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Romulox28
11/26/18 12:43:55 PM
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someone just said they wont be able to hire any new police in NJ because everyone will be high lol
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Trickfinger
11/26/18 12:44:31 PM
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how does that make sense
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Blue_Inigo
11/26/18 12:45:19 PM
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Thats some early 2000s logic
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Alpha218
11/26/18 12:45:42 PM
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Took them long enough

I dont even blame Murphy for this, the state senate wanted to play politics plus the pharma industry has too much sway in the statehouse
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AvantgardeAClue
11/26/18 12:47:11 PM
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About fucking time

Let us pump our own gas while we're at it

The brain dead gas station attendants will find something else to do I'm sure
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Romulox28
11/26/18 12:48:13 PM
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Alpha218 posted...
Took them long enough

tbh from what i am hearing so far, i really dont think that the legalization bill will pass
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AvantgardeAClue
11/26/18 12:49:14 PM
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Fucking JOISEY

Literally gotta be Fetty Wap to get medical weed around here

Guess they're fine with people spending their money on uber high rent and property tax instead I guess
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Trickfinger
11/26/18 12:57:34 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
Fucking JOISEY

Literally gotta be Fetty Wap to get medical weed around here

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Alpha218
11/26/18 12:58:34 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
Alpha218 posted...
Took them long enough

tbh from what i am hearing so far, i really dont think that the legalization bill will pass

Im not going to do it myself but legalization shouldve happened years ago. If it doesnt pass it will just solidify my hatred of how politics plays out in this state
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Lost_All_Senses
11/26/18 1:00:01 PM
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Trickfinger posted...
how does that make sense


When do anti-marijuana people ever make sense?
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Romulox28
11/26/18 1:01:28 PM
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a lot of concern over what drug sniffing dogs will do if weed is legalized lol

also the cops got super nervous when a black speaker questioned them on the racial component to marijuana being illegal
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Damn_Underscore
11/26/18 1:02:05 PM
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The easy argument for marijuana is that alcohol is legal, worse than marijuana, and still advertised everywhere.
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Trickfinger
11/26/18 1:03:28 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
The easy argument for marijuana is that alcohol is legal, worse than marijuana, and still advertised everywhere.

And cigarettes which are literally like joints/blunts except a million times worse
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SwordMaster13X
11/26/18 1:05:02 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
a lot of concern over what drug sniffing dogs will do if weed is legalized lol

also the cops got super nervous when a black speaker questioned them on the racial component to marijuana being illegal


Can't they sniff for other drugs or be recuse dogs? Or actually be normal dogs? Lol
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Lost_All_Senses
11/26/18 1:05:16 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
a lot of concern over what drug sniffing dogs will do if weed is legalized lol

also the cops got super nervous when a black speaker questioned them on the racial component to marijuana being illegal


Cops will always find something to arrest black people for. They have really good improv in that department
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AvantgardeAClue
11/26/18 1:06:13 PM
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State police in general here are fucking bullies so I wouldn't be surprised if they're helping in obstructing this

Most local police don't give a shit about weed either way
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Guide
11/26/18 1:07:06 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
About fucking time

Let us pump our own gas while we're at it

The brain dead gas station attendants will find something else to do I'm sure


No true Jerseyan wants to pump his own gas, you fraud.
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Romulox28
11/26/18 1:07:18 PM
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SwordMaster13X posted...
Can't they sniff for other drugs or be recuse dogs? Or actually be normal dogs? Lol

their argument is that they are going to lose all the money invested in these dogs, it costs like $6k or something to train them

so the rationale for keeping marijuana illegal and throwing people in jail for using it is because they dont want to lose their ROI on drug sniffing dogs lol. fucking incredible
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SwordMaster13X
11/26/18 1:09:50 PM
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Guide posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
About fucking time

Let us pump our own gas while we're at it

The brain dead gas station attendants will find something else to do I'm sure


No true Jerseyan wants to pump his own gas, you fraud.


