Current Events > What do BattleField 5 and Fallout 76 have in common?

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I mean honestly I don't even recognize the name ZombiePelican. I barely know who Hoth is.
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Oh is thar Zombie? Hey Zombie, hows your sister doing? Tell her I said hi.
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Both 50% after a week?
Both too stubborn to admit they were out of touch and blamed the children instead?
Both damaged the image of their brand for almost nothing?
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I'm still here, you know.

And yes, I have played it a bit. There's nothing in there right now that was worth either the amount of hubris thrown around at the launch trailer nor the amount of controversy generated overall.

They "added" a War Story? You mean they kept back content in favor of seeming like they're actually releasing new things every month.

You know why so many games are moving to this game's as a service model? So they can lure people in with promises of more content in the future. At least with the season passes you were guaranteed at least four to five map packs since you paid for it. There is absolutely nothing you're entitled to in Battlefield 5 outside of what's on the disc, and if EA decides to abort the post-launch content over it, there's nothing that can be done.

You say the other Battlefield games had a shaky launch, but the only one that comes to mind is Battlefield 4, and that game had plenty of content on launch to the point where they could fix the nonsense and shape it up to be one of the best games in the series. Battlefield 5 is gonna have to put out all of its content with the bugs and glitches lingering in the background, and the terrible sales certainly aren't gonna be a great motivator to get anything done fast.

Oh, and Battlefield Hardline and 1 released without any major issues. I know, I was at all three launches.
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Launching Battlefield 5 without their Battle Royale mode in 2018 was an absolutely stupid move. Typical EA being slow to reacting to new trends.
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

And yes, I have played it a bit. There's nothing in there right now that was worth either the amount of hubris thrown around at the launch trailer nor the amount of controversy generated overall.

Again, how did they 'mishandle it' as you suggested?

AvantgardeAClue posted...

They "added" a War Story? You mean they kept back content in favor of seeming like they're actually releasing new things every month.

That's literally one thing out of the entire new update, but yes, they added more story content, because people complained that they didn't add any more War Stories in the last game.

AvantgardeAClue posted...

You know why so many games are moving to this game's as a service model? So they can lure people in with promises of more content in the future. At least with the season passes you were guaranteed at least four to five map packs since you paid for it. There is absolutely nothing you're entitled to in Battlefield 5 outside of what's on the disc, and if EA decides to abort the post-launch content over it, there's nothing that can be done.

So basically, it's a bad game because you don't trust them? That has absolutely no bearing on the quality of the game, at all.

AvantgardeAClue posted...

You say the other Battlefield games had a shaky launch, but the only one that comes to mind is Battlefield 4, and that game had plenty of content on launch to the point where they could fix the nonsense and shape it up to be one of the best games in the series. Battlefield 5 is gonna have to put out all of its content with the bugs and glitches lingering in the background, and the terrible sales certainly aren't gonna be a great motivator to get anything done fast.

Oh, and Battlefield Hardline and 1 released without any major issues. I know, I was at all three launches.

It has almost the same amount of maps and game modes, with more vehicles, more weapons, more customization, etc.

They both disappointed and pissed off their consumer base?
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

I'm still here, you know.

And yes, I have played it a bit. There's nothing in there right now that was worth either the amount of hubris thrown around at the launch trailer nor the amount of controversy generated overall.

They "added" a War Story? You mean they kept back content in favor of seeming like they're actually releasing new things every month.

You know why so many games are moving to this game's as a service model? So they can lure people in with promises of more content in the future. At least with the season passes you were guaranteed at least four to five map packs since you paid for it. There is absolutely nothing you're entitled to in Battlefield 5 outside of what's on the disc, and if EA decides to abort the post-launch content over it, there's nothing that can be done.

You say the other Battlefield games had a shaky launch, but the only one that comes to mind is Battlefield 4, and that game had plenty of content on launch to the point where they could fix the nonsense and shape it up to be one of the best games in the series. Battlefield 5 is gonna have to put out all of its content with the bugs and glitches lingering in the background, and the terrible sales certainly aren't gonna be a great motivator to get anything done fast.

Oh, and Battlefield Hardline and 1 released without any major issues. I know, I was at all three launches.

Hardline wasn't a main series Battlefield, and it was relatively simple for what it presented. I enjoyed it for a little bit but it didn't have the depth of the other games (I did enjoy the heist mode though, I thought that was cool).

Battlefield 1 certainly had launch problems (especially with server connectivity) and had basic features missing that had been in 4 which were introduced later (for instance, customizable emblems, ribbons, clan support, etc.). Not to mention the initial selection of weapons was terrible (each class had basically three or four weapons max, with the unlockables being variations of those weapons). It also shipped with 9 maps (Battlefield 5 launched with 5, so not a huge difference there).

Literally every previous Battlefield had problems at launch, oftentimes related to server connectivity and server finding functionality. Battlefield 2 particularly stands out - it was the first in the series to have a promotion system, but the point scaling was ridiculous. It had server connection issues for a good two months, and when the patch finally came out that fixed that, it introduced a server-side memory leak which meant you would join a server just fine, play two or three matches, then get disconnected because the server crashed.

You say the terrible sales aren't helping, but it's hard to factor the sales in here when EA has been advertising its Premium subscription service so heavily in conjunction with the BF5 release. And they literally just released a giant patch that addressed many concerns people had.

Darmik posted...

Launching Battlefield 5 without their Battle Royale mode in 2018 was an absolutely stupid move. Typical EA being slow to reacting to new trends.

I hate Battle Royale so I'm personally fine with that :\ Also it ties in to their rotating seasonal content approach. Maybe not the best idea to postpone it when touting it rather heavily during pre-release marketing, though.
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