd that the same group of people will always side against black folk in these threads regardless of what is going on. almost like everyone doing it has something in common

It's like clockwork. In another topic that was all over on here; there was a stories where a White guy antagonized, picked a fight with, chucked things at and threw the first punch at a Black guy and the same group of people we're still trying to frame it as the Black guy's fault somehow.
I always figured the whole usual suspects thing was just an exaggeration, but it looks more and more valid the more of these topics I go into. It's really not a good look for the board.
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hockeybub89
11/25/18 3:27:43 PM
#91:


White man pulls gun on black teens- "There had to be a good reason"

Black person gets gunned down for walking through Wal-Mart, his backyard, knocking on a door or being inside his own apartment- "Mistakes happens. He probably smoked pot or got arrested once anyway, so he wasn't innocent either"
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Bishop9800
11/25/18 3:28:27 PM
#92:


ultimate reaver posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
Wow. So far, three or four people are defending this piece of shit. And as usual, it's the same suspects.

A typical day on CE.


its very odd that the same group of people will always side against black folk in these threads regardless of what is going on. almost like everyone doing it has something in common


Take a guess what it is..........
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gunplagirl
11/25/18 3:29:19 PM
#93:


What's the deal with a disproportionately high amount of melanin-impaired persons who have a phallic genital and them using guns to threaten melanin-enhanced persons (often with sapphic genitals) in the United States?
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A_Good_Boy
11/25/18 3:30:35 PM
#94:


ModLogic posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
ModLogic posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
If they move out of your way when you step in their direction, then yes, that's exactly what that means. People standing in a line behind you aren't barring your path anymore than the people standing behind the racist gentleman in this video.

yea they just moved out of his way. thats why he had to push them. thats why a mcdonald worker had to try and hold one back. thats why a gun had to be drawn.

why are they in a line behind him when they were the ones who ordered first. since thier inability to pay was what started the mess.

Now you're just repeating yourself. Damn near everything in this post is something that's already been touched on.

Shoo fly, you're done.

better a fly than some permanent victim wanting to be oppressed.

This is why you always argue in favor of white supremacist victims without fail, right?

You still victimized that the mods oppress your swastikas, or have you finally gotten over your bout of victimhood?
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ModLogic
11/25/18 3:37:44 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
swastikas

do you still hold ignorant and bigoted views towards other cultures and religions?
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ImTheMacheteGuy
11/25/18 3:40:05 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
What's the deal with a disproportionately high amount of melanin-impaired persons who have a phallic genital and them using guns to threaten melanin-enhanced persons (often with sapphic genitals) in the United States?


I just asked my phallus this question. It replied with a shrug emoji.
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Bishop9800
11/25/18 3:40:30 PM
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ModLogic posted...
do you still hold ignorant and bigoted views towards other cultures and religions?


It's obviously that you do.....
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eston
11/25/18 3:40:34 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy
11/25/18 3:41:40 PM
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ModLogic posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
swastikas

do you still hold ignorant and bigoted views towards other cultures and religions?


Huh?
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Killmonger
11/25/18 3:44:06 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
White man pulls gun on black teens- "There had to be a good reason"

Black person gets gunned down for walking through Wal-Mart, his backyard, knocking on a door or being inside his own apartment- "Mistakes happens. He probably smoked pot or got arrested once anyway, so he wasn't innocent either"

"Let's wait for the facts."
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A_Good_Boy
11/25/18 3:45:56 PM
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ModLogic posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
swastikas

do you still hold ignorant and bigoted views towards other cultures and religions?

You poor oppressed victim.
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