I don't care to pump my own gas really. I have done it before in other states but I don't care enough to do it on a consistent basis.
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SwordMaster13X
11/26/18 1:11:53 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
SwordMaster13X posted...
Can't they sniff for other drugs or be recuse dogs? Or actually be normal dogs? Lol

their argument is that they are going to lose all the money invested in these dogs, it costs like $6k or something to train them

so the rationale for keeping marijuana illegal and throwing people in jail for using it is because they dont want to lose their ROI on drug sniffing dogs lol. fucking incredible


How many dogs do they actually have? Are there millions of police dogs in jersey? It can't be that much lol
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Romulox28
11/26/18 1:13:50 PM
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SwordMaster13X posted...
Romulox28 posted...
SwordMaster13X posted...
Can't they sniff for other drugs or be recuse dogs? Or actually be normal dogs? Lol

their argument is that they are going to lose all the money invested in these dogs, it costs like $6k or something to train them

so the rationale for keeping marijuana illegal and throwing people in jail for using it is because they dont want to lose their ROI on drug sniffing dogs lol. fucking incredible


How many dogs do they actually have? Are there millions of police dogs in jersey? It can't be that much lol

every single anti-cannabis argument i have heard so far in the hearing falls into one of two camps: "think of the children" or "the police will have to do stuff differently"
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AvantgardeAClue
11/26/18 1:15:00 PM
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Guide posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
About fucking time

Let us pump our own gas while we're at it

The brain dead gas station attendants will find something else to do I'm sure


No true Jerseyan wants to pump his own gas, you fraud.


Try having your gas pumped with a rewards/discount coupon and telling the attendant you want to use that. If they don't look at you in total confusion they'll spout some BS about how it doesn't work
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Romulox28
11/26/18 1:20:38 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
Guide posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
About fucking time

Let us pump our own gas while we're at it

The brain dead gas station attendants will find something else to do I'm sure


No true Jerseyan wants to pump his own gas, you fraud.


Try having your gas pumped with a rewards/discount coupon and telling the attendant you want to use that. If they don't look at you in total confusion they'll spout some BS about how it doesn't work

try telling them anything other than "fill it regular" and watch their heads explode
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AvantgardeAClue
11/26/18 1:22:23 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
Guide posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
About fucking time

Let us pump our own gas while we're at it

The brain dead gas station attendants will find something else to do I'm sure


No true Jerseyan wants to pump his own gas, you fraud.


Try having your gas pumped with a rewards/discount coupon and telling the attendant you want to use that. If they don't look at you in total confusion they'll spout some BS about how it doesn't work

try telling them anything other than "fill it regular" and watch their heads explode


Even that is a bit too much sometimes lol
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SwordMaster13X
11/26/18 2:33:37 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
SwordMaster13X posted...
Romulox28 posted...
SwordMaster13X posted...
Can't they sniff for other drugs or be recuse dogs? Or actually be normal dogs? Lol

their argument is that they are going to lose all the money invested in these dogs, it costs like $6k or something to train them

so the rationale for keeping marijuana illegal and throwing people in jail for using it is because they dont want to lose their ROI on drug sniffing dogs lol. fucking incredible


How many dogs do they actually have? Are there millions of police dogs in jersey? It can't be that much lol

every single anti-cannabis argument i have heard so far in the hearing falls into one of two camps: "think of the children" or "the police will have to do stuff differently"


What dumb excuses
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Vamp_Aubrey
11/26/18 2:34:47 PM
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Hopefully NJ does the right thing and jails anyone that advocates for legalization
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YookaLaylee
11/26/18 2:36:02 PM
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Vamp_Aubrey posted...
Hopefully NJ does the right thing and jails anyone that advocates for legalization

