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A_Good_Boy
11/30/18 3:39:00 PM
#154:


Funbazooka posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Funbazooka posted...
I suspect that people who don't believe in the existence of left-wing fake news feed upon a steady diet of fake left-wing news. Extremely gullible, extremely brainwashed.

Woah now, the dude that lives and breathes in right wing troll memes is here to lecture us about the proliferation of divisive political news!

Calm down. Memes aren't news. They're just memes.

And not even a hint of irony.
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Tyranthraxus
11/30/18 3:40:18 PM
#155:


Bobemmo posted...
So most people here think it's clearly not ok for google to show only certain news articles to manipulate people to vote a certain way. Yet I suspect most people would be fine with say, an acquaintance linking them only news articles with a certain slant with the intention of motivating them to vote a certain way.

At what point does it become not ok? Is it because google is a company, and not just a person? Is it because google is too big of a company?

not trying to just be inflammatory here this is actually a serious question


If you think this isn't okay for Google, then we should probably block Sinclair from doing must runs and let the local station management decide what to air on their own.
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FLUFFYGERM
11/30/18 3:40:54 PM
#156:


Giant_Aspirin posted...
andel posted...
another "totally moderate that doesnt support trump" yet somehow echoes all of his talking points and shills for him constantly


that's not true. PC is openly opposed to Trump and most of the GOP when it comes to climate change, for example.


thanks brother

Antifar posted...
Google's power and influence has to be challenged and ultimately limited.


imagine Antifar having the right take for once but andel just flailing around. wtf is going on today?
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FLUFFYGERM
11/30/18 3:41:15 PM
#157:


A_Good_Boy posted...
It's just downright bizarre that he feels as if the solution to ameliorating man's effects on the climate isn't to actually do anything about it, but for SpaceX to build us rockets that'll have us living in space instead.


What in the Good Lord's name are you blabbering about, buddy?
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Tmaster148
11/30/18 3:41:38 PM
#158:


Bobemmo posted...
At what point does it become not ok? Is it because google is a company, and not just a person? Is it because google is too big of a company?


The US has ruled corporations are people.
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cmiller4642
11/30/18 3:41:51 PM
#159:


And nothing of value was lost....
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Funbazooka
11/30/18 3:43:54 PM
#160:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Funbazooka posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Funbazooka posted...
I suspect that people who don't believe in the existence of left-wing fake news feed upon a steady diet of fake left-wing news. Extremely gullible, extremely brainwashed.

Woah now, the dude that lives and breathes in right wing troll memes is here to lecture us about the proliferation of divisive political news!

Calm down. Memes aren't news. They're just memes.

And not even a hint of irony.

Heretical and outrageous memes.
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A_Good_Boy
11/30/18 3:47:14 PM
#161:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
It's just downright bizarre that he feels as if the solution to ameliorating man's effects on the climate isn't to actually do anything about it, but for SpaceX to build us rockets that'll have us living in space instead.


What in the Good Lord's name are you blabbering about, buddy?

Eh, must have been something you were posting about half heartedly some time ago.
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Tmaster148
11/30/18 3:48:25 PM
#162:


A_Good_Boy posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
It's just downright bizarre that he feels as if the solution to ameliorating man's effects on the climate isn't to actually do anything about it, but for SpaceX to build us rockets that'll have us living in space instead.


What in the Good Lord's name are you blabbering about, buddy?

Eh, must have been something you were posting about half heartedly some time ago.


Proudclad stated in another topic he denies that capatalism had any effect on climate change.
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FLUFFYGERM
11/30/18 3:48:26 PM
#163:


A_Good_Boy posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
It's just downright bizarre that he feels as if the solution to ameliorating man's effects on the climate isn't to actually do anything about it, but for SpaceX to build us rockets that'll have us living in space instead.


What in the Good Lord's name are you blabbering about, buddy?

Eh, must have been something you were posting about half heartedly some time ago.


