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awesome999
12/06/18 5:45:21 AM
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Rape by deception, lock him up
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SaithSayer
12/06/18 5:49:20 AM
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awesome999 posted...
Rape by deception, lock him up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IpHHtl8gC4" data-time="&start=3
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Kineth
12/06/18 5:49:25 AM
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UnhndredDescole posted...
I thought it was a crime

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SaithSayer
12/06/18 5:52:37 AM
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Kineth posted...
UnhndredDescole posted...
I thought it was a crime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKsNfccUTuk" data-time="
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awesome999
12/06/18 5:53:26 AM
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SaithSayer posted...
awesome999 posted...
Rape by deception, lock him up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IpHHtl8gC4" data-time="&start=3

Yes, a movie clip. Super compelling argument
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deupd_u
12/06/18 5:54:06 AM
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The ultimate case of "MUH BOYFRUND"
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SaithSayer
12/06/18 5:54:24 AM
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Because I sure was arguing. lol
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awesome999
12/06/18 5:56:13 AM
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SaithSayer posted...
Because I sure was arguing. lol

Do you really think I bothered to watch the clip? I recognised the guys in the thumbnail
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Kineth
12/06/18 5:58:39 AM
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Now that I think about it, did she tell her boyfriend? I would have figured that he would have just whooped his ass before this went to court.
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SaithSayer
12/06/18 5:59:36 AM
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That alone means the reference went through. lol

You'll understand my posting a lot more when you realize that it's almost entirely for my own amusement. If someone else laughs, cool. If not, that's fine too.
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The_OD
12/06/18 6:10:31 AM
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awesome999 posted...
Rape by deception, lock him up

Apparently only in Massachusetts and California.

the rest of the u.s. doesn't have any laws on rape by fraud, as detailed in the OP
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creativerealms
12/06/18 6:19:31 AM
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The_OD posted...
awesome999 posted...
Rape by deception, lock him up

Apparently only in Massachusetts and California.

the rest of the u.s. doesn't have any laws on rape by fraud, as detailed in the OP

That needs to be fixed.
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SaithSayer
12/06/18 6:22:06 AM
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creativerealms posted...
The_OD posted...
awesome999 posted...
Rape by deception, lock him up

Apparently only in Massachusetts and California.

the rest of the u.s. doesn't have any laws on rape by fraud, as detailed in the OP

That needs to be fixed.

What if a guy pretends to be successful, gets laid and then she finds out that he's broke as fuck and couch surfing? Gonna call that rape too?
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creativerealms
12/06/18 6:24:34 AM
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SaithSayer posted...
creativerealms posted...
The_OD posted...
awesome999 posted...
Rape by deception, lock him up

Apparently only in Massachusetts and California.

the rest of the u.s. doesn't have any laws on rape by fraud, as detailed in the OP

That needs to be fixed.

What if a guy pretends to be successful, gets laid and then she finds out that he's broke as fuck and couch surfing? Gonna call that rape too?

Situational of course. This was a unique situation where she thought it was her boyfriend and it wasn't.
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Raikuro
12/06/18 6:45:52 AM
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What does the boyfriend look like though. Maybe they looked similar to each other.
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SaithSayer
12/06/18 6:46:44 AM
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kayoticdreamz posted...
Full Throttle posted...
She is now taking time of school because of anxiety and nightmares and the Supreme Court Vote of Brett Kavanaugh didn't help matters either as she is now fighting to have this law changed for future victims.

I smell bullshit in this story. Throwing politics that have nothing to do with this into the story reeks of liberal news spin since in this case it is attacking republicans.

That said, if you consent, it is not rape nor should it be rape. There is no "Oh I thought you were someone else" crap. Like does your BF regularly just show up unannounced and start sticking his dick in you in the dark?

Full Throttle posted...
She stopped after a minute and was in shock when she returned to bed from the bathroom to find out it was his FRIEND there!!

She said "I remember him grinning at me. It was a freaky image. I was just kind of, i was frantic. i didn't know what was going on"


Then we have this.....she not only completes the act of sex, but gets up and is fine enough to use the bathroom and then and only then does she figure out it's not her BF?

SaithSayer posted...
Pay attention! She really doesn't know her boyfriend's touch? Most people don't even have to look..


This. You really should be able to figure out it's not your BF by his mannerisms and touch.

Rather than white knighting for this girl who you will never any with, let's take a step back, breathe and ask ourselves if this story makes sense. Which it doesn't.
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SaithSayer
12/06/18 7:08:55 AM
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eston
12/06/18 7:24:47 AM
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I remember when when of the good guys did this in Revenge of the Nerds, and she was okay with it because he was good at teh sex
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ImmatureContent
12/06/18 7:38:25 AM
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"Donald even told police he knew Abigail thought he was her boyfriend and that was why she allowed him to have sex."

