Current Events > To opponents of UBI: What's your answer to automation?

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Garioshi
11/30/18 6:28:17 PM
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Automation is here and it's only getting bigger. Nearly every job you can think of will become automated at some point, and soon. Robots can simply do most human jobs better, with less errors, and more efficiently. This will result in a larger and larger amount of people who cannot get a job because they're strictly inferior to robots. UBI would fix this issue by giving everyone a regular income independently of the number of people who can work. How can you say no to that?
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joe_stalin518
11/30/18 6:30:13 PM
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The great American leap forward
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Ryuko_Chan
11/30/18 6:30:32 PM
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robots own
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monkmith
11/30/18 6:31:33 PM
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suicide.
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REMercsChamp
11/30/18 6:31:51 PM
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People can upgrade and make themselves relevant to society and get some skills other than brainless manual labor in 2019
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s0nicfan
11/30/18 6:32:05 PM
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The same answer to when people panicked over the creation of assembly lines: new industries will open up that require low skill workers that support or augment autonomy in ways that it cannot handle.
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RiderofHogs
11/30/18 6:33:16 PM
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WhinyZach posted...
get into a trade, robots aint building entire buildings any time soon

They have giant 3D printers that can do that now. Just need a handful of people to put it together.
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Dat_Cracka_Jax
11/30/18 6:33:23 PM
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Garioshi posted...
Automation is here and it's only getting bigger. Nearly every job you can think of will become automated at some point, and soon.


No. It's really not.
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Garioshi
11/30/18 6:38:54 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
The same answer to when people panicked over the creation of assembly lines: new industries will open up that require low skill workers that support or augment autonomy in ways that it cannot handle.

Automation is different. Robots can take over practically any low skill labor, including whatever might come out of automating all current low skill labor jobs.
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darkphoenix181
11/30/18 6:39:37 PM
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WhinyZach posted...
get into a trade, robots aint building entire buildings any time soon


A few years ago they had some drones that can.
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The Catgirl Fondler
11/30/18 6:41:34 PM
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Their answer is for low skill workers to hang themselves with their bootstraps.

Seriously, don't expect this audience to give a damn. "Fuck you, got mine" as they love to say.
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Megaman50100
11/30/18 6:41:43 PM
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It's not drying up the pool of jobs rather than raising the average skill requirements of jobs. Which is still a problem, just a different one.
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s0nicfan
11/30/18 6:45:16 PM
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Garioshi posted...
s0nicfan posted...
The same answer to when people panicked over the creation of assembly lines: new industries will open up that require low skill workers that support or augment autonomy in ways that it cannot handle.

Automation is different. Robots can take over practically any low skill labor, including whatever might come out of automating all current low skill labor jobs.


Not really, no. How much do you actually know about autonomy and robotics?
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Pitlord_Special
11/30/18 6:47:00 PM
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Theres no real good answer that doesnt involve people being worth less than nothing and being treated as such

Problem with thinking the economic pyramid can just grow bigger, only with robots at the bottom and people in all the higher positions, is that the Earth and its resources are already being crushed under the foundation of what we have so making it bigger is just going to lead to a more spectacular collapse when it gives out from under us
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Rika_Furude
11/30/18 6:54:17 PM
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WhinyZach posted...
RiderofHogs posted...
WhinyZach posted...
get into a trade, robots aint building entire buildings any time soon

They have giant 3D printers that can do that now. Just need a handful of people to put it together.


lol

darkphoenix181 posted...
WhinyZach posted...
get into a trade, robots aint building entire buildings any time soon


A few years ago they had some drones that can.


lol

lol what? both of those are literal facts. they already 3d print buildings in china
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EliteC
11/30/18 6:54:55 PM
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WhinyZach posted...
get into a trade, robots aint building entire buildings any time soon


3D printing say hi
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monkmith
11/30/18 6:56:17 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
i'd presume they would want government regulation limiting automation, more of the same kind of regulations they have always lobbied for that are pro-business and pro-capitalist at any cost, whether it be the environment, technological progress, personal liberty, etc. (and this from the party that is supposedly against big government intervention, no less)

is there anything more pro-business then a machine that can work all day and doesn't get paid?
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nemu
11/30/18 6:57:28 PM
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That's nothing we need to worry about at present. If automation ever gets to the point of taking out most jobs, society will likely have progressed to a different kind of living. As of right now, every job that is replaced will open up several new ones.
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WinterFestival
11/30/18 7:00:24 PM
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EliteC posted...
WhinyZach posted...
get into a trade, robots aint building entire buildings any time soon


3D printing say hi

No it doesnt, it cant talk
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Blue_Dream87
11/30/18 7:03:17 PM
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I support UBI, but I can totally see society shifting more towards human/service-centric jobs that robots simply cannot do. Robots can automate, but we're all social creatures and most of us would rather turn to a human being instead of some machinery we can't relate to.
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averagejoel
11/30/18 11:04:28 PM
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fully automated luxury communism
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