I'm pretty much the only person on this board who is consistently sharing articles about electric vehicles, solar panels, innovations in carbon sequestration, market movements, etc.
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Tyranthraxus
11/30/18 3:51:16 PM
#164:


Tmaster148 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
It's just downright bizarre that he feels as if the solution to ameliorating man's effects on the climate isn't to actually do anything about it, but for SpaceX to build us rockets that'll have us living in space instead.


What in the Good Lord's name are you blabbering about, buddy?

Eh, must have been something you were posting about half heartedly some time ago.


Proudclad stated in another topic he denies that capatalism had any effect on climate change.


aside from all the articles he's posted about how capitalist markets have created industries for clean energy because of the demand for it?
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FLUFFYGERM
11/30/18 3:53:45 PM
#165:


Tmaster is just displaying his inability to comprehend basic English. Can disregard.
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HiddenLurker
11/30/18 3:55:53 PM
#166:


So are they saying liberals are stupid as fuck that they to need to rely on facebook for news?
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Tmaster148
11/30/18 3:56:42 PM
#167:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
It's just downright bizarre that he feels as if the solution to ameliorating man's effects on the climate isn't to actually do anything about it, but for SpaceX to build us rockets that'll have us living in space instead.


What in the Good Lord's name are you blabbering about, buddy?

Eh, must have been something you were posting about half heartedly some time ago.


Proudclad stated in another topic he denies that capatalism had any effect on climate change.


aside from all the articles he's posted about how capitalist markets have created industries for clean energy because of the demand for it?


Yes.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77252529/913264516

In before conflating capitalism and climate change.

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Nuffinz0rz
11/30/18 3:57:02 PM
#168:


What's illegal about it?
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Tyranthraxus
11/30/18 3:57:40 PM
#169:


Tmaster148 posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
It's just downright bizarre that he feels as if the solution to ameliorating man's effects on the climate isn't to actually do anything about it, but for SpaceX to build us rockets that'll have us living in space instead.


What in the Good Lord's name are you blabbering about, buddy?

Eh, must have been something you were posting about half heartedly some time ago.


Proudclad stated in another topic he denies that capatalism had any effect on climate change.


aside from all the articles he's posted about how capitalist markets have created industries for clean energy because of the demand for it?


Yes.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77252529/913264516


That is not even fucking remotely close to "capitalism has had no effect on climate change"
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Antifar
11/30/18 3:59:31 PM
#170:


HiddenLurker posted...
So are they saying liberals are stupid as fuck that they to need to rely on facebook for news?

That claim wouldn't really mesh with the metrics we have available: https://twitter.com/kevinroose/status/1064633264416219136
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Tmaster148
11/30/18 4:08:58 PM
#171:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
It's just downright bizarre that he feels as if the solution to ameliorating man's effects on the climate isn't to actually do anything about it, but for SpaceX to build us rockets that'll have us living in space instead.


What in the Good Lord's name are you blabbering about, buddy?

Eh, must have been something you were posting about half heartedly some time ago.


Proudclad stated in another topic he denies that capatalism had any effect on climate change.


aside from all the articles he's posted about how capitalist markets have created industries for clean energy because of the demand for it?


Yes.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77252529/913264516


That is not even fucking remotely close to "capitalism has had no effect on climate change"


If you are still not convinced

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77252529/913264977

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77252529/913264977

Proudclad doesn't believe capitalism had any influence on climate change but will go out of his way to praise it for solving the issue it helped create.
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Kineth
11/30/18 4:19:13 PM
#172:


GreatEvilEmpire posted...
I see all the CE-losers are advocating for propaganda has long as it suits their narrow agenda.


Nice victimhood bruh.
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andel
11/30/18 4:20:03 PM
#173:


was proudclod also the one that was an open young earth creationist?
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Tmaster148
11/30/18 4:22:02 PM
#174:


andel posted...
was proudclod also the one that was an open young earth creationist?


