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HaRRicH
12/04/18 12:02:58 AM
#102:


Tonight, on Noble Watch:

The Noble Nine against outsiders in 2018s contest (generally defined by full-day-format one-on-one matches with multiple polls per day and registered users getting double-votes + some days with only one poll per day) *INCOMPLETE*:

Link - 2-0
Samus - 1-0
Cloud - 1-0
Crono - 1-0
Sephiroth - 4-1
Solid Snake - 1-1
Mega Man - 1-1
Sonic - 1-1
Mario - n/a

In 2018 so far: 12-4

CURRENT RECORD so far: 12-4 (75%)

Sonic bites the dust against Zelda, bringing us Zelda's second win over the Noble Nine and our fourth total Noble Nine-loss.this contest. While Sonic is known for getting revenge on those outsiders who break the Noble Nine on him, right now it doesn't look like he'll get to do it too soon.

At this moment, the Noble Nine's win-loss percentage is doing almost 10% worse against outsiders than they ever have in a contest before. For comparison, 2013's record was 49-9 for 84.48%. 2007, 2008, and 2010 each had their records at 90+%. 2002-2006 was a perfect 100%.

To be fair, part of that percentage decline comes from a loss meaning more when the Noble Nine gets fewer matches against outsiders. Still, the Noble Nine has lost at least one match every contest since 2007 and if you don't count the rallies of 2007/2013 then we've only seen this many Noble Nine losses in 2008 -- a contest where they had ninety-six matches and the element of LFF.
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HaRRicH
12/04/18 12:07:40 AM
#103:


I'll wait until later to update how Noble Niners do against each other since Samus/Mario is close, but this is Samus's first match this contest against a fellow Noble Niner and it's against Mario who beat her three times in the past.
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HaRRicH
12/04/18 3:46:12 PM
#104:


The Noble Nine against themselves in 2018s contest (generally defined by full-day-format one-on-one matches with multiple polls per day and registered users getting double-votes + some days with only one poll per day) *INCOMPLETE*:

Mario - 2-0
Samus - 0-1
Sephiroth - 0-1
Link - n/a
Sonic - n/a
Solid Snake - n/a
Cloud - n/a
Mega Man - n/a
Crono - n/a

'Stache still brings the heat, but only barely by enough this time.
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Safer_777
12/04/18 4:26:39 PM
#105:


Since Sephiroth is out, can you post his biggest victory and his worst defeat? In fact can you do that every time a NN'er leaves this contest?
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HaRRicH
12/05/18 1:10:34 AM
#106:


I unfortunately cannot make the time for it right now, but I agree that would be rad information for anybody ready to pick up the idea and run with it.
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Link versus Cloud
12/05/18 1:52:15 AM
#107:


HaRRicH posted...


At this moment, the Noble Nine's win-loss percentage is doing almost 10% worse against outsiders than they ever have in a contest before. For comparison, 2013's record was 49-9 for 84.48%. 2007, 2008, and 2010 each had their records at 90+%. 2002-2006 was a perfect 100%.


Assuming MM hangs on I think from here on out we should see NN get wins on:
MM>Pika, Crono>Bowser, Samus>Tifa, Mario>Zelda, Samus>Zelda and finish at 17-4 for an 81% win rate.

This is without 8/9 getting the 4 wins in the main bracket like Seph got. If you added those 32 wins in, you would end up with the same 90+% records of 07/08/10 when all of the NN were in the main bracket. (it would still stay above 90 even if say Sonic dropped a 4th round match vs a strong upper midcarder like X or Luigi).
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HaRRicH
12/05/18 8:46:34 AM
#108:


I would rather assume the other eight Noble Niners get at least three easy wins rather than four so we don't have to imagine eight new gimme-divisions for them, putting them right about at that 90% mark. Still, your point is made.

Crono beats Bowser again, and while Mega Man is doing better I am not ready to call it for him yet. My blue blombin' heart has been broken before!
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FinalFantasyVII
12/05/18 8:55:20 AM
#109:


So basically the NN only loses to characters whose source material is in close proximity to another member (Link/Zelda and Cloud/Tifa and Vincent) or a character who has one-time super fad powers like Draven and L Block
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Safer_777
12/05/18 11:32:31 AM
#110:


@FinalFantasyVII Don't forget about Pikachu though. No NN'er ever was from the Pokemon franchise. However if you think about the Smash franchise then it is fair game.
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HaRRicH
12/05/18 10:41:38 PM
#111:


#NobleWatch

The Noble Nine against outsiders in 2018s contest (generally defined by full-day-format one-on-one matches with multiple polls per day and registered users getting double-votes + some days with only one poll per day) *INCOMPLETE*:

Link - 2-0
Samus - 2-0
Crono - 2-0
Cloud - 1-0
Sephiroth - 4-1
Mega Man - 2-1
Solid Snake - 1-1
Sonic - 1-1
Mario - n/a

In 2018 so far: 15-4

CURRENT RECORD so far: 15-4 (78.95%)

Mega Man exacts revenge on Pikachu, aw yeah. Crono beats down Bowser almost identically though, and Samus is smashing Tifa again similarly too.

