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Duncanwii
12/04/18 9:59:03 AM
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I mean it makes sense so why not?
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Solar_Crimson
12/04/18 10:00:18 AM
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I agree.

At the very least, it makes more sense than Pressure.

Same with base form Kyurem (it getting Snow Warning, that is).
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Spidey5
12/04/18 10:01:12 AM
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Tmaster148
12/04/18 10:05:30 AM
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Spidey5 posted...
Isnt pressure like the generic catch-all legendary skill?


For the first 2 gens.

Then gen 4 gave the cover legendaries pressure again.

Then since gen 5 cover legendaries got unique abilities.
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Alpha218
12/04/18 10:09:03 AM
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Zapdos was originally planned to have Lightningrod and it was gonna be so good :(
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Duncanwii
12/04/18 10:09:54 AM
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Alpha218 posted...
Zapdos was originally planned to have Lightningrod and it was gonna be so good :(

What did it get instead?
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codey
12/04/18 10:11:54 AM
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What makes a legendary a "cover" legendary, btw? I've never really messed with competitive play.
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Duncanwii
12/04/18 10:12:42 AM
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codey posted...
What makes a legendary a "cover" legendary, btw? I've never really messed with competitive play.

Um...its on the box?
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Tmaster148
12/04/18 10:14:05 AM
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Duncanwii posted...
Alpha218 posted...
Zapdos was originally planned to have Lightningrod and it was gonna be so good :(

What did it get instead?


Static - Hidden Ability
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Solar_Crimson
12/04/18 10:14:22 AM
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Duncanwii posted...
Alpha218 posted...
Zapdos was originally planned to have Lightningrod and it was gonna be so good :(

What did it get instead?

All three of the birds got Pressure.
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Tsukasa1891
12/04/18 10:14:27 AM
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codey posted...
What makes a legendary a "cover" legendary, btw? I've never really messed with competitive play.

They're on the cover of the box.
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Mister_Spyker
12/04/18 10:20:47 AM
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Articuno
Zapdos
Moltres
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codey
12/04/18 10:23:15 AM
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Tsukasa1891 posted...
codey posted...
What makes a legendary a "cover" legendary, btw? I've never really messed with competitive play.

They're on the cover of the box.


Well that...makes sense.
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TomNook20
12/04/18 10:23:32 AM
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AlisLandale
12/04/18 10:25:07 AM
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TomNook20 posted...
Mister_Spyker posted...
Articuno
Zapdos
Moltres

Rayquatro


Cincinco
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Alpha218
12/04/18 10:26:03 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Duncanwii posted...
Alpha218 posted...
Zapdos was originally planned to have Lightningrod and it was gonna be so good :(

What did it get instead?

All three of the birds got Pressure.

Pressure is the normal ability.

Hidden abilities are -

Articuno - Snow Veil (lol)
Zapdos - Static
Moltres - Flame Body

Meanwhile the Johto trio got:
Entei - Flash Fire
Raikou - Volt Absorb
Suicune - Water Absorb
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gunplagirl
12/04/18 10:26:33 AM
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I'd settle for all of them getting Serene Grace.
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Tmaster148
12/04/18 10:30:30 AM
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Alpha218 posted...
Solar_Crimson posted...
Duncanwii posted...
Alpha218 posted...
Zapdos was originally planned to have Lightningrod and it was gonna be so good :(

What did it get instead?

All three of the birds got Pressure.

Pressure is the normal ability.

Hidden abilities are -

Articuno - Snow Veil (lol)
Zapdos - Static
Moltres - Flame Body

Meanwhile the Johto trio got:
Entei - Flash Fire
Raikou - Volt Absorb
Suicune - Water Absorb


I mean all three bird trio hidden abilities are worse than pressure.

Moltres might use flame body because of burn chance and not really great defensively since it's objectively worse than ho-oh.
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Alpha218
12/04/18 10:31:31 AM
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Pressure is only good if you want to PP stall. Do you really think Articuno and Moltres will last long enough to do that, especially when Stealth Rocks exist?
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M-Watcher
12/04/18 10:33:38 AM
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Alpha218 posted...
Meanwhile the Johto trio got:
Entei - Flash Fire
Raikou - Volt Absorb
Suicune - Water Absorb

Not anymore. It's Inner Focus for all three now.
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Tmaster148
12/04/18 10:34:51 AM
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Alpha218 posted...
Pressure is only good if you want to PP stall. Do you really think Articuno and Moltres will last long enough to do that, especially when Stealth Rocks exist?


I mean articuno's hidden ability requires hail.