Idk about that, but he's stated he doesn't want to enforce vaccinations because of the government.
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Tyranthraxus
11/30/18 4:22:31 PM
#175:


Tmaster148 posted...


If you are still not convinced

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77252529/913264977

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77252529/913264977

Proudclad doesn't believe capitalism had any influence on climate change but will go out of his way to praise it for solving the issue it helped create.


That's flat out not what he said, it's not even close to what he said. You can't even fucking accidentally misconstrue that as what he said you are just making shit up and saying he said it and then linking me to posts where he just didn't say that.
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Tyranthraxus
11/30/18 4:23:22 PM
#176:


andel posted...
was proudclod also the one that was an open young earth creationist?

He was never a YEC but he doesn't believe that religion anymore at all.
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Kineth
11/30/18 4:24:05 PM
#177:


andel posted...
was proudclod also the one that was an open young earth creationist?


No, that was FlashofLight.
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Tmaster148
11/30/18 4:24:32 PM
#178:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Tmaster148 posted...


If you are still not convinced

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77252529/913264977

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77252529/913264977

Proudclad doesn't believe capitalism had any influence on climate change but will go out of his way to praise it for solving the issue it helped create.


That's flat out not what he said, it's not even close to what he said. You can't even fucking accidentally misconstrue that as what he said you are just making shit up and saying he said it and then linking me to posts where he just didn't say that.


It appears I messed up the copy paste.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77252529/913269042

This was suppose to be the second link.
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Tyranthraxus
11/30/18 4:26:27 PM
#179:


Tmaster148 posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Tmaster148 posted...


If you are still not convinced

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77252529/913264977

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77252529/913264977

Proudclad doesn't believe capitalism had any influence on climate change but will go out of his way to praise it for solving the issue it helped create.


That's flat out not what he said, it's not even close to what he said. You can't even fucking accidentally misconstrue that as what he said you are just making shit up and saying he said it and then linking me to posts where he just didn't say that.


It appears I messed up the copy paste.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77252529/913269042

This was suppose to be the second link.


That sure sounds like he's saying capitalism did have an effect on climate change--just that capitalism isn't unique in its share of blame for our current climate conditions.
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Tmaster148
11/30/18 4:30:49 PM
#180:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Tmaster148 posted...


If you are still not convinced

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77252529/913264977

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77252529/913264977

Proudclad doesn't believe capitalism had any influence on climate change but will go out of his way to praise it for solving the issue it helped create.


That's flat out not what he said, it's not even close to what he said. You can't even fucking accidentally misconstrue that as what he said you are just making shit up and saying he said it and then linking me to posts where he just didn't say that.


It appears I messed up the copy paste.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/77252529/913269042

This was suppose to be the second link.


That sure sounds like he's saying capitalism did have an effect on climate change--just that capitalism isn't unique in its share of blame for our current climate conditions.


Given how quick he was to jump at defending capatalism and climate change in post 2 of the communism topic and that post.

I have the feeling he intentionally goes out of his way to ignore the failures of capitalism.

And while I won't say capitalism is the only one at fault. Capitalism sure had a big impact due to the nature of the system and there was quite the push back from oil companies to work on renewables because they would lose money from it.
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HHH is the game
11/30/18 4:36:29 PM
#181:


Did anybody actually read the article?

https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/29/google-censorship-conservative-media/

Its being totally misconstrued....

I dont see how people could have a problem with this convo which btw they didnt do anything it was just employees discussing their opinions internally in a company of thousands
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Tyranthraxus
11/30/18 4:40:48 PM
#182:


Tmaster148 posted...
Given how quick he was to jump at defending capatalism and climate change in post 2 of the communism topic and that post.

I have the feeling he intentionally goes out of his way to ignore the failures of capitalism.

And while I won't say capitalism is the only one at fault. Capitalism sure had a big impact due to the nature of the system and there was quite the push back from oil companies to work on renewables because they would lose money from it.