Add three to the scoreboard.
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HaRRicH
12/05/18 10:47:56 PM
#112:


The Noble Nine against themselves in 2018s contest (generally defined by full-day-format one-on-one matches with multiple polls per day and registered users getting double-votes + some days with only one poll per day) *INCOMPLETE*:

Mario - 2-0
Solid Snake - 1-0
Samus - 0-1
Sephiroth - 0-1
Sonic - 0-1
Link - n/a
Cloud - n/a
Mega Man - n/a
Crono - n/a

Solid Snake is mad and is trying to redeem himsekf after losing to Zelda by beating Sonic as hard as he can...which, right now, looks to be pretty much equal to Zelda's performance. Between this and seeing how similarly some of these other rematches have been going, expect an excellent rematch between Snake and Zelda if they cross paths again.
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TsunamiXXVIII
12/05/18 11:52:21 PM
#113:


Safer_777 posted...
@FinalFantasyVII Don't forget about Pikachu though. No NN'er ever was from the Pokemon franchise. However if you think about the Smash franchise then it is fair game.


Not just Pikachu. Mewtwo and Squirtle both beat Noble Niners in 2013, and Missingno beat Crono in 2010 (though it also falls under "one-time fad powers", unlike the other members of its franchise.)
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Waluigi1
12/06/18 2:03:08 AM
#114:


Why having matches coincide with each other effect the outcome? I just don't see why that would be.
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HaRRicH
12/06/18 8:40:31 AM
#115:


The theory is if you have to vote in every match each day instead of just the matches you want to each day, the matches that would normally have less interest now have a new influx of votes that probably favor the more recognizable character.

It's not confirmed, but it makes some sense after seeing Pac-Man as well as Crash and Spyro.
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HaRRicH
12/07/18 1:00:43 AM
#116:


Update tomorrow, but good lord at today.
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HaRRicH
12/07/18 7:25:21 AM
#117:


The Noble Nine against themselves in 2018s contest (generally defined by full-day-format one-on-one matches with multiple polls per day and registered users getting double-votes + some days with only one poll per day) *INCOMPLETE*:

Mario - 2-0
Link - 1-0
Solid Snake - 1-0
Samus - 0-1
Cloud - 0-1
Sephiroth - 0-1
Sonic - 0-1
Mega Man - n/a
Crono - n/a

Link's twelfth win over Cloud is his biggest win one-on-one over him. Wow.
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squexa
12/07/18 9:12:48 AM
#118:


Are you missing the Cloud vs Crono match? Cloud should have a win and Crono a loss.
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HaRRicH
12/07/18 1:26:54 PM
#119:


Yep, sorry, must have messed up with pasting something.

Cloud - 1-1
Crono - 0-1
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Wreath
12/07/18 4:15:20 PM
#120:


Noble 9 is dead leave it alone already
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HaRRicH
12/07/18 6:17:36 PM
#121:


Noble Nine is foreva.

Can't stop, won't stop.
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nokillingmoths
12/07/18 6:23:42 PM
#122:


HaRRicH posted...
The Noble Nine against themselves in 2018s contest (generally defined by full-day-format one-on-one matches with multiple polls per day and registered users getting double-votes + some days with only one poll per day) *INCOMPLETE*:

Mario - 2-0
Link - 1-0
Solid Snake - 1-0
Samus - 0-1
Cloud - 0-1
Sephiroth - 0-1
Sonic - 0-1
Mega Man - n/a
Crono - n/a

Link's twelfth win over Cloud is his biggest win one-on-one over him. Wow.


Said this in another thread but there have been 19 zelda games since cloud was the main character in ff7, including last years worldy on the switch. Its amazing hes doing so well still really.
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OrangeCrush980
12/07/18 6:44:13 PM
#123:


My random Noble Nine fact:

If it weren't for Cloud just barely losing to Mario in 2002, Link and Cloud would still be undefeated in 1v1 matches (besides against each other)
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User728
12/07/18 7:20:59 PM
#124:


Wreath posted...
Noble 9 is dead leave it alone already

Shut up. Im tracking this topic. I almost never use the track function. Its a good topic.
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chocoboslayer
12/07/18 7:28:57 PM
#125:


I've enjoyed the hell out of this topic.
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Wreath
12/07/18 8:05:23 PM
#126:


User728 posted...
Wreath posted...
Noble 9 is dead leave it alone already

Shut up. Im tracking this topic. I almost never use the track function. Its a good topic.