Thats so stupid
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voldothegr8
11/26/18 2:38:18 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
SwordMaster13X posted...
Romulox28 posted...
SwordMaster13X posted...
Can't they sniff for other drugs or be recuse dogs? Or actually be normal dogs? Lol

their argument is that they are going to lose all the money invested in these dogs, it costs like $6k or something to train them

so the rationale for keeping marijuana illegal and throwing people in jail for using it is because they dont want to lose their ROI on drug sniffing dogs lol. fucking incredible


How many dogs do they actually have? Are there millions of police dogs in jersey? It can't be that much lol

every single anti-cannabis argument i have heard so far in the hearing falls into one of two camps: "think of the children" or "the police will have to do stuff differently"

To which at this point they can point at the legal states and demonstrate they're doing just fine.
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Trickfinger
11/26/18 2:39:53 PM
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YookaLaylee posted...
Vamp_Aubrey posted...
Hopefully NJ does the right thing and jails anyone that advocates for legalization

Thats so stupid

I'm sure he wasn't being facetious
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legendary_zell
11/26/18 2:48:52 PM
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This is like a less directly abusive version of the gay marriage argument where those opposed are reduced to utterly laughable arguments.
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SwordMaster13X
11/26/18 3:02:51 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
Guide posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
About fucking time

Let us pump our own gas while we're at it

The brain dead gas station attendants will find something else to do I'm sure


No true Jerseyan wants to pump his own gas, you fraud.


Try having your gas pumped with a rewards/discount coupon and telling the attendant you want to use that. If they don't look at you in total confusion they'll spout some BS about how it doesn't work

try telling them anything other than "fill it regular" and watch their heads explode


I think they do a good job. I once gave a gas attendant a gift card when they filled up my tank and he did a good job on getting it right. I have no problems with the attendants. They are quick and don't fill in too much gas or charge too much.

@Romulox28
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iClockwork
11/26/18 3:03:34 PM
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Trickfinger posted...
And cigarettes which are literally like joints/blunts except a million times worse

A MILLION!
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Questionmarktarius
11/26/18 3:12:12 PM
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iClockwork posted...
Trickfinger posted...
And cigarettes which are literally like joints/blunts except a million times worse

A MILLION!

There's not a hell of a lot of weed chainsmokers out there, and the few that exist don't tend to be in situations where second-hand smoke is a significant concern (unless you're there for the contact high).
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iClockwork
11/26/18 3:12:53 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
There's not a hell of a lot of weed chainsmokers out there

ok dude now you're definitely trolling
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Questionmarktarius
11/26/18 3:15:09 PM
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iClockwork posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
There's not a hell of a lot of weed chainsmokers out there

ok dude now you're definitely trolling

The chronics are largely irrelevant to daily life.

I dunno. Maybe the severe stigmatization of cigarettes has nudged the number of chainsmokers down enough to intersect the chronic potsmokers.
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Alpha218
11/26/18 3:19:11 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
iClockwork posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
There's not a hell of a lot of weed chainsmokers out there

ok dude now you're definitely trolling

The chronics are largely irrelevant to daily life.

I dunno. Maybe the severe stigmatization of cigarettes has nudged the number of chainsmokers down enough to intersect the chronic potsmokers.

If anything, legalizing will allow support groups to pop up to help with their addiction, instead of just throwing them in jail with felony charges
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Romulox28
11/26/18 4:02:42 PM
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bill just passed in committee in both senate & assembly. next step is a full vote of the state legislators, followed by approval/veto of the governor, and then cannabis is legal.