I am nowhere near as invested in capitalism as he is, and don't really care to have a historical economic analysis over what and why the contributions to carbon dioxide were as large as they are, but ultimately the point remains that countries who were not capitalist also contributed to climate change, in some cases, a great deal. China's horrible smog conditions, which admittedly have improved only recently, are the result of heavy handed communist industrial practices. He ignores the faults of capitalism but the current state of climate isn't the fault of capitalism.

What he was trying to say there is that saying Capitalism caused climate change doesn't make sense, and he's right--not that it had no impact on it. It not only had an impact, but it's also having a positive impact due to industrial opportunities in green energy only because of the free market demands.

You're confusing the cause (namely, burning shit) with the tools to make it happen (capitalism).
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Axiom
11/30/18 4:41:04 PM
#183:


HHH is the game posted...
Did anybody actually read the article?

https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/29/google-censorship-conservative-media/

Its being totally misconstrued....

I dont see how people could have a problem with this convo which btw they didnt do anything it was just employees discussing their opinions internally in a company of thousands

News organizations like them are fake news factories so of course it was misconstrued and the dailycaller is right at the top of the shit pile. Everyone that wants legitimate news should have no problem with them being buried
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HiddenLurker
11/30/18 4:41:08 PM
#184:


Antifar posted...
HiddenLurker posted...
So are they saying liberals are stupid as fuck that they to need to rely on facebook for news?

That claim wouldn't really mesh with the metrics we have available: https://twitter.com/kevinroose/status/1064633264416219136

Yeah well facebook employees disagree if they feel it necessary to push liberal articles and news to their members and hide or dismiss conservative articles.
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HHH is the game
11/30/18 4:43:19 PM
#185:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Bobemmo posted...
So most people here think it's clearly not ok for google to show only certain news articles to manipulate people to vote a certain way. Yet I suspect most people would be fine with say, an acquaintance linking them only news articles with a certain slant with the intention of motivating them to vote a certain way.

At what point does it become not ok? Is it because google is a company, and not just a person? Is it because google is too big of a company?

not trying to just be inflammatory here this is actually a serious question


If you think this isn't okay for Google, then we should probably block Sinclair from doing must runs and let the local station management decide what to air on their own.


A. The actual article with quotes doesnt show google almost did this but a private email thread with a google employee making suggestions. An employee making a suggestion that the company rejects is not almost doing something.

B. If you actually read it they were talking about fixing their algorithms so fake news is not put up top with valid sources. Somebody disagreed with him that those opinion blogs were fake news but the motivation was not bury the right but dont let sensational articles that are spouting nonsense be pushed to the top. How is that bad?
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Antifar
11/30/18 4:43:50 PM
#186:


HiddenLurker posted...
Yeah well facebook employees disagree if they feel it necessary to push liberal articles and news to their members and hide or dismiss conservative articles.

On what basis are you making this claim?
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andel
11/30/18 4:44:17 PM
#187:


HiddenLurker posted...
Antifar posted...
HiddenLurker posted...
So are they saying liberals are stupid as fuck that they to need to rely on facebook for news?

That claim wouldn't really mesh with the metrics we have available: https://twitter.com/kevinroose/status/1064633264416219136

Yeah well facebook employees disagree if they feel it necessary to push liberal articles and news to their members and hide or dismiss conservative articles.


this lazy, tired talking point has been endlessly disproven and somehow the same people keep trotting it out
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Tyranthraxus
11/30/18 4:46:01 PM
#188:


HHH is the game posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Bobemmo posted...
So most people here think it's clearly not ok for google to show only certain news articles to manipulate people to vote a certain way. Yet I suspect most people would be fine with say, an acquaintance linking them only news articles with a certain slant with the intention of motivating them to vote a certain way.

At what point does it become not ok? Is it because google is a company, and not just a person? Is it because google is too big of a company?

not trying to just be inflammatory here this is actually a serious question


If you think this isn't okay for Google, then we should probably block Sinclair from doing must runs and let the local station management decide what to air on their own.