That is all you need to read. It doesn't matter if you think the girl should have realized or not. No other circumstances are relevant. The guy fully admits that he had sex with someone that did not actually want to have sex with him. By accusing her of anything, you are defending his actions through focusing on the wrong thing. Someone does a terrible thing and you blame the victim.
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SaithSayer
12/06/18 7:47:09 AM
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I think the guy should be in trouble for fucking someone with an IQ under 80.
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Kineth
12/06/18 7:49:11 AM
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SaithSayer posted...
I think the guy should be in trouble for fucking someone with an IQ under 80.


What an elitist statement.
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SaithSayer
12/06/18 7:50:34 AM
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I hardly see myself as "elite" because I know the touch and mannerisms of my woman versus another. That should just be standard for any adult that's been with anyone much.
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Kineth
12/06/18 7:52:23 AM
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It's weird that you think the word 'statement' means 'you' or 'person'.
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SaithSayer
12/06/18 7:54:55 AM
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Or is it that you think it's elitist to exclude those people from your list of sexual candidates?
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HydraSlayer82
12/06/18 7:55:53 AM
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Wait, he said he was her boyfriend and apparently a completely different voice didnt tip her off?
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Kineth
12/06/18 7:58:35 AM
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SaithSayer posted...
Or is it that you think it's elitist to exclude those people from your list of sexual candidates?


Given that you admitted in another topic that you just post for your own self-amusement, you've got to be really bored right now. And your sequence of posts suggest that it should be a crime to have sex with you, given your posts.
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SaithSayer
12/06/18 7:58:49 AM
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HydraSlayer82 posted...
Wait, he said he was her boyfriend and apparently a completely different voice didnt tip her off?

I'm assuming he just started in and she went with it.

Apparently this guy is the same height, weight, dick size and shape and fucks the same way and....everything.

Basically he's Shang Tsung.
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A_Good_Boy
12/06/18 8:01:38 AM
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ImmatureContent posted...
"Donald even told police he knew Abigail thought he was her boyfriend and that was why she allowed him to have sex."

That is all you need to read. It doesn't matter if you think the girl should have realized or not. No other circumstances are relevant. The guy fully admits that he had sex with someone that did not actually want to have sex with him. By accusing her of anything, you are defending his actions through focusing on the wrong thing. Someone does a terrible thing and you blame the victim.

No, you have the responsibility of being aware of who you're having sex with.
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HydraSlayer82
12/06/18 8:03:52 AM
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I mean if he snuck in, they are in a room with no windows and no light, and he doesnt say a word Ill agree with her. But if he actually talked to her before and stuff then WTF?
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ImmatureContent
12/06/18 8:15:02 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
ImmatureContent posted...
"Donald even told police he knew Abigail thought he was her boyfriend and that was why she allowed him to have sex."

That is all you need to read. It doesn't matter if you think the girl should have realized or not. No other circumstances are relevant. The guy fully admits that he had sex with someone that did not actually want to have sex with him. By accusing her of anything, you are defending his actions through focusing on the wrong thing. Someone does a terrible thing and you blame the victim.

No, you have the responsibility of being aware of who you're having sex with.

As I already pointed out, you are focusing on the wrong thing. Her actions do not change his actions.

Hypothetical:
Person A leaves their bicycle unattended.
Person B steals bicycle.

Persona B is guilty of theft even though Person A was irresponsible. It doesn't change the fact that a theft occurred.
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A_Good_Boy
12/06/18 8:17:27 AM
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ImmatureContent posted...
As I already pointed out, you are focusing on the wrong thing. Her actions do not change his actions.

This is a point that you're doing an absolutely incredible job of glossing over. He's a shitbag but that doesn't absolve her of the responsibility of having the bare minimum awareness of who she's having sex with.
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SaithSayer
12/06/18 8:19:30 AM
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She enjoyed the sex while it was happening. Rape is unwilling sex. This wasn't that.
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im not 13
12/06/18 8:21:13 AM
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If you go into a convience store pretend to be from say a supplier and trick the shop owner to give you some goods/money you will be arrested for theft no matter how dumb the onwer was

Same thing applies here. He's openly said "I raped her" and people are still arguing agaisnt it
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Kineth
12/06/18 8:21:47 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
ImmatureContent posted...
As I already pointed out, you are focusing on the wrong thing. Her actions do not change his actions.

This is a point that you're doing an absolutely incredible job of glossing over. He's a shitbag but that doesn't absolve her of the responsibility of having the bare minimum awareness of who she's having sex with.


Man... why you doing this.
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SaithSayer
12/06/18 8:22:02 AM
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I'm pretty sure rape victims don't have orgasms during.
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ImmatureContent
12/06/18 8:22:35 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
ImmatureContent posted...
As I already pointed out, you are focusing on the wrong thing. Her actions do not change his actions.

This is a point that you're doing an absolutely incredible job of glossing over. He's a shitbag but that doesn't absolve her of the responsibility of having the bare minimum awareness of who she's having sex with.