As I said moltres might run flame body because it's slightly more useful for it. But none of their hidden abilities are particularly amazing that they are required over pressure.
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Alpha218
12/04/18 10:35:06 AM
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Inner focus is still a good ability though
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Tmaster148
12/04/18 10:36:17 AM
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Suicune won't give up pressure at least due to it being a stall pokemon.
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Alpha218
12/04/18 10:38:05 AM
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Yeah I can agree on that one

Zapdos and Suicune are the best pressure users. Though I still wish Zapdos got Lightningrod because it would see so much more play
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ElatedVenusaur
12/04/18 11:26:15 AM
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Alpha218 posted...
Yeah I can agree on that one

Zapdos and Suicune are the best pressure users. Though I still wish Zapdos got Lightningrod because it would see so much more play

Yeah, Zapdos taking neutral damage from Electric feels awful weird.
But, then, the pokemon based on an axolotl doesn't have Regenerator, so that's Game Freak for you.
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Tsukasa1891
12/04/18 12:52:09 PM
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ElatedVenusaur posted...
Alpha218 posted...
Yeah I can agree on that one

Zapdos and Suicune are the best pressure users. Though I still wish Zapdos got Lightningrod because it would see so much more play

Yeah, Zapdos taking neutral damage from Electric feels awful weird.
But, then, the pokemon based on an axolotl doesn't have Regenerator, so that's Game Freak for you.

Doesn't lightning rod negate electric damage now?
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Tmaster148
12/04/18 1:06:51 PM
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Tsukasa1891 posted...
ElatedVenusaur posted...
Alpha218 posted...
Yeah I can agree on that one

Zapdos and Suicune are the best pressure users. Though I still wish Zapdos got Lightningrod because it would see so much more play

Yeah, Zapdos taking neutral damage from Electric feels awful weird.
But, then, the pokemon based on an axolotl doesn't have Regenerator, so that's Game Freak for you.

Doesn't lightning rod negate electric damage now?


Yes. Lightningrod gives you immunity to electric. It also causes electric moves to automatically target you. And when hit by an electric move you gain +1 SpA
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Alpha218
12/04/18 1:08:42 PM
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Tsukasa1891 posted...
ElatedVenusaur posted...
Alpha218 posted...
Yeah I can agree on that one

Zapdos and Suicune are the best pressure users. Though I still wish Zapdos got Lightningrod because it would see so much more play

Yeah, Zapdos taking neutral damage from Electric feels awful weird.
But, then, the pokemon based on an axolotl doesn't have Regenerator, so that's Game Freak for you.

Doesn't lightning rod negate electric damage now?

It redirects all electric attacks to the Pokmon with the ability, makes them immune to electric attacks, and boosts special attack by 1 stage when theyre hit with an electric move

So in other words, it is one of the best doubles abilities
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DarkRoast
12/04/18 1:13:00 PM
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Static is actually not too bad on a bulky Pokemon like Zapdos
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Alpha218
12/04/18 1:13:44 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Static is actually not too bad on a bulky Pokemon like Zapdos

Not when the most prominent moves thatd kill it dont make contact
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Tmaster148
12/04/18 1:44:42 PM
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Alpha218 posted...
DarkRoast posted...
Static is actually not too bad on a bulky Pokemon like Zapdos

Not when the most prominent moves thatd kill it dont make contact


Zapdos could also just use twave or discharge for to paralyze the target.

Flame body is the best of the contact status moves because most contact moves are physical so being burned means you can tank follow up hits better.

But most pokemon don't opt to run contact abilities like static or flame body unless no better option exists because it's not reliable.
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Alpha218
12/04/18 1:47:09 PM
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I run Cursed Body Froslass tbh
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Tmaster148
12/04/18 1:50:39 PM
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Alpha218 posted...
I run Cursed Body Froslass tbh


It's other option is hail specfic. Plus it's usually a suicide lead so disabling a move is pretty useful even if you get knocked out.
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GiftedACIII
12/04/18 6:56:45 PM
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Zapdos will be awfully OP with drizzle. Damn Pelipper is OU with drizzle.
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Tmaster148
12/04/18 6:59:16 PM
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GiftedACIII posted...
Zapdos will be awfully OP with drizzle. Damn Pelipper is OU with drizzle.


I think it's more that the competition for Drizzle is very small and that Rain is one of the best weathers.
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Alpha218
12/04/18 9:47:06 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
Zapdos will be awfully OP with drizzle. Damn Pelipper is OU with drizzle.


I think it's more that the competition for Drizzle is very small and that Rain is one of the best weathers.

I mean, having auto-rain and Hurricane helps too
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Tmaster148
12/04/18 9:57:37 PM
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Alpha218 posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
Zapdos will be awfully OP with drizzle. Damn Pelipper is OU with drizzle.


I think it's more that the competition for Drizzle is very small and that Rain is one of the best weathers.

I mean, having auto-rain and Hurricane helps too


I forgot about Hurricane. But I don't think it's necessarily for Pelipper to have Hurricane. You want U-Turn
because slow u-turners mean you can get a free switch and Roost for survival. Scald because Pelipper has good physical bulk. Then you could run defog or hurricane as the last slot.
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