The part where people argue over a dead legion?

Ya but noble 9 are live cause ************???
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Safer_777
12/07/18 8:07:14 PM
#127:


The term matters. Doesn't matter if they lose you know. The term will remain.
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Wreath
12/07/18 8:07:41 PM
#128:


Safer_777 posted...
The term matters. Doesn't matter if they lose you know. The term will remain.


Then is defunct and is pointless and useless
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squexa
12/07/18 8:08:02 PM
#129:


Wreath posted...
The part where people argue over a dead legion?

Ya but noble 9 are live cause ************???


It's just for fun dude.

I think this topic is great!
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Wreath
12/07/18 8:09:06 PM
#130:


squexa posted...
Wreath posted...
The part where people argue over a dead legion?

Ya but noble 9 are live cause ************???


It's just for fun dude.

I think this topic is great!


The whole contest is for fun but when it's taken seriously that's also fine but then maybe have actual boundaries and realistic stats?
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User728
12/07/18 8:14:12 PM
#131:


Wreath posted...
User728 posted...
Wreath posted...
Noble 9 is dead leave it alone already

Shut up. Im tracking this topic. I almost never use the track function. Its a good topic.


The part where people argue over a dead legion?

Ya but noble 9 are live cause ************???

No one is arguing over it and no one is saying theyre currently the 9 strongest.
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Wreath
12/07/18 8:17:06 PM
#132:


User728 posted...
Wreath posted...
User728 posted...
Wreath posted...
Noble 9 is dead leave it alone already

Shut up. Im tracking this topic. I almost never use the track function. Its a good topic.


The part where people argue over a dead legion?

Ya but noble 9 are live cause ************???

No one is arguing over it and no one is saying theyre currently the 9 strongest.


So let's label the top 3 fruit !!

But they arent really top 3 for taste, production, sales, well anything we are doing it for... well uhh theres literally no reason
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Averia
12/07/18 8:17:22 PM
#133:


Let's not say they are now super weak.
I mean, even considering it has been a terrible contest for them, they only dropped matches to Pikachu, Zelda and Tifa (and possible rSFF in that case), those are not Guybrushes and they would still beat most of the field.
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Wreath
12/07/18 8:18:38 PM
#134:


Averia posted...
Let's not say they are now super weak.
I mean, even considering it has been a terrible contest for them, they only dropped matches to Pikachu, Zelda and Tifa (and possible rSFF in that case), those are not Guybrushes and they would still beat most of the field.


Noble9 meant never lost to anyone but the group. It's been dead for YEARS stop clinging to it and making excuses it's pointless let it go

LEEET ITTTT GOOOO
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Averia
12/07/18 8:20:56 PM
#135:


Wreath posted...
Averia posted...
Let's not say they are now super weak.
I mean, even considering it has been a terrible contest for them, they only dropped matches to Pikachu, Zelda and Tifa (and possible rSFF in that case), those are not Guybrushes and they would still beat most of the field.


Noble9 meant never lost to anyone but the group. It's been dead for YEARS stop clinging to it and making excuses it's pointless let it go

LEEET ITTTT GOOOO


Nope;
Noble 9 is now just a list of 9 characters.
The streak is dead (and has been dead for a long time , it's just the asteriques that died this years) but it's still relevant.
The very fact they were the 1 seed in 2013 and in Legends this year mean the concept isn't dead.
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HaRRicH
12/07/18 8:22:18 PM
#136:


I bet apples and oranges were the top two fruit for a long time. Even though here in 2018 we all know the top two are actually pineapples and kiwis, we still use the phrase "comparing apples and oranges" because we know what the phrase means.
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Wreath
12/07/18 8:23:19 PM
#137:


Averia posted...
Wreath posted...
Averia posted...
Let's not say they are now super weak.
I mean, even considering it has been a terrible contest for them, they only dropped matches to Pikachu, Zelda and Tifa (and possible rSFF in that case), those are not Guybrushes and they would still beat most of the field.


Noble9 meant never lost to anyone but the group. It's been dead for YEARS stop clinging to it and making excuses it's pointless let it go

LEEET ITTTT GOOOO


Nope;
Noble 9 is now just a list of 9 characters.
The streak is dead (and has been dead for a long time , it's just the asteriques that died this years) but it's still relevant.
The very fact they were the 1 seed in 2013 and in Legends this year mean the concept isn't dead.