I am not glossing over anything. I am merely judging things according to their significance. Lacking awareness is not an offense on the same level as tricking someone into having sex that doesn't want to have sex with you. Anyone that focuses on her part in this is clearly biased against women. That is all there is to it.
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A_Good_Boy
12/06/18 8:22:59 AM
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im not 13 posted...
If you go into a convience store pretend to be from say a supplier and trick the shop owner to give you some goods/money you will be arrested for theft no matter how dumb the onwer was

Same thing applies here. He's openly said "I raped her" and people are still arguing agaisnt it

If that convenience store owner ignored absolutely every single one of his internal checks that should have clued him in on the fact that he was handing goods over to an imposter then I'd say it's hard to argue that he didn't want his shit stolen too.
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im not 13
12/06/18 8:25:13 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
If that convenience store owner ignored absolutely every single one of his internal checks that should have clued him in on the fact that he was handing goods over to an imposter then I'd say it's hard to argue that he didn't want his shit stolen too.


People do stupid **** all the time (the girl)

People also commit crimes all the time (the guy)

It's still a crime.
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SaithSayer
12/06/18 8:26:55 AM
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If it's a crime, why isn't he in trouble?
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im not 13
12/06/18 8:26:58 AM
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The only way the guy is innocent is if she thought at first it wasn't her bf but when she realised she didn't stop...that could be the case here but the statement from the guy really incriminates him
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A_Good_Boy
12/06/18 8:28:39 AM
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im not 13 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
If that convenience store owner ignored absolutely every single one of his internal checks that should have clued him in on the fact that he was handing goods over to an imposter then I'd say it's hard to argue that he didn't want his shit stolen too.


People do stupid **** all the time (the girl)

People also commit crimes all the time (the guy)

It's still a crime.

Correct. But if all it takes to prevent a crime is the simple act of looking over your shoulder just once, then maybe you should.

How do you not know who you're having sex with? This question keeps on being asked and ignored, but if you've ever had sex before then it should be literally impossible for you to have sex with someone on accident. So, how did it happen?
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Middle hope
12/06/18 8:28:40 AM
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creativerealms posted...
The_OD posted...
awesome999 posted...
Rape by deception, lock him up

Apparently only in Massachusetts and California.

the rest of the u.s. doesn't have any laws on rape by fraud, as detailed in the OP

That needs to be fixed.

I agree. Especially in cases where someone pops up with "oh by the way I'm actually a dude". Dropping that on someone after a beejer or more is worth jail time
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Darkman124
12/06/18 8:28:51 AM
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creativerealms posted...
Situational of course.


probably the driver of why the law is written with this loophole

it may be very difficult to pen a law that would appropriately punish this actual rape that doesn't also create incidence of legal 'rape' that is not, which would harm innocent men

still, perhaps we should put some legal scholars to the task. i have faith in their ability to write a law capable of differentiating the two
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Kineth
12/06/18 8:33:16 AM
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SaithSayer posted...
If it's a crime, why isn't he in trouble?


How do you exist if you don't think?
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im not 13
12/06/18 8:41:54 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
How do you not know who you're having sex with? This question keeps on being asked and ignored, but if you've ever had sex before then it should be literally impossible for you to have sex with someone on accident. So, how did it happen?


Yeah this is really sctetchy. In a dark room even If there where 10 women with similar bodies I could tell who my gf was with minimal contact

I would call bs but the statement is so incriminating as I said. He got into the bed to commit a crime and the victim is saying there was a crime...I don't know how he goes scott free from that
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A_Good_Boy
12/06/18 8:44:14 AM
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im not 13 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
How do you not know who you're having sex with? This question keeps on being asked and ignored, but if you've ever had sex before then it should be literally impossible for you to have sex with someone on accident. So, how did it happen?


Yeah this is really sctetchy. In a dark room even If there where 10 women with similar bodies I could tell who my gf was with minimal contact

I would call bs but the statement is so incriminating as I said. He got into the bed to commit a crime and the victim is saying there was a crime...I don't know how he goes scott free from that

It just seems like the friend did try to deceptively rape her, she went along with it anyways, and when her real boyfriend found out what happened she went along with the rape story. Cause other than that I don't know how else she can claim to have not known it wasn't him.
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SaithSayer
12/06/18 8:50:27 AM
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Kineth posted...
SaithSayer posted...
If it's a crime, why isn't he in trouble?


How do you exist if you don't think?

Wrong and a crime aren't the same thing.
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im not 13
12/06/18 8:54:05 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
It just seems like the friend did try to deceptively rape her, she went along with it anyways, and when her real boyfriend found out what happened she went along with the rape story. Cause other than that I don't know how else she can claim to have not known it wasn't him.


For that to be true the guy was willing to throw his whole life away (and potentially has even though he was declared innocent) for a cheating gf to save face

He's just as dumb as she is
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Kineth
12/06/18 8:54:43 AM
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SaithSayer posted...
Kineth posted...
SaithSayer posted...
If it's a crime, why isn't he in trouble?


How do you exist if you don't think?

Wrong and a crime aren't the same thing.


Wrong and your posts are the same thing though.
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catboy0_0
12/06/18 8:58:48 AM
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is this why people hate California? because you can't get away with awful shit like this?
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