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knightoffire55
11/30/18 3:32:11 PM
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they have more action
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Dash_Harber
11/30/18 3:35:01 PM
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Both have their pros and cons. Old Star Trek fans tend to make the originals sacrosanct, but they had their flaws as well. Realistically, though, the new ones had some great moments and tributes to the old ones, and people need to stop being such firebrands for the era of any media work they are nostalgic for.
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Makeveli_lives
11/30/18 3:35:12 PM
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The original are corny as fuck
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Anarchy_Juiblex
11/30/18 3:35:24 PM
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Which originals?

Because there are plenty that they beat.
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fjb
11/30/18 3:35:25 PM
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It's true
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BruceWayneJr
11/30/18 3:38:00 PM
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Your son doesn't exist.
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KILBOTz
11/30/18 3:38:58 PM
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Star Trek shows were good, Star Trek movies weren't.
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Dash_Harber
11/30/18 3:40:45 PM
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KILBOTz posted...
Star Trek shows were good, Star Trek movies weren't.


I also feel the need to point out that every single show also had some significantly stupid and awful episodes. Even the sacrosanct Next Gen had some ridiculously bad episodes that everyone tries to pretend didn't happen.

It's like the people that pretend that Star Trek never did goofy action with paper thin plots and ridiculous acting. They are just blindly ignoring some significantly bad episodes in favor of this 'Star Trek is supposed to be 100% cerebral' rhetoric.
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emblem boy
11/30/18 3:41:30 PM
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I've never actually seen the original start trek movies, but I've loved all the series (haven't seen TOS though)

And I haven't been a fan of the new movies
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Dash_Harber
11/30/18 3:42:27 PM
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emblem boy posted...
(haven't seen TOS though)


emblem boy posted...

And I haven't been a fan of the new movies


Considering that the new movies are basically retellings of TOS, that may be a factor.
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Unite
11/30/18 3:49:18 PM
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jj Abrams version of Star Trek isnt Star Trek
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Dash_Harber
11/30/18 3:49:54 PM
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Unite posted...
jj Abrams version of Star Trek isnt Star Trek


How so?
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GreatEvilEmpire
11/30/18 3:56:45 PM
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Your son is right, at least for the 2009 reboot.

The old Star Trek movies were pretty bad. I love old movies, but the Star Trek movies did not age well.

Edit: I watched Wrath of Khan (considered by many as the best Star Trek movie) last year and it was mediocre at best.
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Kitt
11/30/18 4:00:29 PM
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The only Star Trek anything I've ever watched was Beyond and I was surprised by how much I ended up liking it. I might check out the other two movies at some point.
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DevsBro
11/30/18 4:02:44 PM
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Star Trek 09 was better than Star Trek 2 or 3.
Into Darkness was not.
Beyond was so dang stupid it was funny.
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GreatEvilEmpire
11/30/18 4:03:00 PM
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CloneTheHero posted...
and you think this cgi crap will? lol.


The 2009 version had a pretty good story. The CGI is still top notch when compared to what's out there today.
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MC_BatCommander
11/30/18 4:12:56 PM
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I thought it was a pretty common consensus that most of the ST films are bad.
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LookANinja
11/30/18 4:37:17 PM
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Dash_Harber
11/30/18 4:42:35 PM
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CloneTheHero posted...
Unite posted...
jj Abrams version of Star Trek isnt Star Trek

true. abrams shit is 100% action pew pew scenes and little to no story. TOS films were probably all story with action sprinkled in where needed.


Except that classic Trek had plenty of pew-pew episodes with paper-thin plots and lots of action. There are multiple episodes where stupid, ridiculous plots were used as an excuse for action/sex appeal.
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Firewerx
11/30/18 5:29:48 PM
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It doesn't take an epic struggle to beat IV: The Voyage Home or V: The Final Frontier.
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Dash_Harber
11/30/18 7:07:21 PM
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CloneTheHero posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
CloneTheHero posted...
Unite posted...
jj Abrams version of Star Trek isnt Star Trek

true. abrams shit is 100% action pew pew scenes and little to no story. TOS films were probably all story with action sprinkled in where needed.


Except that classic Trek had plenty of pew-pew episodes with paper-thin plots and lots of action. There are multiple episodes where stupid, ridiculous plots were used as an excuse for action/sex appeal.

were talking about the films not the series.

Some of the movies aren't any better.

But really, the series are the most important part of Trek lore, anyway.
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masticatingman
11/30/18 7:08:37 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
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sylverlolol
11/30/18 7:09:09 PM
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Wrath of Khan is pretty much the only old one I can still stand to watch...and even then it has some egregiously slow parts. Your son is correct.
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BruceWayneJr
11/30/18 7:17:30 PM
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I really disliked the new Star Trek movies. I've seen most of the old ones and the tv shows.
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Southernfatman
11/30/18 7:19:40 PM
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I watched the old movies (and show) as a kid and loved them fine. WTF at people calling them bad. Only 5 was bad. The news ones aren't even Star Trek anyway.
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YookaLaylee
11/30/18 7:20:08 PM
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Makeveli_lives posted...
The original are corny as fuck

fjb posted...
It's true

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BruceWayneJr
11/30/18 7:30:06 PM
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1, 2, 3, 6 and First Contact are better than anything Abrams could ever produce.
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