pretty cool. the governor has already promised to sign off so the only questionable part left is the full senate/assembly vote, but both houses are majority democrat & i hear that the bill wouldnt have even been brought up for vote if they didnt think they c ould pass it.
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Alpha218
11/26/18 4:28:43 PM
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Majority dem means nothing. What really matters is how many of the Dems are in Big Pharmas pocket because they have a vested interest in this failing
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Romulox28
11/26/18 4:31:55 PM
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Alpha218 posted...
Majority dem means nothing. What really matters is how many of the Dems are in Big Pharmas pocket because they have a vested interest in this failing

yea its going to really come down to how many dems can be drummed up because republicans are basically 100% no. i think the next vote is going to either be Dec 17th or sometime in January
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SwordMaster13X
11/26/18 4:34:24 PM
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Alpha218 posted...
Majority dem means nothing. What really matters is how many of the Dems are in Big Pharmas pocket because they have a vested interest in this failing


Also some of the dems are old as hell and believe in THINK OF THE CHILDREN AND POLICE DOGS
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Giant_Aspirin
11/26/18 4:37:11 PM
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EscapeFromHell
11/26/18 4:39:00 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
someone just said they wont be able to hire any new police in NJ because everyone will be high lol

I'm not saying he's right, but... I live in MA and since it was legalized/decriminalized, I smell it everywhere I go. The amount of people smoking while driving has gone through the roof!

I don't care if people smoke (I don't do anything, but I ain't no square, bruh) but when you can't go to the mall, movies, beach, restaurant (and on and on) without smelling weed, there's a real problem.
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Romulox28
11/26/18 4:47:46 PM
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EscapeFromHell posted...
Romulox28 posted...
someone just said they wont be able to hire any new police in NJ because everyone will be high lol

I'm not saying he's right, but... I live in MA and since it was legalized/decriminalized, I smell it everywhere I go. The amount of people smoking while driving has gone through the roof!

I don't care if people smoke (I don't do anything, but I ain't no square, bruh) but when you can't go to the mall, movies, beach, restaurant (and on and on) without smelling weed, there's a real problem.

i dont think not liking the smell of weed is a valid reason for it to be an illegal substance that people are arrested & incarcerated for.

as for smoking while driving, well i wish people wouldnt do it but it happens all the time now and the substance is still illegal
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EscapeFromHell
11/26/18 4:50:00 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
EscapeFromHell posted...
Romulox28 posted...
someone just said they wont be able to hire any new police in NJ because everyone will be high lol

I'm not saying he's right, but... I live in MA and since it was legalized/decriminalized, I smell it everywhere I go. The amount of people smoking while driving has gone through the roof!

I don't care if people smoke (I don't do anything, but I ain't no square, bruh) but when you can't go to the mall, movies, beach, restaurant (and on and on) without smelling weed, there's a real problem.

i dont think not liking the smell of weed is a valid reason for it to be an illegal substance that people are arrested & incarcerated for.

I didn't say any of that, but ok.
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Romulox28
11/26/18 4:52:04 PM
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oops my bad, i misread
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Giant_Aspirin
11/26/18 4:52:12 PM
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EscapeFromHell posted...
I'm not saying he's right, but... I live in MA and since it was legalized/decriminalized, I smell it everywhere I go.


weird, i've been to various places with legal recreational and didn't smell it anywhere except inside the dispensaries.

the folks smoking while driving should be subject to the same penalties as any other DUI/OMVI
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___b0xxY2J0sHBK
11/26/18 5:04:38 PM
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If we are gonna legalize marijuana, we might as well legalize heroin
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Dash_Harber
11/26/18 5:06:34 PM
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Prohibition won't really last now that Canada has legalized and Mexico is moving towards it.
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Dash_Harber
11/26/18 5:07:05 PM
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___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
If we are gonna legalize marijuana, we might as well legalize heroin


If we are going to make marijuana illegal, we might as well make caffeine illegal!
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___b0xxY2J0sHBK
11/26/18 5:08:35 PM
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Dash_Harber posted...
___b0xxY2J0sHBK posted...
If we are gonna legalize marijuana, we might as well legalize heroin


If we are going to make marijuana illegal, we might as well make caffeine illegal!


Caffeine is harmless. Marijuana isnt. This also doesnt detract my point. Ive nevet seen pot heads also advocate for meth or heroin
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