Wait your holding onto asterisks

Well let's make some more

Noble9 never lost to Kratos*****

NOBLE NINE SO LEGENDARY NEVER A LOSS SO COOL SO UNDEFEATED THE EPITOME OF CHARACTER BATTLES THE EPITOME OF GREATNESS*******
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Averia
12/07/18 8:26:42 PM
#138:


Wreath posted...
Averia posted...
Wreath posted...
Averia posted...
Let's not say they are now super weak.
I mean, even considering it has been a terrible contest for them, they only dropped matches to Pikachu, Zelda and Tifa (and possible rSFF in that case), those are not Guybrushes and they would still beat most of the field.


Noble9 meant never lost to anyone but the group. It's been dead for YEARS stop clinging to it and making excuses it's pointless let it go

LEEET ITTTT GOOOO


Nope;
Noble 9 is now just a list of 9 characters.
The streak is dead (and has been dead for a long time , it's just the asteriques that died this years) but it's still relevant.
The very fact they were the 1 seed in 2013 and in Legends this year mean the concept isn't dead.


Wait your holding onto asterisks

Well let's make some more

Noble9 never lost to Kratos*****

NOBLE NINE SO LEGENDARY NEVER A LOSS SO COOL SO UNDEFEATED THE EPITOME OF CHARACTER BATTLES THE EPITOME OF GREATNESS*******


I said there were asteriques years ago.
Technically the "pure" noble nine in 2007. 2010 if you want 1v1. 2018 if you want 24h 1v1.
But it doesn't matter.

Let's say Crono became a joke and lost round 1 against Reimu.
He would STILL be in the Noble Nine.
At this point, it's just a list, it doesn't imply that they are undefeated or even that strong.
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User728
12/07/18 8:27:29 PM
#139:


What is wrong with this guy?
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Waluigi1
12/07/18 8:45:09 PM
#140:


Chill out, geez. Why are you getting so worked up over it??
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Wreath
12/07/18 8:46:56 PM
#141:


Waluigi1 posted...
Chill out, geez. Why are you getting so worked up over it??


It makes no sense to act like something exists when it's been dead forever
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MetalmindStats
12/07/18 9:28:32 PM
#142:


Wreath posted...
Waluigi1 posted...
Chill out, geez. Why are you getting so worked up over it??


It makes no sense to act like something exists when it's been dead forever

What you don't get is that the Noble Nine is a historical concept. Back in the days of 2002-2006, these nine characters were undefeated except against each other (and genuinely the nine strongest characters of the era), and they made every single character battle in that span. Even if their streak has been dead since 2007, it doesn't change the fact of the Noble Nine being a thing. It just means they're no longer undefeated against outsiders, and now no longer the nine strongest (unrallied) characters in these contests.
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HaRRicH
12/07/18 11:25:59 PM
#143:


Wreath posted...
Waluigi1 posted...
Chill out, geez. Why are you getting so worked up over it??


It makes no sense to act like something exists when it's been dead forever


Welp, George Washington's been dead long before the Noble Nine were created. Guess America never had a first President.
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STEROLIZER
12/08/18 1:34:32 AM
#144:


Is there a complete ranking somewhere. Like all contestants ranked 1-400?
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MetalmindStats
12/08/18 1:47:52 AM
#145:


STEROLIZER posted...
Is there a complete ranking somewhere. Like all contestants ranked 1-400?

This is probably the closest thing to what you're looking for (with adjustments):

http://www.thengamer.com/xstats/ranks.php?type=c

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Nanis23
12/08/18 1:55:14 AM
#146:


MetalmindStats posted...

What you don't get is that the Noble Nine is a historical concept

So can we stop using it in 2018?
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Logience
12/08/18 2:01:26 AM
#147:


>User since: Sep 2018

Yeah, totally not a troll.
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Commodore
12/08/18 6:02:46 AM
#148:


I'm disappointed you all even responded to him the first time.
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Dorami
12/08/18 7:14:18 AM
#149:


On a less confrontational note...

Suppose Zelda beats Mario today and goes onto beat Cloud in the loser's finals, would that make her the character who is most successful against the NN (in # of distinct characters beaten or # of matches won)?
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Safer_777
12/08/18 7:27:28 AM
#150:


Well she has already beaten 2 NNers so she is already really good.
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Averia
12/08/18 7:33:02 AM
#151:


If you count lol 3-ways and rallies in account, Draven beat Link, Sephiroth, Samus and Snake.
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