A. The actual article with quotes doesnt show google almost did this but a private email thread with a google employee making suggestions. An employee making a suggestion that the company rejects is not almost doing something.

B. If you actually read it they were talking about fixing their algorithms so fake news is not put up top with valid sources. Somebody disagreed with him that those opinion blogs were fake news but the motivation was not bury the right but dont let sensational articles that are spouting nonsense be pushed to the top. How is that bad?


A: We are discussing a hypothetical situation in which Google manipulates what news you're even allowed to see through their search engines

B: How is it good that sinclair broadcasting forces must run op eds on anchors who don't actually hold those opinions themselves?
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HHH is the game
11/30/18 4:46:30 PM
#189:


I mean judging how they talked about not showing this blog and then the blog completely warps and sensationalized the facts so everybody here believes something that didnt happen (when I can actually access the site without being directed to an inescapable mobile ad that wont even let me go back to the original page) I have to say that Im with google on this one and this blog is proving their point
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HHH is the game
11/30/18 4:48:19 PM
#190:


Tyranthraxus posted...
HHH is the game posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Bobemmo posted...
So most people here think it's clearly not ok for google to show only certain news articles to manipulate people to vote a certain way. Yet I suspect most people would be fine with say, an acquaintance linking them only news articles with a certain slant with the intention of motivating them to vote a certain way.

At what point does it become not ok? Is it because google is a company, and not just a person? Is it because google is too big of a company?

not trying to just be inflammatory here this is actually a serious question


If you think this isn't okay for Google, then we should probably block Sinclair from doing must runs and let the local station management decide what to air on their own.


A. The actual article with quotes doesnt show google almost did this but a private email thread with a google employee making suggestions. An employee making a suggestion that the company rejects is not almost doing something.

B. If you actually read it they were talking about fixing their algorithms so fake news is not put up top with valid sources. Somebody disagreed with him that those opinion blogs were fake news but the motivation was not bury the right but dont let sensational articles that are spouting nonsense be pushed to the top. How is that bad?


A: We are discussing a hypothetical situation in which Google manipulates what news you're even allowed to see through their search engines

B: How is it good that sinclair broadcasting forces must run op eds on anchors who don't actually hold those opinions themselves?


a. Fine but Im saying that the hypothetical situation was never happening. This article IS fake news and it even quotes directly so you can see how theyre warping it in the article itself.

B. I dont get what youre saying here. Im saying eliminating fake news is good. Legitimate right blogs should stay but articles like this one should not be put up with legitimate news sources
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HHH is the game
11/30/18 4:50:59 PM
#191:


The evil guy theyre quoting literally says That happens at MSNBC, too. I dont want a political judgement. The desire is to break the myth feedback loop, the false equivalency, instead of the current amplification of it, Byer added.

And that was the guy MOST in favor of this and the rest argued against him.

The discussion was about sorting through the BS letting people see legitimate sources and decide for themselves whats true. But trying to de emphasize sensational opinion pieces like the one here that leads people astray.
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Tyranthraxus
11/30/18 4:55:19 PM
#192:


I mean I don't really care about the contents of the article. I am discussing from a fundamental standpoint whether or not it's okay content delivery platforms to curate content on their own.

Obviously it's within Google's right to deliver the content they want to deliver, which includes putting info wars on the 9th page of search results at best--but I was mostly pointing out how the people who are typically "not okay" with Google this tend to not care about what Sinclair does in regards to the opinion-as-news industry.
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refmon
11/30/18 4:58:12 PM
#193:


Was this whole liberal thing just another way for the high ups to gain even more power?
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Dat_Cracka_Jax
11/30/18 6:31:51 PM
#194:


Damn_Underscore posted...
Doom_Art posted...
The people who are against corporate personhood are now content that a corporation is behaving like a person


Fixed

From a 2010 ABC-Washington Post poll regarding the Citizens United ruling

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Exactly. He seems okay with it now when it suits his interests
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